Re: new emollient base HRT cream - Madeleen?

[Guest guest]

Madeleen? Are you there? What about you? Have you experienced any

side effects?

> >> We have been working with a pharmacist to come up with an

> > alternative cream that has fewer toxic ingredients. The

pharmacist

> > is a very nice man, interested in what we are doing, and very

open

> > to researching and meeting our needs.

> >> He has come up with an emollient base cream, which is much

cleaner

> > than the PCCA cream. Madeleen and I have tried it and like it -

very

> > smooth and easily absorbable.

> >> The ingredients are:

> >> water, cetearyl alcohol, safflower oil, almond oil, vitamin E

> > acetate, grape seed oil, steareth-21, EDTA, sodium carbomer,

> > potassium sorbate, phenoxyethanol.

> >> The noxious ingredients in the PCCA cream that are absent from

> > this one are dimethicone, triethanolamine, PEG-100 stearate and

> > benzethonium chloride.

> >> The pharmacy is Katterman's Pharmacy in Seattle, WA. Thoe phone

> > number is . Fax is . The pharmacist's

name

> > is Groen.

> >> He is ready to serve your hormone needs!

> >>

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > click here for our webpage http://rhythmicliving.com/

> >

> > **The group conversation is informational in nature and is not

intended as

> > medical advice.**

> >

[Guest guest]

, I only use Groen's E cream when I am out on the road or away from home. I find it very pleasant, goes in nicely and it has no distinct smell. However I have not taken it in large quantities, but if I could not have olive oil, I would definitely try it.

Madeleen wrote:

Madeleen? Are you there? What about you? Have you experienced any side effects? > >> We have been working with a pharmacist to come up with an> > alternative cream that has fewer toxic ingredients. The pharmacist> > is a very nice man, interested in what we are doing, and very open> > to researching and meeting our needs.> >> He has come up with an emollient base cream, which is much cleaner> > than the PCCA cream. Madeleen and I have tried it and like it - very> > smooth and easily absorbable.> >> The ingredients are:> >> water, cetearyl alcohol, safflower oil, almond oil, vitamin E> > acetate, grape seed oil, steareth-21, EDTA, sodium carbomer,> > potassium sorbate, phenoxyethanol.> >> The noxious ingredients in the PCCA cream that are absent from> > this one are dimethicone, triethanolamine, PEG-100 stearate and> > benzethonium

chloride.> >> The pharmacy is Katterman's Pharmacy in Seattle, WA. Thoe phone> > number is . Fax is . The pharmacist's name> > is Groen.> >> He is ready to serve your hormone needs!> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> > click here for our webpage http://rhythmicliving.com/> >> > **The group conversation is informational in nature and is not intended as > > medical advice.**> >

[Guest guest]

Oh thanks Mad. Maybe I'll give it a try. Del Norte hasn't sent me

my replacement OO yet (the first shipment was destroyed by the mail -

they sent it to me in an envelope!) By the way, does this new E

cream come in pre-filled syringes? I hate having to deal with tubes!

> > >> We have been working with a pharmacist to come up with an

> > > alternative cream that has fewer toxic ingredients. The

> pharmacist

> > > is a very nice man, interested in what we are doing, and very

> open

> > > to researching and meeting our needs.

> > >> He has come up with an emollient base cream, which is much

> cleaner

> > > than the PCCA cream. Madeleen and I have tried it and like it -

> very

> > > smooth and easily absorbable.

> > >> The ingredients are:

> > >> water, cetearyl alcohol, safflower oil, almond oil, vitamin E

> > > acetate, grape seed oil, steareth-21, EDTA, sodium carbomer,

> > > potassium sorbate, phenoxyethanol.

> > >> The noxious ingredients in the PCCA cream that are absent from

> > > this one are dimethicone, triethanolamine, PEG-100 stearate and

> > > benzethonium chloride.

> > >> The pharmacy is Katterman's Pharmacy in Seattle, WA. Thoe

phone

> > > number is . Fax is . The pharmacist's

> name

> > > is Groen.

> > >> He is ready to serve your hormone needs!

> > >>

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > click here for our webpage http://rhythmicliving.com/

> > >

> > > **The group conversation is informational in nature and is not

> intended as

> > > medical advice.**

> > >

[Guest guest]

Yes, it comes in pre-filled syringes.

Re: new emollient base HRT cream - Madeleen?

> Oh thanks Mad. Maybe I'll give it a try. Del Norte hasn't sent me

> my replacement OO yet (the first shipment was destroyed by the mail -

> they sent it to me in an envelope!) By the way, does this new E

> cream come in pre-filled syringes? I hate having to deal with tubes!

>

>

>

>

>> > >> We have been working with a pharmacist to come up with an

>> > > alternative cream that has fewer toxic ingredients. The

>> pharmacist

>> > > is a very nice man, interested in what we are doing, and very

>> open

>> > > to researching and meeting our needs.

>> > >> He has come up with an emollient base cream, which is much

>> cleaner

>> > > than the PCCA cream. Madeleen and I have tried it and like it -

>

>> very

>> > > smooth and easily absorbable.

>> > >> The ingredients are:

>> > >> water, cetearyl alcohol, safflower oil, almond oil, vitamin E

>> > > acetate, grape seed oil, steareth-21, EDTA, sodium carbomer,

>> > > potassium sorbate, phenoxyethanol.

>> > >> The noxious ingredients in the PCCA cream that are absent from

>> > > this one are dimethicone, triethanolamine, PEG-100 stearate and

>> > > benzethonium chloride.

>> > >> The pharmacy is Katterman's Pharmacy in Seattle, WA. Thoe

> phone

>> > > number is . Fax is . The pharmacist's

>> name

>> > > is Groen.

>> > >> He is ready to serve your hormone needs!

>> > >>

>> > >

>> > >

>> > >

>> > >

>> > >

>> > >

>> > > click here for our webpage http://rhythmicliving.com/

>> > >

>> > > **The group conversation is informational in nature and is not

>> intended as

>> > > medical advice.**

>> > >

[Guest guest]

As far as I recall, the phenoxyethanol was one of the toxic ones in the MS or PCCA-base-cream, and the steareth-21 is "Peg stearete" in the MS cream?

WIP have an all natural base cream, although it may be more expensive. These are the ingredients of their new all natural base cream

that is completely non-toxic

Aloe Vera Extract

Shea Butter

Essential Phospholipids

Polysaccarides

Vitamin E

Sodium Bezoate (preservative made from strawberries)

Charlotte

Re: new emollient base HRT cream - Madeleen?> Oh thanks Mad. Maybe I'll give it a try. Del Norte hasn't sent me> my replacement OO yet (the first shipment was destroyed by the mail -> they sent it to me in an envelope!) By the way, does this new E> cream come in pre-filled syringes? I hate having to deal with tubes!>> >> >> > >> We have been working with a pharmacist to come up with an>> > > alternative cream that has fewer toxic ingredients. The>> pharmacist>> > > is a very nice man, interested in what we are doing, and very>> open>> > > to researching and meeting our needs.>> > >> He has come up with an emollient base cream, which is much>> cleaner>> > > than the PCCA cream. Madeleen and I have tried it and like it ->>> very>> > > smooth and easily absorbable.>> > >> The ingredients are:>> > >> water, cetearyl alcohol, safflower oil, almond oil, vitamin E>> > > acetate, grape seed oil, steareth-21, EDTA, sodium carbomer,>> > > potassium sorbate, phenoxyethanol.>> > >> The noxious ingredients in the PCCA cream that are absent from>> > > this one are dimethicone, triethanolamine, PEG-100 stearate and>> > > benzethonium chloride.>> > >> The pharmacy is Katterman's Pharmacy in Seattle, WA. Thoe> phone>> > > number is . Fax is . The pharmacist's>> name>> > > is Groen.>> > >> He is ready to serve your hormone needs!>> > >> >> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > > click here for our webpage http://rhythmicliving.com/>> > >>> > > **The group conversation is informational in nature and is not>> intended as>> > > medical advice.**>> > >

[Guest guest]

oh thank God! I do NOT fill syringes very well! Thanks.

> >> > >> We have been working with a pharmacist to come up with an

> >> > > alternative cream that has fewer toxic ingredients. The

> >> pharmacist

> >> > > is a very nice man, interested in what we are doing, and

very

> >> open

> >> > > to researching and meeting our needs.

> >> > >> He has come up with an emollient base cream, which is much

> >> cleaner

> >> > > than the PCCA cream. Madeleen and I have tried it and like

it -

> >

> >> very

> >> > > smooth and easily absorbable.

> >> > >> The ingredients are:

> >> > >> water, cetearyl alcohol, safflower oil, almond oil,

vitamin E

> >> > > acetate, grape seed oil, steareth-21, EDTA, sodium carbomer,

> >> > > potassium sorbate, phenoxyethanol.

> >> > >> The noxious ingredients in the PCCA cream that are absent

from

> >> > > this one are dimethicone, triethanolamine, PEG-100 stearate

and

> >> > > benzethonium chloride.

> >> > >> The pharmacy is Katterman's Pharmacy in Seattle, WA. Thoe

> > phone

> >> > > number is . Fax is . The

pharmacist's

> >> name

> >> > > is Groen.

> >> > >> He is ready to serve your hormone needs!

> >> > >>

> >> > >

> >> > >

> >> > >

> >> > >

> >> > >

> >> > >

> >> > > click here for our webpage http://rhythmicliving.com/

> >> > >

> >> > > **The group conversation is informational in nature and is

not

> >> intended as

> >> > > medical advice.**

> >> > >