Guest guest Posted April 25, 2003 Report Share Posted April 25, 2003 In a message dated 4/25/03 8:35:09 AM Pacific Daylight Time, cathy2@... writes: > Angie, I didn't save it but there is information on EPA website about > different insect repellants. http://www.epa.gov/ > > Sutton > Thanks , That is a great site! I put insect repellent in the search function and this is the link I got with about 14 different topics. <A HREF= " http://oaspub.epa.gov/webi/meta_first_new2.try_these_first " > http://oaspub.epa.gov/webi/meta_first_new2.try_these_first</A> Did you read the New England Journal of Medicine article? That's what I can't understand...the soybean derived active ingredient?? It may be that I just don't know enough to put two and two together and look for the proper chemical?? Curious though. Thanks for the link, I'll pass it on. Angie The Herbarie - Botanicals and Body Care Natural Source & Specialty Bulk Ingredients...Exceptional Quality at Wholesale Prices...visit us at http://www.theherbarie.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 25, 2003 Report Share Posted April 25, 2003 Angie, I didn't save it but there is information on EPA website about different insect repellants. http://www.epa.gov/ Sutton > Hi Folks, > I have been trying to help someone who wants to make and market an insect > repellent that is highly effective without DEET. I'm no expert on the > subject, but from what I have gathered from reading and experience, I gave > him some recommendations on various eos. I wanted to get input from the > chemists or whoever is familiar with any research of this type. I am going > to post a link to a retail site that had the New England Journal of > Medicine....about as respectable as they come....conduct research on their > product. The kicker for me is that it is a soybean or soybean derived > ingredient that is the active ingredient??? Can anyone shed any light on > these findings? > > <A HREF= " http://www.homs.com/ " >http://www.homs.com/</A> > > Thanks, > Angie > > The Herbarie - Botanicals and Body Care > Natural Source & Specialty Bulk Ingredients...Exceptional Quality > at Wholesale Prices...visit us at http://www.theherbarie.com > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 25, 2003 Report Share Posted April 25, 2003 >I wanted to get input from the chemists or whoever is familiar with any research of this type. You should read 40 CFR 152.25 Exempt pesticides not requiring FIFRA regulation Quoting from 40 CFR 152.25 (f) Minimum risk pesticides-(1) Exempted products. Products containing the following active ingredients are exempt from the requirements of FIFRA, alone or in combination with other substances listed in this paragraph, provided that all of the criteria of this section are met. Castor oil (U.S.P. or equivalent) Cedar oil Cinnamon and cinnamon oil Citric acid Citronella and citronella oil Cloves and clove oil Corn gluten meal Corn oil Cottonseed oil Dried blood Eugenol Garlic and garlic oil Geraniol Geranium oil Lauryl sulfate Lemongrass oil Linseed oil Malic acid Mint and mint oil Peppermint and peppermint oil 2-Phenethyl propionate (2-phenylethyl propionate) Potassium sorbate Putrescent whole egg solids Rosemary and rosemary oil Sesame (includes ground sesame plant) and sesame oil Sodium chloride (common salt) Sodium lauryl sulfate Soybean oil Thyme and thyme oil White pepper Zinc metal strips (consisting solely of zinc metal and impurities) Also check out these US Patents: 5,227,406 5,346,922 5,621,013 5,648,398 Maurice -------------------------------------------------------- Maurice O. Hevey Convergent Cosmetics, Inc. http://www.ConvergentCosmetics.com ------------------------------------------------------- Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 25, 2003 Report Share Posted April 25, 2003 > I wanted to get input from the chemists or whoever is familiar with any research of this type. ------------------- Title: Repellency of volatile oils from plants against three mosquito vectors. Authors: Tawatsin A, Wratten SD, RR, Thavara U, Techadamrongsin Y Title Abbreviation: J Vector Ecol. Publication Date: 2001 Jun; Volume Issue: 26 Issue Part Supplement: (1) Pagination: :76-82. Affiliation: National Institute of Health, Department of Medical Sciences, Ministry of Public Health, 88/7 Tiwanon Rd., Nonthaburi 11000, Thailand. Abstract: Volatile oils extracted by steam distillation from four plant species (turmeric (Curcuma longa), kaffir lime (Citrus hystrix), citronella grass (Cymbopogon winterianus) and hairy basil (Ocimum americanum)), were evaluated in mosquito cages and in a large room for their repellency effects against three mosquito vectors, Aedes aegypti, Anopheles dirus and Culex quinquefasciatus. The oils from turmeric, citronella grass and hairy basil, especially with the addition of 5% vanillin, repelled the three species under cage conditions for up to eight hours. The oil from kaffir lime alone, as well as with 5% vanillin added, was effective for up to three hours. With regard to the standard repellent, deet alone provided protection for at least eight hours against Ae. aegypti and Cx. quinquefasciatus, but for six hours against An. dirus. However, deet with the addition of 5% vanillin gave protection against the three mosquito species for at least eight hours. The results of large room evaluations confirmed the responses for each repellent treatment obtained under cage conditions. This study demonstrates the potential of volatile oils extracted from turmeric, citronella grass and hairy basil as topical repellents against both day- and night-biting mosquitoes. The three volatile oils can be formulated with vanillin as mosquito repellents in various forms to replace deet (N,N-diethyl-3-methylbenzamide), the most common chemical repellent currently available. ------------------- Title: Field efficacy of commercial antimosquito products in Illinois. Authors: Jensen T, Lampman R, Slamecka MC, Novak RJ Title Abbreviation: J Am Mosq Control Assoc. Publication Date: 2000 Jun; Volume Issue: 16 Issue Part Supplement: (2) Pagination: :148-52. Affiliation: Medical Entomology Program, Illinois Natural History Survey, Champaign 61820, USA. Abstract: We evaluated the efficacy of commercial antimosquito products in field trials in Illinois in June 1998 by comparing mosquito landing rates. Products tested were a sonic mosquito repeller, an insect killing grid using ultraviolet light and 1-octen-3-ol as lures, mosquito smoke coils containing a pyrethroid, citronella candles, the mosquito plant Pelargonium citrosum, and a N,N-diethyl-3-methylbenzamide (deet)-impregnated wrist band. The sonic mosquito repeller, insect killing grid, and mosquito smoke coils were evaluated in 16 trials over 5 days; the citronella candles and mosquito plants in II trials over 4 days; and the wrist bands in 4 trials on 1 day. In all 3 studies, we compared landing rates with the antimosquito products to both positive (topical application of a deet formulation) and negative (no treatment) controls. The deet topical repellent had a consistently lower landing rate than all the nontopically applied products tested. However, the mosquito coils and the deet-impregnated wrist bands did significantly reduce mosquito landing rates relative to untreated controls. ------------------- Title: Insect repellents. What really works? Authors: Mafong EA, Kaplan LA Title Abbreviation: Postgrad Med. Publication Date: 1997 Aug; Volume Issue: 102 Issue Part Supplement: (2) Pagination: :63, 68-9, 74. Affiliation: Department of Internal Medicine, University of California, School of Medicine, San Diego, USA. Abstract: DEET remains one of the most effective repellents against a wide variety of insects. Although adverse reactions have been reported in the medical literature and magnified in the press, the compound is remarkably safe and has been used by hundreds of millions of people over the past 40 years. Permethrin is a better deterrent of ticks and, like DEET, is remarkably safe. Concomitant use of these two agents provides superior protection. Citronella and a bath oil, Avon Skin-So-Soft, also provide limited protection against some types of flying insects. The promise of new agents or protective strategies is on the horizon. Recently it was shown that retroviral vectors could be used to integrate and express foreign genes in the malaria mosquito, Anopheles gambiae. Conceivably, a genetically engineered mosquito that is resistant to malaria and other transmissible diseases may one day be developed, obviating some of the need for repellents. Almost certainly, future research will yield additional agents to further protect against mosquitoes. ------------------- Title:Evaluation of the efficacy of 3% citronella candles and 5% citronella incense for protection against field populations of Aedes mosquitoes. Authors: LR, Surgeoner GA, Heal JD, Gallivan GJ Title Abbreviation: J Am Mosq Control Assoc. Publication Date: 1996 Jun; Volume Issue: 12 Issue Part Supplement: (2 Pt 1) Pagination: :293-4. Affiliation: Department of Environmental Biology, University of Guelph, Ontario, Canada. Abstract: We assessed the efficacy of 3% citronella candles and 5% citronella incense in protecting subjects from bites of Aedes spp. under field conditions. The study was conducted in a deciduous woodlot in Guelph, Ontario, Canada from July 26 to August 10, 1995. Eight subjects, dressed identically, were assigned to one of 8 positions on a grid within the study area. Two citronella candles, 2 citronella incense, 2 plain unscented candles, or no candles (i.e., nontreated controls) were assigned to 2 positions on the grid each evening. Subjects conducted 5-min biting counts at each position and performed 16 biting counts per evening. On average, subjects received 6.2 +/- 0.4, 8.2 +/- 0.5, 8.2 +/- 0.4, and 10.8 +/- 0.5 bites/ 5 min at positions with citronella candles, citronella incense, plain candles, and no candles, respectively. Although significantly fewer bites were received by subjects at positions with citronella candles and incense than at nontreated locations, the overall reduction in bites provided by the citronella candles and incense was only 42.3 and 24.2%, respectively. ------------------- Title: Essential oil analysis and field evaluation of the citrosa plant " Pelargonium citrosum " as a repellent against populations of Aedes mosquitoes. Authors: Matsuda BM, Surgeoner GA, Heal JD, Tucker AO, Maciarello MJ Title Abbreviation: J Am Mosq Control Assoc. Publication Date: 1996 Mar; Volume Issue: 12 Issue Part Supplement: (1) Pagination: :69-74. Affiliation: Department of Environmental Biology, University of Guelph, Ontario, Canada. Abstract: A plant recently introduced into North America as the citrosa, Pelargonium citrosum ('Van Leenii'), has been marketed as a biological repellent against mosquitoes. Citrosa is claimed to repel mosquitoes within a 10 ft.2 (0.93 m2) area due to a continuous fragrant release of citronella oil. The total essential oil yield was 0.2 +/- 0.1% from fresh plant material. Chemical analysis by the authors revealed that combined essential oils of fresh greenhouse- and field-grown citrosa have 35.4 +/- 6.2% geraniol, 10.4 +/- 1.6% citronellol, 8.9 +/- 2.0% isomenthone, and 6.8 +/- 3.8% linalool. Both the morphology and essential oil of citrosa fall within the Pelargonium x asperum hybrid complex and are similar to 'RosAc', the commercial rose geranium. No character of morphology or essential oil of a Cymbopogon species yielding commercial citronella oil could be detected in the citrosa. The effectiveness of the citrosa as a repellent against field populations of spring Aedes spp. mosquitoes was evaluated and compared with a 75% deet (N,N-diethyl-3-methylbenzamide) formulation. Deet provided > 90% reduction in mosquitoes biting subjects for up to 8 h post-treatment. There was no significant difference between citrosa-treated and nontreated subjects. ------------------- Title: Antibacterial and antifungal activity of ten essential oils in vitro. Authors: Pattnaik S, Subramanyam VR, Kole C Title Abbreviation: Microbios. Publication Date: 1996; Volume Issue: 86 Issue Part Supplement: (349) Pagination: :237-46. Affiliation: Regional Medical Research Centre, (Indian Council of Medical Research), Bhubaneswar, India. Abstract: The essential oils of aegle, ageratum, citronella, eucalyptus, geranium, lemongrass, orange, palmarosa, patchouli and peppermint, were tested for antibacterial activity against 22 bacteria, including Gram-positive cocci and rods and Gram-negative rods, and twelve fungi (3 yeast-like and 9 filamentous) by the disc diffusion method. Lemongrass, eucalyptus, peppermint and orange oils were effective against all the 22 bacterial strains. Aegle and palmarosa oils inhibited 21 bacteria; patchouli and ageratum oils inhibited 20 bacteria and citronella and geranium oils were inhibitory to 15 and 12 bacterial strains, respectively. All twelve fungi were inhibited by seven oils (aegle, citronella, geranium, lemongrass, orange, palmarosa and patchouli). Eucalyptus and peppermint oils were effective against eleven fungi. Ageratum oil was inhibitory to only four fungi tested. The MIC of eucalyptus, lemongrass, palmarosa and peppermint oils ranged from 0.16 to > 20 microliters ml-1 for eighteen bacteria and from 0.25 to 10 microliters ml-1 for twelve fungi. ------------------- Title: Relative efficacy of various oils in repelling mosquitoes. Authors: Ansari MA, Razdan RK Title Abbreviation: Indian J Malariol. Publication Date: 1995 Sep; Volume Issue: 32 Issue Part Supplement: (3) Pagination: :104-11. Affiliation: Malaria Research Centre, Delhi, India. Abstract: Field studies were carried out to determine the relative efficacy of repellant action of vegetable, essential and chemical base oils against vector mosquitoes. Results revealed that essential oils viz. Cymbopogan martinii martinii var. Sofia (palmarosa), Cymbopogan citratus (lemon grass) and Cymbopogan nardus (citronella) oils are as effective as chemical base oil namely mylol. These oils provide almost complete protection against Anopheles culicifacies and other anopheline species. Per cent protection against Culex quinquefasciatus ranged between 95-96%. Camphor (C. camphora) oil also showed repellent action and provided 97.6% protection against An. culicifacies and 80.7% against Cx. quinquefasciatus. Vegetable oils namely mustard (B. compestris) and coconut (C. nucisera) showed repellent action, however the efficacy of these oils was not much pronounced against Cx. quinquefasciatus. Results of statistical analysis revealed significant difference between vegetable and essential oils (p < 0.01) against tested species of mosquitoes. Essential oils were found marginally superior in repellancy than camphor and mylol (p < 0.01) against An. culicifacies and Cx. quinquefasciatus. ------------------- ----------------- Title: Repellency of essential oils to mosquitoes (Diptera: Culicidae). Authors: Barnard DR Title Abbreviation: J Med Entomol. Publication Date: 1999 Sep; Volume Issue: 36 Issue Part Supplement: (5) Pagination: :625-9. Affiliation: Center for Medical, Agricultural, and Veterinary Entomology, USDA-ARS, Gainesville, FL 32604, USA. Abstract: The repellency of different concentrations (5, 10, 25, 50, 75, and 100%) and combinations of 5 essential oils (Bourbon geranium, cedarwood, clove, peppermint, and thyme) to Aedes aegypti (L.) and Anopheles albimanus Wiedemann when applied to human skin was determined in laboratory tests. Cedarwood oil failed to repel mosquitoes and only high concentrations of peppermint oil repelled Ae. aegypti. None of the oils tested prevented mosquito bite when used at the 5 or 10% concentration. Thyme and clove oils were the most effective mosquito repellents and provided 1 1/2 to 3 1/2 h of protection, depending on oil concentration. Clove oil (50%) combined with geranium oil (50%) or with thyme oil (50%) prevented biting by An. albimanus for 1 1/4 to 2 1/2 h. The potential for using essential oils as topical mosquito repellents may be limited by user acceptability; clove, thyme, and peppermint oils can be irritating to the skin, whereas both human subjects in this study judged the odor of clove and thyme oils unacceptable at concentrations > or = 25%. ----------------- Title: The relative efficacy of repellents against mosquito vectors of disease. Authors: Curtis CF, Lines JD, Ijumba J, Callaghan A, Hill N, Karimzad MA Title Abbreviation: Med Vet Entomol. Publication Date: 1987 Apr; Volume Issue: 1 Issue Part Supplement: (2) Pagination: :109-19. Affiliation: London School of Hygiene and Tropical Medicine. Abstract: Laboratory tests of insect repellents by various different methods showed that An.stephensi Liston was consistently more susceptible than An.gambiae Giles, An.albimanus Wiedemann or An.pulcherrimus Theobald. The six repellents tested were di-ethyl toluamide (deet), di-methyl phthalate (DMP), ethyl-hexanediol, permethrin, citronella and cedarwood oil. Testing systems in which the mosquitoes were presented with a choice gave consistently lower ED50 values than when there was no choice, i.e. the standards of tolerance are not absolute but depend on the options available. In field tests in an experimental hut a curtain with a high dose of di-ethyl toluamide (deet) reduced biting in the hut but had to be re-impregnated frequently. Deet-impregnated anklets gave about 84% protection against Culex quinquefasciatus Say for 80 days after one impregnation, in a trial in which the anklets were brought out of sealed storage and tested for 2 h nightly. Similar protection was found against An.funestus Giles but the protection against An.gambiae s.l., An. coustani Laveran and Mansonia spp. was not as good. There were highly significant differences between the four collectors' mosquito attractiveness but this varied highly significantly between the mosquito species. ----------------- Title: Exposure to an environment containing the aromatic red cedar, Juniperus virginiana: procarcinogenic, enzyme-inducing and insecticidal effects. Authors: Sabine JR Title Abbreviation: Toxicology. Publication Date: 1975 Nov; Volume Issue: 5 Issue Part Supplement: (2) Pagination: :221-35. Abstract: (1) Shavings from the Eastern Red Cedar (Juniperus virginiana) were examined for three diverse biological properties, i.e. enzyme induction, procarcinogenicity and insecticidal activity. (2) The ability of a cedar environment to stimulate liver drug-metabolizing enzymes in mice was confirmed by lowered values for barbiturate sleeping time. (3) In susceptible strains of mice (C3H-Avy, C3H-AvyfB and CBA/J) the use of cedar shavings as bedding increased significantly the incidence of spontaneous tumors of the liver and mammary gland, and also reduced the average time at which tumors appeared. (4) Cedar and some of its derivatives (Oil of Cedarwood, cedrene, cedrol) disrupted the reproductive and developmental cycle of a number of insects, including the Peanut Trash Bug (Elasmolomus sordidus), the Indian Meal Moth (Plodia interpunctella) and the Forage Mite (Tyrophagus putrescentiae). ----------------- -------------------------------------------------------- Maurice O. Hevey Convergent Cosmetics, Inc. http://www.ConvergentCosmetics.com ------------------------------------------------------- Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 25, 2003 Report Share Posted April 25, 2003 Angie, Not to burst your bubble but I hope that your friend has about $100K to spend on this. Insect repellents are regulated by the EPA under the FIFRA regulations. They are like a drug in the eyes of the EPA and active ingredients must be registered. The EPA requires a full battery of toxicology studies on both animals and humans to prove the safety of the compound and the finished formula. You must register the finished product and receive a number that is placed on the label. It goes on from there. I did this for about 5 years for one of my clients. For more information go to the EPA website and look under FIFRA. Young KY Labs Innovators of Fine Personal Care Products www.kylabs.com insect repellent research? Hi Folks, I have been trying to help someone who wants to make and market an insect repellent that is highly effective without DEET. I'm no expert on the subject, but from what I have gathered from reading and experience, I gave him some recommendations on various eos. I wanted to get input from the chemists or whoever is familiar with any research of this type. I am going to post a link to a retail site that had the New England Journal of Medicine....about as respectable as they come....conduct research on their product. The kicker for me is that it is a soybean or soybean derived ingredient that is the active ingredient??? Can anyone shed any light on these findings? <A HREF= " http://www.homs.com/ " >http://www.homs.com/</A> Thanks, Angie The Herbarie - Botanicals and Body Care Natural Source & Specialty Bulk Ingredients...Exceptional Quality at Wholesale Prices...visit us at http://www.theherbarie.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 25, 2003 Report Share Posted April 25, 2003 Maurice, It is not as simple as you have made it appear. There is also a list 4A and as long as the only ingredients in the repellent are from the list you have given and the list 4A then it is exempt. My client's patented active blend uses Oil of Citronella with geraniol, terpineol and rhodinol. The EPA only recognized the Oil of Citronella as the active but the products all required the testing I have mentioned in my earlier post. It is very costly. Young KY Labs Innovators of Fine Personal Care Products www.kylabs.com Re: insect repellent research? >I wanted to get input from the chemists or whoever is familiar with any research of this type. You should read 40 CFR 152.25 Exempt pesticides not requiring FIFRA regulation Quoting from 40 CFR 152.25 (f) Minimum risk pesticides-(1) Exempted products. Products containing the following active ingredients are exempt from the requirements of FIFRA, alone or in combination with other substances listed in this paragraph, provided that all of the criteria of this section are met. Castor oil (U.S.P. or equivalent) Cedar oil Cinnamon and cinnamon oil Citric acid Citronella and citronella oil Cloves and clove oil Corn gluten meal Corn oil Cottonseed oil Dried blood Eugenol Garlic and garlic oil Geraniol Geranium oil Lauryl sulfate Lemongrass oil Linseed oil Malic acid Mint and mint oil Peppermint and peppermint oil 2-Phenethyl propionate (2-phenylethyl propionate) Potassium sorbate Putrescent whole egg solids Rosemary and rosemary oil Sesame (includes ground sesame plant) and sesame oil Sodium chloride (common salt) Sodium lauryl sulfate Soybean oil Thyme and thyme oil White pepper Zinc metal strips (consisting solely of zinc metal and impurities) Also check out these US Patents: 5,227,406 5,346,922 5,621,013 5,648,398 Maurice -------------------------------------------------------- Maurice O. Hevey Convergent Cosmetics, Inc. http://www.ConvergentCosmetics.com ------------------------------------------------------- Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 26, 2003 Report Share Posted April 26, 2003 I have read the FIFRA EPA guidelines as they pertain to insect repellent products and am still a bit confused. If one were to formulate a product using an exempt active ingredient (list a) from the EPA list, but were to include an ingredient in the formulation, say, coconut oil, which is not included in the list of acceptable inactive ingredients (list , they would not be in compliance with EPA regulations? Dawn Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 26, 2003 Report Share Posted April 26, 2003 Dawn, This is correct. This is what I was saying in an earlier post. Be prepared to break your piggy bank if you want to get into this business. Young KY Labs Innovators of Fine Personal Care Products www.kylabs.com Re: insect repellent research? I have read the FIFRA EPA guidelines as they pertain to insect repellent products and am still a bit confused. If one were to formulate a product using an exempt active ingredient (list a) from the EPA list, but were to include an ingredient in the formulation, say, coconut oil, which is not included in the list of acceptable inactive ingredients (list , they would not be in compliance with EPA regulations? Dawn Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 27, 2003 Report Share Posted April 27, 2003 So, does this mean if I made a water/oil repellent solution of Geranium oil (on the list as exempt) and Lecithin as an emulsifier in water it would require registration since neither water or Lecithin are on the list? Lecithin is used in food as is Coconut oil. This makes no sense to me. I checked with the legal department a Bite Blocker. They used to be EPA registered but dropped the registration (and therefore the associated fees) when the exemption list was created and they no longer needed it. They even suggested I check the EPA if I was not trusting of them. Their product contains: Soybean oil (2% active ingredient), Purified water, Coconut oil, Glycerin, Lecithin, Citric Acid, Geranium oil, Sodium Bicarbonate, & Vanillin. I originally joined this group so I could better understand how this product might work. I am confused more than ever about the EPA thing and still don't know what makes their product work. Any suggestions, comments, insights? - Chris Dawn, T his is correct. This is what I was saying in an earlier post. Be prepared to break your piggy bank if you want to get into this business. Young KY Labs From: Dawn Subject: Re: insect repellent research? I have read the FIFRA EPA guidelines as they pertain to insect repellent products and am still a bit confused. If one were to formulate a product using an exempt active ingredient (list a) from the EPA list, but were to include an ingredient in the formulation, say, coconut oil, which is not included in the list of acceptable inactive ingredients (list , they would not be in compliance with EPA regulations? Dawn Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 28, 2003 Report Share Posted April 28, 2003 In a message dated 4/27/03 10:43:05 AM Pacific Daylight Time, tigermtngear@... writes: > Their product > contains: Soybean oil (2% active ingredient), Purified water, Coconut oil, > Glycerin, Lecithin, Citric Acid, Geranium oil, Sodium Bicarbonate, & > Vanillin. Hi and All, I'll be honest, my first impression on reading these ingredients (assuming you are taking them from the label of the product) is that the company is irresponsible and is not labeling properly. I wonder if I am the only one who feels this way? Also, I am EXTREMELY curious about the 2% active soybean oil??? Does anyone on this list know of any sort of soybean oil that is an active ingredient?? The order of the ingredients doesn't make sense to me either. I know is working very hard to try to come up with an insect repellent that works. These are interesting questions. Opinions? Angie The Herbarie - Botanicals and Body Care Natural Source & Specialty Bulk Ingredients...Exceptional Quality at Wholesale Prices...visit us at http://www.theherbarie.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 28, 2003 Report Share Posted April 28, 2003 Hi! I understand that soybean oil is an insect repellant; I bought some and I am planning to use it myself in my own lotion in a few weeks. I'll let you know how well (or not) it works! Madeline in AZ -- Re: Re: insect repellent research? In a message dated 4/27/03 10:43:05 AM Pacific Daylight Time, tigermtngear@... writes: > Their product > contains: Soybean oil (2% active ingredient), Purified water, Coconut oil, > Glycerin, Lecithin, Citric Acid, Geranium oil, Sodium Bicarbonate, & > Vanillin. Hi and All, I'll be honest, my first impression on reading these ingredients (assuming you are taking them from the label of the product) is that the company is irresponsible and is not labeling properly. I wonder if I am the only one who feels this way? Also, I am EXTREMELY curious about the 2% active soybean oil??? Does anyone on this list know of any sort of soybean oil that is an active ingredient?? The order of the ingredients doesn't make sense to me either. I know is working very hard to try to come up with an insect repellent that works. These are interesting questions. Opinions? Angie The Herbarie - Botanicals and Body Care Natural Source & Specialty Bulk Ingredients...Exceptional Quality at Wholesale Prices...visit us at http://www.theherbarie.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 29, 2003 Report Share Posted April 29, 2003 I don't know about insects, but between the dried blood, garlic and putrescent egg solids, I think you've got the ingredients for a pretty darn good human repellent... Jules/Vancouver BC > -------------------------------------------------------- > Maurice O. Hevey > Convergent Cosmetics, Inc. > http://www.ConvergentCosmetics.com > ------------------------------------------------------- Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 2, 2003 Report Share Posted May 2, 2003 ---Angie, I agree with you. Most of the time I see ingredients like: Citronella, eucalyptus, lemon tea tree,pennyroyal, and lavender. Never heard of soybean... I also once saw a recipe including anise...when I mentioned that on another list someone said that anise was used to attract insects and rodents... hmmmm, wonder how it ever got classified as an aphrodesiac? LOL But I am excitedly waiting to see if soybean oil is true - never having had it in pure form, does it have a strong odor? Willow Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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