Re: Mind's not totally convinced

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> Any ideas on how I can reach my subconcious and really convince > it that I am ready to FEEL my way through life? I want to live > and not be possessed by these thoughts and fear of sensations > in my body that I have labeled negatively.

you're at a good beginning - just keep working on it patiently. it may take a while.

its not really a matter of "convincing" your mind. it's more like riding a bike - it's a skill & something you do, rather than an argument you have to win.

if you patiently work at building the skills, they will come. youll have small successes & they will start to accumulate more and more

for some inspirtation you might check out this post from way back on this list - this guy did ACT for a while on his own just like you are. he felt very frustrated but eventually it clicked for him -

http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/ACT_for_the_Public/message/1151

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I would say: Meditation, meditation, meditation.

And it is hard to get a practice going. So you start

with baby steps. Get the Jon Kabat-Zinn meditation

CD. Or take a yoga class once a week that has some

meditation at the end. Or set aside 10 minutes every

morning before you head off to work and vow that you

will sit there no matter what, with the intention of

stilling your mind with the leaves on the stream

visualization. Decide upfront that you won't give

credence to the voice that says " This isn't working! "

It will come.

--- Gwendolyn Taralli

wrote:

> I've had to revisit the ACT workbook often because I

> feel like my mind's just not buying it.

>

> This may all seem very funny to you and you may

> have known this already in relation to your

> struggles but I think that I've come to the

> conclusion that almost all of the pain, struggle,

> depression, symptoms that I experience are a result

> of me resisting them. Just the act of resisting so

> many things and certain feelings that I've deemed as

> 'bad' has caused me to be in this state of turmoil.

> I am so happy and relieved to know that most of my

> problems stem from this. A lot of people don't even

> get to this level of awareness. I have just

> subconsciously resisted so many things that I have

> layers and layers of stuff in my system. It actually

> feels like a rock-especially in the area of my solar

> plexus.

>

> However, here's the caveat...my body and mind have

> been so heavily trained in resistance, (which

> usually manifestes itself in the form of muscle

> contraction, freezing and holding my breath) that

> it's almost second nature even when I keep reminding

> myself to accept, invite, let go, surrender. How

> does one convince the mind to REALLY let go. I am

> 100% ready and willing to employ the methodogies

> suggested in ACT so why is the constant thought and

> fear of the symptom coming still lingering in the

> background? I also still have a hard time just being

> in the moment and giving whatever it is in front of

> me my undivided attention. My attention is still

> divided.

>

> Any ideas on how I can reach my subconcious and

> really convince it that I am ready to FEEL my way

> through life? I want to live and not be possessed by

> these thoughts and fear of sensations in my body

> that I have labeled negatively.

>

> Thanks!

>

>

> ---------------------------------

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Two mindfulness meditation CDs I've found extremely valuable are by

Dr Russ , an ACT therapist based in Melbourne. They are called

Mindfulness Skills Volume 1 and 2, and contain several ACT-based

meditation exercises, including the Leaves on a Stream visualisation

Virgina mentions below.

You can find more details at http://www.actmindfully.com.au/CDs.htm.

Stan

>

> > I've had to revisit the ACT workbook often because I

> > feel like my mind's just not buying it.

> >

> > This may all seem very funny to you and you may

> > have known this already in relation to your

> > struggles but I think that I've come to the

> > conclusion that almost all of the pain, struggle,

> > depression, symptoms that I experience are a result

> > of me resisting them. Just the act of resisting so

> > many things and certain feelings that I've deemed as

> > 'bad' has caused me to be in this state of turmoil.

> > I am so happy and relieved to know that most of my

> > problems stem from this. A lot of people don't even

> > get to this level of awareness. I have just

> > subconsciously resisted so many things that I have

> > layers and layers of stuff in my system. It actually

> > feels like a rock-especially in the area of my solar

> > plexus.

> >

> > However, here's the caveat...my body and mind have

> > been so heavily trained in resistance, (which

> > usually manifestes itself in the form of muscle

> > contraction, freezing and holding my breath) that

> > it's almost second nature even when I keep reminding

> > myself to accept, invite, let go, surrender. How

> > does one convince the mind to REALLY let go. I am

> > 100% ready and willing to employ the methodogies

> > suggested in ACT so why is the constant thought and

> > fear of the symptom coming still lingering in the

> > background? I also still have a hard time just being

> > in the moment and giving whatever it is in front of

> > me my undivided attention. My attention is still

> > divided.

> >

> > Any ideas on how I can reach my subconcious and

> > really convince it that I am ready to FEEL my way

> > through life? I want to live and not be possessed by

> > these thoughts and fear of sensations in my body

> > that I have labeled negatively.

> >

> > Thanks!

> >

> >

> > ---------------------------------

> > TV dinner still cooling?

> > Check out " Tonight's Picks " on Yahoo! TV.

>

>

>

>

>

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Two mindfulness meditation CDs I've found extremely valuable are by

Dr Russ , an ACT therapist based in Melbourne. They are called

Mindfulness Skills Volume 1 and 2, and contain several ACT-based

meditation exercises, including the Leaves on a Stream visualisation

Virgina mentions below.

You can find more details at http://www.actmindfully.com.au/CDs.htm.

Stan

>

> > I've had to revisit the ACT workbook often because I

> > feel like my mind's just not buying it.

> >

> > This may all seem very funny to you and you may

> > have known this already in relation to your

> > struggles but I think that I've come to the

> > conclusion that almost all of the pain, struggle,

> > depression, symptoms that I experience are a result

> > of me resisting them. Just the act of resisting so

> > many things and certain feelings that I've deemed as

> > 'bad' has caused me to be in this state of turmoil.

> > I am so happy and relieved to know that most of my

> > problems stem from this. A lot of people don't even

> > get to this level of awareness. I have just

> > subconsciously resisted so many things that I have

> > layers and layers of stuff in my system. It actually

> > feels like a rock-especially in the area of my solar

> > plexus.

> >

> > However, here's the caveat...my body and mind have

> > been so heavily trained in resistance, (which

> > usually manifestes itself in the form of muscle

> > contraction, freezing and holding my breath) that

> > it's almost second nature even when I keep reminding

> > myself to accept, invite, let go, surrender. How

> > does one convince the mind to REALLY let go. I am

> > 100% ready and willing to employ the methodogies

> > suggested in ACT so why is the constant thought and

> > fear of the symptom coming still lingering in the

> > background? I also still have a hard time just being

> > in the moment and giving whatever it is in front of

> > me my undivided attention. My attention is still

> > divided.

> >

> > Any ideas on how I can reach my subconcious and

> > really convince it that I am ready to FEEL my way

> > through life? I want to live and not be possessed by

> > these thoughts and fear of sensations in my body

> > that I have labeled negatively.

> >

> > Thanks!

> >

> >

> > ---------------------------------

> > TV dinner still cooling?

> > Check out " Tonight's Picks " on Yahoo! TV.

>

>

>

>

>

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Two mindfulness meditation CDs I've found extremely valuable are by

Dr Russ , an ACT therapist based in Melbourne. They are called

Mindfulness Skills Volume 1 and 2, and contain several ACT-based

meditation exercises, including the Leaves on a Stream visualisation

Virgina mentions below.

You can find more details at http://www.actmindfully.com.au/CDs.htm.

Stan

>

> > I've had to revisit the ACT workbook often because I

> > feel like my mind's just not buying it.

> >

> > This may all seem very funny to you and you may

> > have known this already in relation to your

> > struggles but I think that I've come to the

> > conclusion that almost all of the pain, struggle,

> > depression, symptoms that I experience are a result

> > of me resisting them. Just the act of resisting so

> > many things and certain feelings that I've deemed as

> > 'bad' has caused me to be in this state of turmoil.

> > I am so happy and relieved to know that most of my

> > problems stem from this. A lot of people don't even

> > get to this level of awareness. I have just

> > subconsciously resisted so many things that I have

> > layers and layers of stuff in my system. It actually

> > feels like a rock-especially in the area of my solar

> > plexus.

> >

> > However, here's the caveat...my body and mind have

> > been so heavily trained in resistance, (which

> > usually manifestes itself in the form of muscle

> > contraction, freezing and holding my breath) that

> > it's almost second nature even when I keep reminding

> > myself to accept, invite, let go, surrender. How

> > does one convince the mind to REALLY let go. I am

> > 100% ready and willing to employ the methodogies

> > suggested in ACT so why is the constant thought and

> > fear of the symptom coming still lingering in the

> > background? I also still have a hard time just being

> > in the moment and giving whatever it is in front of

> > me my undivided attention. My attention is still

> > divided.

> >

> > Any ideas on how I can reach my subconcious and

> > really convince it that I am ready to FEEL my way

> > through life? I want to live and not be possessed by

> > these thoughts and fear of sensations in my body

> > that I have labeled negatively.

> >

> > Thanks!

> >

> >

> > ---------------------------------

> > TV dinner still cooling?

> > Check out " Tonight's Picks " on Yahoo! TV.

>

>

>

>

>

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Two mindfulness meditation CDs I've found extremely valuable are by

Dr Russ , an ACT therapist based in Melbourne. They are called

Mindfulness Skills Volume 1 and 2, and contain several ACT-based

meditation exercises, including the Leaves on a Stream visualisation

Virgina mentions below.

You can find more details at http://www.actmindfully.com.au/CDs.htm.

Stan

>

> > I've had to revisit the ACT workbook often because I

> > feel like my mind's just not buying it.

> >

> > This may all seem very funny to you and you may

> > have known this already in relation to your

> > struggles but I think that I've come to the

> > conclusion that almost all of the pain, struggle,

> > depression, symptoms that I experience are a result

> > of me resisting them. Just the act of resisting so

> > many things and certain feelings that I've deemed as

> > 'bad' has caused me to be in this state of turmoil.

> > I am so happy and relieved to know that most of my

> > problems stem from this. A lot of people don't even

> > get to this level of awareness. I have just

> > subconsciously resisted so many things that I have

> > layers and layers of stuff in my system. It actually

> > feels like a rock-especially in the area of my solar

> > plexus.

> >

> > However, here's the caveat...my body and mind have

> > been so heavily trained in resistance, (which

> > usually manifestes itself in the form of muscle

> > contraction, freezing and holding my breath) that

> > it's almost second nature even when I keep reminding

> > myself to accept, invite, let go, surrender. How

> > does one convince the mind to REALLY let go. I am

> > 100% ready and willing to employ the methodogies

> > suggested in ACT so why is the constant thought and

> > fear of the symptom coming still lingering in the

> > background? I also still have a hard time just being

> > in the moment and giving whatever it is in front of

> > me my undivided attention. My attention is still

> > divided.

> >

> > Any ideas on how I can reach my subconcious and

> > really convince it that I am ready to FEEL my way

> > through life? I want to live and not be possessed by

> > these thoughts and fear of sensations in my body

> > that I have labeled negatively.

> >

> > Thanks!

> >

> >

> > ---------------------------------

> > TV dinner still cooling?

> > Check out " Tonight's Picks " on Yahoo! TV.

>

>

>

>

>

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Two mindfulness meditation CDs I've found extremely valuable are by

Dr Russ , an ACT therapist based in Melbourne. They are called

Mindfulness Skills Volume 1 and 2, and contain several ACT-based

meditation exercises, including the Leaves on a Stream visualisation

Virgina mentions below.

You can find more details at http://www.actmindfully.com.au/CDs.htm.

Stan

>

> > I've had to revisit the ACT workbook often because I

> > feel like my mind's just not buying it.

> >

> > This may all seem very funny to you and you may

> > have known this already in relation to your

> > struggles but I think that I've come to the

> > conclusion that almost all of the pain, struggle,

> > depression, symptoms that I experience are a result

> > of me resisting them. Just the act of resisting so

> > many things and certain feelings that I've deemed as

> > 'bad' has caused me to be in this state of turmoil.

> > I am so happy and relieved to know that most of my

> > problems stem from this. A lot of people don't even

> > get to this level of awareness. I have just

> > subconsciously resisted so many things that I have

> > layers and layers of stuff in my system. It actually

> > feels like a rock-especially in the area of my solar

> > plexus.

> >

> > However, here's the caveat...my body and mind have

> > been so heavily trained in resistance, (which

> > usually manifestes itself in the form of muscle

> > contraction, freezing and holding my breath) that

> > it's almost second nature even when I keep reminding

> > myself to accept, invite, let go, surrender. How

> > does one convince the mind to REALLY let go. I am

> > 100% ready and willing to employ the methodogies

> > suggested in ACT so why is the constant thought and

> > fear of the symptom coming still lingering in the

> > background? I also still have a hard time just being

> > in the moment and giving whatever it is in front of

> > me my undivided attention. My attention is still

> > divided.

> >

> > Any ideas on how I can reach my subconcious and

> > really convince it that I am ready to FEEL my way

> > through life? I want to live and not be possessed by

> > these thoughts and fear of sensations in my body

> > that I have labeled negatively.

> >

> > Thanks!

> >

> >

> > ---------------------------------

> > TV dinner still cooling?

> > Check out " Tonight's Picks " on Yahoo! TV.

>

>

>

>

>

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Two mindfulness meditation CDs I've found extremely valuable are by

Dr Russ , an ACT therapist based in Melbourne. They are called

Mindfulness Skills Volume 1 and 2, and contain several ACT-based

meditation exercises, including the Leaves on a Stream visualisation

Virgina mentions below.

You can find more details at http://www.actmindfully.com.au/CDs.htm.

Stan

>

> > I've had to revisit the ACT workbook often because I

> > feel like my mind's just not buying it.

> >

> > This may all seem very funny to you and you may

> > have known this already in relation to your

> > struggles but I think that I've come to the

> > conclusion that almost all of the pain, struggle,

> > depression, symptoms that I experience are a result

> > of me resisting them. Just the act of resisting so

> > many things and certain feelings that I've deemed as

> > 'bad' has caused me to be in this state of turmoil.

> > I am so happy and relieved to know that most of my

> > problems stem from this. A lot of people don't even

> > get to this level of awareness. I have just

> > subconsciously resisted so many things that I have

> > layers and layers of stuff in my system. It actually

> > feels like a rock-especially in the area of my solar

> > plexus.

> >

> > However, here's the caveat...my body and mind have

> > been so heavily trained in resistance, (which

> > usually manifestes itself in the form of muscle

> > contraction, freezing and holding my breath) that

> > it's almost second nature even when I keep reminding

> > myself to accept, invite, let go, surrender. How

> > does one convince the mind to REALLY let go. I am

> > 100% ready and willing to employ the methodogies

> > suggested in ACT so why is the constant thought and

> > fear of the symptom coming still lingering in the

> > background? I also still have a hard time just being

> > in the moment and giving whatever it is in front of

> > me my undivided attention. My attention is still

> > divided.

> >

> > Any ideas on how I can reach my subconcious and

> > really convince it that I am ready to FEEL my way

> > through life? I want to live and not be possessed by

> > these thoughts and fear of sensations in my body

> > that I have labeled negatively.

> >

> > Thanks!

> >

> >

> > ---------------------------------

> > TV dinner still cooling?

> > Check out " Tonight's Picks " on Yahoo! TV.

>

>

>

>

>

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Two mindfulness meditation CDs I've found extremely valuable are by

Dr Russ , an ACT therapist based in Melbourne. They are called

Mindfulness Skills Volume 1 and 2, and contain several ACT-based

meditation exercises, including the Leaves on a Stream visualisation

Virgina mentions below.

You can find more details at http://www.actmindfully.com.au/CDs.htm.

Stan

>

> > I've had to revisit the ACT workbook often because I

> > feel like my mind's just not buying it.

> >

> > This may all seem very funny to you and you may

> > have known this already in relation to your

> > struggles but I think that I've come to the

> > conclusion that almost all of the pain, struggle,

> > depression, symptoms that I experience are a result

> > of me resisting them. Just the act of resisting so

> > many things and certain feelings that I've deemed as

> > 'bad' has caused me to be in this state of turmoil.

> > I am so happy and relieved to know that most of my

> > problems stem from this. A lot of people don't even

> > get to this level of awareness. I have just

> > subconsciously resisted so many things that I have

> > layers and layers of stuff in my system. It actually

> > feels like a rock-especially in the area of my solar

> > plexus.

> >

> > However, here's the caveat...my body and mind have

> > been so heavily trained in resistance, (which

> > usually manifestes itself in the form of muscle

> > contraction, freezing and holding my breath) that

> > it's almost second nature even when I keep reminding

> > myself to accept, invite, let go, surrender. How

> > does one convince the mind to REALLY let go. I am

> > 100% ready and willing to employ the methodogies

> > suggested in ACT so why is the constant thought and

> > fear of the symptom coming still lingering in the

> > background? I also still have a hard time just being

> > in the moment and giving whatever it is in front of

> > me my undivided attention. My attention is still

> > divided.

> >

> > Any ideas on how I can reach my subconcious and

> > really convince it that I am ready to FEEL my way

> > through life? I want to live and not be possessed by

> > these thoughts and fear of sensations in my body

> > that I have labeled negatively.

> >

> > Thanks!

> >

> >

> > ---------------------------------

> > TV dinner still cooling?

> > Check out " Tonight's Picks " on Yahoo! TV.

>

>

>

>

>

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Two mindfulness meditation CDs I've found extremely valuable are by

Dr Russ , an ACT therapist based in Melbourne. They are called

Mindfulness Skills Volume 1 and 2, and contain several ACT-based

meditation exercises, including the Leaves on a Stream visualisation

Virgina mentions below.

You can find more details at http://www.actmindfully.com.au/CDs.htm.

Stan

>

> > I've had to revisit the ACT workbook often because I

> > feel like my mind's just not buying it.

> >

> > This may all seem very funny to you and you may

> > have known this already in relation to your

> > struggles but I think that I've come to the

> > conclusion that almost all of the pain, struggle,

> > depression, symptoms that I experience are a result

> > of me resisting them. Just the act of resisting so

> > many things and certain feelings that I've deemed as

> > 'bad' has caused me to be in this state of turmoil.

> > I am so happy and relieved to know that most of my

> > problems stem from this. A lot of people don't even

> > get to this level of awareness. I have just

> > subconsciously resisted so many things that I have

> > layers and layers of stuff in my system. It actually

> > feels like a rock-especially in the area of my solar

> > plexus.

> >

> > However, here's the caveat...my body and mind have

> > been so heavily trained in resistance, (which

> > usually manifestes itself in the form of muscle

> > contraction, freezing and holding my breath) that

> > it's almost second nature even when I keep reminding

> > myself to accept, invite, let go, surrender. How

> > does one convince the mind to REALLY let go. I am

> > 100% ready and willing to employ the methodogies

> > suggested in ACT so why is the constant thought and

> > fear of the symptom coming still lingering in the

> > background? I also still have a hard time just being

> > in the moment and giving whatever it is in front of

> > me my undivided attention. My attention is still

> > divided.

> >

> > Any ideas on how I can reach my subconcious and

> > really convince it that I am ready to FEEL my way

> > through life? I want to live and not be possessed by

> > these thoughts and fear of sensations in my body

> > that I have labeled negatively.

> >

> > Thanks!

> >

> >

> > ---------------------------------

> > TV dinner still cooling?

> > Check out " Tonight's Picks " on Yahoo! TV.

>

>

>

>

>

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Two mindfulness meditation CDs I've found extremely valuable are by

Dr Russ , an ACT therapist based in Melbourne. They are called

Mindfulness Skills Volume 1 and 2, and contain several ACT-based

meditation exercises, including the Leaves on a Stream visualisation

Virgina mentions below.

You can find more details at http://www.actmindfully.com.au/CDs.htm.

Stan

>

> > I've had to revisit the ACT workbook often because I

> > feel like my mind's just not buying it.

> >

> > This may all seem very funny to you and you may

> > have known this already in relation to your

> > struggles but I think that I've come to the

> > conclusion that almost all of the pain, struggle,

> > depression, symptoms that I experience are a result

> > of me resisting them. Just the act of resisting so

> > many things and certain feelings that I've deemed as

> > 'bad' has caused me to be in this state of turmoil.

> > I am so happy and relieved to know that most of my

> > problems stem from this. A lot of people don't even

> > get to this level of awareness. I have just

> > subconsciously resisted so many things that I have

> > layers and layers of stuff in my system. It actually

> > feels like a rock-especially in the area of my solar

> > plexus.

> >

> > However, here's the caveat...my body and mind have

> > been so heavily trained in resistance, (which

> > usually manifestes itself in the form of muscle

> > contraction, freezing and holding my breath) that

> > it's almost second nature even when I keep reminding

> > myself to accept, invite, let go, surrender. How

> > does one convince the mind to REALLY let go. I am

> > 100% ready and willing to employ the methodogies

> > suggested in ACT so why is the constant thought and

> > fear of the symptom coming still lingering in the

> > background? I also still have a hard time just being

> > in the moment and giving whatever it is in front of

> > me my undivided attention. My attention is still

> > divided.

> >

> > Any ideas on how I can reach my subconcious and

> > really convince it that I am ready to FEEL my way

> > through life? I want to live and not be possessed by

> > these thoughts and fear of sensations in my body

> > that I have labeled negatively.

> >

> > Thanks!

> >

> >

> > ---------------------------------

> > TV dinner still cooling?

> > Check out " Tonight's Picks " on Yahoo! TV.

>

>

>

>

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Does it really matter if your mind is convinced or not? Who makes

the decisions in your life, you or your mind? could it be that you

have it backwards? That its you that needs convincing, not the mind?

On the one hand you realize that all the friction in your life is due

to your resisting the painful products of the mind. On the other

hand you ask us when the mind is going to stop being the way it is

and be the way you want it to be. Take a look, isnt that more

resistance?

Your mind can and will do whatever it wants to. Whats the

difference? Does it mean anything at all? Is it you that is in

turmoil? The mind makes thoughts, pictures, nothing more.

That rock in your solar plexus may just be your best friend. Cause

that pain is a big blinking neon arrow pointing to right to where you

are resisting. Theres where you can look and practice acceptance. If

you are 100% ready, you can go there, open to whatever comes up.

Youre already doing it...reminding, reminding reminding. And every

time, you see that what the conditioned mind does simply does not

matter.

And maybe you forget, and then the mind runs from itself, divides

again and it hurts again. Until you remember, again, that an idea

can never possess you.

Want to live? Ha! What choice is there?

>

> I've had to revisit the ACT workbook often because I feel like my

mind's just not buying it.

>

> This may all seem very funny to you and you may have known this

already in relation to your struggles but I think that I've come to

the conclusion that almost all of the pain, struggle, depression,

symptoms that I experience are a result of me resisting them. Just

the act of resisting so many things and certain feelings that I've

deemed as 'bad' has caused me to be in this state of turmoil. I am so

happy and relieved to know that most of my problems stem from this. A

lot of people don't even get to this level of awareness. I have just

subconsciously resisted so many things that I have layers and layers

of stuff in my system. It actually feels like a rock-especially in

the area of my solar plexus.

>

> However, here's the caveat...my body and mind have been so

heavily trained in resistance, (which usually manifestes itself in

the form of muscle contraction, freezing and holding my breath) that

it's almost second nature even when I keep reminding myself to

accept, invite, let go, surrender. How does one convince the mind to

REALLY let go. I am 100% ready and willing to employ the methodogies

suggested in ACT so why is the constant thought and fear of the

symptom coming still lingering in the background? I also still have a

hard time just being in the moment and giving whatever it is in front

of me my undivided attention. My attention is still divided.

>

> Any ideas on how I can reach my subconcious and really convince

it that I am ready to FEEL my way through life? I want to live and

not be possessed by these thoughts and fear of sensations in my body

that I have labeled negatively.

>

> Thanks!

>

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I'm having the thought, " It's my mind that's resisting what IS... "

> > >

> > > I've had to revisit the ACT workbook often because

> > I feel like my

> > mind's just not buying it.

> > >

> > > This may all seem very funny to you and you may

> > have known this

> > already in relation to your struggles but I think

> > that I've come to

> > the conclusion that almost all of the pain,

> > struggle, depression,

> > symptoms that I experience are a result of me

> > resisting them. Just

> > the act of resisting so many things and certain

> > feelings that I've

> > deemed as 'bad' has caused me to be in this state of

> > turmoil. I am so

> > happy and relieved to know that most of my problems

> > stem from this. A

> > lot of people don't even get to this level of

> > awareness. I have just

> > subconsciously resisted so many things that I have

> > layers and layers

> > of stuff in my system. It actually feels like a

> > rock-especially in

> > the area of my solar plexus.

> > >

> > > However, here's the caveat...my body and mind

> > have been so

> > heavily trained in resistance, (which usually

> > manifestes itself in

> > the form of muscle contraction, freezing and holding

> > my breath) that

> > it's almost second nature even when I keep reminding

> > myself to

> > accept, invite, let go, surrender. How does one

> > convince the mind to

> > REALLY let go. I am 100% ready and willing to employ

> > the methodogies

> > suggested in ACT so why is the constant thought and

> > fear of the

> > symptom coming still lingering in the background? I

> > also still have a

> > hard time just being in the moment and giving

> > whatever it is in front

> > of me my undivided attention. My attention is still

> > divided.

> > >

> > > Any ideas on how I can reach my subconcious and

> > really convince

> > it that I am ready to FEEL my way through life? I

> > want to live and

> > not be possessed by these thoughts and fear of

> > sensations in my body

> > that I have labeled negatively.

> > >

> > > Thanks!

> > >

> > >

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> > >

> >

> >

> >

>

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[Guest guest]

Experiencing the mind as not being convinced is really nothing more

than experiencing the mind having a thought. I find it is best to

just see the thought and accept it as my thought. It is, afterall, my

thought--it is part of me, so why not accept it? If I feel the

thought should change, or go away, then I am not accepting it. I

don't have to believe the thought, just accept the fact that it exists

in my mind.

Someone mentioned the process of " remembering myself. " This

terminology comes from the groups that follow the ideas of Gurdjieff.

That is a whole other topic. People in the Gurdjieff groups making

efforts to " remember themselves " often start walking around like

zombies because they are not just witnessing, or accepting, their

thoughts, but are judging them and trying to control them. It is a

natural tendency in both the Gurdjieff groups and for those in ACT.

Zen type meditation, as someone already mentioned, is an invaluable

support to help in returning to a non-judgemental witness

consciousness, in my experience.