Re: Recipe for dry itchy skin

[Guest guest]

Hello Everyone

I'm looking for a small recipe to make for my daughter, she's 2 months

pregnant and her skin is stretching and itchy. She asked for something to

help with the itching and hopefully prevent stretch marks.... I have quite

a variety of oils & butters on hand and MSM powder. I was thinking of

something with MSM and some butters. Any help will be greatly

appreciated....... TIA Sue :-) (soon to be Grandma!!!!)

[Guest guest]

I'd make a whipped butter for her using shea, mango & cocoa some rosehip

seed oil, evening primrose perhaps or any other beneficial oil. A couple

drops of Neroli (depending on batch size)if you have it and voila.

Good luck,

Margaret

Natural Indulgences LLC

>Hello Everyone

>I'm looking for a small recipe to make for my daughter, she's 2 months

>pregnant and her skin is stretching and itchy. She asked for something to

>help with the itching and hopefully prevent stretch marks.... I have quite

>a variety of oils & butters on hand and MSM powder. I was thinking of

>something with MSM and some butters. Any help will be greatly

>appreciated....... TIA Sue :-) (soon to be Grandma!!!!)

>

>

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Thank you Margaret

I have everything except the Neroli..... What do you think of adding Emu

Oil? And MSM? I thought that might help with the itching...... Sue

Re: Recipe for dry itchy skin

> I'd make a whipped butter for her using shea, mango & cocoa some rosehip

> seed oil, evening primrose perhaps or any other beneficial oil. A couple

> drops of Neroli (depending on batch size)if you have it and voila.

>

> Good luck,

> Margaret

> Natural Indulgences LLC

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Sue,

Personally, I think that you are treading in some very dangerous waters

here. MSM is used as a penetration enhancer and therefore can drive

substances into the skin. Without knowing what you are working with you

risk the chance that some substances can enter into the bloodstream and

cross the placenta. Be careful!!

Young

KY Labs

Innovators of Fine Personal Care Products

www.kylabs.com

Re: Recipe for dry itchy skin

Hello Everyone

I'm looking for a small recipe to make for my daughter, she's 2 months

pregnant and her skin is stretching and itchy. She asked for something

to

help with the itching and hopefully prevent stretch marks.... I have

quite

a variety of oils & butters on hand and MSM powder. I was thinking of

something with MSM and some butters. Any help will be greatly

appreciated....... TIA Sue :-) (soon to be Grandma!!!!)

[Guest guest]

Thanks ,

I didn't consider that...... SCRATCH the MSM...... Is there anything else

you can think of to help with the itching?....... Sue

RE: Re: Recipe for dry itchy skin

> Sue,

>

>

>

> Personally, I think that you are treading in some very dangerous waters

> here. MSM is used as a penetration enhancer and therefore can drive

> substances into the skin. Without knowing what you are working with you

> risk the chance that some substances can enter into the bloodstream and

> cross the placenta. Be careful!!

>

>

>

> Young

>

[Guest guest]

My daughter-in-law used straight Emu Oil and her doctor commented on how

soft her skin was. The itching is probably due to the dry skin take care

of that and the itching will go away.

Jane

Sue wrote:

> Thanks ,

>

> I didn't consider that...... SCRATCH the MSM...... Is there anything

> else

> you can think of to help with the itching?....... Sue

> RE: Re: Recipe for dry itchy skin

>

>

> > Sue,

> >

> >

> >

> > Personally, I think that you are treading in some very dangerous waters

> > here. MSM is used as a penetration enhancer and therefore can drive

> > substances into the skin. Without knowing what you are working with you

> > risk the chance that some substances can enter into the bloodstream and

> > cross the placenta. Be careful!!

> >

> >

> >

> > Young

> >

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

MSM is used as a penetration enhancer and therefore can drive

> substances into the skin.

, I would like to read about that. Can you tell me where I can find the

data?

Pat.

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[Guest guest]

Butter helps a lot, but nothing helps itching as much as oats ...

Angies Herbarie sells hydrolized oats that would be excellent in the bath.

-

[Guest guest]

Pat,

I read this sometime ago. I was looking at its chemical structure and it

is similar to DMSO, which is also a solvent and known penetration

enhancer. I am sure that a search of the NTP and/or Medline will bring

up some of those references. If I can find them later today I will post

them.

Young

KY Labs

Innovators of Fine Personal Care Products

www.kylabs.com

Re: Re: Recipe for dry itchy skin

MSM is used as a penetration enhancer and therefore can drive

> substances into the skin.

, I would like to read about that. Can you tell me where I can find

the

data?

Pat.

Peace, Joy, Serenity

House of Scents tm. Body Oils, Fragrance Oils, Incense, Candles, Soap,

Etc.

pat@...

http://www.houseofscents.com/

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[Guest guest]

Re: Recipe for dry itchy skin

> I'd make a whipped butter for her using shea, mango & cocoa some rosehip

> seed oil, evening primrose perhaps or any other beneficial oil. A couple

> drops of Neroli (depending on batch size)if you have it and voila.

>

> Good luck,

> Margaret

> Natural Indulgences LLC

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Hi Sue

MSM does not dissolve in oils, only in water. So you cannot put this into a

body butter, but you can incorporate it into a cream

at up to 17% of the water portion. In a cream, MSM helps to " soften " the cell

walls making them more pliable. Great for the face.

MSM will penetrate the skin (as it is on substance that can penetrate cells) and

so will find itself in the body.

MSM is basically sulphur and according to Stanley W. , M.D. the largest

concentration of sulphur is found in human milk.

According to a pamphlet I just picked up from the drug store, " MSM is a

sulfur-donor to the many metabolic operations that depend on

adequate daily sulfur supply, including healing processes. Sulfur is critical

to the production of collagen, the chief constituent

of all connective tissue in the body. "

The itching your daughter is experiencing is not from dry skin, but rather from

the stretching of the skin (been there, done that),

indicating that stretch marks are in the making. I would suggest that if you

are going to make a butter that you use a combo of

Emu Oil, Virgin Coconut oil, Rosehip Oil and Cocoa Butter, and apply many times

per day. All of these will help make the skin more

supple. In a cream, I would use all of these oils plus some MSM.

HTH

Thank you Margaret

I have everything except the Neroli..... What do you think of adding Emu

Oil? And MSM? I thought that might help with the itching...... Sue

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>Subject: RE: Re: Recipe for dry itchy skin

>Date: Sat, 19 Apr 2003 06:44:44 -0400

>

>Pat,

>

>

>

>I read this sometime ago. I was looking at its chemical structure and it

>is similar to DMSO, which is also a solvent and known penetration

>enhancer. I am sure that a search of the NTP and/or Medline will bring

>up some of those references. If I can find them later today I will post

>them.

>

>

>

> Young

>

>KY Labs

>

>Innovators of Fine Personal Care Products

>

>www.kylabs.com

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> Thanks ,

>

> I didn't consider that...... SCRATCH the MSM...... Is there

> anything else

> you can think of to help with the itching?....... Sue

I'm no expert, but I am thinking a really rich whipped butter or a really

rich cream--full of wonderful things like shea butter, aloe butter, sweet

almond oil, avacado butter, possibly jojoba or emu oil, rosehip seed oil,

aloe vera juice. . . you getting my drift?

HTH,

[Guest guest]

>

>I'm no expert, but I am thinking a really rich whipped butter or a really

>rich cream--full of wonderful things like shea butter, aloe butter, sweet

>almond oil, avacado butter, possibly jojoba or emu oil, rosehip seed oil,

>aloe vera juice. . . you getting my drift?

Hi Folks, the problems with skin stretching and stretch marks have a great

deal to do with how much elastin you have in your skin, and this something

you inherit. I blitzed my belly with oils and vitamin e, and have a

collection of stretch marks that is awesome.....my little girls were much

interested in which of them had produced what mark!

For itch have you tried calamine?

best regards, Brigid

[Guest guest]

Hi Sue,

Your welcome. Since the others have commented on the msm I will address the

other. I think using emu oil is fine if you like it. Also, if you infuse

herbs at all, chickweed has been reported to help with itching. Combine it

with calendula for an awesome blend.

IMHO I would keep the ingredients as simple as possible since pregnant women

generally have sensitive skin and or sensitivities that might not have been

there before.

Let us know how whatever you do turns out!

Margaret

>

>Thank you Margaret

>I have everything except the Neroli..... What do you think of adding Emu

>Oil? And MSM? I thought that might help with the itching...... Sue

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known penetration

> enhancer. I am sure that a search of the NTP and/or Medline will bring

> up some of those references.

, I have not found anything searching through the NLM Gateway to

suggest this. Perhaps I am using the wrong search term. I think it is

important to be able to verify this information for the list.

Pat.

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In a message dated 4/21/03 8:59:54 AM Pacific Daylight Time,

sheerbliss@... writes:

> I didn't thinks of oats!!!! You're right, that really helped when she had

> Chicken Pox..... will work with that too..... Thanks, Sue :-)

> Re: Recipe for dry itchy skin

>

>

> >Butter helps a lot, but nothing helps itching as much as oats ...

> >Angies Herbarie sells hydrolized oats that would be excellent in the bath.

> >-

>

Hi and Sue,

The Hydrolyzed Oats are a nice product, particularly in a leave-on product

such as a cream/lotion/toner, etc. All proteins can help the skin retain

moisture, but I wouldn't use them for a bath. For the bath, I would

recommend using whole oats that have been finely ground or the VenaSilk that

we sell at The Herbarie. Whole oats work fine, but leave a residue in the

bath. For an elegant bath, this is not very desirable and the VenaSilk would

be preferable, but for a bath that is " therapeutic " it may not be an issue.

I don't remember seeing the original question, so forgive me if someone has

already made this point. Dry, itchy skin can be a result of many

things--dietary, environmental/allergic reaction, genetic, etc. so a bath or

application of an ointment or cream of some sort may be soothing, but may not

address the real problem.

There have been some studies on the use of evening primrose oil dietary

supplements and either psorisis or eczema?? that have shown very promising

results. My own personal experience is that the supplements do seem to help

with the overall condition of my skin...but who knows?

Anyhow, hope this helps.

Angie

The Herbarie - Botanicals and Body Care

Natural Source & Specialty Bulk Ingredients...Exceptional Quality

at Wholesale Prices...visit us at http://www.theherbarie.com

[Guest guest]

Thanks for the input , I got a message from and he suggested

omitting the MSM (it could cross the placenta)..... I haven't made the

cream yet. I had some made with Cocoa Butter, and Shea that she is trying

now. She says the skin is real sore now. I never had that problem when I

was pregnant, but she is already showing (11 weeks) so I know she will

probably get alot bigger as time goes by...... Thanks again, I may try

another recipe for her if the Cocoa Butter cream doesn't help....... Sue

:-)

Re: Recipe for dry itchy skin

> Hi Sue

>

> MSM does not dissolve in oils, only in water. So you cannot put this

into a body butter, but you can incorporate it into a cream

> at up to 17% of the water portion. In a cream, MSM helps to " soften " the

cell walls making them more pliable. Great for the face.

> MSM will penetrate the skin (as it is on substance that can penetrate

cells) and so will find itself in the body.

>

[Guest guest]

I didn't thinks of oats!!!! You're right, that really helped when she had

Chicken Pox..... will work with that too..... Thanks, Sue :-)

Re: Recipe for dry itchy skin

> Butter helps a lot, but nothing helps itching as much as oats ...

> Angies Herbarie sells hydrolized oats that would be excellent in the bath.

> -

>

>

[Guest guest]

Hi Margaret, I do have some Olive oil infused with calendula..... That

would be easy to add to a cream too..... you're wonderful...... Thanks

again, Sue :-)

Re: Recipe for dry itchy skin

> Hi Sue,

>

> Your welcome. Since the others have commented on the msm I will address

the

> other. I think using emu oil is fine if you like it. Also, if you infuse

> herbs at all, chickweed has been reported to help with itching. Combine

it

> with calendula for an awesome blend.

>

[Guest guest]

Jane

I made her some Emu Oil with Tea Tree Oil added for nail fungus (1 oz Emu to

15 drops TT) do you think that would be okay for the rest of her skin? I

wasn't sure about the TTO...... TIA Sue :-)

Re: Re: Recipe for dry itchy skin

> My daughter-in-law used straight Emu Oil and her doctor commented on how

> soft her skin was. The itching is probably due to the dry skin take care

> of that and the itching will go away.

> Jane

>

>

[Guest guest]

In a message dated 4/21/03 12:15:25 PM Pacific Daylight Time,

mystica_rose@... writes:

> Hi Angie,

> My son has excema that is very bad. He works at Walmart too and whatever he

>

> gets into there makes it much worse. Do you think that a cream with evening

>

> primrose/emu,calendula would help? How much primrose is recommended for

> oral

> supplement? He is very embarressed with this. The doctors have given him

> the

> strongest cortizone on the market and he really hates to use it. Any other

> suggestions from anyone would be greatly appreciated.

> TIA

>

>

Hi ,

You may be interested in doing a medline search. I use this link: <A

HREF= " http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/entrez/query.fcgi?db=PubMed " >

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/entrez/query.fcgi?db=PubMed</A>

In the search area, type in: [ evening primrose oil eczema ] and also [

psoriasis evening primrose oil] or [ essential fatty acids eczema] You will

see alot of information and can read many of the abstracts and then decide

for yourself. The results vary.

If your son is under a doctor's care, you may want to research some of these

things for yourself and discuss them with the doctor. The standard of care

is to prescribe a cortisone type of cream for the itching and the

inflammation. The cause of atopic eczema is not completely understood, but

appears to be a genetic pre-disposition and can also be triggered by allergic

reactions. Obviously that's what is happening to your son at work. You

could ask the doctor if he/she considers a dietary supplement, such as

evening primrose, and perhaps a cream that is high in EFAs (particularly

gamma linoleic acid) a viable option for your son. I doubt there is much

risk, if any, involved in trying this type supplement, so it may be worth a

try...but check with the doctor first.

Good luck with it!

Angie

The Herbarie - Botanicals and Body Care

Natural Source & Specialty Bulk Ingredients...Exceptional Quality

at Wholesale Prices...visit us at http://www.theherbarie.com

[Guest guest]

In a message dated 4/21/03 1:23:45 PM Pacific Daylight Time,

sheerbliss@... writes:

> Thanks Angie,

> The dry, itching skin is due to my DD pregnancy..... She is getting big

> fast, still in her 1st trimester and showing..... I'm trying to come up

> with a recipe that will help with stretch marks and of course the symptoms

> she's experiencing now..... Thanks for your advice.... Sue :-)

>

Hi Sue,

Oh, stretch marks.....I remember those Mine are about gone now and only

the wonderful memories remain Someone referred to them as " a badge of

courage " and I tend to agree I've heard of various remedies, but I don't

know if anyone has really figured that one out yet....but my guess is it's

probably not a heck of a lot different from other skin. Anything that keeps

the skin moist and conditioned would be good.

Angie

The Herbarie - Botanicals and Body Care

Natural Source & Specialty Bulk Ingredients...Exceptional Quality

at Wholesale Prices...visit us at http://www.theherbarie.com

[Guest guest]

Hi Sue

I am sure the MSM would cross the placenta, weather it would be harmful or not?

- well, best to error on the side of caution. The

greatest percentage of sulphur found in nature is in Human milk, but msm is not

ALL sulphur. If it was me, I would just go for the

Virgin Oil de Coco Creme, and Emu, they both make the skin very soft.

I think the point everyone is missing here is that the itching is from the skin

being stretched and not because it is dry. Pretty

much any cream will help dry skin (some more than others granted), but to keep

the skin cells supple is going to be trickier. I

expanded so fast with all my pregnancies that I was wearing maternity clothes at

6-7 weeks. The Doctor told me that elasticity in

skin was hereditary. I am sure it is, but, keeping the skin hydrated and supple

certainly is not going to hurt and who knows, it

might help. Also controlling weight gain may help her skin catch up to the

baby's growth plans:-). I hope she enjoys her little

one.

Re: Recipe for dry itchy skin

> Hi Sue

>

> MSM does not dissolve in oils, only in water. So you cannot put this

into a body butter, but you can incorporate it into a cream

> at up to 17% of the water portion. In a cream, MSM helps to " soften " the

cell walls making them more pliable. Great for the face.

> MSM will penetrate the skin (as it is on substance that can penetrate

cells) and so will find itself in the body.

>

[Guest guest]

Thanks Angie,

The dry, itching skin is due to my DD pregnancy..... She is getting big

fast, still in her 1st trimester and showing..... I'm trying to come up

with a recipe that will help with stretch marks and of course the symptoms

she's experiencing now..... Thanks for your advice.... Sue :-)

> >

>

> Hi and Sue,

> The Hydrolyzed Oats are a nice product, particularly in a leave-on product

> such as a cream/lotion/toner, etc. All proteins can help the skin retain

> moisture, but I wouldn't use them for a bath. For the bath, I would

> recommend using whole oats that have been finely ground or the VenaSilk

that

> we sell at The Herbarie. Whole oats work fine, but leave a residue in the

> bath. For an elegant bath, this is not very desirable and the VenaSilk

would

> be preferable, but for a bath that is " therapeutic " it may not be an

issue.

>

> I don't remember seeing the original question, so forgive me if someone

has

> already made this point. Dry, itchy skin can be a result of many

> things--dietary, environmental/allergic reaction, genetic, etc. so a bath

or

> application of an ointment or cream of some sort may be soothing, but may

not

> address the real problem.

>

> There have been some studies on the use of evening primrose oil dietary

> supplements and either psorisis or eczema?? that have shown very promising

> results. My own personal experience is that the supplements do seem to

help

> with the overall condition of my skin...but who knows?

>

> Anyhow, hope this helps.

> Angie

> The Herbarie - Botanicals and Body Care

> Natural Source & Specialty Bulk Ingredients...Exceptional Quality

> at Wholesale Prices...visit us at http://www.theherbarie.com

>

>

>