Guest guest Posted April 1, 2003 Report Share Posted April 1, 2003 At 01:21 PM 4/1/03 +0000, you wrote: >Just my own two cents on the subject, I have nothing scientific to back >this up with. But I live in the desert, and I find that 'glycerine' >soaps, even very nice and expensive ones, dry the daylights out of my >skin. So I suspect that they do pull moisture from the skin if the air >is drier. One of the things that I always remember from high-school >biology, " Nature loves a balance. " Meaning, everything will balance >out. If the air is dry and you are not, you will get drier. If the air >is moist and you are dry, you will get more moist. But I live in hot and humid Nashville...and M & P soaps dry the daylights out of my skin, as well... maybe it's the alcohol, not the glycerine??? Your source for superb Essential Oils, Aromatherapy Accessories, Information, Books and more! Visit us at: <http://www.naturesgift.com> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 1, 2003 Report Share Posted April 1, 2003 >But I live in hot and humid Nashville...and M & P soaps dry the daylights out >of my skin, as well... maybe it's the alcohol, not the glycerine??? My guess the high pH is stripping the natural lipids from the skin. Maurice -------------------------------------------------------- Maurice O. Hevey Convergent Cosmetics, Inc. http://www.ConvergentCosmetics.com ------------------------------------------------------- Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 1, 2003 Report Share Posted April 1, 2003 At 01:21 PM 4/1/03 +0000, you wrote: > You'd be surprised [or maybe not] that many >M & P crafters do not know that the big block they start with is NOT >glycerin...it is a product containing MANY chemical ingredients. >Some think they are just melting down glycerin!! No I wouldn't.... it's amazing how many websites state that their soap is made from pure glycerine! Your source for superb Essential Oils, Aromatherapy Accessories, Information, Books and more! Visit us at: <http://www.naturesgift.com> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 1, 2003 Report Share Posted April 1, 2003 >>But I live in hot and humid Nashville...and M & P soaps dry the daylights out of my skin, as well... maybe it's the alcohol, not the glycerine??? Ditto Marge, you know how humid it gets over here too -- I often wonder at all those pretty glycerin soaps that are sold as baby soap? Jan Flood oakridge@... www.oakridgefarm.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 1, 2003 Report Share Posted April 1, 2003 At 01:29 PM 4/1/03 -0600, Maurice O. Hevey wrote: >My guess the high pH is stripping the natural lipids from the skin. and that could well be... we used to use a M & P base from a 'good supplier' for the 'clarifying soap' that we offer... the eo's in it are really TOO expensive to put in cold process soap... we ended up using them in liquid castille instead, because I couldn't even handle the M & P to cut it up and melt it down...and if I can't handle it DRY do I want folks putting it on their faces? left me feeling PARCHED... Your source for superb Essential Oils, Aromatherapy Accessories, Information, Books and more! Visit us at: <http://www.naturesgift.com> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 1, 2003 Report Share Posted April 1, 2003 At 01:29 PM 4-1-03 -0600, you wrote: > > > >But I live in hot and humid Nashville...and M & P soaps dry the daylights out > >of my skin, as well... maybe it's the alcohol, not the glycerine??? > >My guess the high pH is stripping the natural lipids from the skin. > >Maurice Whats the pH of M & P soap? T. Potomac Soap Co. LLC www.potomacsoapco.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 1, 2003 Report Share Posted April 1, 2003 Maybe you should try a better grade of glycerin soap. I would be happy to send you a sample of glycerin soap made without alcohol. It would be interesting to hear if that one dries your skin, since I find just the opposite, and the air is very dry here in New England in the winter. Also saying something is made with pure glycerin is not the same as saying something is made of ONLY glycerin, just that the glycerin is pure. I know it's still meaningless, but ... Heidi http://www.heidisherbals.com Re: " glycerine " soap > But I live in hot and humid Nashville...and M & P soaps dry the daylights out > of my skin, as well... maybe it's the alcohol, not the glycerine??? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 2, 2003 Report Share Posted April 2, 2003 If those nice super smart chemist guys could look at the ingredients list I bet they could shed some light on the drying subject. I don't believe that most, and I mean most, M & P soapers make their own base. {as much as I want to, I admit, I am intimidated by adding alcohol to see if I can blow myself up! LOL you should have seen what I just did with lye and honeywater ha ha ha] I am amazed at the list of sodium based ingredients besides the SLS I've read so many discussions about - not to mention the alcohol... I do like using M & P base becuase it's easier to work with for detailed molds, [which I adore] but I always add aloe,e,some kind of oil i.e. s almond,avocado,etc and things like almond butter, colloidal oatmeal, calendula...for added gentleness. I am glad this discussion came up however becuz I am definately rethinking my usage of M & P bases. No science here, just feeling that using oils that I choose is a better bar when I make CP. FWIW Willow Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 2, 2003 Report Share Posted April 2, 2003 > I am amazed at the list of sodium based ingredients< Those are actually the soap ingredients...soap is chemically a salt. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 2, 2003 Report Share Posted April 2, 2003 Hi Everyone, Been a while since I have been on the list and I have learned a lot in that time. Lost out ISP here, but back now. For the M & P glycerine soaps I found that it is the added detergent ingredients and the solvents added that make the skin dry for my family and customers. I even tried adding bits of good oils and even Jojoba to help and not go, it still dried the skin out. So those bases got used of washing cloths by melting and diluting them into a heavy gel. Now I only make my soaps from scratch and it is amazing how well they do. I really enjoy the recipes that are on one site tlcsoaps. they have been the best help so far. Learning how to make lotions and such now and loving it. Thanks goodness for good safe preservatives to use ...Germall Powder is the one that I am using now ... but I wish I knew more about what it is made of. ?? My skin sure don't mind it like it did the other one that I used, can't remember the name but it has parabens in it and I was not sure of how much to use. HelenC Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 3, 2003 Report Share Posted April 3, 2003 In-Reply-To: <10493748.m12 > Hi Willow, > If those nice super smart chemist guys could look at the ingredients > list I bet they could shed some light on the drying subject. My guess is that M & P is just better at removing grease from the skin than ordinary soap. the ingredients list someone quoted earlier contains a detergent (sodium laureth sulphate), a foaming agent and some soap (sodium stearate) amongst other things. The combination would be fairly efficient at emulsifying grease and removing it from your skin. > I am amazed at the list of sodium based ingredients besides the SLS I'm puzzled why you comment on this. Ordinary soap is the sodium salts of various fatty acids, and sodium is an extremely common element. You eat it every day as it forms part of the chemical that is common table salt (sodium chloride), and your body won't function without it. PatS in Somerset, England Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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