Re: skin eruptions (Charlotte)

[Guest guest]

Hi ,

THE FIVE CHEMICAL INGREDIENTS were the ones that were bothering me, causing me itching with skin eruptions/hives/minute acne-like.

Here they are, "in order of appearance":

1. Phenoxyethanol

2. Dimeticone

3. Triethanolamine

4. PEG-100 Stearate

5. Benzethonium Chloride

gave you the reasons why these are toxic, I cannot add to that, but thanks for asking.

Charlotte

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Re: skin eruptions (Charlotte)

it's okay -- I have all the ingredients printed out. I was just wondering if you had found out EXACTLY what was bothering you. > > I know, I said my liver has been since childhood, nd still is now, > the weakest part. She tested all my organs.> > At least now I know what it is in the formula that does it, thanks to > your disclosure of those chemicals, some of which may have other > additional effects that don't show on the outside...> > Thanks ,> > Charlotte> > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: Lenel > > To: rhythmicliving > > Sent: Wednesday, April 27, 2005 7:48 PM> > > > > > > click here for our webpage http://rhythmicliving.com/> > Our sister group for research and high volume> http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/Rhythmic_Living_Research/> > **This group has no pharmacy or commercial affiliations. Any mention of product or a pharmacy is within the scope of that group member's experience and does not represent the view of the list owner. Please check directly with pharmacies for details about their product and policies. Not everything you hear on an e-mail list is the truth even if it is a member's best effort to report their experience which may vary from your own. There are many variables that determine how we feel.***> > **The group conversation is informational in nature and is not intended as medical advice. Anyone wishing to actively use this information or members' opionins for personal health improvement is advised to consult with the qualified health care provider of their choice before attempting to use the information. Membership on this list constitutes agreement that you will not consider any of this medical advice. Discuss your decisions with your doctor.** > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------>

[Guest guest]

Hi again. This isn't good. And I can tell you that the other base

cream I was on from Hickey Pharmacy in NY gave me the same

dermatitis problems. You mean to tell me that something safer

hasn't been found YET?

> > > I know, I said my liver has been since childhood, nd still

is

> now,

> > the weakest part. She tested all my organs.

> > > At least now I know what it is in the formula that does

it,

> thanks to

> > your disclosure of those chemicals, some of which may have

other

> > additional effects that don't show on the outside...

> > > Thanks ,

> > > Charlotte

> > > ----- Original Message -----

> > > From: Lenel

> > > To: rhythmicliving

> > > Sent: Wednesday, April 27, 2005 7:48 PM

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > click here for our webpage http://rhythmicliving.com/

> >

> > Our sister group for research and high volume

> >

http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/Rhythmic_Living_Research/

> >

> > **This group has no pharmacy or commercial affiliations.

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[Guest guest]

There is a commercially available product called Estrasorb. Here are the

prescribing instructions:

http://www.fda.gov/cder/foi/label/2003/21371_estrasorb_lbl.pdf

It would take an awfully big bunch to get to an estradiol level of 300 or

so.

Val

-----Original Message-----

From: rhythmicliving

[mailto:rhythmicliving ]On Behalf Of

Hi again. This isn't good. And I can tell you that the other base

cream I was on from Hickey Pharmacy in NY gave me the same

dermatitis problems. You mean to tell me that something safer

hasn't been found YET?

[Guest guest]

Safer yes, but apparently not as effectively showing blood numbers, - if they waited long enough before the blood draw (3 months). , were you on the olive oil + drops long enough to check your blood ? Also, maybe oil formulas may have to be applied every 4 hours to "keep us going" and not have "slumps" in energy. Is anybody still on the oils at this moment? Those gals who are, can you possibly, kindly, try that out?

Enough for tonight, cheereo!

Charlotte

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Re: skin eruptions (Charlotte)

Hi again. This isn't good. And I can tell you that the other base cream I was on from Hickey Pharmacy in NY gave me the same dermatitis problems. You mean to tell me that something safer hasn't been found YET? > > > I know, I said my liver has been since childhood, nd still is > now, > > the weakest part. She tested all my organs.> > > At least now I know what it is in the formula that does it, > thanks to > > your disclosure of those chemicals, some of which may have other > > additional effects that don't show on the outside...> > > Thanks ,> > > Charlotte> > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > From: Lenel > > > To: rhythmicliving > > > Sent: Wednesday, April 27, 2005 7:48 PM> > > > > > > > > > > > > > click here for our webpage http://rhythmicliving.com/> > > > Our sister group for research and high volume> > http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/Rhythmic_Living_Research/> > > > **This group has no pharmacy or commercial affiliations. Any > mention of product or a pharmacy is within the scope of that group > member's experience and does not represent the view of the list > owner. Please check directly with pharmacies for details about their > product and policies. Not everything you hear on an e-mail list is > the truth even if it is a member's best effort to report their > experience which may vary from your own. There are many variables > that determine how we feel.***> > > > **The group conversation is informational in nature and is not > intended as medical advice. Anyone wishing to actively use this > information or members' opionins for personal health improvement is > advised to consult with the qualified health care provider of their > choice before attempting to use the information. Membership on this > list constitutes agreement that you will not consider any of this > medical advice. Discuss your decisions with your doctor.** > > > > > > > > -------------------------------------------------------------------> -----------> >

[Guest guest]

Thank you Val,

but I wouldn't use anything that does not have a 100% natural bases. Ethanol doesn't sound very enticing.

Charlotte

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RE: Re: skin eruptions (Charlotte)

There is a commercially available product called Estrasorb. Here are theprescribing instructions:http://www.fda.gov/cder/foi/label/2003/21371_estrasorb_lbl.pdfIt would take an awfully big bunch to get to an estradiol level of 300 orso.Val-----Original Message-----From: rhythmicliving [mailto:rhythmicliving ]On Behalf Of Hi again. This isn't good. And I can tell you that the other basecream I was on from Hickey Pharmacy in NY gave me the samedermatitis problems. You mean to tell me that something saferhasn't been found YET?click here for our webpage http://rhythmicliving.com/Our sister group for research and high volumehttp://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/Rhythmic_Living_Research/**This group has no pharmacy or commercial affiliations. Any mention of product or a pharmacy is within the scope of that group member's experience and does not represent the view of the list owner. Please check directly with pharmacies for details about their product and policies. Not everything you hear on an e-mail list is the truth even if it is a member's best effort to report their experience which may vary from your own. There are many variables that determine how we feel.*****The group conversation is informational in nature and is not intended as medical advice. Anyone wishing to actively use this information or members' opionins for personal health improvement is advised to consult with the qualified health care provider of their choice before attempting to use the information. Membership on this list constitutes agreement that you will not consider any of this medical advice. Discuss your decisions with your doctor.**

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I tried Estrasorb and crashed and burned on it. I had been talked out of the WP during my 7 or 8th cycle. Probably because I came from the higher dose E and went to a low dose. Plus it seemed to go in SO fast. Within the hour, my heart would be racing, sweating, and then I was nauseous and had headaches. I did it for about 2 -3 weeks and then put myself back on the transdermals.

Liz V.

From: rhythmicliving [mailto:rhythmicliving ] On Behalf Of Valarie Sent: Friday, April 29, 2005 8:03 PMTo: rhythmicliving Subject: RE: Re: skin eruptions (Charlotte)

There is a commercially available product called Estrasorb. Here are theprescribing instructions:http://www.fda.gov/cder/foi/label/2003/21371_estrasorb_lbl.pdfIt would take an awfully big bunch to get to an estradiol level of 300 orso.Val-----Original Message-----From: rhythmicliving [mailto:rhythmicliving ]On Behalf Of Hi again. This isn't good. And I can tell you that the other basecream I was on from Hickey Pharmacy in NY gave me the samedermatitis problems. You mean to tell me that something saferhasn't been found YET?click here for our webpage http://rhythmicliving.com/Our sister group for research and high volumehttp://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/Rhythmic_Living_Research/**This group has no pharmacy or commercial affiliations. Any mention of product or a pharmacy is within the scope of that group member's experience and does not represent the view of the list owner. Please check directly with pharmacies for details about their product and policies. Not everything you hear on an e-mail list is the truth even if it is a member's best effort to report their experience which may vary from your own. There are many variables that determine how we feel.*****The group conversation is informational in nature and is not intended as medical advice. Anyone wishing to actively use this information or members' opionins for personal health improvement is advised to consult with the qualified health care provider of their choice before attempting to use the information. Membership on this list constitutes agreement that you will not consider any of this medical advice. Discuss your decisions with your doctor.**

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The OO for me couldn't get rid of my back pain, I dosed every 2-4 hrs, more and less drops...just couldn't get the pain to go. Did it for 4-5 days, but broke down and added HRT cream, in 35 mins. pain gone! So no, I didn't do blood because it wasn't helping me and I like comfy.

[Guest guest]

> > > > I know, I said my liver has been since childhood, nd

still

> is

> > now,

> > > the weakest part. She tested all my organs.

> > > > At least now I know what it is in the formula that

does

> it,

> > thanks to

> > > your disclosure of those chemicals, some of which may

have

> other

> > > additional effects that don't show on the outside...

> > > > Thanks ,

> > > > Charlotte

> > > > ----- Original Message -----

> > > > From: Lenel

> > > > To: rhythmicliving

> > > > Sent: Wednesday, April 27, 2005 7:48 PM

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > click here for our webpage http://rhythmicliving.com/

> > >

> > > Our sister group for research and high volume

> > >

> http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/Rhythmic_Living_Research/

> > >

> > > **This group has no pharmacy or commercial

affiliations.

> Any

> > mention of product or a pharmacy is within the scope of that

> group

> > member's experience and does not represent the view of the

list

> > owner. Please check directly with pharmacies for details

about

> their

> > product and policies. Not everything you hear on an e-mail

list

> is

> > the truth even if it is a member's best effort to report

their

> > experience which may vary from your own. There are many

> variables

> > that determine how we feel.***

> > >

> > > **The group conversation is informational in nature and

is

> not

> > intended as medical advice. Anyone wishing to actively use

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> > information or members' opionins for personal health

> improvement is

> > advised to consult with the qualified health care provider

of

> their

> > choice before attempting to use the information. Membership

on

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> > >

> > >

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[Guest guest]

isn't this interesting. Well I guess this is why Wiley says the

cream is the best way to go. Now, how on earth do we get a GOOD

cream? That may take 1,000 years to find!

> I tried Estrasorb and crashed and burned on it. I had been talked

out of the

> WP during my 7 or 8th cycle. Probably because I came from the

higher dose E

> and went to a low dose. Plus it seemed to go in SO fast. Within

the hour, my

> heart would be racing, sweating, and then I was nauseous and had

headaches.

> I did it for about 2 -3 weeks and then put myself back on the

transdermals.

>

> Liz V.

>

> _____

>

> From: rhythmicliving

[mailto:rhythmicliving ]

> On Behalf Of Valarie

> Sent: Friday, April 29, 2005 8:03 PM

> To: rhythmicliving

> Subject: RE: Re: skin eruptions (Charlotte)

>

>

> There is a commercially available product called Estrasorb. Here

are the

> prescribing instructions:

>

> http://www.fda.gov/cder/foi/label/2003/21371_estrasorb_lbl.pdf

>

> It would take an awfully big bunch to get to an estradiol level of

300 or

> so.

>

> Val

>

> -----Original Message-----

> From: rhythmicliving

> [mailto:rhythmicliving ]On Behalf Of

>

> Hi again. This isn't good. And I can tell you that the other base

> cream I was on from Hickey Pharmacy in NY gave me the same

> dermatitis problems. You mean to tell me that something safer

> hasn't been found YET?

>

>

>

>

>

>

> click here for our webpage http://rhythmicliving.com/

>

> Our sister group for research and high volume

> http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/Rhythmic_Living_Research/

>

> **This group has no pharmacy or commercial affiliations. Any

mention of

> product or a pharmacy is within the scope of that group member's

experience

> and does not represent the view of the list owner. Please check

directly

> with pharmacies for details about their product and policies. Not

everything

> you hear on an e-mail list is the truth even if it is a member's

best effort

> to report their experience which may vary from your own. There are

many

> variables that determine how we feel.***

>

> **The group conversation is informational in nature and is not

intended as

> medical advice. Anyone wishing to actively use this information

or members'

> opionins for personal health improvement is advised to consult

with the

> qualified health care provider of their choice before attempting

to use the

> information. Membership on this list constitutes agreement that

you will not

> consider any of this medical advice. Discuss your decisions with

your

> doctor.**

>

>

>

> _____

>

>