Re: accepting I must not think that

[Guest guest]

I have a question for you. Are you doing ACT to try and get rid of the

thoughts? Be very honest with yourself, because your post sounds alot

like you are. And if you are trying to get rid of the thoughts then

you know what you will get.

If you are not trying to get rid of the thoughts, then why are you

doing ACT?

Thoughts, all thoughts, are just thoughts. Not good, not bad, just

thoughts. So welcome them all for tea, have them spend the night and

make up a special room for them. Let them stay as long as they like,

adjust the heat, walk through with dirty feet, whatever. Meanwhile

just watch the little buggers, no judgements. Just don't ACT like what

they are saying is real, because thoughts aren't real either. Sounds

like they are there for a while so just be patient with them, and love

them like you would a hurt child.

All the while you continue to move forward in a values based

direction. Simple, not easy.

Greg

>

> Hello all,

> 10 years ago I tenaciously programmed my Mind to constantly create

imagery

> of people depreciating (i.e. thinking ill of) me. Pretty stoopid in

> retrospect but it seemed the right thing to do at the time.

>

> 5 years later I learned CBT and REBT and started challenging these

thoughts.

> However, my challenge soon became as problematic as the automatic

thoughts

> of people depreciating me. This is in accordance with ACT - the

harder you

> try to stop/avoid unpleasant thoughts, the deeper you dig. And boy did I

> dig. I must have been inches from the Earth's core I dug so deep.

>

> So as I now stand, I have the following " automatic " pair of thoughts

100s of

> times a day:

> Doe will think I'm useless --> I must not think that (because

it's an

> unhealthy/unrealistic thought)

>

> And the secondary thought happens so quickly I don't even see it

happening

> and I buy it. And then I feel pretty grim.

>

> Anyway, my question (which ostensibly sounds like more digging,

depending on

> how you look at it!) is - how do I best go about defusing this pair of

> automatic thoughts? I have done quite a bit of work visualizing the

> thoughts (soliders on parade) and accepting the thoughts (Joe the

Bum, Pick

> up the Keys) however their " automaticness " remains as does their

> purchase-ability. Does ACT state which thought is best to welcome

in for a

> nice cup of tea, despite its rank, malignant odours?

>

> Or is it simply the fact that my Mind's been " doing " these thoughts for

> years and it will take a long time for it to relinquish its grip?

And that

> my thirsty impatience is leading me to pick up that bloody shovel again?

>

> Pete

>

[Guest guest]

Hi Pete, I think a very importan question is, can you allow yourself

just having those thoughts?. Can you just give permission to yourself

for having those thoughts? Have you try to allow yourself having the

thought "I am useless" and at the same time enjoy the

things that are PRESENT in your enviroment in that moment?. e.g., a

smell, the sound of the birds, Can you work just on NOTICING, just

noticing how being with your thought, "I am useless" separate you from

the beauty of what you have in front of you?. Can you work on noticing

how concentrating only in ONE PART of your present enviroment "I am

useless" isolate you from OTHER PARTS of your PRESENT?.

Best.

Serafín.

Kingswell escribió:

Hello all,

10 years ago I tenaciously programmed my Mind to constantly create

imagery of people depreciating (i.e. thinking ill of) me. Pretty

stoopid in retrospect but it seemed the right thing to do at the time.

5 years later I learned CBT and REBT and started challenging these

thoughts. However, my challenge soon became as problematic as the

automatic thoughts of people depreciating me. This is in accordance

with ACT - the harder you try to stop/avoid unpleasant thoughts, the

deeper you dig. And boy did I dig. I must have been inches from the

Earth's core I dug so deep.

So as I now stand, I have the following "automatic" pair of thoughts

100s of times a day:

Doe will think I'm useless --> I must not think that (because

it's an unhealthy/unrealistic thought)

And the secondary thought happens so quickly I don't even see it

happening and I buy it. And then I feel pretty grim.

Anyway, my question (which ostensibly sounds like more digging,

depending on how you look at it!) is - how do I best go about defusing

this pair of automatic thoughts? I have done quite a bit of work

visualizing the thoughts (soliders on parade) and accepting the

thoughts (Joe the Bum, Pick up the Keys) however their "automaticness"

remains as does their purchase-ability. Does ACT state which thought

is best to welcome in for a nice cup of tea, despite its rank,

malignant odours?

Or is it simply the fact that my Mind's been "doing" these thoughts for

years and it will take a long time for it to relinquish its grip? And

that my thirsty impatience is leading me to pick up that bloody shovel

again?

Pete

[Guest guest]

Hi Greg,

I have a question for you. Are you doing ACT to try and get rid of the

thoughts? Be very honest with yourself, because your post sounds alot

like you are. And if you are trying to get rid of the thoughts then

you know what you will get. depends on how you define " try and get rid of the thoughts " . I know for sure that I don't want to _try_ to get rid of the thoughts. However it would be nice if they went away. Two different things - passive desire (

e.g. I'd like to be a great soccer player) and actively trying (e.g. practicing every day for hours).

If you are not trying to get rid of the thoughts, then why are you

doing ACT? Again, most people on this boad would like their thoughts to go away but that doesn't mean that they're _trying_ to get rid of them. I think! =o]

Thoughts, all thoughts, are just thoughts. Not good, not bad, just

thoughts. So welcome them all for tea, ....Yes I'm with you there, I grasp that. However you're speaking from a perfectly impassive observer perspective, which I am unable to do in the face of the pair of thoughts I reported. Hence my post.

Cheers,Pete

I have a question for you. Are you doing ACT to try and get rid of the

thoughts? Be very honest with yourself, because your post sounds alot

like you are. And if you are trying to get rid of the thoughts then

you know what you will get.

If you are not trying to get rid of the thoughts, then why are you

doing ACT?

Thoughts, all thoughts, are just thoughts. Not good, not bad, just

thoughts. So welcome them all for tea, have them spend the night and

make up a special room for them. Let them stay as long as they like,

adjust the heat, walk through with dirty feet, whatever. Meanwhile

just watch the little buggers, no judgements. Just don't ACT like what

they are saying is real, because thoughts aren't real either. Sounds

like they are there for a while so just be patient with them, and love

them like you would a hurt child.

All the while you continue to move forward in a values based

direction. Simple, not easy.

Greg

>

> Hello all,

> 10 years ago I tenaciously programmed my Mind to constantly create

imagery

> of people depreciating (i.e. thinking ill of) me. Pretty stoopid in

> retrospect but it seemed the right thing to do at the time.

>

> 5 years later I learned CBT and REBT and started challenging these

thoughts.

> However, my challenge soon became as problematic as the automatic

thoughts

> of people depreciating me. This is in accordance with ACT - the

harder you

> try to stop/avoid unpleasant thoughts, the deeper you dig. And boy did I

> dig. I must have been inches from the Earth's core I dug so deep.

>

> So as I now stand, I have the following " automatic " pair of thoughts

100s of

> times a day:

> Doe will think I'm useless --> I must not think that (because

it's an

> unhealthy/unrealistic thought)

>

> And the secondary thought happens so quickly I don't even see it

happening

> and I buy it. And then I feel pretty grim.

>

> Anyway, my question (which ostensibly sounds like more digging,

depending on

> how you look at it!) is - how do I best go about defusing this pair of

> automatic thoughts? I have done quite a bit of work visualizing the

> thoughts (soliders on parade) and accepting the thoughts (Joe the

Bum, Pick

> up the Keys) however their " automaticness " remains as does their

> purchase-ability. Does ACT state which thought is best to welcome

in for a

> nice cup of tea, despite its rank, malignant odours?

>

> Or is it simply the fact that my Mind's been " doing " these thoughts for

> years and it will take a long time for it to relinquish its grip?

And that

> my thirsty impatience is leading me to pick up that bloody shovel again?

>

> Pete

>

[Guest guest]

Hi Serafin,I don't particularly have a problem with the " I am useless " element, I can have that thought no problem. The greater distress I experience is from the " I must not think that " secondary thought. That one causes me much anxiety. It's so fast I don't even see it coming before my skin is itching with anxiety and my chest is tight.

Pete

Hi Pete, I think a very importan question is, can you allow yourself

just having those thoughts?. Can you just give permission to yourself

for having those thoughts? Have you try to allow yourself having the

thought " I am useless " and at the same time enjoy the

things that are PRESENT in your enviroment in that moment?. e.g., a

smell, the sound of the birds, Can you work just on NOTICING, just

noticing how being with your thought, " I am useless " separate you from

the beauty of what you have in front of you?. Can you work on noticing

how concentrating only in ONE PART of your present enviroment " I am

useless " isolate you from OTHER PARTS of your PRESENT?.

Best.

Serafín.

Kingswell escribió:

Hello all,

10 years ago I tenaciously programmed my Mind to constantly create

imagery of people depreciating (i.e. thinking ill of) me. Pretty

stoopid in retrospect but it seemed the right thing to do at the time.

5 years later I learned CBT and REBT and started challenging these

thoughts. However, my challenge soon became as problematic as the

automatic thoughts of people depreciating me. This is in accordance

with ACT - the harder you try to stop/avoid unpleasant thoughts, the

deeper you dig. And boy did I dig. I must have been inches from the

Earth's core I dug so deep.

So as I now stand, I have the following " automatic " pair of thoughts

100s of times a day:

Doe will think I'm useless --> I must not think that (because

it's an unhealthy/unrealistic thought)

And the secondary thought happens so quickly I don't even see it

happening and I buy it. And then I feel pretty grim.

Anyway, my question (which ostensibly sounds like more digging,

depending on how you look at it!) is - how do I best go about defusing

this pair of automatic thoughts? I have done quite a bit of work

visualizing the thoughts (soliders on parade) and accepting the

thoughts (Joe the Bum, Pick up the Keys) however their " automaticness "

remains as does their purchase-ability. Does ACT state which thought

is best to welcome in for a nice cup of tea, despite its rank,

malignant odours?

Or is it simply the fact that my Mind's been " doing " these thoughts for

years and it will take a long time for it to relinquish its grip? And

that my thirsty impatience is leading me to pick up that bloody shovel

again?

Pete

[Guest guest]

OK ready to try something silly?

Take a piece of paper and write down the two thoughts. Fill the whole

piece of paper with these two thoughts, when one side is full turn it

over and do the same on the other side. Fill it full of these

thoughts. Once the paper is full, sit at the table and put the paper

in front of you. Now take 3 to 5 minutes and sit there without

defending yourself and let the paper (thoughts) attack you, just let

it do it's worst. If it jumps up and cuts you just let it do it. Those

are bad thoughts so they are bound to really do some damage. Once the

3 to 5 minutes are up, pick up the thoughts and give them a big hug.

Then take them and watch some TV with them, or read a book to them,

take them for a walk. Don't worry if it feels silly or stupid, just do

it. When it's time for bed take them with you, tell them goodnight and

put them under you pillow or on your nightstand so they can be with

you. Tell them that if they want to hurt you to go ahead you won't

fight them. Say it outloud if you have to. Take them to work with you.

Take them everywhere. They belong to you, treat them kindly, and don't

forget to hug them once in awhile.

Like Steve says " If you always do what you've always done, then you're

always going to get what you always got. " Try something silly.

Greg

> > >

> > > Hello all,

> > > 10 years ago I tenaciously programmed my Mind to constantly create

> > imagery

> > > of people depreciating (i.e. thinking ill of) me. Pretty stoopid in

> > > retrospect but it seemed the right thing to do at the time.

> > >

> > > 5 years later I learned CBT and REBT and started challenging these

> > thoughts.

> > > However, my challenge soon became as problematic as the automatic

> > thoughts

> > > of people depreciating me. This is in accordance with ACT - the

> > harder you

> > > try to stop/avoid unpleasant thoughts, the deeper you dig. And

boy did I

> > > dig. I must have been inches from the Earth's core I dug so deep.

> > >

> > > So as I now stand, I have the following " automatic " pair of thoughts

> > 100s of

> > > times a day:

> > > Doe will think I'm useless --> I must not think that (because

> > it's an

> > > unhealthy/unrealistic thought)

> > >

> > > And the secondary thought happens so quickly I don't even see it

> > happening

> > > and I buy it. And then I feel pretty grim.

> > >

> > > Anyway, my question (which ostensibly sounds like more digging,

> > depending on

> > > how you look at it!) is - how do I best go about defusing this

pair of

> > > automatic thoughts? I have done quite a bit of work visualizing the

> > > thoughts (soliders on parade) and accepting the thoughts (Joe the

> > Bum, Pick

> > > up the Keys) however their " automaticness " remains as does their

> > > purchase-ability. Does ACT state which thought is best to welcome

> > in for a

> > > nice cup of tea, despite its rank, malignant odours?

> > >

> > > Or is it simply the fact that my Mind's been " doing " these

thoughts for

> > > years and it will take a long time for it to relinquish its grip?

> > And that

> > > my thirsty impatience is leading me to pick up that bloody

shovel again?

> > >

> > > Pete

> > >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

[Guest guest]

Howdy, I just gotta check in with you all. Flawedplan here, I run a board on mental health reform. Most of us have severe and persistent mental illness and a personality disorder or three. The board is gonzo in style and I'm kind of a snob. My orientation is Gestalt, so ACT is good stuff in my view, mostly. I have a thread up on ACT, and have been reading these emails and have referred to two of them on the board when talking to people in crises. So I just want to let you know, I did not use any names or identifying markers, and paraphrased what I read, always attributing the source as the ACT site or email group. It dawned on me today that this might be going out of bounds and want to check in and disclose that I am using what I learn here, w/out violating confidentiality and with the goal of steering the conversant to studying ACT themself. Anyone can join this group, and I say that, it's out there and I

recommend it. There is much I read in the emails like this piece, Try Something Silly, that are so pertinent to the struggles I address, are these being compiled on a blog or some public linkable website? If not, how much can I take from it and still be within bounds? If none, it's cool, just wanted to check in and be upfront, in case these are reasonable qualms. At any rate, I appreciate the work you all are doing, it's the closest thing to a validation of my own (anti-CBT) path, and that's hard to come by out there... Cheers. Robin Plan gregpeery wrote: OK ready to try something silly? Take a piece of paper and write down the two thoughts. Fill the whole piece of paper with these two thoughts, when one side is full turn

it over and do the same on the other side. Fill it full of these thoughts. Once the paper is full, sit at the table and put the paper in front of you. Now take 3 to 5 minutes and sit there without defending yourself and let the paper (thoughts) attack you, just let it do it's worst. If it jumps up and cuts you just let it do it. Those are bad thoughts so they are bound to really do some damage. Once the 3 to 5 minutes are up, pick up the thoughts and give them a big hug. Then take them and watch some TV with them, or read a book to them, take them for a walk. Don't worry if it feels silly or stupid, just do it. When it's time for bed take them with you, tell them goodnight and put them under you pillow or on your nightstand so they can be with you. Tell them that if they want to hurt you to go ahead you won't fight them. Say it outloud if you have to. Take them to work with you. Take them everywhere.

They belong to you, treat them kindly, and don't forget to hug them once in awhile. Like Steve says "If you always do what you've always done, then you're always going to get what you always got." Try something silly. Greg http://p214.ezboard.com/bourcommoncondition97317

[Guest guest]

Hi Pete,

I am curious to know how you got on with the yellow jeep exercise on

p24, whether you have major problem with 'I must not think that'/'dont

think that' thoughts or if its just in the context with your other

thought that you think/feel you get into real problems.

I really love gregs suggestions, and am wondering if I can try and hug

my pain head......

J

>

> OK ready to try something silly?

>

> Take a piece of paper and write down the two thoughts. Fill the whole

> piece of paper with these two thoughts, when one side is full turn it

> over and do the same on the other side. Fill it full of these

> thoughts. Once the paper is full, sit at the table and put the paper

> in front of you. Now take 3 to 5 minutes and sit there without

> defending yourself and let the paper (thoughts) attack you, just let

> it do it's worst. If it jumps up and cuts you just let it do it. Those

> are bad thoughts so they are bound to really do some damage. Once the

> 3 to 5 minutes are up, pick up the thoughts and give them a big hug.

> Then take them and watch some TV with them, or read a book to them,

> take them for a walk. Don't worry if it feels silly or stupid, just do

> it. When it's time for bed take them with you, tell them goodnight and

> put them under you pillow or on your nightstand so they can be with

> you. Tell them that if they want to hurt you to go ahead you won't

> fight them. Say it outloud if you have to. Take them to work with you.

> Take them everywhere. They belong to you, treat them kindly, and don't

> forget to hug them once in awhile.

>

> Like Steve says " If you always do what you've always done, then you're

> always going to get what you always got. " Try something silly.

>

> Greg

>

> > > > So as I now stand, I have the following " automatic " pair of

thoughts

> > > 100s of

> > > > times a day:

> > > > Doe will think I'm useless --> I must not think that (because

> > > it's an

> > > > unhealthy/unrealistic thought)

> > > >

> > > > And the secondary thought happens so quickly I don't even see it

> > > happening

> > > > and I buy it. And then I feel pretty grim.

<snip>

> > > > Pete

[Guest guest]

Here we are kindred minds again. I related to your post much more than anyone

else's in

the entire listserv. My thoughts are so automatic I can't decipher them, so how

can I not

buy them?

My therapist says that i don't need to figure everything out in order to not buy

thoughts,

but i kind of do need to figure them out or I won't be aware of the distinctive

thoughts. a

lot of times i really find certain things unacceptable-so how to accept them?

and i also

hear people saying that ACT 'works' but avoidance doesn't. Well, what does'work

mean?

I am pretty angry right now (in life-not this minute) and I have almost written

the listserv

many times, but held back bc i think my mind is rejecting the ACT stuff (out of

fear of lack

of control) so i didn't want to give my mind control-and write the post, but i

might soon.

Thanks,

D

> > >

> > > Hello all,

> > > 10 years ago I tenaciously programmed my Mind to constantly create

> > imagery

> > > of people depreciating (i.e. thinking ill of) me. Pretty stoopid in

> > > retrospect but it seemed the right thing to do at the time.

> > >

> > > 5 years later I learned CBT and REBT and started challenging these

> > thoughts.

> > > However, my challenge soon became as problematic as the automatic

> > thoughts

> > > of people depreciating me. This is in accordance with ACT - the

> > harder you

> > > try to stop/avoid unpleasant thoughts, the deeper you dig. And boy did I

> > > dig. I must have been inches from the Earth's core I dug so deep.

> > >

> > > So as I now stand, I have the following " automatic " pair of thoughts

> > 100s of

> > > times a day:

> > > Doe will think I'm useless --> I must not think that (because

> > it's an

> > > unhealthy/unrealistic thought)

> > >

> > > And the secondary thought happens so quickly I don't even see it

> > happening

> > > and I buy it. And then I feel pretty grim.

> > >

> > > Anyway, my question (which ostensibly sounds like more digging,

> > depending on

> > > how you look at it!) is - how do I best go about defusing this pair of

> > > automatic thoughts? I have done quite a bit of work visualizing the

> > > thoughts (soliders on parade) and accepting the thoughts (Joe the

> > Bum, Pick

> > > up the Keys) however their " automaticness " remains as does their

> > > purchase-ability. Does ACT state which thought is best to welcome

> > in for a

> > > nice cup of tea, despite its rank, malignant odours?

> > >

> > > Or is it simply the fact that my Mind's been " doing " these thoughts for

> > > years and it will take a long time for it to relinquish its grip?

> > And that

> > > my thirsty impatience is leading me to pick up that bloody shovel again?

> > >

> > > Pete

> > >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

[Guest guest]

This is where the mindful sitting comes in. Learning how to just sit

and watch the thoughts. And I do mean Learning. Like learning any

thing that is difficult it takes time and practice. I do understand

the automatic thoughts coming so fast and furious that you think you

are going crazy. I had and still do have them. I still get sucked

into them. I still have a lot of practice, and what I am realizing

is that when I find myself getting sucked in I can usually defuse

and then choose to follow the thoughts at a distance. I am learning

to be a little distant from them and just watch where they are

going. This is very helpful because they have taken me places I have

never been before, because I have never allowed them to go to those

places. I always stopped them before they got to the place that

started to show how vulnerable I am. Am I always able to do this.

NO. But slowly I am learning how.

I had a very difficult time at first with the meditation. I fought

it. I had very bad misconsived judgements about meditation. Once I

understood that meditation is just learning how to sit and do

nothing, to just be, without accomplishing anything, it clicked. I

have always had to be doing something. Now I practice doing nothing,

and by doing that, I am learning to just observe sensations in my

body, and thoughts in my head.

Once you start learning how to just observe the thoughts as thoughts

and nothing more, then it won't matter what the content is. They are

just thoughts. They are not real. You cannot touch them. You cannot

catch them and show them to people or even yourself. You can write

them out, but even then those are not thoughts. Those are words you

wrote on piece of paper. It's only our misguided belief that

thoughts are real that get us into trouble.

As for the word work. It is just a word also. Anyway the point to

ACT really isn't to have it work. That implies that you are doing

something or it is doing something. The object is not to do anything

but live a value driven life. So I guess if someone is finally

living a life they want, and still having all the terrible thoughts

then I suppose it does work. What ever that means.

One more thing if you are so terribly angry I would suggest getting

the new book, ACT on life, not on anger. I have it and it is

definatly worth the read.

Greg

> > > >

> > > > Hello all,

> > > > 10 years ago I tenaciously programmed my Mind to constantly

create

> > > imagery

> > > > of people depreciating (i.e. thinking ill of) me. Pretty

stoopid in

> > > > retrospect but it seemed the right thing to do at the time.

> > > >

> > > > 5 years later I learned CBT and REBT and started challenging

these

> > > thoughts.

> > > > However, my challenge soon became as problematic as the

automatic

> > > thoughts

> > > > of people depreciating me. This is in accordance with ACT -

the

> > > harder you

> > > > try to stop/avoid unpleasant thoughts, the deeper you dig.

And boy did I

> > > > dig. I must have been inches from the Earth's core I dug so

deep.

> > > >

> > > > So as I now stand, I have the following " automatic " pair of

thoughts

> > > 100s of

> > > > times a day:

> > > > Doe will think I'm useless --> I must not think that

(because

> > > it's an

> > > > unhealthy/unrealistic thought)

> > > >

> > > > And the secondary thought happens so quickly I don't even

see it

> > > happening

> > > > and I buy it. And then I feel pretty grim.

> > > >

> > > > Anyway, my question (which ostensibly sounds like more

digging,

> > > depending on

> > > > how you look at it!) is - how do I best go about defusing

this pair of

> > > > automatic thoughts? I have done quite a bit of work

visualizing the

> > > > thoughts (soliders on parade) and accepting the thoughts

(Joe the

> > > Bum, Pick

> > > > up the Keys) however their " automaticness " remains as does

their

> > > > purchase-ability. Does ACT state which thought is best to

welcome

> > > in for a

> > > > nice cup of tea, despite its rank, malignant odours?

> > > >

> > > > Or is it simply the fact that my Mind's been " doing " these

thoughts for

> > > > years and it will take a long time for it to relinquish its

grip?

> > > And that

> > > > my thirsty impatience is leading me to pick up that bloody

shovel again?

> > > >

> > > > Pete

> > > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

[Guest guest]

J,

I haven't bought the " Get out of your mind... " book so I don't know

that exercise. Greg's suggestion is a good one but I don't think it's

quite what I need.

I don't have a particular issue with " I must not think that " , I'm

pretty sure I can accept it. It's just so automatic and intense I

barely see it coming.

What I wouldn't want to do is to horrorize " I must not think that " so

that I program " I must not think that " about " I must not think that " =o]

pete

> >

> > OK ready to try something silly?

> >

> > Take a piece of paper and write down the two thoughts. Fill the whole

> > piece of paper with these two thoughts, when one side is full turn it

> > over and do the same on the other side. Fill it full of these

> > thoughts. Once the paper is full, sit at the table and put the paper

> > in front of you. Now take 3 to 5 minutes and sit there without

> > defending yourself and let the paper (thoughts) attack you, just let

> > it do it's worst. If it jumps up and cuts you just let it do it. Those

> > are bad thoughts so they are bound to really do some damage. Once the

> > 3 to 5 minutes are up, pick up the thoughts and give them a big hug.

> > Then take them and watch some TV with them, or read a book to them,

> > take them for a walk. Don't worry if it feels silly or stupid, just do

> > it. When it's time for bed take them with you, tell them goodnight and

> > put them under you pillow or on your nightstand so they can be with

> > you. Tell them that if they want to hurt you to go ahead you won't

> > fight them. Say it outloud if you have to. Take them to work with you.

> > Take them everywhere. They belong to you, treat them kindly, and don't

> > forget to hug them once in awhile.

> >

> > Like Steve says " If you always do what you've always done, then you're

> > always going to get what you always got. " Try something silly.

> >

> > Greg

> >

>

> > > > > So as I now stand, I have the following " automatic " pair of

> thoughts

> > > > 100s of

> > > > > times a day:

> > > > > Doe will think I'm useless --> I must not think that

(because

> > > > it's an

> > > > > unhealthy/unrealistic thought)

> > > > >

> > > > > And the secondary thought happens so quickly I don't even see it

> > > > happening

> > > > > and I buy it. And then I feel pretty grim.

> <snip>

> > > > > Pete

>

[Guest guest]

> One more thing if you are so terribly angry I would suggest getting

> the new book, ACT on life, not on anger. I have it and it is

> definatly worth the read.

>

> Greg

Please tell me the full title of this new book.

M

[Guest guest]

Act on Life Not on Anger: The

New Acceptance & Commitment Therapy Guide to Problem Anger

by Georg H. Eifert, McKay, P.

Forsyth, and C. (Paperback

- Mar 3, 2006)

Books: See all 843 items

From: ACT_for_the_Public [mailto:ACT_for_the_Public ] On Behalf Of Margie (Pettis)

Sent: Monday, May 29, 2006 5:22 PM

To: ACT_for_the_Public

Subject: Re:

accepting " I must not think that "

> One more thing if you are so terribly angry I would suggest getting

> the new book, ACT on life, not on anger. I have it and it is

> definatly worth the read.

>

> Greg

Please tell me the full title of this new book.

M