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Nope! never been there:) sorry

blakelyt@... wrote:

> , You don't happened to have grown up in Kingston, Okla. and your

> father is a Baptist minister? Let me know.

> Tooter

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can you tell us the diet and supps you are on that have made you feel

better...

i get my wheel chair tomorrow...its the chair or i don't do Christmas

shopping this year. i was in one a few years back for a brief time so i am

hoping for only a short time again.

thanks

robin

hello

hello,

I just found this list the other day and , im quite excited:) I have

had FMS for

about 13 years that has steadily gotten worse over the years. Over the

last year its been to the point where I am none functional and in

constant pain, until this week.... Last week i had my fill and

searched the internet hoping to find at least something to ease some of

my stomach problems and came across some sites on CANDIDA. Its been 4

days now since i started the diet and supplements, I feel like i am

apart of the world again. This is truly amazing to me! I am still

trying to work out staying on the diet part but at last there is hope,

more than i ever could have thought:)

Im looking forward to getting to know you all and learning a few

tips:)

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Have you ever tried to imagine a world with no hypothetical situations?

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Robin,

I sure know how you feel about the chair! i had to use one this summer just

to keep up with my family. Its hard to reason with at times, my heart is with

you:)

The supplements i take are Acidophilus 3 x a day(it helps build back up the

healthy bacteria), Garlic pills (KYOLIC brand, garlic has anti-fungal

properties) Vitamin C, a good yeast and wheat free daily vitamin,

calcium & magnesiun (helps with pms) B-complex and Echenicia to help build back

up the immune system.

The diet is fairly simple, Whole foods and grains, meat, veggies and avoid

foods like bread with yeast in it.

There are alot of different " diets " and supplements out there for candida.

Everybody is different so some work better than for others. I just tried to

find one that i was going to be more likely to follow easily. My husband who

doesn't care as much for herbal remedies just got a prescription from his

doctor that kills body yeast infections, but he is still on the diet cuz im

the one that cooks! lol

hope it helps you some:)

r wrote:

> can you tell us the diet and supps you are on that have made you feel

> better...

> i get my wheel chair tomorrow...its the chair or i don't do Christmas

> shopping this year. i was in one a few years back for a brief time so i am

> hoping for only a short time again.

>

> thanks

> robin

> hello

>

> hello,

> I just found this list the other day and , im quite excited:) I have

> had FMS for

> about 13 years that has steadily gotten worse over the years. Over the

> last year its been to the point where I am none functional and in

> constant pain, until this week.... Last week i had my fill and

> searched the internet hoping to find at least something to ease some of

> my stomach problems and came across some sites on CANDIDA. Its been 4

> days now since i started the diet and supplements, I feel like i am

> apart of the world again. This is truly amazing to me! I am still

> trying to work out staying on the diet part but at last there is hope,

> more than i ever could have thought:)

> Im looking forward to getting to know you all and learning a few

> tips:)

>

>

>

> --

> Have you ever tried to imagine a world with no hypothetical situations?

>

> Fry

> http://www.dragonshallow.com

>

>

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sparrow@... writes: << can you tell us the diet and supps you are

on that have made you feel better... >>

My heart goes out to you. Some of the supps I take are because I was

tested and found lacking. Others I take because I can tell when I stop taking

them. Please bear in mind that we are all different. However, most of us with

fibro can benefit from the following: Antioxidants such as vitamins A (beta

carotene), C, E; zinc; grapeseed extract; B-complex with extra B6 & B12;

Minerals such as magnesium, calcium, chromium, manganese; Others including

Co-Q10, essential fatty acids, amino acids. The green supplements are also

good such as Barley Green and blue green algae.

Be sure to eat a wide variety of fresh fruits and vegetables especially

green vegetables. Avoid all processed foods. A good rule of thumb is " if it's

in a box or can don't eat it. "

The key is to find the foods, chemicals and other substances that bother

you and avoid those. (Many sensitivities are " hidden " and the best method of

finding these is through testing.) If we eat strawberries and break out in 15

minutes we know we're allergic to strawberries. However, if we eat something

and 2-3 days later have pain, fatigue, headaches, digestive disorders, etc.,

we normally do not make the connection.

Please see my letter to Nettie in Chicago -- Digest Number 356 on this

list. If you don't receive that letter, please let me know and I will send

more info.

Blessings, hope & joy,

Keeny, Executive Director

Fibromyalgia Coalition International

www.fibrocoalition.org

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Hi Tonya,

I have heard of the Broda Test, I have Epstein-Bar Virus titers and

fibromyalgia that cause me to have a low grade fever. Fibromyalgia alone

could cause the fever to make ours seem normal. This is why when I checked

into the thyroid problem years ago, thyroid did not show up. Along with the

blood tests always coming back normal (by outdated norms) My whole problem

was hidden.

My website is Divine Rights or FAITHLORDS.com. I was informed that the link

on my site for MedsMex.com was not working. Here is the URL where I got my

medicine without a RX is <A HREF= " http://www.medsmex.com/index.htm " >MedsMex.com:

Your Online Source of Quality

Discounted Medications</A>.

So far I have not had my heart speed up from Levoxyl. I have heard that

Synthroid causes this problem. Maybe some meds work better with our

different chemistries.

Take care,

~Monnie

In a message dated 6/25/2001 10:17:37 PM Eastern Daylight Time,

DWigg54545@... writes:

> Hi,

> Thanks for your post. Have you heard of the Broda Test where you

> can find out through your temp if your thyroid is acting up. A lot of

> holistic doctors go for this test. I am not for the blood test either. I am

> for it only if it shows quickly but sometimes that does not happen. What is

> your website? I think I tried to go to it but it did not come

> up,thanks........Tonya

>

> P.S. Glad to hear that you are feeling better. I was wandering though, did

> they thyroid med ever speed your heart rate up?

>

>

>

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And endeavors to live the life imagined,

He will meet with success unexpected in common hours. "

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i am wondering why so many of us have found that the current thyroid tests

are so incorrect and that the medical community at large will not fix the

problem. as i see it , if you are tested daily for a month, the tests will

reveal the variations in the thyroid levels. i believe that testing just

once a year is a total waste for most of us and inconclusive at the least.

robin

Hello

Hello,

My name is Monnie and I have been ill with Hashimoto's Auto Immune

thyroid disease all of my life. I did not find this out until June 7 of

this

year. Since then I have been on Thyroid medicine only a couple of weeks, I

have gotten a life back that I have never had. I have been properly

diagnosed with MS, Fibromyalgia, Chronic Fatigue, Epstein-Bar Virus, Celiacs

Disease, Bladder and Kidney problems, Eye problems, Chronic headaches,

Asthma

etc. Also multiple allergies that have resulted many times in Anaphylactic

Shock from eating soy, wheat, gluten, peanut butter etc. All along the root

problem for these diseases was my thyroid. I am very upset that I had to be

sick for so long before my TSH levels were finally high enough to reveal to

the medical world my real problem. Because most lab reports are out dated

in

their test score normals, many like me, will still suffer until doctors and

patients are made aware of this extreme problem.

It is my desire to help others to be informed of these misdiagnosed problems

and find ways to receive help before they have gone all of their life

without

knowing what their problems really are. I am 54 years old and I would

enjoying seeing others have a way to get blood work in these areas before

they are my age.

Many people cannot afford to go to a physician and receive tests, let alone

have a way to obtain their medications.

Many who do not have medical insurance need alternate places to receive free

assistance for medicines, and legal ways to purchase medication at discount

prices. I have found a few helpful Medication assistance programs. Including

Health Check at where I can get blood tests for my TSH for only $27.00

without a doctor. As many of you know, Shoman, Thyroid Guide at

About.com is doing a great work in this area. She has an article on Health

Check. As many of you know, Shoman at About.com is doing a great work

in

this area. If you have not read this yet, she has this article on Health

Check H<A HREF= " http://thyroid.about.com/library/weekly/aa062101a.htm " >ow to

Get Your Thyroid Tested Without a Doctor</A> <A

HREF= " http://thyroid.about.com/gi/dynamic/offsite.htm?site=http://www.health

checkusa.com " >

http://www.healthcheckusa.com</A>

I also found a place where I can get my thyroid medicine (without a

prescription) at 30 to 50% cheaper that here in the US. They take Pay Pal

and

deliver it to your door. I am getting 3 bottles, 50 pills each of Levoxyl

for

only $10.95 per bottle. My whole bill came to $37.85. I signed up for

their

associate program and added their banner to my Web site.

As I am writing, I am putting some of this post onto my website:)

I know for me all of these autoimmune deficiencies are related to thyroid.

I

believe that others may have these same illness connections.

Thank you for these groups who understand of these problems and for allowing

me to air my frustrations.

~Monnie

________________________________________________________

" If one advances confidently in the direction of his dreams,

And endeavors to live the life imagined,

He will meet with success unexpected in common hours. "

-Thoreau

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In a message dated 6/27/2001 10:56:40 AM Eastern Daylight Time,

sparrow@... writes:

> i am wondering why so many of us have found that the current thyroid tests

> are so incorrect and that the medical community at large will not fix the

> problem. as i see it , if you are tested daily for a month, the tests will

> reveal the variations in the thyroid levels. i believe that testing just

> once a year is a total waste for most of us and inconclusive at the least.

> robin

>

I wonder these same things. The following article that I am forwarding from

another group sounds a bit conspiracy theory. I do not doubt that it is true.

It seems that governments want a bit of urban renewal at our expense:) ~Monnie

Subj: POPULATION WARS

Date: 6/27/2001 3:55:47 AM Eastern Daylight Time

From: dusan@... (A. A.)

Reply-to: <A HREF= " mailto:mscured " >mscured </A>

To: cancercured , aidscured ,

mscured

POPULATION WARS

http://www.credence.org/

A Comparison of First and

Third World Health Agendas

“It creates a very disagreeable impression to see people who are white,

European, or of European origin, trying to sow the seeds of sterility in

populations that are about to escape from under their domination.†– Alfred

Sauvy in “Le faux probleme de la population mondiale†(1949)

In this report we will examine the reasons why today’s global and domestic

medical, chemical and political infrastructures are perversely acting to

shorten lives rather than extend them. This is some allegation, which is

why I have devoted some time to analyse the important issues involved.

Firstly, let’s discuss a little background to some of the forces operating

in global healthcare today.

For many years I have studied strategic political and economic trends of

governments and learned how these trends interact to dictate policy

initiatives that affect us at the citizen level. On the street, few sane

people would argue that a long, healthy and happy life is the most

desirable. We ordinary decent citizens would therefore expect our

politicians, corporations and medical establishment to be working

tirelessly day and night to bring about this happy state of affairs for as

many of us as possible. Sadly, as we shall see, this is almost the complete

opposite of what is in fact occurring. More tragically, many in the upper

echelons of power (power ironically given to them by their constituents)

know their measures are deliberately shortening the lives of their voters,

and yet these powerful ones are deliberately signing off on the continuing

slaughter of their own citizenry and even taking measures to ensure

continuance of same. Why? It might serve us to discover whether these

startling allegations are true at all.

Governments, healthcare officials and drug companies are quick to advise

the people that ‘medicine has made fabulous strides forward in the 20th

Century, resulting in people living healthier and longer lives.’ We often

hear from cancer charities about the ‘amazing progress’ being made in

defeating cancer. HIV-AIDS too is being battled with success, we are

repeatedly told, with AZT and other AIDS drugs, known as protease

inhibitors, able to hold the fearsome HIV at bay. Currently, we learn from

the news, the US government, the World Health Organization (WHO) and United

Nations (UN) are working with drug companies to make these highly expensive

drugs affordable to African nations, so these chemicals can bring much

needed and life-saving relief to their beleaguered, suffering citizens.

We hear about how government works day and night to pass regulations that

will make our environment safer for us and our children to live in. We have

organisations in America such as the US Food & Drug Administration (FDA),

the American Medical Association (AMA), the Environmental Protection Agency

(EPA), the National Institutes of Health (NIH) and the Centers for Disease

Control (CDC) all beavering away to ensure that no harm befalls us through

the food provided for us, the medicine or the water we are given to consume.

In the UK, we have a similar group of agencies watching out for us. The

British public rest assured that the Medicines Control Agency (MCA), the

Environment Agency, the British Medical Association (BMA) and the General

Medical Council are overseeing the condition of the nation’s health day and

night. And elsewhere in the world, under the auspices of the United

Nations, we are fortunate to have the World Health Organization and its

myriad sub-divisions caring for the health and well-being of less developed

countries (LDCs), who haven’t yet the money or the technical expertise to

set up similar watchdog agencies for themselves.

What organisation. Thank God for 21st Century healthcare! What a relief

that someone out there is watching over the planet.

Sad to say, everything mentioned in the above two paragraphs, with the

exception of AIDS drugs being expensive, is a lie and the complete opposite

of what is happening. In reality, as we shall see, these health agencies

have been in possession of life-saving information for decades about cancer

and heart disease, and have chosen not to use it. They have been in

possession of life-saving information regarding HIV-AIDS, and have chosen

to ignore it. They have been in possession of life-saving information

concerning dangerous environmental contaminants and poisons used in

everyday foods, water and products we use, but have chosen not only NOT to

curtail their use and warn the public, but deliberately to promote their

use, misleading the public about the dangers and ensuring their continued

production.

And what about the massive aid the West is handing over to the developing

nations? Surely that is making all the difference? Unfortunately once

again, the exact opposite is happening. Most have no idea that the money

extended to Third World nations in a supposedly benevolent fashion is

always only given with the proviso that the receiving nation will agree to

stringent population control and economic measures designed and formulated

by the West.[17] The main cast of characters here are the World Bank, the

UN, Western intelligence agencies, the IMF and certain Non-Governmental

Organisations (NGOs) who are responsible for collating statistics, crafting

the agendas, issuing and disbursing the funds, and implementing their

stringent control policies. It has also been these loans for ‘development

and mechanisation’, coupled with the forcing of modern technologies onto

these developing nations which, more than any other factor, have been

responsible for racking up the awesome debt beleaguering most Third World

countries today.

Given the extraordinary budgets currently being ploughed into the

developing nations under the guise of ‘aid programs’, it has been argued

that this same money could have been used to eradicate world hunger and

debt in these countries before now. In other words, instead of handing

billions over to corrupt dictators, who used the money for waging war

against their own and neighbouring populations, or who salted the cash away

in Swiss accounts for their own retirements, why weren’t the funds used to

alleviate the real problems facing these developing countries? Why didn’t

the West supply the target nation with fresh, clean water to alleviate

cholera, parasitic infections and dysentery? Three billion people on this

planet do not have access to safe water and proper sewerage.[18] Why

haven’t proper sanitation facilities been purchased with the West’s cash

and plumbed into every village in Africa to prevent cholera, typhoid and

other diseases? Why weren’t proper agricultural programs installed to help

the poor of these nations provide themselves with a sustainable food chain

to avoid the malnutrition chronically afflicting the Third World today? In

short, why wasn’t the money used to help train these nations to develop

themselves economically so they could henceforth provide for themselves in

these areas?

These are the questions most people ask themselves whenever the issue of

Third World poverty hits the headlines. Most citizens are baffled at the

apparent complexity governments bring to bear on these issues when the

simple answer seems to be staring them in the face: ‘Give a man a fish and

you feed him for a day. Teach a man to fish and you feed him for a

lifetime.’ What’s the complication?

Helping developing nations with food and water and then educating them to

become self-sufficient by assisting them with the development of their

economy makes common sense. These are very achievable goals and in fact

form the central agendas for many a well-intentioned Third World relief

organisation. These organisations however become more than a little baffled

by the strange lack of support they receive from national government or the

UN in pursuing these matters. Why?[19]

The confusion facing the average citizen and aid organisation contemplating

these matters arises because both are unaware that the UN and First World

governments are desperately implementing an altogether different agenda.

Namely, the systematic reduction (eradication) of burgeoning populations

that are being viewed as a strategic threat to the First World. Put more

simply, Western society and its associated power structures have ruled the

world for five hundred years, and naturally wish to continue doing so,

either through the Western-dominated UN or an eventual Western-influenced

global government.

A Central Intelligence Agency document puts the perceived problem this way:

“World population growth is likely to contribute, directly or indirectly,

to domestic upheavals and international conflicts that could adversely

affect US interests. Population growth will also reinforce the

politicisation of international economic relations and intensify the drive

[of less developed countries] for a redistribution of wealth and of

authority in international affairs.†[20]

However, as we shall learn, it was primarily not the growth of Third World

populations that began to destabilise the world demographic picture, but a

marked decline in Western birth-rates, which raised in the minds of

strategists the spectre of the West’s eventual marginalisation by new Third

World economic and military superpowers. The need for the West to act to

secure its continued survival as the world’s dominant cultural and

political power is succinctly if brutally put by political commentator

Bertrand :

“It cannot be expected that the most powerful military nations will sit

still while other nations reverse the balance of power by the mere process

of breeding.†[21]

Pierre Lellouche, aide to French premier Jacques Chirac, reports the

disparity of birth-rates between the First and Third Worlds thus:

“The African population is projected to triple within the next 30 years,

reaching an estimated level of 1.6 billion. Moreover, the Middle East,

Central Asia and the Indian sub-continent all have volatile admixtures of

acute poverty, demographic explosion and political instability. Together

these regions will have some 4 billion people within 30 years, while due

north sit 500 million ageing Europeans already in a squall of demographic

depression.†[22]

Ben Wattenberg, an analyst with the influential American Enterprise

Institute, is one of many scholars who believes that the First/Third World

growth trends are probably now irreversible:

“Western culture was dominant forty-odd years ago after the end of World

War 2, when the West made up 22% of the Earth’s population. Today the West

comprises 15% - and we are still dominant. [but] it is just about a sure

thing that it will decline to under 9% by 2025 and probably down to about

5% by 2100 if present trends continue.

Even if Western fertility should climb back to the replacement level in the

decades to come, the population of the Third World will be a much greater

proportion of the world’s population than it is now. Those Third World

nations will also likely be richer and more powerful than they are now… Do

we know enough about the Chinese, the Indians, the Indonesians, the

Nigerians and the Brazilians? Do we know their languages? Do we know their

cultures? We ought to. These are the demographic superpowers of the next

century. †[23]

Does evidence unequivocally show the existence of Western-sponsored

measures designed to curtail population in those developing nations deemed

a national security threat to the strategic interests of the West? Do we

see agendas underway to keep these burgeoning peoples in a state of

perpetual emergency, either through the introduction of real or perceived

threats to their national security, such as AIDS, famine and local

conflicts, making the developing nation dependent on the West for relief

and assistance? Have measures been crafted to reduce population rapidly

without the target nation necessarily being aware of the full agenda being

worked out under its nose?

It is not hard to discover, if you visit these developing countries, that

the eradication of world hunger and disease is not only deliberately NOT

being pursued, but is in fact the complete antithesis of what the Western

hegemony wants for Africa, India and other developing nations, now deemed a

strategic threat because of their populations. As we saw in World Without

AIDS, when Africa cries out for simple agricultural tools and fresh water,

the UN gives them condoms. When Africa asks for food for the children, the

UN gives the kids safe-sex tee-shirts. When Rwandan women cry out to the UN

to help bring an end to the deliberate mass-murder perpetrated by rival

tribes with machetes,[24] the UN responds by pulling out its peacekeepers

and instructing the AID organisations to send in the condoms, bodybags and

IUDs. [25]

As far as the First World is concerned, while it is true that life

expectancy in these nations has increased during the technological gradient

of the 20th Century, birth-rates have markedly decreased. Despite the

trumpeting of drug companies who like to take most of the credit for this

extension in Western longevity, the increase has less to do with drugs

conquering diseases as it has with vast improvements in nutrition and

sanitation. In fact, the improvement in life expectancy during the 20th

Century, given the tremendous advances man has been able to make in

technology of all kinds, can be viewed as somewhat disappointing. For

instance, once men reach 50, they can only expect to survive about eight

years longer than they would have in 1900.

And so, birth-rates are declining in most First World nations today, many

couples not even producing the two children necessary to replace and

therefore sustain the existing population. One reason for this decline is

family economics. It is costing more to live in the First World, especially

as the direct and indirect tax burden increases. And while the ready

availability of credit may give the false impression of a family’s wealth

and social standing, real disposable income has been reducing, and with it

the desire to add to a family’s existing problems with even two or three

additional children.

Such is our Western culture that our children almost never grow up to

contribute in adulthood to their original family’s day-to-day economic

strength and survival. Our kids grow up, thank us for the education and the

food, and then break away to form families of their own. By contrast, Third

World families view offspring as an essential part of the family’s

work-force and earning potential for life, and so do not view multiple

offspring in the same context economically as the West. A perspective study

by the World Bank candidly points out:

“Few Africans are yet persuaded of the advantages of smaller families; they

see land as abundant and labor as scarce.†[26]

Declining birth-rates in the West also have much to do with the toxins with

which a fully developed industrial society surrounds its citizens every

day. This is an important subject which is given some detailed airing in

this book.

Although at first sight, a First World family seems to have the optimum

shot at longevity, the following general picture reveals the elements

working for and against longevity for the Northern Hemisphere’s

industrialised populations:

FOR LONGEVITY - AGAINST LONGEVITY

- Better sanitation - General environmental

toxicity

- Better nutrition than - Insufficient mineral content

developing nations in food

- Non-toxic medical - Poisons in water supply and

food

procedures - Dangerous medical

procedures

- Better law and order - the treating of

metabolic deficiency

- -- - - -- -- -- - - -- - diseases with

chemicals

(Excerpted from Health Wars by Day – available at

http://www.credence.org/)

________________________________________________________

" If one advances confidently in the direction of his dreams,

And endeavors to live the life imagined,

He will meet with success unexpected in common hours. "

-Thoreau

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quite amazing isn't it?

robin

Re: Hello

In a message dated 6/27/2001 10:56:40 AM Eastern Daylight Time,

sparrow@... writes:

> i am wondering why so many of us have found that the current thyroid tests

> are so incorrect and that the medical community at large will not fix the

> problem. as i see it , if you are tested daily for a month, the tests will

> reveal the variations in the thyroid levels. i believe that testing just

> once a year is a total waste for most of us and inconclusive at the least.

> robin

>

I wonder these same things. The following article that I am forwarding from

another group sounds a bit conspiracy theory. I do not doubt that it is

true.

It seems that governments want a bit of urban renewal at our expense:)

~Monnie

Subj: POPULATION WARS

Date: 6/27/2001 3:55:47 AM Eastern Daylight Time

From: dusan@... (A. A.)

Reply-to: <A

HREF= " mailto:mscured " >mscured </A>

To: cancercured , aidscured ,

mscured

POPULATION WARS

http://www.credence.org/

A Comparison of First and

Third World Health Agendas

“It creates a very disagreeable impression to see people who are white,

European, or of European origin, trying to sow the seeds of sterility in

populations that are about to escape from under their domination.†– Alfred

Sauvy in “Le faux probleme de la population mondiale†(1949)

In this report we will examine the reasons why today’s global and domestic

medical, chemical and political infrastructures are perversely acting to

shorten lives rather than extend them. This is some allegation, which is

why I have devoted some time to analyse the important issues involved.

Firstly, let’s discuss a little background to some of the forces operating

in global healthcare today.

For many years I have studied strategic political and economic trends of

governments and learned how these trends interact to dictate policy

initiatives that affect us at the citizen level. On the street, few sane

people would argue that a long, healthy and happy life is the most

desirable. We ordinary decent citizens would therefore expect our

politicians, corporations and medical establishment to be working

tirelessly day and night to bring about this happy state of affairs for as

many of us as possible. Sadly, as we shall see, this is almost the complete

opposite of what is in fact occurring. More tragically, many in the upper

echelons of power (power ironically given to them by their constituents)

know their measures are deliberately shortening the lives of their voters,

and yet these powerful ones are deliberately signing off on the continuing

slaughter of their own citizenry and even taking measures to ensure

continuance of same. Why? It might serve us to discover whether these

startling allegations are true at all.

Governments, healthcare officials and drug companies are quick to advise

the people that ‘medicine has made fabulous strides forward in the 20th

Century, resulting in people living healthier and longer lives.’ We often

hear from cancer charities about the ‘amazing progress’ being made in

defeating cancer. HIV-AIDS too is being battled with success, we are

repeatedly told, with AZT and other AIDS drugs, known as protease

inhibitors, able to hold the fearsome HIV at bay. Currently, we learn from

the news, the US government, the World Health Organization (WHO) and United

Nations (UN) are working with drug companies to make these highly expensive

drugs affordable to African nations, so these chemicals can bring much

needed and life-saving relief to their beleaguered, suffering citizens.

We hear about how government works day and night to pass regulations that

will make our environment safer for us and our children to live in. We have

organisations in America such as the US Food & Drug Administration (FDA),

the American Medical Association (AMA), the Environmental Protection Agency

(EPA), the National Institutes of Health (NIH) and the Centers for Disease

Control (CDC) all beavering away to ensure that no harm befalls us through

the food provided for us, the medicine or the water we are given to consume.

In the UK, we have a similar group of agencies watching out for us. The

British public rest assured that the Medicines Control Agency (MCA), the

Environment Agency, the British Medical Association (BMA) and the General

Medical Council are overseeing the condition of the nation’s health day and

night. And elsewhere in the world, under the auspices of the United

Nations, we are fortunate to have the World Health Organization and its

myriad sub-divisions caring for the health and well-being of less developed

countries (LDCs), who haven’t yet the money or the technical expertise to

set up similar watchdog agencies for themselves.

What organisation. Thank God for 21st Century healthcare! What a relief

that someone out there is watching over the planet.

Sad to say, everything mentioned in the above two paragraphs, with the

exception of AIDS drugs being expensive, is a lie and the complete opposite

of what is happening. In reality, as we shall see, these health agencies

have been in possession of life-saving information for decades about cancer

and heart disease, and have chosen not to use it. They have been in

possession of life-saving information regarding HIV-AIDS, and have chosen

to ignore it. They have been in possession of life-saving information

concerning dangerous environmental contaminants and poisons used in

everyday foods, water and products we use, but have chosen not only NOT to

curtail their use and warn the public, but deliberately to promote their

use, misleading the public about the dangers and ensuring their continued

production.

And what about the massive aid the West is handing over to the developing

nations? Surely that is making all the difference? Unfortunately once

again, the exact opposite is happening. Most have no idea that the money

extended to Third World nations in a supposedly benevolent fashion is

always only given with the proviso that the receiving nation will agree to

stringent population control and economic measures designed and formulated

by the West.[17] The main cast of characters here are the World Bank, the

UN, Western intelligence agencies, the IMF and certain Non-Governmental

Organisations (NGOs) who are responsible for collating statistics, crafting

the agendas, issuing and disbursing the funds, and implementing their

stringent control policies. It has also been these loans for ‘development

and mechanisation’, coupled with the forcing of modern technologies onto

these developing nations which, more than any other factor, have been

responsible for racking up the awesome debt beleaguering most Third World

countries today.

Given the extraordinary budgets currently being ploughed into the

developing nations under the guise of ‘aid programs’, it has been argued

that this same money could have been used to eradicate world hunger and

debt in these countries before now. In other words, instead of handing

billions over to corrupt dictators, who used the money for waging war

against their own and neighbouring populations, or who salted the cash away

in Swiss accounts for their own retirements, why weren’t the funds used to

alleviate the real problems facing these developing countries? Why didn’t

the West supply the target nation with fresh, clean water to alleviate

cholera, parasitic infections and dysentery? Three billion people on this

planet do not have access to safe water and proper sewerage.[18] Why

haven’t proper sanitation facilities been purchased with the West’s cash

and plumbed into every village in Africa to prevent cholera, typhoid and

other diseases? Why weren’t proper agricultural programs installed to help

the poor of these nations provide themselves with a sustainable food chain

to avoid the malnutrition chronically afflicting the Third World today? In

short, why wasn’t the money used to help train these nations to develop

themselves economically so they could henceforth provide for themselves in

these areas?

These are the questions most people ask themselves whenever the issue of

Third World poverty hits the headlines. Most citizens are baffled at the

apparent complexity governments bring to bear on these issues when the

simple answer seems to be staring them in the face: ‘Give a man a fish and

you feed him for a day. Teach a man to fish and you feed him for a

lifetime.’ What’s the complication?

Helping developing nations with food and water and then educating them to

become self-sufficient by assisting them with the development of their

economy makes common sense. These are very achievable goals and in fact

form the central agendas for many a well-intentioned Third World relief

organisation. These organisations however become more than a little baffled

by the strange lack of support they receive from national government or the

UN in pursuing these matters. Why?[19]

The confusion facing the average citizen and aid organisation contemplating

these matters arises because both are unaware that the UN and First World

governments are desperately implementing an altogether different agenda.

Namely, the systematic reduction (eradication) of burgeoning populations

that are being viewed as a strategic threat to the First World. Put more

simply, Western society and its associated power structures have ruled the

world for five hundred years, and naturally wish to continue doing so,

either through the Western-dominated UN or an eventual Western-influenced

global government.

A Central Intelligence Agency document puts the perceived problem this way:

“World population growth is likely to contribute, directly or indirectly,

to domestic upheavals and international conflicts that could adversely

affect US interests. Population growth will also reinforce the

politicisation of international economic relations and intensify the drive

[of less developed countries] for a redistribution of wealth and of

authority in international affairs.†[20]

However, as we shall learn, it was primarily not the growth of Third World

populations that began to destabilise the world demographic picture, but a

marked decline in Western birth-rates, which raised in the minds of

strategists the spectre of the West’s eventual marginalisation by new Third

World economic and military superpowers. The need for the West to act to

secure its continued survival as the world’s dominant cultural and

political power is succinctly if brutally put by political commentator

Bertrand :

“It cannot be expected that the most powerful military nations will sit

still while other nations reverse the balance of power by the mere process

of breeding.†[21]

Pierre Lellouche, aide to French premier Jacques Chirac, reports the

disparity of birth-rates between the First and Third Worlds thus:

“The African population is projected to triple within the next 30 years,

reaching an estimated level of 1.6 billion. Moreover, the Middle East,

Central Asia and the Indian sub-continent all have volatile admixtures of

acute poverty, demographic explosion and political instability. Together

these regions will have some 4 billion people within 30 years, while due

north sit 500 million ageing Europeans already in a squall of demographic

depression.†[22]

Ben Wattenberg, an analyst with the influential American Enterprise

Institute, is one of many scholars who believes that the First/Third World

growth trends are probably now irreversible:

“Western culture was dominant forty-odd years ago after the end of World

War 2, when the West made up 22% of the Earth’s population. Today the West

comprises 15% - and we are still dominant. [but] it is just about a sure

thing that it will decline to under 9% by 2025 and probably down to about

5% by 2100 if present trends continue.

Even if Western fertility should climb back to the replacement level in the

decades to come, the population of the Third World will be a much greater

proportion of the world’s population than it is now. Those Third World

nations will also likely be richer and more powerful than they are now… Do

we know enough about the Chinese, the Indians, the Indonesians, the

Nigerians and the Brazilians? Do we know their languages? Do we know their

cultures? We ought to. These are the demographic superpowers of the next

century. †[23]

Does evidence unequivocally show the existence of Western-sponsored

measures designed to curtail population in those developing nations deemed

a national security threat to the strategic interests of the West? Do we

see agendas underway to keep these burgeoning peoples in a state of

perpetual emergency, either through the introduction of real or perceived

threats to their national security, such as AIDS, famine and local

conflicts, making the developing nation dependent on the West for relief

and assistance? Have measures been crafted to reduce population rapidly

without the target nation necessarily being aware of the full agenda being

worked out under its nose?

It is not hard to discover, if you visit these developing countries, that

the eradication of world hunger and disease is not only deliberately NOT

being pursued, but is in fact the complete antithesis of what the Western

hegemony wants for Africa, India and other developing nations, now deemed a

strategic threat because of their populations. As we saw in World Without

AIDS, when Africa cries out for simple agricultural tools and fresh water,

the UN gives them condoms. When Africa asks for food for the children, the

UN gives the kids safe-sex tee-shirts. When Rwandan women cry out to the UN

to help bring an end to the deliberate mass-murder perpetrated by rival

tribes with machetes,[24] the UN responds by pulling out its peacekeepers

and instructing the AID organisations to send in the condoms, bodybags and

IUDs. [25]

As far as the First World is concerned, while it is true that life

expectancy in these nations has increased during the technological gradient

of the 20th Century, birth-rates have markedly decreased. Despite the

trumpeting of drug companies who like to take most of the credit for this

extension in Western longevity, the increase has less to do with drugs

conquering diseases as it has with vast improvements in nutrition and

sanitation. In fact, the improvement in life expectancy during the 20th

Century, given the tremendous advances man has been able to make in

technology of all kinds, can be viewed as somewhat disappointing. For

instance, once men reach 50, they can only expect to survive about eight

years longer than they would have in 1900.

And so, birth-rates are declining in most First World nations today, many

couples not even producing the two children necessary to replace and

therefore sustain the existing population. One reason for this decline is

family economics. It is costing more to live in the First World, especially

as the direct and indirect tax burden increases. And while the ready

availability of credit may give the false impression of a family’s wealth

and social standing, real disposable income has been reducing, and with it

the desire to add to a family’s existing problems with even two or three

additional children.

Such is our Western culture that our children almost never grow up to

contribute in adulthood to their original family’s day-to-day economic

strength and survival. Our kids grow up, thank us for the education and the

food, and then break away to form families of their own. By contrast, Third

World families view offspring as an essential part of the family’s

work-force and earning potential for life, and so do not view multiple

offspring in the same context economically as the West. A perspective study

by the World Bank candidly points out:

“Few Africans are yet persuaded of the advantages of smaller families; they

see land as abundant and labor as scarce.†[26]

Declining birth-rates in the West also have much to do with the toxins with

which a fully developed industrial society surrounds its citizens every

day. This is an important subject which is given some detailed airing in

this book.

Although at first sight, a First World family seems to have the optimum

shot at longevity, the following general picture reveals the elements

working for and against longevity for the Northern Hemisphere’s

industrialised populations:

FOR LONGEVITY - AGAINST LONGEVITY

- Better sanitation - General environmental

toxicity

- Better nutrition than - Insufficient mineral

content

developing nations in food

- Non-toxic medical - Poisons in water supply and

food

procedures - Dangerous medical

procedures

- Better law and order - the treating of

metabolic deficiency

- -- - - -- -- -- - - -- - diseases with

chemicals

(Excerpted from Health Wars by Day – available at

http://www.credence.org/)

________________________________________________________

" If one advances confidently in the direction of his dreams,

And endeavors to live the life imagined,

He will meet with success unexpected in common hours. "

-Thoreau

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Amy,I am so sorry. Wow.For me, when i had an episode the back of my eyes hurt. Real pressure. I also had low grade fever, malaise and could sleep forever. And it was never enough. I do not recall ever having pin sized rash. My lumps always stayed on my ankles to on rare occassions above my knee. Sometimes if is wasnt earing my support stockings multiple lumps would migrate into one gigantic one. The larges lumps was about 8 inches in diameter. They were always hot, very hot and if i didnt ice them they would blister. I would strongly suggest getting your thyroid tsh levels checked. I found that years later mine was off the charts. I would get your vit D levels checked too since D deficiency affects thyroid and almost all hormones. Joints etc. Also look into your pregnancy being a trigger, too. It was for several people in this group.Definitely you will need support stockings- they will be a huge relief, ice or cool bath your legs when it gets bad, eat the cleanest diet you can and avoid stress as much as possible-which is kind of a joke these days, but it is something that must be learned because stress is a big trigger, too.I have been almost one year symptom free: i take armour for my hypothyroid which i discovered after a thyroid test-the doctor put me on synthroid, but i still experience EN-i learned later Synthroid addresses only one of the two tsh levels and both are absolutely nessessary when addressing possible solutions. My Rheumatologist reccommended that and I have felt terrific since switching. Also if your D is as deficient as mine it will wreak havoc in multiple ways and most people these days are severly deficient. I had to take 4,000 units a day for 7 months to restore my levels. I also take potassium and magnesium and drink oranic apple cider vinegar tonic. I do not know which has played the greater role so i am vigilante with all. All I know is I feel greta and it has taken a lot of experimenting on myself.Sorry for all the typos! I am texting.I am hoping you have a doctor who has your total care in mind.BestMLEN 1975; EN free for 8 months.WellSent via BlackBerry from T-MobileFrom: "vergara06@..." Date: Fri, 27 Feb 2009 03:48:06 -0000To: <erythema_nodosum_Group >Subject: hello Well, I'm new to this group and really to this whole experience. I've read many posts where some of you hve suffered for so long. My symptoms started a month ago and I'm just so frustrated. I will try to describe some of what's going on. If anyone can shed some light on where to go from here, I'd be so grateful. I'm a 38 yr old school teacher with a 8 month old son. About 4 weeks ago I was teaching and had partial vision loss. I thought I was having a stroke. I was told I had an ocular migraine. Over the next week I developed a headache, which I can only describe as a constant pressure. I had a low grade fever with chills every night. I had some difficulty breathing and even coughed with deep breaths. I went to two different family physicians who told me they had no clue. All the doctors agreed that my SED rate was above normal. Next I developed the painful knots on my legs and was told it was erythema nodosum. Within a week I could not walk or even pick up my child due to the severe pain in my knee, wrist, hip, ankle, etc.. joints. I have been on 40 mg a day of prednisone. It's making me crazy!!! I have been to the rheumatologist and he ruled out lymes, lupus, fungal issues, sarcodosis, and some other words I can't spell!The opthamalogist said my optic nerve seemed slightly inflamed. They sent me to the neurologist who says I seem ok. He ordered an MRI and MRA and tomorrow I will have an EEG. I am to see these Doctors again in a couple weeks. I woke up yesterday with a rash on the undersides of my arms, my legs, face, back and it itches. They are about pin-point sized bumps. On top of all this mess...my joints feel weak and I accidently dumped sizzling olive oil from my mid-arm to finger tips! I have no sick days and am becoming depressed and losing all hope. No one seems to have any answers. I guess I was hoping on here to find others who can sympathize, point me in some direction, and lend an ear. I am saddened there are so many of us on here with no answers at all. Thanks for " listening " to me! All of you are in my prayers.... Amy

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Dear Amy

I too have bad migraines of every sort. I have had all the test done to all mine came

back normal. I have had blood test sed rate done too. All my dr's treat me as "Its all

in my head." plz dont give up. I hurt so bad ankles, knees, back and joints ect. I am praying for warmer weather. You r in my prayer too, mary b omaha ne

Subject: helloTo: erythema_nodosum_Group Date: Thursday, February 26, 2009, 9:48 PM

Well, I'm new to this group and really to this whole experience. I've read many posts where some of you hve suffered for so long. My symptoms started a month ago and I'm just so frustrated. I will try to describe some of what's going on. If anyone can shed some light on where to go from here, I'd be so grateful. I'm a 38 yr old school teacher with a 8 month old son. About 4 weeks ago I was teaching and had partial vision loss. I thought I was having a stroke. I was told I had an ocular migraine. Over the next week I developed a headache, which I can only describe as a constant pressure. I had a low grade fever with chills every night. I had some difficulty breathing and even coughed with deep breaths. I went to two different family physicians who told me they had no clue. All the doctors agreed that my SED rate was above normal. Next I developed the painful knots on my legs and was told it was

erythema nodosum. Within a week I could not walk or even pick up my child due to the severe pain in my knee, wrist, hip, ankle, etc.. joints. I have been on 40 mg a day of prednisone. It's making me crazy!!! I have been to the rheumatologist and he ruled out lymes, lupus, fungal issues, sarcodosis, and some other words I can't spell!The opthamalogist said my optic nerve seemed slightly inflamed. They sent me to the neurologist who says I seem ok. He ordered an MRI and MRA and tomorrow I will have an EEG. I am to see these Doctors again in a couple weeks. I woke up yesterday with a rash on the undersides of my arms, my legs, face, back and it itches. They are about pin-point sized bumps. On top of all this mess...my joints feel weak and I accidently dumped sizzling olive oil from my mid-arm to finger tips! I have no sick days and am becoming depressed and losing all hope. No one seems to have any

answers. I guess I was hoping on here to find others who can sympathize, point me in some direction, and lend an ear. I am saddened there are so many of us on here with no answers at all. Thanks for "listening" to me! All of you are in my prayers....Amy

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I haven't posted in a long time, even though I do read the posts. Things are

going okay. My EN seems to be doing okay, but I have been having problems with

my skin just being overall itchy. I can't seem to find anything to help soothe

my itching skin, especially the scalp. I am an African American female and I am

finding it almost impossible to enjoy any new hairstyles because my scalp itches

so bad. I did not have this problem until my bout with EN and I was put on the

medication. The dermatologist says that it is a wait and see game, but the

itching skin is driving my crazy. I had a couple of lumps that developed on my

leg, but those resolved. I said thank God because my first and only episode was

enough to last a lifetime.

I am praying for everyone who has ever been diagnosed with this EN as it is not

an user friendly disease nor it is easy to deal with. Thanks for all of the

encouragement while I was going through such a horrendous episode.

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Hi there!There was a time that I had an incredibly itchy scalp and skin. It just about drove me crazy!I learned that I had Candida from all the antibiotics over so many years from Drs for my EN. A very simple test for Candida is to put a clear glass of water by your bed and then as soon as you wake up, work up a good spit and spit into the glass. If you spit floats without growing spindles and sinking you do not have it. If it does sink there is the presence of Candida. The Candida causes itching when it is active. Other than that I think you are experiencing some kind of alergy. I don't know if you always itch when you have a break out of EN or if this is a first. I have experienced 95 percent less itching since ridding myself of Candida.I hope any of this is helpful. It's just all from my own experience. Let me know how the test turns out and if it turns out you have Candida i can send you the diet that will rid it. Best,ML GemmillEN 1975Sent via BlackBerry from T-MobileFrom: "jdneely1963" Date: Sat, 25 Apr 2009 02:45:07 -0000To: <erythema_nodosum_Group >Subject: Hello I haven't posted in a long time, even though I do read the posts. Things are going okay. My EN seems to be doing okay, but I have been having problems with my skin just being overall itchy. I can't seem to find anything to help soothe my itching skin, especially the scalp. I am an African American female and I am finding it almost impossible to enjoy any new hairstyles because my scalp itches so bad. I did not have this problem until my bout with EN and I was put on the medication. The dermatologist says that it is a wait and see game, but the itching skin is driving my crazy. I had a couple of lumps that developed on my leg, but those resolved. I said thank God because my first and only episode was enough to last a lifetime. I am praying for everyone who has ever been diagnosed with this EN as it is not an user friendly disease nor it is easy to deal with. Thanks for all of the encouragement while I was going through such a horrendous episode.

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Very interesting indeed! Looking at some of the signs, I guess I will have to do the saliva test myself. Amazing how much we can learn from the web.

Thank you so much for the insight.

Debbie EN 5-7 A Good Credit Score is 700 or Above. See yours in just 2 easy steps!

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Adolfo,Welcome to the listserve! The IMP Map (www.impmap.com) only lists one IMP (Ideal Medical Practice) practice in Florida: Graham in St. sburg. His web site is here: http://www.relayhealth.com/doc/scott.graham. There may be other IMPs in Florida that we just don't know about yet. Let me point out, however, that this listserve is a great place to get advice from the comfort of your own computer. Even though we are scattered around the country/world, it is very easy to ask questions here and get helpful advice about how to set up your own solo Ideal Medical Practice. Another place to find helpful information is the IMP Wiki located at: https://idealhealth.wikispaces.com/. I wear a lot of hats in my solo practice but they are hats of my own choosing, and I didn't have to learn to wear them all at once.How did you find this listserve and where are you located in Florida? SetoSouth Pasadena, CAI am glad you have a place like this. I am thinking about opening up my solo practice. I feel overwhelmed with so many hats that I should wear to do it. Is there any one in florida that can give me advise? thanks, Adolfo

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Adolfo:There were just a few posts looking for interested folks in Florida but it appears there may not be any IMPs who are active on the listserv there. Have you accessed the Wiki for the group or searched the messages for topics of interest? Also- check the the map at impmap.org. What part of Florida are you in? Are you currently practicing there now? Would you be bringing patients with you? Do you have data on reimbursement in your area?Carla Gibson FNPMissoula, MTTo: Sent: Tue, December 1, 2009 12:34:59 PMSubject: hello

I am glad you have a place like this. I am thinking about opening up my solo practice. I feel overwhelmed with so many hats that I should wear to do it. Is there any one in florida that can give me advise? thanks, Adolfo

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I am near Orlando area, I am practicing there. I am hoping that majoriy of my

patients would follow me. Where can I get reimbursement data from my area? I

will contanct the doctor in florida , maybe I can visit his practice so I can

have a better idea.thanks, adolfo

>

> Adolfo:

>

> There were just a few posts looking for interested folks in Florida but it

appears there may not be any IMPs who are active on the listserv there. Have

you accessed the Wiki for the group or searched the messages for topics of

interest? Also- check the the map at impmap.org.

>

> What part of Florida are you in? Are you currently practicing there now? Would

you be bringing patients with you? Do you have data on reimbursement in your

area?

>

> Carla Gibson FNP

> Missoula, MT

>

>

>

> ________________________________

>

> To:

> Sent: Tue, December 1, 2009 12:34:59 PM

> Subject: hello

>

>

> I am glad you have a place like this. I am thinking about opening up my solo

practice. I feel overwhelmed with so many hats that I should wear to do it. Is

there any one in florida that can give me advise? thanks, Adolfo

>

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Might it be possible to access information from your current practice? If you are hoping your patients follow you then your demographic is already well-defined within your current billing system/practice software. You can find out who your most common insurers are if it is not obvious otherwise. Most software can tell you what your major insurers reimburse for each particular visit code. You can also request fee schedules from the insurers you would like to contract with. If they will not share their entire fee schedule, they will usually share up to 20 of your most common cpt codes if you ask. Call their customer service numbers for providers and ask. Remember that you won't collect 100% of the allowable fees and certainly not 100% of your charges- play with

spreadsheets that will illustrate your percentage of medicare vs your major insurers and their allowables. You can access medicare allowables for your region at: http://www.cms.hhs.gov/apps/ama/license.asp?file=/pfslookup/02_PFSsearch.asp#TopOfPageThis site seems to have a glitch right now- I usually can select my local carrier and then find specific data for Montana- right now, no matter what you choose, you get the national rates.Hope this helps some. Does the Orlando area have a somewhat lower medicare population than the Coasts? I'm assuming with the theme parks there requiring so many younger workers it will be less skewed compared to the coasts. CarlaTo: Sent: Sat, December 5, 2009 5:33:34 PMSubject: Re: hello

I am near Orlando area, I am practicing there. I am hoping that majoriy of my patients would follow me. Where can I get reimbursement data from my area? I will contanct the doctor in florida , maybe I can visit his practice so I can have a better idea.thanks, adolfo

>

> Adolfo:

>

> There were just a few posts looking for interested folks in Florida but it appears there may not be any IMPs who are active on the listserv there. Have you accessed the Wiki for the group or searched the messages for topics of interest? Also- check the the map at impmap.org.

>

> What part of Florida are you in? Are you currently practicing there now? Would you be bringing patients with you? Do you have data on reimbursement in your area?

>

> Carla Gibson FNP

> Missoula, MT

>

>

>

> ____________ _________ _________ __

> From: AdolfoT <zapoyol@... >

> To: Practiceimprovement 1yahoogroups (DOT) com

> Sent: Tue, December 1, 2009 12:34:59 PM

> Subject: [Practiceimprovemen t1] hello

>

>

> I am glad you have a place like this. I am thinking about opening up my solo practice. I feel overwhelmed with so many hats that I should wear to do it. Is there any one in florida that can give me advise? thanks, Adolfo

>

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When you bill medicare, do you have to bill their exact fee or your usual fee and get what you get?

 

Might it be possible to access information from your current practice?  If you are hoping your patients follow you then your demographic is already well-defined within your current billing system/practice software. You can find out who your most common insurers are if it is not obvious otherwise. Most software can tell you what your major insurers reimburse for each particular visit code.   You can also request fee schedules from the insurers you would like to contract with. If they will not share their entire fee schedule, they will usually share up to 20 of your most common cpt codes if you ask.  Call their customer service numbers for providers and ask. Remember that you won't collect 100% of the allowable fees and certainly not 100% of your charges- play with spreadsheets that will illustrate your percentage of medicare vs your major insurers and their allowables.  You can access medicare allowables for your region at: http://www.cms.hhs.gov/apps/ama/license.asp?file=/pfslookup/02_PFSsearch.asp#TopOfPage

This site seems to have a glitch right now- I usually can select my local carrier and then find specific data for Montana- right now, no matter what you choose, you get the national rates.

Hope this helps some.  Does the Orlando area have a somewhat lower medicare population than the Coasts? I'm assuming with the theme parks there requiring so many younger workers it will be less skewed compared to the coasts. 

Carla

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I am near Orlando area, I am practicing there. I am hoping that majoriy of my patients would follow me. Where can I get reimbursement data from my area? I will contanct the doctor in florida , maybe I can visit his practice so I can have a better idea.thanks, adolfo

>> Adolfo:

> > There were just a few posts looking for interested folks in Florida but it appears there may not be any IMPs who are active on the listserv there. Have you accessed the Wiki for the group or searched the messages for topics of interest? Also- check the the map at impmap.org.

> > What part of Florida are you in? Are you currently practicing there now? Would you be bringing patients with you? Do you have data on reimbursement in your area?> > Carla Gibson FNP> Missoula, MT

> > > > ____________ _________ _________ __> From: AdolfoT <zapoyol@... >> To: Practiceimprovement 1yahoogroups (DOT) com > Sent: Tue, December 1, 2009 12:34:59 PM> Subject: [Practiceimprovemen t1] hello > > > I am glad you have a place like this. I am thinking about opening up my solo practice. I feel overwhelmed with so many hats that I should wear to do it. Is there any one in florida that can give me advise? thanks, Adolfo

>

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