Re: Passive smoking etc

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Hi June,

I also inhaled my father's cigarettes until I left for college and then on weekends when I came home. In college I tried cigarettes but could not learn how to inhale, did not enjoy smoking and found better uses for my money which was a wise choice. However, at my age, 70, I have inhaled cigarette smoke everywhere except at home since I was married. I started working at my state's health department where cigarette smoking was prohibited within 15 feet of the entrance to the building but by then the damage was already done. What annoyed me when I went to city council meetings before a smoking ban in businesses was enacted, is that the smokers said that they have rights too. They do not have the right to harm those who do not choose to smoke. When they had nonsmoking sections in airplanes, I thought that was useless. How do they expect the smoke to stay confined to a certain section of a plane or restaurant?

When I saw my allergist Wednesday, he told me that I could stop my allergy shots as my allergy tests show that I only have minimal allergies. He said that my biggest problem was a complex symptom, vasomotor rhinitis. The following is some of the information from a handout that he gave me when I was in his office.

There is no cure for vasomotor rhinitis but avoidance of irritants makes it worse. The thing that aggravates vasomotor rhinitis is AEROSOL products. These may include hair sprays, deodorants and insecticides. Other nonspecific factors which aggravate this condition are cigarette smoke, air pollution, even specific changes in weather or humidity (especially rainy weather). ANY type of irritant that you can inhale into the nose may aggravate symptoms. He said that it could even be the smell of certain foods.

If I would have had this information earlier, I could have told my primary care physician who would not refer me to a pulmonologist when I requested him to do so, because he told me that it would take a long time to get my allergies under control. My primary care physician would not refer me to a pulmonary doctor until after I had two bouts of walking pneumonia. If I had known that my condition was vasomotor rhinitis, I could have relayed this information from the allergist to the primary care doctor and perhaps received the proper treatment from a pulmonologist sooner. I am sorry this is so long. I just needed to get this off my chest and hopefully it might help someone else.

Norma

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Please read my correction. I should not have attempted to copy this article when I am not feeling well, have not done any breathing treatments, have only eaten one meal today and am fatigued from two weeks of breathing Tobramycin along with my first day on my heart monitor.

My apologies, Norma

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I also get little sore spots on my tongue—so

small that I can’t even see them.

I’ve thought that it must be from using Advair. I get thrush all the time and it’s

been a real challenge even trying to keep it under control.

I agree that smoking around children

should be classed as child abuse. Fortunately,

smoking is banned in many, many public places where I live, and I do not

patronize anyplace where smoking is allowed. Yes, people have the right to wreck

their own lungs, but they don’t have the right to wreck mine!!!! There, I’ve let off a little

steam.

Barb

Passive

smoking etc

Hi everyone, thanks for the post this morning.

I was so interested to

hear about your childhood history, it is pretty

similar to mine. Being exposed

to my mum's cigarettes and dads pipe I had so many

infections as a child. I

get so angry now when I see parents blowing

smoke over their kids, it should

be classed as child abuse. Norma, lovely to hear

from you, yes I am taking

painkillers for the headaches but the pain is so

bad even strong painkillers

don't take it away. I'm going back to the Brompton

at the end of the month and

I will ask the consultant who prescribed

Phyllocontin what I can do to stop the

killer head aches.

Two other problems I have just now is since I came

off the Prednisolone I feel

excessively tired, I've had a busy 2 weeks with

work and thought it was that

but the last 2 nights I've slept for 9

hours and still feel whacked. Last night I

slobbed in front of TV which is most unlike

me! Hope this passes soon. The

other thing is since I've been using

Seretide 250 inhaler my mouth feels sore.

I've switched to using a spacer to take it, I

don't think I have thrush, just little

sore points at the edge of my tongue, has any one

else had this?

Love to everyone June

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but avoidance of irritants makes it worse

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I

> get so angry now when I see parents blowing smoke over their kids,

it should

> be classed as child abuse.

----------Actually I have very much felt the same way about this, but

its nice to see someone else saying the same.

a child wil be ignored if they say Mummy/Daddy/Auntie/Grandad or

whoever your smoking is affecting my lungs and making me poorly, the

child if anything will get laughed at and told to stop being silly

and told its not that bad!

I have to bite my tongue, because i have watched my husands family

avoid smokng around the newborns, but once they are toddlers, they

smoke infront of them, as if one-2 years of not smoking around them

will stop them from getting lung diseases, like asthma,

bronchiectasis etc.

as in my introduction I suffer fibromyalgia, you might not know what

this is, but if I said put simply its like having toothache in all

your muscles (all mean severy single muscle when it causes a big

flare) and teh symptoms of M.E. on top plus a load more one of which

is sleep depravation, other intolerance and alergies to new things,

if the fibro flares are cuased by prolong stress you get more

allergers, of course, since I also cough up stuff in the morning and

since living with his mother and father (the smoker) for about 6

months my own peak flow readings dropped form average of 550-600 to

an average now of 450, no wonder their son (my hubby) has an average

peak reading of 250 and a oxygen in blood amount on the low side as

standard!

he was dx'd at 6 weeks old with asthma, and even 45 years ago,

according to a nursing friend of mine, parents of asthmatic children

where warned to reduce exposure of ETS, but either they were not

told, then and smokng was allowed around him, but then why then years

down the line and also when he spend 18 months in Switzerland at a

place for children with asthma conditions, as when he returned to the

UK he didn't need his inhalers for month safter, but slowly i assume

due to passive smoking and possible the poorer air of towns, his

lungs got messed up and he has his mother admits many bronchitis

infections as a child too.

sad to realise that my hubby too was 'abused' as a child with

breathing in 2nd hand smoke. by either uncaring, inconsiderate, or

maybe just parents that couldn't come to terms with the fact smoke

was damaging their son, so blocked it out hopeing it would 'go away'.

no wonder she is getting upset when she is informed that his passive

smoking over th eyears has caused this problems and that he needs out

of it like yesteryear really.

maybe it should be putto health authorities and also child protection

groups, about passive smoking in children. I think smoking should be

banned totally, or if not children should not be exposed to it until

they are 18 when they are adult enough or should be adult enough to

make their own mind up if they wish to smoke more not, having been

given all the danger info in graphic detail, it should be taught in

schools about the graph detail for as young as 12-14 year olds

even. nip it in the bub before they can legally start to smoke, ok

some will get smokes fomr older mates and some like a child over the

road fomr me, she has smoked since single numbers year and now at

able 12-13 smokes like she is an old person been smoking for 50-60

years, got all the hand movement you see in longterm smokings to a T.

its so depressing viewing.

also that so many people ignore 'thanks for not smoking and no

smoking signs' just shows you how many people do not care other than

for their own selfish needs. i do however know fo some considerate

smokers, that will not smoke even around their partner if not smoking

partner, but most of those are trying hard to give up anyway, I have

also seen a friend have a mini storke in front of my, I realised it

might be but didn't wish to worry anyone if it wasn't that. she to

is trying hard now to give up smoking, but manyof the smokers that

are not trying I know will not smoke around anyone nor in their own

home if they have non smoking visitors, nor in their cars.

shame my hubbies family have inconsiderate smokers, that will not put

our needs as paramount importance.

Elaine (~..~)