Guest guest Posted March 17, 2008 Report Share Posted March 17, 2008 Hello Was good to hear you on Radio 4 on Sat. Let's hope that your local education authority (and the rest of the UK) learns some lessons from your story. Well done on getting it told. It's shocking that provision is so poor. I do wonder how many other parents are going through similar issues still. I sent a message to you via the Sat. Live email but in case you don't receive it, I'll just repeat it here. It's regarding your thoughts on MMR (controversial, I know, but well done on saying it) and how this vaccination may well have contributed to your son's condition. I think my family situation supports this idea - my husband is AS but none of our 3 children are. They have not been vaccinated. Listening to people's stories in general it seems that most families with an AS parent have a child on the spectrum too. I have always thought that one reason none of our children are AS might be due to not being vaccinated. It's a possibility. It would be good if a study was conducted to see what kind of a link there is between the MMR vaccination and genetic predisposition to ASD. It would also be good to know what the prevalence of autism is in the non-vaccinated population. Does anyone know? Good luck with your book Delyth Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 17, 2008 Report Share Posted March 17, 2008 Delyth Bolt wrote: > Hello > > Was good to hear you on Radio 4 on Sat. > > Let's hope that your local education authority (and the rest of the UK) > learns some lessons from your story. Well done on getting it told. It's > shocking that provision is so poor. I do wonder how many other parents > are going through similar issues still. I agree, it came over well. > I sent a message to you via the Sat. Live email but in case you don't > receive it, I'll just repeat it here. It's regarding your thoughts on > MMR (controversial, I know, but well done on saying it) and how this > vaccination may well have contributed to your son's condition. I think > my family situation supports this idea - my husband is AS but none of > our 3 children are. They have not been vaccinated. Listening to > people's stories in general it seems that most families with an AS > parent have a child on the spectrum too. I have always thought that one > reason none of our children are AS might be due to not being > vaccinated. It's a possibility. > > It would be good if a study was conducted to see what kind of a link > there is between the MMR vaccination and genetic predisposition to ASD. > It would also be good to know what the prevalence of autism is in the > non-vaccinated population. > > Does anyone know? This is indeed VERY important research. Unfortunately any country where Autism is formally diagnosed will also using vaccination. There might be evidence in countries such as Japan where single jabs can be used. What we need is a worldwide database on families. Short of that there might be a marker of LFA, a very obvious condition) which is available in most countries. If we then assume that the Autism incidence is common to all humans, the marker of LFA incidence should be the same everywhere too. Answer _why_ any variation found would not be answered. If more or less no variation is found it is unlikely that vaccination is doing much. Is there such a marker? I suspect not, however, clever use of data might help. For example factoring in the rate of the vaccination should show a pattern in advanced countries, where LFA has been recognised for many years. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 17, 2008 Report Share Posted March 17, 2008 Delyth and , I have three children, all NS (as far as I know). I am AS (official), and believe that my ex is as well, down to that train set he constructed that took up a huge part of the attic, which he spent a great deal of time and money on. My children each got all the standard immunizations on schedule, and none reacted badly. My youngest has been diagnosed as ADHD, but reads facial emotion quite well, and corrects others in social situations at times. My daughter is too NT for me! My oldest has a few traits, but has NT people skills, and loves people-oriented things. All my children inherited my mathematical intelligence, but my youngest is the only one who is even thinking of a career in engineering, and at this point, he says he prefers music (he also inherited my perfect pitch). I could write more- I have the best kids in the whole world in my unbiased opinion- but I doubt that vaccination harmed them at all...Still, I do not blame anyone who worries that it may not be good for a child to be vaccinated when there is As in the family. domenica1000 wrote: Thanks. No I didnt receive your email. There were hundreds of emails and texts which will be forwared on at a later date - -- In aspires-relationships , Delyth Bolt wrote: > > Hello > > Was good to hear you on Radio 4 on Sat. > > Let's hope that your local education authority (and the rest of the UK) > learns some lessons from your story. Well done on getting it told. It's > shocking that provision is so poor. I do wonder how many other parents > are going through similar issues still. > > I sent a message to you via the Sat. Live email but in case you don't > receive it, I'll just repeat it here. It's regarding your thoughts on > MMR (controversial, I know, but well done on saying it) and how this > vaccination may well have contributed to your son's condition. I think > my family situation supports this idea - my husband is AS but none of > our 3 children are. They have not been vaccinated. Listening to > people's stories in general it seems that most families with an AS > parent have a child on the spectrum too. I have always thought that one > reason none of our children are AS might be due to not being > vaccinated. It's a possibility. > > It would be good if a study was conducted to see what kind of a link > there is between the MMR vaccination and genetic predisposition to ASD. > It would also be good to know what the prevalence of autism is in the > non-vaccinated population. > > Does anyone know? > > Good luck with your book > > Delyth > --------------------------------- Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile. Try it now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 17, 2008 Report Share Posted March 17, 2008 recent article in new scientist that the amerian govt is paying out to a childs family who was vaccinated with mmr and it was proven she had/ will get autism due to an underlying mitochondrial dysfunction. the opponents of mmr and suggesters of a link to autism are claiming victory, the scientisits are stunned, perhaps bill knows better? domenica1000 wrote: Thanks. No I didnt receive your email. There were hundreds of emails and texts which will be forwared on at a later date - -- In aspires-relationships , Delyth Bolt wrote: > > Hello > > Was good to hear you on Radio 4 on Sat. > > Let's hope that your local education authority (and the rest of the UK) > learns some lessons from your story. Well done on getting it told. It's > shocking that provision is so poor. I do wonder how many other parents > are going through similar issues still. > > I sent a message to you via the Sat. Live email but in case you don't > receive it, I'll just repeat it here. It's regarding your thoughts on > MMR (controversial, I know, but well done on saying it) and how this > vaccination may well have contributed to your son's condition. I think > my family situation supports this idea - my husband is AS but none of > our 3 children are. They have not been vaccinated. Listening to > people's stories in general it seems that most families with an AS > parent have a child on the spectrum too. I have always thought that one > reason none of our children are AS might be due to not being > vaccinated. It's a possibility. > > It would be good if a study was conducted to see what kind of a link > there is between the MMR vaccination and genetic predisposition to ASD. > It would also be good to know what the prevalence of autism is in the > non-vaccinated population. > > Does anyone know? > > Good luck with your book > > Delyth > --------------------------------- Rise to the challenge for Sport Relief with Yahoo! for Good Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 17, 2008 Report Share Posted March 17, 2008 david bailey wrote: > recent article in new scientist that the amerian govt is paying out to a childs family who was vaccinated with mmr and it was proven she had/ will get autism due to an underlying mitochondrial dysfunction. > the opponents of mmr and suggesters of a link to autism are claiming victory, the scientisits are stunned, perhaps bill knows better? It's true, as far as it goes, that a US Federal court made such a determination. One account of that... <http://healthwatcher.wordpress.com/2008/03/06/mmr-and-autism-us-court-says-ther\ e%E2%80%99s-a-link-and-awards-compensation/> ....reads as follows: ____________________________________________________________________ " MMR and Autism: US court says there’s a link, and awards compensation Posted on March 6, 2008 by TruthSeeker The MMR (measles, mumps, rubella) vaccine can cause autism, a US court has concluded. In a secret ruling that has only just come to light, the US Court of Federal Claims has conceded that the mercury-based preservative thimerosal, which was in vaccines until 2002, caused autism in the case of one child. The ruling is one of 4,900 cases currently being considered for compensation payments, and it is feared by health officials that it could open the floodgates for even more claims. It also appears to support the controversial findings of Dr Wakefield, who, in 1998, suggested a link between the vaccine and autism. The ruling, made by US Assistant Attorney General Keisler, was made last November, and was one of three test cases into the MMR-autism link that was being considered by a three-member panel, which Keisler chaired. In his conclusion, Keisler said that “compensation is appropriate”. The case involved a child who, when she was 18 months old, received nine vaccinations in July 2000, two of which included thimerosal. Within days, the girl, who had previously been healthy, suddenly exhibited no response to verbal direction, loss of language skills, no eye contact, insomnia, incessant screaming, and arching. A diagnosis of autism was confirmed seven months later. In its defence, the US government said the girl had a pre-existing mitochondrial disorder that was aggravated by the vaccine. (Source: The Huffington Post, February 25, 2008). ____________________________________________________________________ For a variety of others, Google on the terms " MMR autism court " . The court's ruling is a *prime* example of the so-called " Fallacy of Composition " . " Post hoc, propter hoc " -- Because " B " *happened after* " A " , " B " must have been *caused by* " A " . One decent explanation of that, and many others: <http://iipm-businesseconomics.com/support-notes/class-notes/fallacies.doc> There's a *LOT* of $$$ at stake. I expect the government to appeal. I expect a bunch of protracted court fights. A pity, 'cause simply there is >> NO causal connection << of MMR vaccine with autism, or anything like it. - Bill, 75, AS; ...yes, I got steeeenking credentials. -- WD " Bill " Loughman - Berkeley, California USA http://home.earthlink.net/~wdloughman/wdl.htm Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 6, 2008 Report Share Posted April 6, 2008 Please see my video diary below Not Stupid which will be shown w/c April 14th. My book is the follow on story. Thanks, Sky 539 � Virgin TV 233 � Freeview 87 (6-9am) Coming up... on Community Channel on TV and Online One Life: Fashioned in Africa The moving account of supermodel Alek Wek's journey back to Sudan, the country and war she escaped from 14 years ago. Can she and her mother track down her remaining family? On Sunday 6 April @ 9pm. Watch the trail.more New Volunteer Films - watch online A new series of Volunteer Films -- charity films made by volunteer filmmakers -- have just been released and can be watched, fullscreen online. Nineteen short films from conservation to kids' cookery - a creative collaboration between small charities and volunteer media professionals. And find out more about how you can get involved in the next series. more Coming Soon -- Ewan and Charley - and other April HighlightsComing to the Channel at the end of April is a 3-part series called Ewan and Charley - A road less travelled. Using unseen footage from their recent African epic journey Long Way Down, this gives them an opportunity to get a real insight into Africa, its people and challenges. Meeting children learning about the scourge of landmines in Ethiopia, finding out about child soldiers in Uganda, and seeing what's being done for HIV AIDS orphans in Malawi. Watch the trail. more Not Stupid Not Stupid is an inspiring - and often heartbreaking - filmed account of Kennedy's struggle to bring up and get an education for her two autistic sons. On the Channel on Mon 14 @ 9pm and watch out for the competition will accompany this programme. more Your News -- a co-production News with a difference. It's made by and for people with learning disabilities and learning difficulties and is a co-production between ITN and Media Trust Productions with the support of national disability charity, Mencap. Watch it online and give us your feedback. more News, Views and Events Get your news, views and activities out there using Your Charity Space -- like Emmaus homeless charity or Mother Bridge of Love.And find out about community news on Community Newswire.more Keep watching...and let us know what you think!Community Channel Teamhttp://www.communitychannel.orginfo@...Tel: 08708 50550004/April/2008 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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