Re: Re: Middle of the night......

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Verleen wrote:

>>>Long ago, when I was a student taking an advanced geometry course, I

>>>would go to bed and dream the solution to a difficult problem that my

>>>conscious mind could not solve. I would wake up, grab a piece of

>>>paper, and write out the solution. It was always the correct

>>>solution. Strange, but absolutely nothing to do with AS. Verleen

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>>OR... You *sure* you're not AS?

>> I do the nocturnal solutions thing all the time. Almost every

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> night.

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>> Did as a child, and do it today. Full visuals: rooms, desks, tools,

>>books, paper - everything. In color.

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>>- Bill, 75, AS; ...this one's mind *never* shuts off.

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> Bill, I don't think I am an AS. I am a social person and seek it out.

> I need social relationships to sustain me. I highly value/enjoy

> family and friends. I just need periodic respite time to recoup my

> energy. I have a touchy-feely personality. That's why I immediately

> respond to NTs here who asked for help. I am also quite talkative

> and participative within a group. I just prefer small groups (goes

> back to where my energy comes from).

>

> To illustrate this side of me, I'll go back to the personality typing

> test I took: There are two primary personality decision making types.

> Thinking and Feeling. My husband has a strong Thinking personality

> trait, while I am on strongly on the Feeling chart. Traits on the

> Feeling chart include: Weighing human values and motives,

> appreciating, valuing warmth in relationships, prizing harmony,

> trusting, etc. For my 'Thinking 'husband, everything is black or

> white (no grey, whereas I see most things in life in terms of grey).

> He uses logic analysis, draws cause and effect relationships and is

> firm-minded (stubborn) in his decision making. I'm not sure how this

> personality typing relates to AS and NTs. Perhaps it does and maybe

> not. For some reason, I remembered this Personality Typing test and

> wondered if it applied to or was affected by Aspergers.

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> Isn't it possible that NTs also dream some productive dreams? That

> this just might be a characteristic among all types of people and

> personalities?

Oh yes. Just, as I've said so many times here and elsewhere, it's much

more common among autists and " gifted " people. It's pretty common among

NT(?) mathematicians, etc.

I'm very familiar with the Briggs Myers tests, and similar. Took a

*real* hard look at them some years ago when I was trying to explain

myself to me. She's quite a woman. Do you know her history?

As to " are you sure you're not AS? " That was meant as a sort-of half-of

a joke.

Most Aspergians at least are far more NT-ish than some here give us

credit for.

Social? I'm social; just a lot less than others.

Like you, I too " prefer small groups " . My ideal is my wife and me

and two more couples. *Max* of six people, or I get real grumpy .

- Bill, 75, AS

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WD " Bill " Loughman - Berkeley, California USA

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Verleen wrote:

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>>OR... You *sure* you're not AS?

>> I do the nocturnal solutions thing all the time. Almost every

>

> night.

>

>> Did as a child, and do it today. Full visuals: rooms, desks, tools,

>>books, paper - everything. In color.

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>>- Bill, 75, AS; ...this one's mind *never* shuts off.

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> Bill, I too dream in color and the dreams are vivid. I rarely dream

> the 'solution' dream since I've retired. I think I need a real

> problem to instigate this type of dreaming. Just guessing here. Most

> of my dreams are about saving someone or something. I'm a big hero in

> my dreams <grin>. I use to fly in my dreams but these ended when I

> became disabled. It was a great ability to have in my dreams as I

> could escape whatever it was and save myself and the person or animal

> I was saving. I only remember a dream when I awake in the middle of

> it and make a point of immediately thinking about it (ie. moving the

> subconscious to the conscious). Verleen

Fascinating. I could have written what you just did, ...with extensions

and flourishes. Except if I'm saving anyone, it's always me. Not as

bad as it sounds: The rare other people in there with me all are OK,

always. *I'm* the one being chased or falling off cliffs.

On the other hand, I rarely dream now; ...recallable that is. *That's*

a whole 'nother story.

- Bill, 75, AS

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WD " Bill " Loughman - Berkeley, California USA

http://home.earthlink.net/~wdloughman/wdl.htm