LCAT Supervision Requirements

[Guest guest]

Hello all,

I am attempting to apply for my limited permit and am receiving mixed reviews on

who can

actually supervise me during the transition from permit to liscense. I am a

Dance/Movement

Therapist and have an off site ADTR supervisor, but need more hours. I actually

have an

onsite LCAT at work who is willing to supervise me, however she is an Art

Therapist. The

application and most LCAT's I have spoken with say that this is ok, so long as I

am receiving

the supervision requirements under the ADTA standards. However, I recently saw

and email

stating otherwise. Can someone please clarify this for me. As having on-site

supervision is

very important to me not only because it is on site, but also because it is free

and

unfortunately I don't currently have enought money to pay for an additional

supervisor.

Thank you!!

Lamphear

[Guest guest]

Hello and everyone, You can absolutely get supervision hours towards earning your license from any on site LCAT. The thing I would like to warn you about is counting your experience hours. I am under the impression that you can not count working or supervision hours until the day you have your permit in your hand, and then only from the supervisor listed on the permit- no retroactive supervision hours or work hours. Please, if anyone has had a different experience, let me know. Keenan, MPS, limited permit holder (!)

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Hello and and everyone,

There is one caveat. After reading 's original email, in a panic I

called the office and

after what seemed like an endless wait, was able to speak with someone in person

who

explained the law a little more clearly in reference to those in a limited

permit situation.

You are right that the supervision hours must be by the person you listed on

your

application from your facility. However, if you applied for your permit in 2006

and were

able to obtain it in 2006, you ARE able to use hours counted retroactively

before you

actually obtained the permit if employed by certain programs that fall under the

guidelines

of the sunset provision as per article 163 of the law:

Note: Sunset provision for individuals employed by certain programs

Section 17-a of chapter 676 of the Laws of 2002, as amended by section 1 of

chapter 419

of the Laws of 2003, provides: " Nothing in this act shall prohibit or limit the

activities or

services on the part of any person in the employ of a program or service

operated,

regulated, funded, or approved by the department of mental hygiene or the office

of

children and family services, or a local government unit as that term is defined

in article

41 of the mental hygiene law or a social services district as defined in section

61 of the

social services law, provided, however, this section shall not authorize the use

of any title

authorized pursuant to article 153 or 163 of the education law, except as

otherwise

provided by such articles, except that this section shall be deemed repealed on

January 1,

2010. "

It later then goes on to say under the sunset provision that:

" the provisions of such article 163 requiring a license or limited permit to

practice under

such article shall not be enforced until January 1, 2007 with respect to any

individual who

applied for a license pursuant to the provisions of subdivision 2 of section

8411 of the

education law, unless such individual has otherwise been denied a license

thereunder. "

So basically (in English!), this was explained to mean that if you work in such

a location,

and were able to obtain permit in hand before the end of 2006, you can count

hours

retroactively without problem. In my case, I applied for my permit in June of

2006 after

getting a job at a city hospital and obtained it a whopping 6 months later in

December of

2006. So technically, I was told that I AM able to count those retroactive

hours because I

was still exempt as per the sunset provisions of article 163 of the law. The

person who I

spoke with also explained hypothetically that if I hadn't received my permit

until say,

February, I would NOT be able to count January hours, but that I still could

count hours

from 2006 when I was in the exempt status.

Certainly no good reason could be given as to why 2007 applicants are penalized

for the

extremely slow processing of their applications. It seems to me that applicants

should be

allowed to count hours from the date application is received if the permit is

eventually

issued. (Don't they have one of those " RECEIVED " date stamp thingys?)

Nonetheless, if anyone is in a similar situation to me (received permit in 2006

& worked in

an exempt facility), hope this helps calm your anxiety.

Good luck to everyone in this process!

Beers, MA, CCLS (and soon to be LCAT!!!)

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> Hello and everyone,

> You can absolutely get supervision hours towards earning your license from

any on site

LCAT. The thing I would like to warn you about is counting your experience

hours. I am

under the impression that you can not count working or supervision hours until

the day

you have your permit in your hand, and then only from the supervisor listed on

the

permit- no retroactive supervision hours or work hours. Please, if anyone has

had a

different experience, let me know.

> Keenan, MPS, limited permit holder (!)

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