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Dipotassium Glycymhizinate = Licorice extract (one of the chemicals in it)

The liquorice plant is a perennial schrub native to the Mediterranean regions,

central to southern Russia, Middle East, southeast Asia. Liquorice is one of the

most widely used medicinal herbs across the world, and broadly used especially

in almost all Chinese herbal formulas. Liquorice of commerce and medicine mainly

consists of the sweet roots from three species officially recognized by Chinese

pharmacopoeia: Glycyrrhiza glabra, G. inflata, or G. uralensis.

I would check your local herb store - if you can't find it there,

http://www.liquorice.org/ might be able to assist you.

Rich

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I was wondering if anyone could tell me something about the following

ingredients, like are they natural and where one buys them?

I have done a search on the net but what I found I really don't

understand. Here are the ingredients:

Dipotassium Glycymhizinate

Hexatidine, this is the way it is spelled on the label I am looking at

but in my search the only thing I found was Hexetidine

Triclosan

I really need someone a lot smarter then me to find out what these

are!!

Thanks

Boni

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Triclosan is an " antibacterial " ingredient and I *highly* doubt it is

natural.

Merin

http://www.goodcleansoap.com

Selfishness is not living as one wishes to live, it is asking others to live

as one wishes to live. -- Wilde

> Hi Again

> Thanks Rich for the information and site URL about the Liquorice. I

> am still looking for info on the Hexetidine and the Triclosan. I have

> found some info on the Triclosan but I am still not sure if it is

> natural (I don't think it is) and I don't know where to get it. As I

> said before I would welcome any info I can get on these two

> ingredients.

> Thanks Again

> Boni

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Hi Merin and Boni,

I have been following this thread and I want to pose a question to you and

anyone who might be able to shed some light here. In my research there has

been contradictory information regarding Triclosan. What I would like to

know is if using Triclosan would have a greater anti-bacterial effect over

using an essential oil like tea tree. I am not asking about a 1:1

comparison, but rather if I were to use Tea Tree in any safe amount, could I

get the same effect as if I had used the Triclosan? I hope this makes sense.

..... :-S

Thanks,

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----- Original Message -----

> Triclosan is an " antibacterial " ingredient and I *highly* doubt it is

> natural.

>

> Merin

>>

> > Hi Again

> > Thanks Rich for the information and site URL about the Liquorice. I

> > am still looking for info on the Hexetidine and the Triclosan. I have

> > found some info on the Triclosan but I am still not sure if it is

> > natural (I don't think it is) and I don't know where to get it. As I

> > said before I would welcome any info I can get on these two

> > ingredients.

> > Thanks Again

> > Boni

>

[Guest guest]

, you might want to discuss antibacterial products with

your doctor next time you see him. There was a call about

1.5 - 2 years back from the AMA for industry to stop making

anti-bacterial soaps and lotions because the ingredients did not

kill all bacterial and they believe that this is one of the reasons

we now have *superbugs* that do not respond to present day

anti-biotics. That and the fact many doctor prescribe anti-biotics

like they are candy just because it makes the patient feel better

and gets them off their back.

Soap alone will kill all of the necessary bacteria on the hands

if one uses frictions (rubbing) with the hand washing. the just of

the article is that soap kept the good and bad bacteria's in balance,

and the antibacteria products disturbed the balance and were not

as effective as soap and friction so some bacteria lived and mutated.

Dee ><{{{> ><{{{> ><{{{>

http: www.hpsoapbook.com

----- Original Message -----

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if I were to use Tea Tree in any safe amount, could I

> get the same (antibacterial) effect as if I had used the Triclosan? I

hope this makes sense.> .... :-S>

> Thanks,

>

[Guest guest]

>What I would like to

>know is if using Triclosan would have a greater anti-bacterial effect over

>using an essential oil like tea tree. I am not asking about a 1:1

>comparison, but rather if I were to use Tea Tree in any safe amount, could I

>get the same effect as if I had used the Triclosan? I hope this makes sense.

You should know that antibacterial products are regulated by the FDA as

Over-The-Counter (OTC) drugs.

Tea Tree Oil is not an approved active ingredient therefore you could not sell

an antibacterial product that used Tea Tree Oil as an active ingredient.

For more information, you should visit the CosmeticInfo files area and go into

the US_Regs folder

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Cosmeticinfo/files/US_Regs/

and you'll see a zipped text file called TFM for Topical Antimicrobial Drug

Products.zip

Maurice

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Maurice O. Hevey

Convergent Cosmetics, Inc.

http://www.ConvergentCosmetics.com

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Hey Maurice,

I was not looking to sell this product, it is more for a few family members who

asked if I can make something that would work like the anti-bacterial soaps they

buy in the store. See, I have a few gallons of liquid soap concentrates from

Chemron and since I do not plan on adding them to my line, they asked if I can

make this for them. :-)

Thanks,

www.RoseValleySoaps.com - Hand Crafted Bath & Body Products

*^* Join our Affiliate Program and earn 20% or more an all sales! *^*

----- Original Message -----

You should know that antibacterial products are regulated by the FDA as

Over-The-Counter (OTC) drugs.

Tea Tree Oil is not an approved active ingredient therefore you could not sell

an antibacterial product that used Tea Tree Oil as an active ingredient.

For more information, you should visit the CosmeticInfo files area and go into

the US_Regs folder

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Cosmeticinfo/files/US_Regs/

and you'll see a zipped text file called TFM for Topical Antimicrobial Drug

Products.zip

Maurice

[Guest guest]

>Soap alone will kill all of the necessary bacteria on the hands

>if one uses frictions (rubbing) with the hand washing.

I think it would be more accurate to say " Soap alone will " remove most

bacteria " on the hands if one uses frictions (rubbing) with the hand

washing " .

I haven't seen any data that would make be believe that soap alone is

antibacterial.

That being said, I/family do not use any antibacterial lotions or

cleansers.

I believe soap or syndets, when used properly, are effective at

removing most microorganisms that may be on my hands.

Maurice

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Maurice O. Hevey

Convergent Cosmetics, Inc.

http://www.ConvergentCosmetics.com

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I am new to this group and have bronchiectasis and copd for years now. Was wondering if anyone else gets sick for months on end w/coughing, fever and antibiotics don't seem to do a thing to help. I'm now going into the 3rd month of this and it gets harder/longer each time in occurs

Hello Margaret. I am also new to this, and know others could help you more than me. Do you have a Nebulizer at home ? Would that help ?.....also could someone explain the difference to me between bronchitis and bronchiectasis ...

Judy and Dave Muska

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My understanding of bronchitis is that it is an inflammation of the airways leading to the lungs. Bronchiectasis is damaged airways in the lungs which allow bacteria to grow and make life absolutely miserable for us.

I wish that I knew how to fight the constant infections.

Barb.......I'm sorry I'm asking so many questions, but this is so new to me. I don't know if I have bronchitis or bronchiectasis......all I know is I nearly died 3 weeks ago, from not being able to breath. I stayed in the hospital on steroids and antibiotics for 4 days. I have been home now almost 3 weeks. I immediately stopped smoking, and have not had to use my nebulizer . My dr. said only use it if I need it. I live in fear my breath will just stop again. so I don't really know what I have. Did you smoke .......do you feel smoking is the main cause of all this ?

Judy and Dave Muska

Registered Quality Boer Goats

Registered LGD's

Central Texas

bouncinghoofs.com/LazyJ.html

Goat Emergency

http:goat911.com

" Boer, Kiko, Spanish, FAINTER, goat . . . no matter what you call it, it's the HEALTHY red meat. "

"The Boer Goat...the Arnold Schwarzenegger of the goat world " tm

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Hi Margaret,

Welcome to this group. You will get information and support here. I am 69 years old and was diagnosed with bronchiectasis three years ago. I started having bad sinus infections about seven years before that. I asked my primary care doctor to refer me to an allergist. The allergist said that I was allergic to mold and dust mites. I started allergy shots, and they have helped some with the allergies. He prescribed medications to treat my allergies. Every time I would go to see the allergist or primary care doctor when I felt achy, bad headache, coughing etc., they would always ask, "What antibiotic can you take?" I said, "I can take all of them, but every few months I am sick again." Then I was diagnosed with asthma and bronchitis. My doctors all said that after I had sinus surgery, then my lung problems would be better. I asked my primary care doctor if he would refer me to a pulmonary doctor. He would say, "No, not yet." After two bouts of walking pneumonia within six months, I had a CT scan and was finally sent to a pulmonary doctor. He performed a bronchoscopy and then the diagnosis of bronchiectasis was confirmed. Finally I had the first sinus surgery. The ear, nose and throat surgeon cultured my sinuses after the surgery and the bacteria, pseudomonas, was colonized in my sinuses. He sent me to an infectious disease doctor, and she said that a colonization of a bacteria meant that it was only present but not an infection at that time. Six months later, the ear, nose and throat surgeon had to go back in and reduce the size of one my turbinates during surgery. At that time the pseudomonas bacteria was an infection. I have been fighting this battle ever since with hospitalizations and now with an inhaled antibiotic the last two weeks of each month. I use a nebulizer and a machine called the vest. The website is: www.thevest.com.

The National Jewish Research Medical Center in Denver is a good website to check out. I believe it is www.nationaljewish.org. I am sure that there are others who can give you more information about the differences between and bronchitis and bronchiectasis. I am rather shaky tonight as I am on prednisone for acute asthma, and it affects my heart condition and I cannot sleep. I am also on an antibiotic for bronchitis (or possibly bronchiectasis). The prednisone gives me bad side effects, so please excuse any typos, etc.

Norma

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Barb,

That was an excellent description in a few words.

Thanks for your help.

Norma

[Guest guest]

Judy,

I just noticed that you mentioned central Texas in your email. I also live in central Texas. I am originally from the Midwest but moved here about 21 years ago. I live north of Austin.

Again, welcome to this group.

Norma

[Guest guest]

Hi Norma.....I am 80 miles south of Austin......In Schulenburg.

Judy and Dave Muska

Registered Quality Boer Goats

Registered LGD's

Central Texas

bouncinghoofs.com/LazyJ.html

Goat Emergency

http:goat911.com

" Boer, Kiko, Spanish, FAINTER, goat . . . no matter what you call it, it's the HEALTHY red meat. "

"The Boer Goat...the Arnold Schwarzenegger of the goat world " tm

Pro-God

Pro-American

Pro.Bush

[Guest guest]

Welcome

to the new members. My

understanding of bronchitis is that it is an inflammation of the airways

leading to the lungs. Bronchiectasis is damaged airways in the lungs which allow

bacteria to grow and make life absolutely miserable for us.

I wish that I knew how to fight the

constant infections. I’m

fighting my third in the last two months.

Barb

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In a message dated 12/15/2003

9:20:10 AM Central Standard Time, dwellingplaceministries@... writes:

I am new to this group and have

bronchiectasis and copd for years now. Was wondering if anyone else gets

sick for months on end w/coughing, fever and antibiotics don't seem to do a

thing to help. I'm now going into the 3rd month of this and it gets

harder/longer each time in occurs

Hello Margaret. I am also new to this, and know others could

help you more than me. Do you have a Nebulizer at home ? Would that

help ?.....also could someone explain the difference to me between bronchitis

and bronchiectasis ...

Judy and Dave Muska

Registered Quality Boer Goats

Registered LGD's

Central Texas

bouncinghoofs.com/LazyJ.html

Goat Emergency

http:goat911.com

" Boer, Kiko, Spanish, FAINTER, goat . . . no matter what you

call it, it's the HEALTHY red meat. "

" The Boer Goat...the Arnold Schwarzenegger of the goat world

" tm

Pro-God

Pro-American

Pro.Bush

[Guest guest]

I have heard so many times in this group that this disease is just a nuisance

I have only been on this group about a week and I have also heard that......its just a "nuisance"....

I do not call not being able to breathe......feeling like you are literally smothering to death.......................a nuisance.

I do not call living in fear constantly that it will happen again...........a nuisance.

Judy and Dave Muska

Registered Quality Boer Goats

Registered LGD's

Central Texas

bouncinghoofs.com/LazyJ.html

Goat Emergency

http:goat911.com

" Boer, Kiko, Spanish, FAINTER, goat . . . no matter what you call it, it's the HEALTHY red meat. "

"The Boer Goat...the Arnold Schwarzenegger of the goat world " tm

Pro-God

Pro-American

Pro.Bush

[Guest guest]

Norma,

You mentioned that when the weather is warm & humid you are able to get more mucus up. Have you ever tried using steam prior to coughing up the mucus? Prior to my postural drainage to loosen the mucus & help to get it flowing I breathe steam from one of those facial misters, a baby bottle warmer works too as I have one of those also. I drape a small hand towel over the mister from my nose down & breathe the steam 15 minutes after having taken 1 puff of albuterol to help open the airways. After the 15 minutes of breathing the steam I take another puff of albuterol and then start postural drainage and coughing. The steam really helps to get the mucus flowing for me. This procedure was recommended to me by an old friend who was & is a pulmonary specialist but is now an associate professor of medicine at the University of Illinois School of Medicine......................................Nona

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Maggie,

I have been on Alprazolam (generic for Xanax) for a number of years due to my heart and anxiety problem. I am also on Neurontin which also helps with anxiety. I have taken Ambien before when I broke my right shoulder a few years ago. I only got about five hours of sleep with it and felt hungover the next morning. The physician's assistant in my pulmonary doctor's office said that I could stop the Prednisone since I was almost finished with it anyway and it was giving me so many problems. I took one tablet today and will the one half tomorrow and will be finished. The next time I will ask for the shot even though that it is not good for my osteoporosis.

I start on my inhaled Tobramycin tomorrow for two weeks. Of course, that will not help with the asthma. The next time it is windy, I will just stay in the house. I took a long nap this afternoon. I am staying up now since I just took my oral antibiotic and cannot lie down for 30 minutes.

Thanks for your suggestion.

Norma

[Guest guest]

I will say "Amen" to your comment about .

Norma

[Guest guest]

Maggie,

We got the whole package, didn't we?

Norma

[Guest guest]

Nona,

I have a Vicks Personal Steam Inhaler that I used when I was working. I kept it on my desk. It is similar to the facial steam inhaler. I did have one of those that I used for my dry facial skin a few years ago. When I worked at the state health department, a number of the employees used those facial steam inhalers. I will get my Vicks Personal Steam Inhaler and try that. I never do use Vicks in it. It is made by the Vicks Company. It must be good information since it came from someone at the University of Illinois. I graduated from Southern Illinois University, and I know that the University of Illinois has a good medical school. When we went to Chicago to see our son and daughter in August, my husband was afraid that I would get sick up there. We stayed at the Marriott at Medical City across the street from the University of Illinois at Chicago Hospital and Rush Presbyterian Hospital. I told my husband that if I get sick just carry my luggage across the street and call our son or daughter to pick him up and he could stay with one of them until I recovered.

Thanks for the tip. I do not like to use a vaporizer since they need to be kept exceptionally clean or they can grow bacteria. I also find it helpful to get in the shower and built up a lot of steam before or after my treatment or any other time.

Norma

[Guest guest]

Judy,

That is what I plan to tell my pulmonologist when I see him in February.

Norma

[Guest guest]

Norma,

When you inhale the steam you want to get it like when people used to cover their head with a towel over the hot water boiling on the water t.v. ads. That is the way I use to do it when I had a cold - before the modern steam producers. LOL I don't like to cover my head cause I cannot see or do anything so like I said I just drape from bridge of nose down to bottom of the inhaler - thus trapping the steam so I get good whiffs of it. Sometimes I have to adjust my nose position because the steam gets hot if I am down to close to it but you get use to it. I find it also helps if my chest feels tight to breath it for a while. l had ask my specialist here about it one time and she said it was not necessary because this area is so humid. However, after seeing my friend and discussing my condition with him he told me to go back, tell her I saw him, give her his credentials and tell her his recommendations. He also said he would rather I got off Serevent then use albuterol as it dissipates (sp) whereas he believes the Serevent powder collects in the system. I did and after discussing it all she agreed - said give it a try see how it works, if it works continue it certainly cannot hurt. However she disagreed about going off Serevent. Anyhow that is the "rest of the story".

Nona

[Guest guest]

Norma,

Let it all out. It'll definitely make you feel better. Don't worry

about complaining. That's really all I do on this site is boo-hoo,

unlike who is a wealth of information and a blessing to us all.

Bless you, !

Maggie

You know I've thought about requesting a handicapped sticker for my

car. Do you think I'll get it

On Tuesday, December 16, 2003, at 01:25 PM, nor236@... wrote:

> ,

>  

> I have heard so many times in this group that this disease is just a

> nuisance.  I cannot go to church, to the stores, travel, am sick

> almost constantly and it seems more than that to me.  When my

> pulmonary doctor first diagnosed me with bronchiectasis, I asked him

> what bronchiectasis was.  He literally threw a chronic bronchitis

> brochure at me since they did not have one on bronchiectasis and said,

> " Oh, it is just a nuisance. "   Then I called my state's American Lung

> Association office and talked to the director of medical affairs.  She

> gave me a lot of literature on this disease and still communicates

> with me via email.  She told me that it was a lifestyle changing

> disease.  I realize, like you said, that we all have this in different

> degrees of severity.  I tried to get disability from the state health

> department where I worked, but my pulmonologist said that I was not

> disabled with this disease although ! he asked me to use a nebulizer

> four times a day.  Where can anyone work who can do two breathing

> treatments at work during the day?  I certainly could not do that

> at my job.

>  

> I am sure that in many instances this disease is hard to diagnose and

> as I have read in many emails, a lot of us were treated for allergies,

> asthma and sinusitis when this disease also existed with it.

>  

> I hope this makes sense.  I am still going off the prednisone, and we

> are having a windy cold day here, so my chest is getting tight--time

> for another breathing treatment and antibiotic.

>  

> As always, I appreciate your knowledge of this disease and support.  I

> am sorry to be a complainer again today.

>  

> Best Regards,

> Norma

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Norma,

For lack of sleep, due to all the medications and coughing, plus being

a mother of a 10 and 2 year old, my doctor prescribed Ambien. It's a

sleeping pill, and I was weary of adding another pill to my regimen,

but sleep is just so priceless. The world is such a different place

with a good nights sleep. Maybe you should try it.

Maggie

On Tuesday, December 16, 2003, at 02:11 PM, nor236@... wrote:

> The prednisone is making me so shaky.  The longer I take this

> medicine, the worse I feel.  It lowers one's immune system especially

> when one cannot get enough rest. 

[Guest guest]

Hi Norma,

I would be very interested in your opinion re the Vicks Personal Steam Inhaler as I am considering purchasing one. Does anybody else use it and find it effective? The info on their website says it provides relief of nasal, sinus and chest congestion, coughs and parched throat. It just works on tap water.

Thanks

Elaine

Re: Re: Information

Nona,

I have a Vicks Personal Steam Inhaler that I used when I was working. I kept it on my desk. It is similar to the facial steam inhaler. I did have one of those that I used for my dry facial skin a few years ago. When I worked at the state health department, a number of the employees used those facial steam inhalers. I will get my Vicks Personal Steam Inhaler and try that. I never do use Vicks in it. It is made by the Vicks Company. It must be good information since it came from someone at the University of Illinois. I graduated from Southern Illinois University, and I know that the University of Illinois has a good medical school. When we went to Chicago to see our son and daughter in August, my husband was afraid that I would get sick up there. We stayed at the Marriott at Medical City across the street from the University of Illinois at Chicago Hospital and Rush Presbyterian Hospital. I told my husband that if I get sick just carry my luggage across the street and call our son or daughter to pick him up and he could stay with one of them until I recovered.

Thanks for the tip. I do not like to use a vaporizer since they need to be kept exceptionally clean or they can grow bacteria. I also find it helpful to get in the shower and built up a lot of steam before or after my treatment or any other time.

Norma