Guest guest Posted June 21, 2002 Report Share Posted June 21, 2002 In a message dated 6/21/02 12:58:29 AM Eastern Daylight Time, duncanmcdowell@... writes: > Mark my words, one day there will be a story similar to this about > the mercury in dental fillings and the damage it has done to so many > people's health. > Interesting article Duncan! I had all my teeth pulled 15 years ago and my gums still carry the dark marks from the mercury fillings, as of now I worry about the tuna I eat and have cut some on it and thinking of giving it up for good, what a shame what a terrible thing we did to the environment in the name of the dollar. Putting it in vaccines???? again done in the name of money. my dog just had his bortatello shot, thank you for the info Gwen Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 21, 2002 Report Share Posted June 21, 2002 , Sorry to hear about your daughter. This whole business makes a person so mad, its a wonder that more people don't walk in someplace and shoot somebody. When these powerful people who are in high places in the government or in pharmaceutical companies know about it for years and let it continue, doing untold harm to children, that is horrible. What is ADHD? How did you treat it yourself at home? It sounds like the treatment would be mercury detox with chelation and cleanses. I did include a link to the story in my post, but in case the link won't work for you, you can go to www.txcn.com and fill in the search box with " Thimerosal hearings " . Thats how I found it. This is not ABC news, it is Texas Cable News. One thing that is so sad is that if you don't get your child vaccinated then they will not allow the child to attend school. The doctors inject the children with mercury (thimerosal) in vaccines, and then the dentists will implant mercury fillings in their teeth. Did you know that mercurochrome and merthiolate, disposable diapers, murine eye drops, preparation-H, and baking powder are some of the products containing mercury? Some of them used to contain mercury, but no longer do. Look for 'mer' or 'mur' in the product name, and it will sometimes give you a clue that it has mercury in it. It is used as a fungicide and preservative. It is also used in the majority of all cosmetics. The link to the FDA thimerosal report is at http://www.fda.gov/cber/vaccine/thimerosal.htm Another news report, that is much worse and scarier than the one copied below is at http://www.wfaa.com/localnews/investigates/stories/wfaa020520_am_vaccine.666583b\ ..html For those who can not get the link to work, I will attach the entire news report below: =========================================== Congressman questions officials at Thimerosal hearings 06/20/2002 By VALERI WILLIAMS / WFAA-TV A United States congressman is calling for criminal penalties for any government agency that knew about the dangers of Thimerosal in vaccines, and did nothing to protect American children. Last month, a News 8 Investigation disclosed allegations that some government officials may have surpressed documentation about the risks. Some of those officials testified at Wednesday's congressional hearing. News 8 research showed that the FDA began asking questions about the dangers of Thimerosal back in 1972. By 1992, the preservative had been pulled out of dog vaccines and contact lens solutions because of the risks. However, it remained in vaccines for children until last year. Government health officials squirmed uncomfortably in their seats Wednesday as more evidence emerged suggesting that they misled the public. " You mean to tell me that since 1929, we've been using Thimerosal, " Congressman Dan Burton (R-Indiana) said to the officials, " and the only test that you know of is from 1929, and every one of those people had mennigitis, and they all died? " For nearly an hour, Burton repeatedly asked FDA and CDC officials what they knew and when they knew it. And when memories seemed to be a bit fuzzy, the congressman produced old memos as a refresher. One memo, from 1999, states that the FDA had an " interim plan ... already in place for many years " to get rid of Thimerosal. The same e-mail also addresses the FDA's fear that it will be accused by the public of being " asleep at the switch for decades, by allowing a dangerous compound to remain in childhood vaccines " . Burton has proposed bringing criminal charges if it's proven the government agencies were involved in a cover-up. " Look, I don't think it makes any difference whether it's a private company or a government agency, " Burton said. " If they know they're harming somebody and they continue to let it happen, then they should be held accountable. " Government accountability is something that parents of autistic children have been asking for for years. Earp, 7, had lost his ability to talk by age three, and his mercury levels were off the charts. His parents said 's only exposure to mercury was through his vaccines. Today, he has all the classic signs of autism, such as repeatedly hitting himself, and fixating on such things as a spinning chair. 's mother Kristi Earp has a dream that one day will call her " mommy " in a sentence. " I probably have that dream once a week that he's speaking to me. It would be wonderful, " Earp said. Parents like Earp would like to ask the panel of government officials why, in eighty years, they never ordered one clinical test on the effects of Thimerosal in vaccines. Burton asked the question several times Wednesday, but never got a direct answer. After the hearing, News 8 asked the same question of an official, walking briskly down a corridor. " You have to call the press office, " an assistant replied. Burton has a personal stake in the growing scandal: he said his grandson became autistic a few days after receiving nine innoculations. Thus far, within the government, Burton has been a minority voice, but he has subpoena power, and he keeps threatening to use it. " So what you do is keep making the case, and keep trying to get the message out to a broader and broader audience so that people start saying 'Why?', " Burton said. " When enough people say 'Why?', change starts to take place. " ====================== There are several good autism discussion groups. One is at http://groups.yahoo.com/group/autism_and_vaccinations Duncan __________________________________________________ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 23, 2002 Report Share Posted June 23, 2002 DEAR ALL. does anyone out there KNOW if the present formula for metal fillings is recent , oris the same formula first thoght of in 1673 during the reign of CHARLES II? - see THIS WEEKS HAILO mag in SATURDAYS 'Daily Mail'- All the best Elaine P.S. I'm curious because countries such as DENMARK HAVE amalgam-free fillings >From: gpbb44@... >Reply-To: mscured >To: mscured >Subject: Re: Thimererosal & the FDA Cover-up >Date: Fri, 21 Jun 2002 10:39:56 EDT > >In a message dated 6/21/02 12:58:29 AM Eastern Daylight Time, >duncanmcdowell@... writes: > > > > Mark my words, one day there will be a story similar to this about > > the mercury in dental fillings and the damage it has done to so many > > people's health. > > > >Interesting article Duncan! > >I had all my teeth pulled 15 years ago and my gums still carry the dark >marks >from the mercury fillings, as of now I worry about the tuna I eat and have >cut some on it and thinking of giving it up for good, what a shame what a >terrible thing we did to the environment in the name of the dollar. > >Putting it in vaccines???? again done in the name of money. > >my dog just had his bortatello shot, thank you for the info >Gwen > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 26, 2002 Report Share Posted June 26, 2002 HI Elaine, The ADA (American Dental Association) claim that amalgam dental fillings must be safe because it is the same formula that they have been using for the past 150 years, so no research is needed into the health affects (safety) of this material. Their justification is that if the mercury in these fillings made people sick, everyone would be sick. Amalgam material is called silver fillings by the dentists and is made from 50% mercury mixed with copper powder, silver powder, and a few other things. All silver colored fillings contain mercury, which is poison. Options to silver amalgam (mercury) fillings are gold and composite material. Composites are white and match the tooth color so you can't see them after they are installed. These are used for actors, models, and other people who want their teeth to look pretty in pictures, and by health conscious people because these materials are relatively non-toxic compared to mercury fillings. Composites are a mixture of resin and plastic and look like a natural part of the tooth. If you don't know where they are you can't see them. The drawback to composites are that they cost a little more and take longer to install, and if the dentist does not use the proper technique when he installs them, then they may not last, may fall out, or may cause the tooth to be sensitive for a while. Gold and composites are available in this country, but most dentists don't like to use them because they take longer and are more trouble to put in. The only thing toxic about composites is that the plastic can give off some hydrocarbon residue, which is pretty minor compared to mercury, which is poison. If you ask for composite fillings and the dentist objects, find a new dentist. It is usually because he doesn't know how to do them properly. When composites were first invented the material was soft and the filling would only last a few years and then had to be replaced. But now they have new composite material that will last a long long time if the dentist installs them properly. However, most dentists who aren't good at placing composites will tell you that they aren't any good because they don't last as long as amalgams. This is not true if he knows how to do it right. Duncan --- Elaine wrote: > DEAR ALL. > does anyone out there KNOW if the present > formula for metal fillings > is recent , oris the same formula first thoght of in > 1673 > during the reign of CHARLES II? __________________________________________________ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 26, 2002 Report Share Posted June 26, 2002 HI Elaine, The ADA (American Dental Association) claim that amalgam dental fillings must be safe because it is the same formula that they have been using for the past 150 years, so no research is needed into the health affects (safety) of this material. Their justification is that if the mercury in these fillings made people sick, everyone would be sick. Amalgam material is called silver fillings by the dentists and is made from 50% mercury mixed with copper powder, silver powder, and a few other things. All silver colored fillings contain mercury, which is poison. Options to silver amalgam (mercury) fillings are gold and composite material. Composites are white and match the tooth color so you can't see them after they are installed. These are used for actors, models, and other people who want their teeth to look pretty in pictures, and by health conscious people because these materials are relatively non-toxic compared to mercury fillings. Composites are a mixture of resin and plastic and look like a natural part of the tooth. If you don't know where they are you can't see them. The drawback to composites are that they cost a little more and take longer to install, and if the dentist does not use the proper technique when he installs them, then they may not last, may fall out, or may cause the tooth to be sensitive for a while. Gold and composites are available in this country, but most dentists don't like to use them because they take longer and are more trouble to put in. The only thing toxic about composites is that the plastic can give off some hydrocarbon residue, which is pretty minor compared to mercury, which is poison. If you ask for composite fillings and the dentist objects, find a new dentist. It is usually because he doesn't know how to do them properly. When composites were first invented the material was soft and the filling would only last a few years and then had to be replaced. But now they have new composite material that will last a long long time if the dentist installs them properly. However, most dentists who aren't good at placing composites will tell you that they aren't any good because they don't last as long as amalgams. This is not true if he knows how to do it right. Duncan --- Elaine wrote: > DEAR ALL. > does anyone out there KNOW if the present > formula for metal fillings > is recent , oris the same formula first thoght of in > 1673 > during the reign of CHARLES II? __________________________________________________ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 27, 2002 Report Share Posted June 27, 2002 When I was a kid I had many silver amalgam fillings and still have quite a few in my mouth. I was diagnosed with mild MS in 1996; when I went to my dentist in 1997 and they found out I was diagnosed with " early signs of MS " and he had to do fillings, he made sure he used the composites and didn't even ask my opinion. It was like " oh, you have MS, we better use these... " I find that odd that if there is NO relation between mercury amalgams and MS, and they are so safe, why would he have said that??? Makes me so angry. I do need to get the old mercury fillings removed but I'm worried about the costs. I'll ask my dentist what it will cost but I think I'll go to a special dentist to have them replaced. I found a website with a list of mercury free dentists: http://www.altcorp.com/hgfreedentists.htm Donna in Calgary, AB http://www.donnasjourney.com Re: Thimererosal & the FDA Cover-up HI Elaine, The ADA (American Dental Association) claim that amalgam dental fillings must be safe because it is the same formula that they have been using for the past 150 years, so no research is needed into the health affects (safety) of this material. Their justification is that if the mercury in these fillings made people sick, everyone would be sick. Amalgam material is called silver fillings by the dentists and is made from 50% mercury mixed with copper powder, silver powder, and a few other things. All silver colored fillings contain mercury, which is poison. Options to silver amalgam (mercury) fillings are gold and composite material. Composites are white and match the tooth color so you can't see them after they are installed. These are used for actors, models, and other people who want their teeth to look pretty in pictures, and by health conscious people because these materials are relatively non-toxic compared to mercury fillings. Composites are a mixture of resin and plastic and look like a natural part of the tooth. If you don't know where they are you can't see them. The drawback to composites are that they cost a little more and take longer to install, and if the dentist does not use the proper technique when he installs them, then they may not last, may fall out, or may cause the tooth to be sensitive for a while. Gold and composites are available in this country, but most dentists don't like to use them because they take longer and are more trouble to put in. The only thing toxic about composites is that the plastic can give off some hydrocarbon residue, which is pretty minor compared to mercury, which is poison. If you ask for composite fillings and the dentist objects, find a new dentist. It is usually because he doesn't know how to do them properly. When composites were first invented the material was soft and the filling would only last a few years and then had to be replaced. But now they have new composite material that will last a long long time if the dentist installs them properly. However, most dentists who aren't good at placing composites will tell you that they aren't any good because they don't last as long as amalgams. This is not true if he knows how to do it right. Duncan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 27, 2002 Report Share Posted June 27, 2002 When I was a kid I had many silver amalgam fillings and still have quite a few in my mouth. I was diagnosed with mild MS in 1996; when I went to my dentist in 1997 and they found out I was diagnosed with " early signs of MS " and he had to do fillings, he made sure he used the composites and didn't even ask my opinion. It was like " oh, you have MS, we better use these... " I find that odd that if there is NO relation between mercury amalgams and MS, and they are so safe, why would he have said that??? Makes me so angry. I do need to get the old mercury fillings removed but I'm worried about the costs. I'll ask my dentist what it will cost but I think I'll go to a special dentist to have them replaced. I found a website with a list of mercury free dentists: http://www.altcorp.com/hgfreedentists.htm Donna in Calgary, AB http://www.donnasjourney.com Re: Thimererosal & the FDA Cover-up HI Elaine, The ADA (American Dental Association) claim that amalgam dental fillings must be safe because it is the same formula that they have been using for the past 150 years, so no research is needed into the health affects (safety) of this material. Their justification is that if the mercury in these fillings made people sick, everyone would be sick. Amalgam material is called silver fillings by the dentists and is made from 50% mercury mixed with copper powder, silver powder, and a few other things. All silver colored fillings contain mercury, which is poison. Options to silver amalgam (mercury) fillings are gold and composite material. Composites are white and match the tooth color so you can't see them after they are installed. These are used for actors, models, and other people who want their teeth to look pretty in pictures, and by health conscious people because these materials are relatively non-toxic compared to mercury fillings. Composites are a mixture of resin and plastic and look like a natural part of the tooth. If you don't know where they are you can't see them. The drawback to composites are that they cost a little more and take longer to install, and if the dentist does not use the proper technique when he installs them, then they may not last, may fall out, or may cause the tooth to be sensitive for a while. Gold and composites are available in this country, but most dentists don't like to use them because they take longer and are more trouble to put in. The only thing toxic about composites is that the plastic can give off some hydrocarbon residue, which is pretty minor compared to mercury, which is poison. If you ask for composite fillings and the dentist objects, find a new dentist. It is usually because he doesn't know how to do them properly. When composites were first invented the material was soft and the filling would only last a few years and then had to be replaced. But now they have new composite material that will last a long long time if the dentist installs them properly. However, most dentists who aren't good at placing composites will tell you that they aren't any good because they don't last as long as amalgams. This is not true if he knows how to do it right. Duncan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 5, 2002 Report Share Posted August 5, 2002 DEAR Duncan, Sorry not to have replied to your message before . Can you think of any other medical or surgical treatment that is thought to be SAFE in the same format as 150 years ago?How unbelievably arrogant! thanks for INFO Elaine > >Reply-To: mscured >To: mscured >Subject: Re: Thimererosal & the FDA Cover-up >Date: Wed, 26 Jun 2002 15:31:59 -0700 (PDT) > >HI Elaine, >The ADA (American Dental Association) claim that >amalgam dental fillings must be safe because it is the >same formula that they have been using for the past >150 years, so no research is needed into the health >affects (safety) of this material. Their >justification is that if the mercury in these fillings >made people sick, everyone would be sick. Amalgam >material is called silver fillings by the dentists and >is made from 50% mercury mixed with copper powder, >silver powder, and a few other things. All silver >colored fillings contain mercury, which is poison. > >Options to silver amalgam (mercury) fillings are gold >and composite material. Composites are white and >match the tooth color so you can't see them after they >are installed. These are used for actors, models, and >other people who want their teeth to look pretty in >pictures, and by health conscious people because these >materials are relatively non-toxic compared to mercury >fillings. Composites are a mixture of resin and >plastic and look like a natural part of the tooth. If >you don't know where they are you can't see them. The >drawback to composites are that they cost a little >more and take longer to install, and if the dentist >does not use the proper technique when he installs >them, then they may not last, may fall out, or may >cause the tooth to be sensitive for a while. > >Gold and composites are available in this country, but >most dentists don't like to use them because they take >longer and are more trouble to put in. The only thing >toxic about composites is that the plastic can give >off some hydrocarbon residue, which is pretty minor >compared to mercury, which is poison. > >If you ask for composite fillings and the dentist >objects, find a new dentist. It is usually because he >doesn't know how to do them properly. > >When composites were first invented the material was >soft and the filling would only last a few years and >then had to be replaced. But now they have new >composite material that will last a long long time if >the dentist installs them properly. However, most >dentists who aren't good at placing composites will >tell you that they aren't any good because they don't >last as long as amalgams. This is not true if he >knows how to do it right. > >Duncan > > >--- Elaine wrote: > > DEAR ALL. > > does anyone out there KNOW if the present > > formula for metal fillings > > is recent , oris the same formula first thoght of in > > 1673 > > during the reign of CHARLES II? > >__________________________________________________ > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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