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In a message dated 6/21/02 12:58:29 AM Eastern Daylight Time,

duncanmcdowell@... writes:

> Mark my words, one day there will be a story similar to this about

> the mercury in dental fillings and the damage it has done to so many

> people's health.

>

Interesting article Duncan!

I had all my teeth pulled 15 years ago and my gums still carry the dark marks

from the mercury fillings, as of now I worry about the tuna I eat and have

cut some on it and thinking of giving it up for good, what a shame what a

terrible thing we did to the environment in the name of the dollar.

Putting it in vaccines???? again done in the name of money.

my dog just had his bortatello shot, thank you for the info

Gwen

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Sorry to hear about your daughter. This whole

business makes a person so mad, its a wonder that more

people don't walk in someplace and shoot somebody.

When these powerful people who are in high places in

the government or in pharmaceutical companies know

about it for years and let it continue, doing untold

harm to children, that is horrible.

What is ADHD? How did you treat it yourself at home?

It sounds like the treatment would be mercury detox

with chelation and cleanses.

I did include a link to the story in my post, but in

case the link won't work for you, you can go to

www.txcn.com and fill in the search box with

" Thimerosal hearings " . Thats how I found it. This is

not ABC news, it is Texas Cable News.

One thing that is so sad is that if you don't get your

child vaccinated then they will not allow the child to

attend school. The doctors inject the children with

mercury (thimerosal) in vaccines, and then the

dentists will implant mercury fillings in their teeth.

Did you know that mercurochrome and merthiolate,

disposable diapers, murine eye drops, preparation-H,

and baking powder are some of the products containing

mercury? Some of them used to contain mercury, but no

longer do. Look for 'mer' or 'mur' in the product

name, and it will sometimes give you a clue that it

has mercury in it. It is used as a fungicide and

preservative. It is also used in the majority of all

cosmetics.

The link to the FDA thimerosal report is at

http://www.fda.gov/cber/vaccine/thimerosal.htm

Another news report, that is much worse and scarier

than the one copied below is at

http://www.wfaa.com/localnews/investigates/stories/wfaa020520_am_vaccine.666583b\

..html

For those who can not get the link to work, I will

attach the entire news report below:

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Congressman questions officials at Thimerosal hearings

06/20/2002

By VALERI WILLIAMS / WFAA-TV

A United States congressman is calling for criminal

penalties for any government agency that knew about

the dangers of Thimerosal in vaccines, and did nothing

to protect American children.

Last month, a News 8 Investigation disclosed

allegations that some government officials may have

surpressed documentation about the risks. Some of

those officials testified at Wednesday's congressional

hearing.

News 8 research showed that the FDA began asking

questions about the dangers of Thimerosal back in

1972. By 1992, the preservative had been pulled out of

dog vaccines and contact lens solutions because of the

risks.

However, it remained in vaccines for children until

last year.

Government health officials squirmed uncomfortably in

their seats Wednesday as more evidence emerged

suggesting that they misled the public.

" You mean to tell me that since 1929, we've been using

Thimerosal, " Congressman Dan Burton (R-Indiana) said

to the officials, " and the only test that you know of

is from 1929, and every one of those people had

mennigitis, and they all died? "

For nearly an hour, Burton repeatedly asked FDA and

CDC officials what they knew and when they knew it.

And when memories seemed to be a bit fuzzy, the

congressman produced old memos as a refresher.

One memo, from 1999, states that the FDA had an

" interim plan ... already in place for many years " to

get rid of Thimerosal.

The same e-mail also addresses the FDA's fear that it

will be accused by the public of being " asleep at the

switch for decades, by allowing a dangerous compound

to remain in childhood vaccines " .

Burton has proposed bringing criminal charges if it's

proven the government agencies were involved in a

cover-up.

" Look, I don't think it makes any difference whether

it's a private company or a government agency, " Burton

said. " If they know they're harming somebody and they

continue to let it happen, then they should be held

accountable. "

Government accountability is something that parents of

autistic children have been asking for for years.

Earp, 7, had lost his ability to talk by age

three, and his mercury levels were off the charts. His

parents said 's only exposure to mercury was

through his vaccines.

Today, he has all the classic signs of autism, such as

repeatedly hitting himself, and fixating on such

things as a spinning chair.

's mother Kristi Earp has a dream that one day

will call her " mommy " in a sentence.

" I probably have that dream once a week that he's

speaking to me. It would be wonderful, " Earp said.

Parents like Earp would like to ask the panel of

government officials why, in eighty years, they never

ordered one clinical test on the effects of Thimerosal

in vaccines.

Burton asked the question several times Wednesday, but

never got a direct answer.

After the hearing, News 8 asked the same question of

an official, walking briskly down a corridor.

" You have to call the press office, " an assistant

replied.

Burton has a personal stake in the growing scandal: he

said his grandson became autistic a few days after

receiving nine innoculations.

Thus far, within the government, Burton has been a

minority voice, but he has subpoena power, and he

keeps threatening to use it.

" So what you do is keep making the case, and keep

trying to get the message out to a broader and broader

audience so that people start saying 'Why?', " Burton

said. " When enough people say 'Why?', change starts to

take place. "

======================

There are several good autism discussion groups. One

is at

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/autism_and_vaccinations

Duncan

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DEAR ALL.

does anyone out there KNOW if the present formula for metal fillings

is recent , oris the same formula first thoght of in 1673

during the reign of CHARLES II? - see THIS WEEKS HAILO mag in SATURDAYS

'Daily Mail'-

All the best

Elaine

P.S. I'm curious because countries such as DENMARK HAVE amalgam-free

fillings

>From: gpbb44@...

>Reply-To: mscured

>To: mscured

>Subject: Re: Thimererosal & the FDA Cover-up

>Date: Fri, 21 Jun 2002 10:39:56 EDT

>

>In a message dated 6/21/02 12:58:29 AM Eastern Daylight Time,

>duncanmcdowell@... writes:

>

>

> > Mark my words, one day there will be a story similar to this about

> > the mercury in dental fillings and the damage it has done to so many

> > people's health.

> >

>

>Interesting article Duncan!

>

>I had all my teeth pulled 15 years ago and my gums still carry the dark

>marks

>from the mercury fillings, as of now I worry about the tuna I eat and have

>cut some on it and thinking of giving it up for good, what a shame what a

>terrible thing we did to the environment in the name of the dollar.

>

>Putting it in vaccines???? again done in the name of money.

>

>my dog just had his bortatello shot, thank you for the info

>Gwen

>

>

>

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HI Elaine,

The ADA (American Dental Association) claim that

amalgam dental fillings must be safe because it is the

same formula that they have been using for the past

150 years, so no research is needed into the health

affects (safety) of this material. Their

justification is that if the mercury in these fillings

made people sick, everyone would be sick. Amalgam

material is called silver fillings by the dentists and

is made from 50% mercury mixed with copper powder,

silver powder, and a few other things. All silver

colored fillings contain mercury, which is poison.

Options to silver amalgam (mercury) fillings are gold

and composite material. Composites are white and

match the tooth color so you can't see them after they

are installed. These are used for actors, models, and

other people who want their teeth to look pretty in

pictures, and by health conscious people because these

materials are relatively non-toxic compared to mercury

fillings. Composites are a mixture of resin and

plastic and look like a natural part of the tooth. If

you don't know where they are you can't see them. The

drawback to composites are that they cost a little

more and take longer to install, and if the dentist

does not use the proper technique when he installs

them, then they may not last, may fall out, or may

cause the tooth to be sensitive for a while.

Gold and composites are available in this country, but

most dentists don't like to use them because they take

longer and are more trouble to put in. The only thing

toxic about composites is that the plastic can give

off some hydrocarbon residue, which is pretty minor

compared to mercury, which is poison.

If you ask for composite fillings and the dentist

objects, find a new dentist. It is usually because he

doesn't know how to do them properly.

When composites were first invented the material was

soft and the filling would only last a few years and

then had to be replaced. But now they have new

composite material that will last a long long time if

the dentist installs them properly. However, most

dentists who aren't good at placing composites will

tell you that they aren't any good because they don't

last as long as amalgams. This is not true if he

knows how to do it right.

Duncan

--- Elaine wrote:

> DEAR ALL.

> does anyone out there KNOW if the present

> formula for metal fillings

> is recent , oris the same formula first thoght of in

> 1673

> during the reign of CHARLES II?

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HI Elaine,

The ADA (American Dental Association) claim that

amalgam dental fillings must be safe because it is the

same formula that they have been using for the past

150 years, so no research is needed into the health

affects (safety) of this material. Their

justification is that if the mercury in these fillings

made people sick, everyone would be sick. Amalgam

material is called silver fillings by the dentists and

is made from 50% mercury mixed with copper powder,

silver powder, and a few other things. All silver

colored fillings contain mercury, which is poison.

Options to silver amalgam (mercury) fillings are gold

and composite material. Composites are white and

match the tooth color so you can't see them after they

are installed. These are used for actors, models, and

other people who want their teeth to look pretty in

pictures, and by health conscious people because these

materials are relatively non-toxic compared to mercury

fillings. Composites are a mixture of resin and

plastic and look like a natural part of the tooth. If

you don't know where they are you can't see them. The

drawback to composites are that they cost a little

more and take longer to install, and if the dentist

does not use the proper technique when he installs

them, then they may not last, may fall out, or may

cause the tooth to be sensitive for a while.

Gold and composites are available in this country, but

most dentists don't like to use them because they take

longer and are more trouble to put in. The only thing

toxic about composites is that the plastic can give

off some hydrocarbon residue, which is pretty minor

compared to mercury, which is poison.

If you ask for composite fillings and the dentist

objects, find a new dentist. It is usually because he

doesn't know how to do them properly.

When composites were first invented the material was

soft and the filling would only last a few years and

then had to be replaced. But now they have new

composite material that will last a long long time if

the dentist installs them properly. However, most

dentists who aren't good at placing composites will

tell you that they aren't any good because they don't

last as long as amalgams. This is not true if he

knows how to do it right.

Duncan

--- Elaine wrote:

> DEAR ALL.

> does anyone out there KNOW if the present

> formula for metal fillings

> is recent , oris the same formula first thoght of in

> 1673

> during the reign of CHARLES II?

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When I was a kid I had many silver amalgam fillings and still have quite a few

in my mouth. I was diagnosed with mild MS in 1996; when I went to my dentist in

1997 and they found out I was diagnosed with " early signs of MS " and he had to

do fillings, he made sure he used the composites and didn't even ask my opinion.

It was like " oh, you have MS, we better use these... " I find that odd that if

there is NO relation between mercury amalgams and MS, and they are so safe, why

would he have said that??? Makes me so angry. I do need to get the old

mercury fillings removed but I'm worried about the costs. I'll ask my dentist

what it will cost but I think I'll go to a special dentist to have them

replaced. I found a website with a list of mercury free dentists:

http://www.altcorp.com/hgfreedentists.htm

Donna in Calgary, AB

http://www.donnasjourney.com

Re: Thimererosal & the FDA Cover-up

HI Elaine,

The ADA (American Dental Association) claim that

amalgam dental fillings must be safe because it is the

same formula that they have been using for the past

150 years, so no research is needed into the health

affects (safety) of this material. Their

justification is that if the mercury in these fillings

made people sick, everyone would be sick. Amalgam

material is called silver fillings by the dentists and

is made from 50% mercury mixed with copper powder,

silver powder, and a few other things. All silver

colored fillings contain mercury, which is poison.

Options to silver amalgam (mercury) fillings are gold

and composite material. Composites are white and

match the tooth color so you can't see them after they

are installed. These are used for actors, models, and

other people who want their teeth to look pretty in

pictures, and by health conscious people because these

materials are relatively non-toxic compared to mercury

fillings. Composites are a mixture of resin and

plastic and look like a natural part of the tooth. If

you don't know where they are you can't see them. The

drawback to composites are that they cost a little

more and take longer to install, and if the dentist

does not use the proper technique when he installs

them, then they may not last, may fall out, or may

cause the tooth to be sensitive for a while.

Gold and composites are available in this country, but

most dentists don't like to use them because they take

longer and are more trouble to put in. The only thing

toxic about composites is that the plastic can give

off some hydrocarbon residue, which is pretty minor

compared to mercury, which is poison.

If you ask for composite fillings and the dentist

objects, find a new dentist. It is usually because he

doesn't know how to do them properly.

When composites were first invented the material was

soft and the filling would only last a few years and

then had to be replaced. But now they have new

composite material that will last a long long time if

the dentist installs them properly. However, most

dentists who aren't good at placing composites will

tell you that they aren't any good because they don't

last as long as amalgams. This is not true if he

knows how to do it right.

Duncan

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When I was a kid I had many silver amalgam fillings and still have quite a few

in my mouth. I was diagnosed with mild MS in 1996; when I went to my dentist in

1997 and they found out I was diagnosed with " early signs of MS " and he had to

do fillings, he made sure he used the composites and didn't even ask my opinion.

It was like " oh, you have MS, we better use these... " I find that odd that if

there is NO relation between mercury amalgams and MS, and they are so safe, why

would he have said that??? Makes me so angry. I do need to get the old

mercury fillings removed but I'm worried about the costs. I'll ask my dentist

what it will cost but I think I'll go to a special dentist to have them

replaced. I found a website with a list of mercury free dentists:

http://www.altcorp.com/hgfreedentists.htm

Donna in Calgary, AB

http://www.donnasjourney.com

Re: Thimererosal & the FDA Cover-up

HI Elaine,

The ADA (American Dental Association) claim that

amalgam dental fillings must be safe because it is the

same formula that they have been using for the past

150 years, so no research is needed into the health

affects (safety) of this material. Their

justification is that if the mercury in these fillings

made people sick, everyone would be sick. Amalgam

material is called silver fillings by the dentists and

is made from 50% mercury mixed with copper powder,

silver powder, and a few other things. All silver

colored fillings contain mercury, which is poison.

Options to silver amalgam (mercury) fillings are gold

and composite material. Composites are white and

match the tooth color so you can't see them after they

are installed. These are used for actors, models, and

other people who want their teeth to look pretty in

pictures, and by health conscious people because these

materials are relatively non-toxic compared to mercury

fillings. Composites are a mixture of resin and

plastic and look like a natural part of the tooth. If

you don't know where they are you can't see them. The

drawback to composites are that they cost a little

more and take longer to install, and if the dentist

does not use the proper technique when he installs

them, then they may not last, may fall out, or may

cause the tooth to be sensitive for a while.

Gold and composites are available in this country, but

most dentists don't like to use them because they take

longer and are more trouble to put in. The only thing

toxic about composites is that the plastic can give

off some hydrocarbon residue, which is pretty minor

compared to mercury, which is poison.

If you ask for composite fillings and the dentist

objects, find a new dentist. It is usually because he

doesn't know how to do them properly.

When composites were first invented the material was

soft and the filling would only last a few years and

then had to be replaced. But now they have new

composite material that will last a long long time if

the dentist installs them properly. However, most

dentists who aren't good at placing composites will

tell you that they aren't any good because they don't

last as long as amalgams. This is not true if he

knows how to do it right.

Duncan

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DEAR Duncan,

Sorry not to have replied to your message before . Can you think

of any other medical or surgical treatment that is thought to be

SAFE in the same format as 150 years ago?How unbelievably arrogant!

thanks for INFO

Elaine

>

>Reply-To: mscured

>To: mscured

>Subject: Re: Thimererosal & the FDA Cover-up

>Date: Wed, 26 Jun 2002 15:31:59 -0700 (PDT)

>

>HI Elaine,

>The ADA (American Dental Association) claim that

>amalgam dental fillings must be safe because it is the

>same formula that they have been using for the past

>150 years, so no research is needed into the health

>affects (safety) of this material. Their

>justification is that if the mercury in these fillings

>made people sick, everyone would be sick. Amalgam

>material is called silver fillings by the dentists and

>is made from 50% mercury mixed with copper powder,

>silver powder, and a few other things. All silver

>colored fillings contain mercury, which is poison.

>

>Options to silver amalgam (mercury) fillings are gold

>and composite material. Composites are white and

>match the tooth color so you can't see them after they

>are installed. These are used for actors, models, and

>other people who want their teeth to look pretty in

>pictures, and by health conscious people because these

>materials are relatively non-toxic compared to mercury

>fillings. Composites are a mixture of resin and

>plastic and look like a natural part of the tooth. If

>you don't know where they are you can't see them. The

>drawback to composites are that they cost a little

>more and take longer to install, and if the dentist

>does not use the proper technique when he installs

>them, then they may not last, may fall out, or may

>cause the tooth to be sensitive for a while.

>

>Gold and composites are available in this country, but

>most dentists don't like to use them because they take

>longer and are more trouble to put in. The only thing

>toxic about composites is that the plastic can give

>off some hydrocarbon residue, which is pretty minor

>compared to mercury, which is poison.

>

>If you ask for composite fillings and the dentist

>objects, find a new dentist. It is usually because he

>doesn't know how to do them properly.

>

>When composites were first invented the material was

>soft and the filling would only last a few years and

>then had to be replaced. But now they have new

>composite material that will last a long long time if

>the dentist installs them properly. However, most

>dentists who aren't good at placing composites will

>tell you that they aren't any good because they don't

>last as long as amalgams. This is not true if he

>knows how to do it right.

>

>Duncan

>

>

>--- Elaine wrote:

> > DEAR ALL.

> > does anyone out there KNOW if the present

> > formula for metal fillings

> > is recent , oris the same formula first thoght of in

> > 1673

> > during the reign of CHARLES II?

>

>__________________________________________________

>

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