No More Literature?

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Writes:"Anita you seem to be grasping a tall the literature and making generalisations and challenging people,when it suits you, to proveyou wrong, and then you enjoy the combative phase of the sequence ofevents you incite. try understanding what your talking about."Anita Responds:There have been several pieces of literature posted on the listover the last week alone. Each article, position, theory can bediscussed here, yes? Much of the recent literature here could be somewhat polarizing, which is why I don't respond to it. At this point, all I'd like to do is understand the basic literature otherwise it's like flying by the seat of the pants. Our marriage has been flying by the seat of its pants for a long time. My husband doesn't like it and neither do I anymore.AS on this list talk about data and literature all the time. I assumeAS uses the data they provide to illustrate the points they aretrying to make about AS. I cite the literature to illustrate myunderstanding of AS. Seems AS and NT "interpret" the literature verydifferently. This isn't a contest . I don't think I'm right or wrong, nor doI think you are right or wrong. You used the word "incite." Ibelieve that word is exactly what happens when an NT and an AS attemptto talk to each other. It "incites" a whole lot of things because thecommunication is very different for each and perhaps you think I amtrying to challenge what you have come to know about yourself. Quite the contrary, I am trying to take what you know and apply it to what isgoing on in my life. Since no two AS are the same, please be benevolent and understand whatever you tell me is what you experienced and whatworks for you. There are things AS on the list discuss that I've never seenmy husband do at all. Trust me when I say we read all the posts together, and he and I talk about what might "fit" for my husband and what might not.If you understand that, you also understand that there are going to be postsfrom me, hopefully from my husband himself directly, that say certain thingsdo not fit. That doesn't mean you're wrong, it means your brand of AS doesn't fit.You admonished me to to "understand what I'm talking about"....I can't know exactly what I'm talking about until I attempt to flesh out as much variation on the theme as I can. If there is one thing I've totally learned, it's that AS has a zillionvariants! I'm almost confused as to why the AS on the list are advising not to relyon data now. It has been my understanding that data, statistics, research documents and the like are specifically what AS tends to use in communication nay prefers to use. Hmmmmmm. The circular Venn diagrams are probably what you are referring to when you talk about autism as a circle.Those diagrams are extra-ordinarily academic. They may work conversationally for over the topstatisticians and researchers. (Which is why I keep thinking AS would p refer a data driven conversation, rather than an emotional one.) The circular diagram, which I think is what you were speaking of is this one: This diagram may work perfectly for some people. I, on the other hand amhard pressed to understand the relationship of one thing to another with such a diagram. If this isn't the diagram you were referring to, please post the one you mean, I'd love to see it, perhaps others would as well. The diagram below runs left to right, not a circle. It's easy to understand and is used in much of the literature. My understanding of this diagram is that at the furthest right of it is perhaps related to my question, "is AS an inch or a kilometer from NT?" The question is not answerable because there is no data, no literature, no information as to the neurology, thus nobody knows. It is my understanding varying degrees of autism move to the rightalong that line until the criteria is met for Asperger's (nodelay in speech, etc. but exhibiting Asperger diagnosticcharacteristics and accompanying neurology). The absence of thosecharacteristics and neurology would indicate an NT, I'm told by professionals. I want to be clear about my understanding, NT's can have problems interacting with other people, for sure, but they do not have the coupling of Asperger characteristics *and* accompanying neurology. The neurological aspect has been cited to me as the defining diagnostic area. I see little discussion here about neurology. Perhaps it would be helpful? Regards,Anita 55 NT