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Just so pat can understand, steve, what difference do you see between "now" and "what is?"

~pat

pat,

are you seriously open to my ideas, or are you using the form of inquiry to battle my ideas and promote those you believe? your tone sounds condescending, and passive aggressive.

please tell me if i am wrong or right in this estimation.

the difference between tolle's power of now, and katie's what is, is to me also the line of demarcation for those who pursue enlightenment, self realization, union with god, etc.

the difference as i see it, is do we find god, etc., through stripping down all that we are, all that we think we are, to find what is at bottom, what is left when all things are gone, or do we find a nice philosophy, a nice religion, a nice structure that inspires us, to live in?

steve

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