new here

[Guest guest]

I have ordered from the web & the phone and have always received my tapes

in 3 - 4 days.

At 09:28 AM 9/16/2000 EDT, you wrote:

>

>In a message dated 9/16/00 9:25:14 AM Eastern Daylight Time,

>katrid1424@... writes:

>

><< Yes, I ordered off the web last night. I was sort of hesitant

> about putting my cc# out there, but I've done it with Amazon before, so I

> thought it would be o.k. I sure hope it comes soon! I'm very excited. I

>am

> starting a new workout rotation today, (it was supposed to be

> yesterday.....but you know my problem!) >>

>

>The web site is usually pretty quick, I think... I would expect it in a week

>or two! What is the powekicks tape like? Who is the instructor?

>

>

>As Deb has said: " Fitness is a journey and it begins with the first step. "

>

>Visit our new vault site http://taeboon.isportsdot.com/

>

>

[Guest guest]

By the way, where are you going on your trip?

[Guest guest]

>By the way, where are you going on your trip?

>

Spain and Paris!!! I have never been that far. I live in Honduras and the

most I do is trips up to Louisiana, Arkansas and Florida! I am not all

that excited about the 9+ hours over there (wish I could say " Beam me up,

y " ) but the rest of the trip will be just fantastic! I leave

September 30th. I am taking my 8 minute tape with me in the hopes that I

can at least get that in once in awhile.

Joya

[Guest guest]

: Thanks so much for the warm welcome and motivational advice. And

with that, I'm going to go workout and get out of my weekend slump!! (I've

done great with the eating today though).

Kim

[Guest guest]

In a message dated 09/16/2000 10:47:26 AM Eastern Daylight Time,

katrid1424@... writes:

> Oh no!! The tapes are different?!?! How come?

The Tae-Bo folks changed the AL1, AL2, AL3 and BL1 with no warning nor

explanation

we figured it out comparing 's clothes

Barb

who thinks from the descriptions BL10 should have been the new BL1

[Guest guest]

> I am new to this egroup, and I'm hoping to give and GET support

from this

> group with exercise.

Kim,

Welcome to the group! You've come to the right place for support and

motivation....you'll get tons of it here Unfortunately, " falling

off the wagon " happens a lot! The key is not to let it completely

throw you off track. If you slip up, whether it be eating too much

junk or not exercising, just start over right away! The key is to

not let one " off " day turn into a week of " off " days! And, make sure

you allow yourself to indulge every now and then. I really believe

that moderation is the biggest key to success And one of the best

things about WW is that it allows you to eat anything you want (in

moderation)! One thing I would advise is to go ahead and take your

measurements, so you can keep track of the inches you lose! One of

the only things that I dislike about WW is that the only means they

use to track your progress is weightloss! Lots of times, people build

muscle, while losing inches....which doesn't always show on the

scale! Anyway, good luck with both WW and tae-bo! I hope you get

your new tae-bo tape quickly Check out e-bay for some of the live

tapes! Sometimes you can get a really good deal...just make sure you

don't bid too high and end up paying more than you would new (that

happens sometimes, believe it or not)! I look forward to hearing

more from you

[Guest guest]

It really is a good workout, but you have to ignore the two

background girls who are doing the workout with him. They are horrible!

Lol. I forgot about the Powerkicks tape. I have ti and you are right those girls

are bad!!!!!! I think you should either have a whole class or just the

instructor sometimes because when you have two or three assistants that don't

know what they are doing you don't focus as much on the instructor. Its a

good tape for anyone who has a bag but I wouldnt pay more than 5-6$ for it. I

use to use it once a week but now I have SOOOOOOO many tapes.

Who bought Austin's Swinging to the big band tape for a buck yesterday

and thought of Barb. I love swing music so sorry. I'll give you the reviews

later this week.

[Guest guest]

It seems like it usually returns for most people when they quit SSRIs.

But it probably depends on how long you've been on them. I think the

incidence of PSSD increases significantly if you've been on them for

more than six months. Though some people have succumbed in as little

as a few days or weeks. How long have you been on cymbalta?

Vornan

>

> Hi, I have been reading alotta posts here and i thought after

> discontinuance of meds (if i ever stopped them)my libido would

> return.Is there any incentive to quit ssri,since thats not likely the

> case?.I mean i can at least keep my misery at bay with meds rather

then

> quitting them.I have been taking zoloft for 2 and half years with

> wellbutrin.My np recomended taking cymbalta to restore my function

but

> it hasnt happened yet.

>

[Guest guest]

Hi Steph,

Many kids have symptoms of ADD with the OCD, but don't have the separate

diagnosis, yet others do. I don't know how they really can distinguish.

Sometimes the symptoms mimic other disorders.The school says my daughter has

ADHD, when in actuality she has never been diagnosed with that, but she has

symptoms of it.

Worrisome thoughts are a hallmark of OCD, because it causes them so much

anxiety.Yes, puberty can make it so much worse, because you are throwing all the

mood swings in there.

When you get some time, research, research, research.Try to ge tone of the books

I suggested, they really help to explain things. Everyone on here can relate to

what you are going through. Ask as many questions as you need to!!!!

Hang in there~

Hugs

Judy

[Guest guest]

Hi Steph and welcome. Looks like Judy has given you some good books

to check out. Have you found the ocfoundation.org website yet. The

have a lot of information about treatment for OCD. You can also

check the " files " (look for Dr Geller's treatment practices, think

it's called) and " links " on this site.

From what I understand some do have ADD and OCD together, but some

once diagnosed with the OCD find the attention issues stemmed from

the OCD. Time will tell perhaps. I would mention this possibility

as it might influence choice of meds.

Puberty definitely seems to be a common time when OCD shows up or

increases, esp with boys I think. Seems to be when many find the

challenges mushroom.

The worrisome thoughts are a type of OCD generally called bad

thoughts or obsessions. As well anxiety, worry, fears are just all

part of it. Most are more familiar with germs, counting, checking

forms, but the thoughts are a big part of it for many I think. The

rituals/compulsions are what people do to try to manage the

thoughts.

What is needed is to learn to not respond to the thought in any way,

just to allow it to be there and realize it is a " false alarm " from

the brain. Easier said than done, of course! But it is

called " habituation " , where you learn to tolerate the anxiety that

comes up around the obsessions and to not respond with

compulsions/rituals.

Others have already mentioned that it is the the anti depressant

medications that have been shown to work for OCD. Sometimes one does

not help but another does, same with any side effects. Just have to

start with one and try it to see, as it is an individual thing. If

you have any family members who have taken these medications and have

been helped it is helpful to know this and often this is the one you

start with.

Also, it is usually the higher doses that work for OCD, but some are

helped with lower, ours is one of them. As Judy says since you start

low and increase slowly (three weeks is best I was told) you can

watch to see the effect. Good to keep a diary to see positive or

negative and track it so you can tell the doctor.

It generally takes three months once you reach the optimal dose for

full effect, sometimes longer. Ours responded quickly, a sign that

it would help, but also had increase in OCD and behavioral stuff.

This is usually temporary and settles down within a couple of weeks -

good to know to expect this and not think the medication is making it

worse.

However, it is ERP based CBT(challenging the thoughts/fears) that

truly helps someone conquer the OCD, the medication can assist the

process and help reduce the intensity of the OCD.

Keep posting your questions and asking for the support you need. Not

sure where you are at with all of it, the beginning point can be so

overwhelming esp if it is severe. Know that your son can get better,

it just may take some time to get all the pieces in place.

Warmly,

Barb

Canada

Son 17, LD, OCD - doing well now!

>

> no I havent read any books yet I will defintely check those out. I

> am still trying to figure out everything. I dont know anything

about

> anti depressants or actually any kind of meds associated with

this.

> I do know that ever since my son was in kindergarten every teacher

> has asked me if he was ADD. they tested him this year in 7th grade

> and they said he wasnt. I dont know if OCD and ADD goes hand and

> hand? I just want to educate myself before the 19th so when they

> decide to put him on a certain med I will atleast know what will

> happen. Is it normal for kids with OCD to have worrisome

thoughts?

> does puberty make it show up more?

>

[Guest guest]

thank you all for your replies, they are really helping.  I am gonna check those

links out when i get home from work and have more time.  It is encouraging to

know that meds will enable hime to be the same and not make him a " zombie " .

 

steph

Subject: Re: new here

To:

Date: Thursday, February 12, 2009, 2:25 PM

Hi Steph and welcome. Looks like Judy has given you some good books

to check out. Have you found the ocfoundation. org website yet. The

have a lot of information about treatment for OCD. You can also

check the " files " (look for Dr Geller's treatment practices, think

it's called) and " links " on this site.

From what I understand some do have ADD and OCD together, but some

once diagnosed with the OCD find the attention issues stemmed from

the OCD. Time will tell perhaps. I would mention this possibility

as it might influence choice of meds.

Puberty definitely seems to be a common time when OCD shows up or

increases, esp with boys I think. Seems to be when many find the

challenges mushroom.

The worrisome thoughts are a type of OCD generally called bad

thoughts or obsessions. As well anxiety, worry, fears are just all

part of it. Most are more familiar with germs, counting, checking

forms, but the thoughts are a big part of it for many I think. The

rituals/compulsions are what people do to try to manage the

thoughts.

What is needed is to learn to not respond to the thought in any way,

just to allow it to be there and realize it is a " false alarm " from

the brain. Easier said than done, of course! But it is

called " habituation " , where you learn to tolerate the anxiety that

comes up around the obsessions and to not respond with

compulsions/ rituals.

Others have already mentioned that it is the the anti depressant

medications that have been shown to work for OCD. Sometimes one does

not help but another does, same with any side effects. Just have to

start with one and try it to see, as it is an individual thing. If

you have any family members who have taken these medications and have

been helped it is helpful to know this and often this is the one you

start with.

Also, it is usually the higher doses that work for OCD, but some are

helped with lower, ours is one of them. As Judy says since you start

low and increase slowly (three weeks is best I was told) you can

watch to see the effect. Good to keep a diary to see positive or

negative and track it so you can tell the doctor.

It generally takes three months once you reach the optimal dose for

full effect, sometimes longer. Ours responded quickly, a sign that

it would help, but also had increase in OCD and behavioral stuff.

This is usually temporary and settles down within a couple of weeks -

good to know to expect this and not think the medication is making it

worse.

However, it is ERP based CBT(challenging the thoughts/fears) that

truly helps someone conquer the OCD, the medication can assist the

process and help reduce the intensity of the OCD.

Keep posting your questions and asking for the support you need. Not

sure where you are at with all of it, the beginning point can be so

overwhelming esp if it is severe. Know that your son can get better,

it just may take some time to get all the pieces in place.

Warmly,

Barb

Canada

Son 17, LD, OCD - doing well now!

>

> no I havent read any books yet I will defintely check those out. I

> am still trying to figure out everything. I dont know anything

about

> anti depressants or actually any kind of meds associated with

this.

> I do know that ever since my son was in kindergarten every teacher

> has asked me if he was ADD. they tested him this year in 7th grade

> and they said he wasnt. I dont know if OCD and ADD goes hand and

> hand? I just want to educate myself before the 19th so when they

> decide to put him on a certain med I will atleast know what will

> happen. Is it normal for kids with OCD to have worrisome

thoughts?

> does puberty make it show up more?

>

[Guest guest]

Steph the file I was mentioning is called " Practice Parameters -OCD in

children " and is found in the " files " section on this site. It is a

really comprehensive outline of diagnosis, treatment and outcomes and

is up to date.

Barb

>

> thank you all for your replies, they are really helping.  I am gonna

check those links out when i get home from work and have more time.  It

is encouraging to know that meds will enable hime to be the same and

not make him a " zombie " .

>  

> steph

>

> portions of this message have been removed]

>

[Guest guest]

Welcome Steph. I'm sure by now you have gotten lots of responses to your post,

so I just wanted to welcome you and let you know that my daughter (11) is on

Zoloft for her OCD and Atarax for anxiety and she is anything but zombie like!

She's actually quite the character and energetic   Glad you are here, this

group can be a great support.

________________________________

To:

Sent: Thursday, February 12, 2009 5:43:20 AM

Subject: new here

Hi I would like to introduce myself.  My name is stephanie and i have two

children a daughter emily who is 15 and a son jacob who is 13.  My son is

currently going to a counsler for the past month and has been dx OCD.  Over the

years he has had little quirks as we call it but i guess over time its just

become second nature to answer him before he even asks the question.  Like when

we leave the house he will ask did you lock the door, I automatically now

without thinking will say I locked the door.  He has a nut allergy so whenever

he eats he will say does this have nuts in it.  even if its a bowl of friut.

However in Dec. he came to me and said he was hearing a voice in his head that

was bothering him.  He was worried that something bad was gonna happen and he

would turn into the tree man like we saw on tv or a mold would go in him and

would eat his face off like we had seen on tv about a man who had that

happen. because whenever he did something

or didnt do something the voice would tell him something bad will happen.  and

he has developed a tick with his eyes that he squints his eyes open and shut. 

he looks like he is pain but he doesnt even realize he is doing it.  this tick

started back in dec. when he started having these thoughts.  I took him to a

counsler to see what was going on and they have dx him OCD.  he is working on

ignoring it or he will come to me and ask me if something bad will happen we

will work out what he thinks bad will happen and the likelhood of it happening. 

He meets with a physichiastrist on the 19th and he will more then likely go on

meds.  I am worried about starting him on anti depressants b/c i dont want him

to walk around like a zombie, i want him to be the same ole jacob just not being

bothered with his thoughts and worries.  What type of meds do your all kids take

and how do they affect them?  and any suggestions you all have that will help

me, help

him?  thanks for reading this very long post and thank for any and all

suggestions! 

 

steph

[Guest guest]

I'm enjoying your posts and gaining much information from them.

Thanks for sharing on rhia topic.

Lot of questions here...so bare with me.

Son is 6th grade 12 yr old. of avg. intelligence diagnosed with OCD

and ADHD at age 8. He took celexa until he had a relapse this fall

and now is on Lexapro. We are finally treating the ADHD with low

dose of Adderrall because of his social problems at school (he has

always maintained good grades so we held off). He is in a difficult

class with lots of bullying via name calling. He even was physically

taunted and beat up on the playground right before Thanksgiving (this

led to his relapse I believe). The teachers in this 6th grade class

even comment on what a difficult class this is..they are very

disconnected with one another, mean (in a calculating way). Everyone

tells me how horrible seventh and eighth grade are and I'm freaking.

He's stuck with these same kids till graduation. It can't get much

worse for my son than it has been this year. We have him on a 504 at

school but there is so little follow up and follow through. He sees

a therapist to help him cope with the bullying and learn appropriate

social skills. He's slightly immature socially (but not horribly).

He wants relationships so badly with people that he sometimes can be

annonying (what I've been told by a teacher). He's a smart kid, in

advanced math and socializes great with adults, grandparents, nice

kids. He just doesn't seem to function in this group of kids at

school and on the playground. One kid in his class is now telling

everyone on the playground that my son has a " problem with his

brain. "

So, how many of you have tried homeschooling? We don't have another

option for a public/private school as we are rural. We are an hour

from his therapist and psychiatrist and only have one school here.

Other schools are an hour away and we live in snowy North Dakota so

driving him everyday really isn't a safe option. And believe me, we

have raised hell with the school and made minimal progress. I'm

contemplating contacting protection and advocacy except that I don't

want to cause more embarrassment to my son and we have to live and

work in this town.

My main drawback with homeschooling him is that I don't want to

enable him and set up a pattern for escaping when sometimes we need

to learn to cope and face our fears.

Oh yeah, he calls me at least once per week from school trying to get

me to pick him up. Today he called because he thinks he has a patch

of ringworm on his shoulder and he thought I should come to the

school to look at it. I told him what ringworm really is and that

chances of him having it are pretty slim since we have not come into

contact with it. Usually there has been an issue of bullying

underlying his calls home with " stomach aches " and I usually end up

hanging up on him after telling him to go back to class and cope.

Any thoughts are appreciated.

Blessings from snowy and cold northern North Dakota.

Becky