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Hey, you are very welcome :) Fantastic to hear he is doing so well!!

Natasa

>

> Hello I just thought I would post about our amazing success with

Propranolol.

>

> For as long as I can remember Josh would have episodes intense upset

and fear for no apparent reason. We could be sitting on the sofa

relaxing and all of a sudden out of no where he would start screaming

about something that had upset him months ago. Even when he was a baby

he would change from completely calm to being hysterical and

inconsolable with no apparent trigger. As josh has got older and is now

almost 6 the nature of his fears has changed. Now, In order to cope with

his anxiety and externalize his discomfort he has become fixated with

other children and has developed an extreme phobia of them.

> Since developing this phobia for the last year we have been prisoners

in our house together. Josh could not even tolerate seeing a picture of

children in a magazine or on TV without going into melt down. Needless

to say simple things like going for a walk or even to the supermarket

have been so difficult because Josh's melt downs result in him screaming

about how he wants to stab and kill the children ect ect. We live in a

small village and I live in fear of social services knocking on the

door!

> No amount of CBT of psychology input was helping and in honesty I was

totally at a loss as to what to do next.

>

> I took Josh to the Breakspear hospital to have the Autonomic Brainstem

monitoring done. This gave me a clear insight into what was occurring in

his brain and helped me see that no amount of behavioral intervention

would help and what he desperately needed was biological intervention.

> The scan showed several abnormalities which result in Josh

experiencing exaggerated variation in arterial blood flow and regular

dumps of adrenalin flooding his system at various intervals throughout

the day. That explained why he finds it so difficult to cope and also

why he gets so much sensory overload.

>

> Armed with the biological understanding of what was going on inside

Josh's body and following the recent research posted on ABE I decided to

start him on Propranolol.

> We are now two weeks in and I have to say that my son is slowly but

surely gaining the confidence he needs to re enter the world. Josh will

now play in the park with a small group of children and he even shows

empathy towards the younger ones. He is still fearful of bigger groups

and will still meltdown but his outbursts are shorter lived and are not

accompanied by the usual palpitations, sweats and dilated pupils. The

outbursts are a `conditioned fear response' and I guess to be expected

until he makes the connection that his body doesn't feel as bad anymore.

> We can now go out for a walk and to the shops and everyday his

confidence is growing little by little. Most importantly for the first

time Josh has been relaxed enough to begin learning from the outside

world. It's like he is seeing it for the first time and is able to

absorb his surroundings.

>

> A big thank you to Natasa for all your research and support :-)!! xx

>

> Lis on xx

>

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I'm glad this helped. The use of beta blockers and the alpha agonist blood

pressure medications Catapres and Tenex (also used to relieve hyperactivity and

often given to autistic children) will sometimes releive fear, which is often a

driver for aggression.

Remember, there is not a magic difference between 'natural' supplements and

'chemical' prescription drugs. The question is just which pill is going to make

your kid more comfortable and healthier. Obviously, if you want help on the NHS

it is easier to get it if it involves rolling a pill at you that requires an Rx

slip instead of one you can buy at the vitamin store - and sometimes an Rx one

really can help.

The fancy (and expensive) tests are just a way to match you up with the right

pill. If you give your kid the right pill it works whether or not they took the

test first - but often it is impossible to guess which pill to try without the

testing.

As in this case, when no behavioral therapy, reasoning, bribing, cajoling, etc.

works, the next thing to consider is a pill.

Andy

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www.noamalgam.com/nourishinghope.html

www.noamalgam.com/biologicaltreatments.html

>

> Hello I just thought I would post about our amazing success with Propranolol.

>

> For as long as I can remember Josh would have episodes intense upset and fear

for no apparent reason. We could be sitting on the sofa relaxing and all of a

sudden out of no where he would start screaming about something that had upset

him months ago. Even when he was a baby he would change from completely calm to

being hysterical and inconsolable with no apparent trigger. As josh has got

older and is now almost 6 the nature of his fears has changed. Now, In order to

cope with his anxiety and externalize his discomfort he has become fixated with

other children and has developed an extreme phobia of them.

> Since developing this phobia for the last year we have been prisoners in our

house together. Josh could not even tolerate seeing a picture of children in a

magazine or on TV without going into melt down. Needless to say simple things

like going for a walk or even to the supermarket have been so difficult because

Josh's melt downs result in him screaming about how he wants to stab and kill

the children ect ect. We live in a small village and I live in fear of social

services knocking on the door!

> No amount of CBT of psychology input was helping and in honesty I was totally

at a loss as to what to do next.

>

> I took Josh to the Breakspear hospital to have the Autonomic Brainstem

monitoring done. This gave me a clear insight into what was occurring in his

brain and helped me see that no amount of behavioral intervention would help and

what he desperately needed was biological intervention.

> The scan showed several abnormalities which result in Josh experiencing

exaggerated variation in arterial blood flow and regular dumps of adrenalin

flooding his system at various intervals throughout the day. That explained why

he finds it so difficult to cope and also why he gets so much sensory overload.

>

> Armed with the biological understanding of what was going on inside Josh's

body and following the recent research posted on ABE I decided to start him on

Propranolol.

> We are now two weeks in and I have to say that my son is slowly but surely

gaining the confidence he needs to re enter the world. Josh will now play in the

park with a small group of children and he even shows empathy towards the

younger ones. He is still fearful of bigger groups and will still meltdown but

his outbursts are shorter lived and are not accompanied by the usual

palpitations, sweats and dilated pupils. The outbursts are a `conditioned fear

response' and I guess to be expected until he makes the connection that his body

doesn't feel as bad anymore.

> We can now go out for a walk and to the shops and everyday his confidence is

growing little by little. Most importantly for the first time Josh has been

relaxed enough to begin learning from the outside world. It's like he is seeing

it for the first time and is able to absorb his surroundings.

>

> A big thank you to Natasa for all your research and support :-)!! xx

>

> Lis on xx

>

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