Guest guest Posted August 11, 2008 Report Share Posted August 11, 2008 Carruthers posted: Hi - there are several posts in the Supertraining archives that are relevant to your questions. See below: Dr Tony Shield wrote: I believe the theoretical basis for the strength deficit as a diagnostic tool is seriously flawed. As I understand it, it is assumed that those who can nearly fully activate their muscles will exhibit little difference between eccentric and isometric force while those who activate relatively poorly will exhibit a significant difference between these two measures of strength. Supposedly athletes benefit more from stimulating hypertrophy when the two measures are close and by stimulating 'neural adaptations' when the two are far apart (see Schmidtbleicher, D, 1991, Chapter 18 in Strength and power in sport, Komi (ed), Blackwell Scientific Publications). Casler writes: From what little I have seen of this theory, I might agree with Tony. While one might certainly be able to draw a relationship differential between the eccentric, concentric and static muscle action tensions, I am at a loss to see the " value " of seeking a " closer " relationship between them, and further feel that a more reasonable goal would be to cause the maximum ability to each action as per its mechanical properties. This, in fact would cause an even broader distribution of their abilities. That is, all three actions have distinct properties: 1) Concentric is a " sliding filament " 2) Static is a " locked filament " 3) Eccentric is a " forced resistance brake " If the Concentric " could be " or is trained closer in tension creation to that of the Eccentric, then that means the Eccentric is not being activated to capacity. So the goal of reducing the suggested deficit (as stated) would seem both futile and undesirable, for it would always mean that the eccentric was " lacking " ability or under-performing. Regards, Casler TRI-VECTOR 3-D Force Systems Century City, CA Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 12, 2008 Report Share Posted August 12, 2008 Dr Tony Shield wrote: > --------------As I understand it, it is > assumed that those who can nearly fully activate their muscles will > exhibit little difference between eccentric and isometric force while > those who activate relatively poorly will exhibit a significant > difference between these two measures of strength------- Telle -- do we know at what speed the eccentrics were tested and what type of isometric -- eccentric isometrics or concentric isometrics? Jerry “madscientist†Telle Lakewood CO USA Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 12, 2008 Report Share Posted August 12, 2008 Dr Tony Shield wrote: > --------------As I understand it, it is > assumed that those who can nearly fully activate their muscles will > exhibit little difference between eccentric and isometric force while > those who activate relatively poorly will exhibit a significant > difference between these two measures of strength------- Telle -- do we know at what speed the eccentrics were tested and what type of isometric -- eccentric isometrics or concentric isometrics? Jerry “madscientist†Telle Lakewood CO USA Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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