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So, should I assume that phenols are a problem and give him No Fenol or do you think the epsom salt baths would be sufficient?( He has the baths 2 out of 3 days.) I don't think he has any high phenol foods and the only fruit he has are pears. Thanks. Sue To: Autism-Biomedical-Europe Sent: Tuesday, 7 February 2012, 22:48

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That's a classic phenol reaction, a positive negative as it were, Epsom Salts doing their thing. YOu could fry and egg on my middle son Joe's it so hot, always only one

Mx

Hi everyone,I have noticed that when DS has his epsom salts bath his left ear always goes red. I would have thought that if it was just a case of him getting hot then both ears would go red. I know that red ears can be a sign of allergy but wondered why it would be happening in the bath. We use no bubble bath. Could this be an indication of anything? Could it mean that magnesium doesn't agree with him? Sorry, I know it sounds silly but it is always his left ear. Strange. Any ideas, thanks. Sue

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So, should I assume that phenols are a problem and give him No Fenol or do you think the epsom salt baths would be sufficient?( He has the baths 2 out of 3 days.) I don't think he has any high phenol foods and the only fruit he has are pears. Thanks. Sue To: Autism-Biomedical-Europe Sent: Tuesday, 7 February 2012, 22:48

Subject: Re: One red ear! ( Sorry if this is a really stupi...

That's a classic phenol reaction, a positive negative as it were, Epsom Salts doing their thing. YOu could fry and egg on my middle son Joe's it so hot, always only one

Mx

Hi everyone,I have noticed that when DS has his epsom salts bath his left ear always goes red. I would have thought that if it was just a case of him getting hot then both ears would go red. I know that red ears can be a sign of allergy but wondered why it would be happening in the bath. We use no bubble bath. Could this be an indication of anything? Could it mean that magnesium doesn't agree with him? Sorry, I know it sounds silly but it is always his left ear. Strange. Any ideas, thanks. Sue

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So, should I assume that phenols are a problem and give him No Fenol or do you think the epsom salt baths would be sufficient?( He has the baths 2 out of 3 days.) I don't think he has any high phenol foods and the only fruit he has are pears. Thanks. Sue To: Autism-Biomedical-Europe Sent: Tuesday, 7 February 2012, 22:48

Subject: Re: One red ear! ( Sorry if this is a really stupi...

That's a classic phenol reaction, a positive negative as it were, Epsom Salts doing their thing. YOu could fry and egg on my middle son Joe's it so hot, always only one

Mx

Hi everyone,I have noticed that when DS has his epsom salts bath his left ear always goes red. I would have thought that if it was just a case of him getting hot then both ears would go red. I know that red ears can be a sign of allergy but wondered why it would be happening in the bath. We use no bubble bath. Could this be an indication of anything? Could it mean that magnesium doesn't agree with him? Sorry, I know it sounds silly but it is always his left ear. Strange. Any ideas, thanks. Sue

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Does it happen at a time other than in the bath? Joe's lights up after ketchup. I would trial No Phenol, I can send you some samples

Mx

So, should I assume that phenols are a problem and give him No Fenol or do you think the epsom salt baths would be sufficient?( He has the baths 2 out of 3 days.) I don't think he has any high phenol foods and the only fruit he has are pears. Thanks. Sue

To: Autism-Biomedical-Europe Sent: Tuesday, 7 February 2012, 22:48Subject: Re: One red ear! ( Sorry if this is a really stupi...

That's a classic phenol reaction, a positive negative as it were, Epsom Salts doing their thing. YOu could fry and egg on my middle son Joe's it so hot, always only one

Mx

Hi everyone,I have noticed that when DS has his epsom salts bath his left ear always goes red. I would have thought that if it was just a case of him getting hot then both ears would go red. I know that red ears can be a sign of allergy but wondered why it would be happening in the bath. We use no bubble bath. Could this be an indication of anything? Could it mean that magnesium doesn't agree with him? Sorry, I know it sounds silly but it is always his left ear. Strange. Any ideas, thanks. Sue

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Does it happen at a time other than in the bath? Joe's lights up after ketchup. I would trial No Phenol, I can send you some samples

Mx

So, should I assume that phenols are a problem and give him No Fenol or do you think the epsom salt baths would be sufficient?( He has the baths 2 out of 3 days.) I don't think he has any high phenol foods and the only fruit he has are pears. Thanks. Sue

To: Autism-Biomedical-Europe Sent: Tuesday, 7 February 2012, 22:48Subject: Re: One red ear! ( Sorry if this is a really stupi...

That's a classic phenol reaction, a positive negative as it were, Epsom Salts doing their thing. YOu could fry and egg on my middle son Joe's it so hot, always only one

Mx

Hi everyone,I have noticed that when DS has his epsom salts bath his left ear always goes red. I would have thought that if it was just a case of him getting hot then both ears would go red. I know that red ears can be a sign of allergy but wondered why it would be happening in the bath. We use no bubble bath. Could this be an indication of anything? Could it mean that magnesium doesn't agree with him? Sorry, I know it sounds silly but it is always his left ear. Strange. Any ideas, thanks. Sue

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Does it happen at a time other than in the bath? Joe's lights up after ketchup. I would trial No Phenol, I can send you some samples

Mx

So, should I assume that phenols are a problem and give him No Fenol or do you think the epsom salt baths would be sufficient?( He has the baths 2 out of 3 days.) I don't think he has any high phenol foods and the only fruit he has are pears. Thanks. Sue

To: Autism-Biomedical-Europe Sent: Tuesday, 7 February 2012, 22:48Subject: Re: One red ear! ( Sorry if this is a really stupi...

That's a classic phenol reaction, a positive negative as it were, Epsom Salts doing their thing. YOu could fry and egg on my middle son Joe's it so hot, always only one

Mx

Hi everyone,I have noticed that when DS has his epsom salts bath his left ear always goes red. I would have thought that if it was just a case of him getting hot then both ears would go red. I know that red ears can be a sign of allergy but wondered why it would be happening in the bath. We use no bubble bath. Could this be an indication of anything? Could it mean that magnesium doesn't agree with him? Sorry, I know it sounds silly but it is always his left ear. Strange. Any ideas, thanks. Sue

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Mandi, have you tried Hellmans ketchup.  It doesn't have onions or garlic (sulphur) in the flavouring - most of them do including heinz.  Charlie's fine with hellmans. I know it could be tomato causing the problem but just a thought!

Alison R

 

Does it happen at a time other than in the bath? Joe's lights up after ketchup. I would trial No Phenol, I can send you some samples

 

Mx

 

 

So, should I assume that phenols are a problem and give him No Fenol or do you think the epsom salt baths would be sufficient?( He has the baths 2 out of 3 days.) I don't think he has any high phenol foods and the only fruit he has are pears. Thanks. Sue

To: Autism-Biomedical-Europe Sent: Tuesday, 7 February 2012, 22:48Subject: Re: One red ear! ( Sorry if this is a really stupi...

 

That's a classic phenol reaction, a positive negative as it were, Epsom Salts doing their thing. YOu could fry and egg on my middle son Joe's it so hot, always only one

 

Mx

 

 

Hi everyone,I have noticed that when DS has his epsom salts bath his left ear always goes red. I would have thought that if it was just a case of him getting hot then both ears would go red. I know that red ears can be a sign of allergy but wondered why it would be happening in the bath. We use no bubble bath. Could this be an indication of anything? Could it mean that magnesium doesn't agree with him? Sorry, I know it sounds silly but it is always his left ear. Strange. Any ideas, thanks. Sue

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Mandi, have you tried Hellmans ketchup.  It doesn't have onions or garlic (sulphur) in the flavouring - most of them do including heinz.  Charlie's fine with hellmans. I know it could be tomato causing the problem but just a thought!

Alison R

 

Does it happen at a time other than in the bath? Joe's lights up after ketchup. I would trial No Phenol, I can send you some samples

 

Mx

 

 

So, should I assume that phenols are a problem and give him No Fenol or do you think the epsom salt baths would be sufficient?( He has the baths 2 out of 3 days.) I don't think he has any high phenol foods and the only fruit he has are pears. Thanks. Sue

To: Autism-Biomedical-Europe Sent: Tuesday, 7 February 2012, 22:48Subject: Re: One red ear! ( Sorry if this is a really stupi...

 

That's a classic phenol reaction, a positive negative as it were, Epsom Salts doing their thing. YOu could fry and egg on my middle son Joe's it so hot, always only one

 

Mx

 

 

Hi everyone,I have noticed that when DS has his epsom salts bath his left ear always goes red. I would have thought that if it was just a case of him getting hot then both ears would go red. I know that red ears can be a sign of allergy but wondered why it would be happening in the bath. We use no bubble bath. Could this be an indication of anything? Could it mean that magnesium doesn't agree with him? Sorry, I know it sounds silly but it is always his left ear. Strange. Any ideas, thanks. Sue

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Never tried it but he seems OK with onion and garlic and less concentrated forms of tomato, he won;t take baths but will use the Mag sulphate cream, poof gone in 20 mins

Mx

Mandi, have you tried Hellmans ketchup. It doesn't have onions or garlic (sulphur) in the flavouring - most of them do including heinz. Charlie's fine with hellmans. I know it could be tomato causing the problem but just a thought!

Alison R

Does it happen at a time other than in the bath? Joe's lights up after ketchup. I would trial No Phenol, I can send you some samples

Mx

So, should I assume that phenols are a problem and give him No Fenol or do you think the epsom salt baths would be sufficient?( He has the baths 2 out of 3 days.) I don't think he has any high phenol foods and the only fruit he has are pears. Thanks. Sue

To: Autism-Biomedical-Europe Sent: Tuesday, 7 February 2012, 22:48Subject: Re: One red ear! ( Sorry if this is a really stupi...

That's a classic phenol reaction, a positive negative as it were, Epsom Salts doing their thing. YOu could fry and egg on my middle son Joe's it so hot, always only one

Mx

Hi everyone,I have noticed that when DS has his epsom salts bath his left ear always goes red. I would have thought that if it was just a case of him getting hot then both ears would go red. I know that red ears can be a sign of allergy but wondered why it would be happening in the bath. We use no bubble bath. Could this be an indication of anything? Could it mean that magnesium doesn't agree with him? Sorry, I know it sounds silly but it is always his left ear. Strange. Any ideas, thanks. Sue

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Never tried it but he seems OK with onion and garlic and less concentrated forms of tomato, he won;t take baths but will use the Mag sulphate cream, poof gone in 20 mins

Mx

Mandi, have you tried Hellmans ketchup. It doesn't have onions or garlic (sulphur) in the flavouring - most of them do including heinz. Charlie's fine with hellmans. I know it could be tomato causing the problem but just a thought!

Alison R

Does it happen at a time other than in the bath? Joe's lights up after ketchup. I would trial No Phenol, I can send you some samples

Mx

So, should I assume that phenols are a problem and give him No Fenol or do you think the epsom salt baths would be sufficient?( He has the baths 2 out of 3 days.) I don't think he has any high phenol foods and the only fruit he has are pears. Thanks. Sue

To: Autism-Biomedical-Europe Sent: Tuesday, 7 February 2012, 22:48Subject: Re: One red ear! ( Sorry if this is a really stupi...

That's a classic phenol reaction, a positive negative as it were, Epsom Salts doing their thing. YOu could fry and egg on my middle son Joe's it so hot, always only one

Mx

Hi everyone,I have noticed that when DS has his epsom salts bath his left ear always goes red. I would have thought that if it was just a case of him getting hot then both ears would go red. I know that red ears can be a sign of allergy but wondered why it would be happening in the bath. We use no bubble bath. Could this be an indication of anything? Could it mean that magnesium doesn't agree with him? Sorry, I know it sounds silly but it is always his left ear. Strange. Any ideas, thanks. Sue

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Never tried it but he seems OK with onion and garlic and less concentrated forms of tomato, he won;t take baths but will use the Mag sulphate cream, poof gone in 20 mins

Mx

Mandi, have you tried Hellmans ketchup. It doesn't have onions or garlic (sulphur) in the flavouring - most of them do including heinz. Charlie's fine with hellmans. I know it could be tomato causing the problem but just a thought!

Alison R

Does it happen at a time other than in the bath? Joe's lights up after ketchup. I would trial No Phenol, I can send you some samples

Mx

So, should I assume that phenols are a problem and give him No Fenol or do you think the epsom salt baths would be sufficient?( He has the baths 2 out of 3 days.) I don't think he has any high phenol foods and the only fruit he has are pears. Thanks. Sue

To: Autism-Biomedical-Europe Sent: Tuesday, 7 February 2012, 22:48Subject: Re: One red ear! ( Sorry if this is a really stupi...

That's a classic phenol reaction, a positive negative as it were, Epsom Salts doing their thing. YOu could fry and egg on my middle son Joe's it so hot, always only one

Mx

Hi everyone,I have noticed that when DS has his epsom salts bath his left ear always goes red. I would have thought that if it was just a case of him getting hot then both ears would go red. I know that red ears can be a sign of allergy but wondered why it would be happening in the bath. We use no bubble bath. Could this be an indication of anything? Could it mean that magnesium doesn't agree with him? Sorry, I know it sounds silly but it is always his left ear. Strange. Any ideas, thanks. Sue

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I do remember seeing his ear red when he was younger but nothing registered and I haven't really been looking out for this. Samples would be great Mandi, thank you. Should we expect die-off with them? Any possible negative reactions as DS seems to be tolerating less and less. Sue To: Autism-Biomedical-Europe Sent: Wednesday, 8 February 2012,

10:46 Subject: Re: One red ear! ( Sorry if this is a really stupi...

Does it happen at a time other than in the bath? Joe's lights up after ketchup. I would trial No Phenol, I can send you some samples

Mx

So, should I assume that phenols are a problem and give him No Fenol or do you think the epsom salt baths would be sufficient?( He has the baths 2 out of 3 days.) I don't think he has any high phenol foods and the only fruit he has are pears. Thanks. Sue

To: Autism-Biomedical-Europe Sent: Tuesday, 7 February 2012, 22:48Subject: Re: One red ear! ( Sorry if this is a really stupi...

That's a classic phenol reaction, a positive negative as it were, Epsom Salts doing their thing. YOu could fry and egg on my middle son Joe's it so hot, always only one

Mx

Hi everyone,I have noticed that when DS has his epsom salts bath his left ear always goes red. I would have thought that if it was just a case of him getting hot then both ears would go red. I know that red ears can be a sign of allergy but wondered why it would be happening in the bath. We use no bubble bath. Could this be an indication of anything? Could it mean that magnesium doesn't agree with him? Sorry, I know it sounds silly but it is always his left ear. Strange. Any ideas, thanks. Sue

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I do remember seeing his ear red when he was younger but nothing registered and I haven't really been looking out for this. Samples would be great Mandi, thank you. Should we expect die-off with them? Any possible negative reactions as DS seems to be tolerating less and less. Sue To: Autism-Biomedical-Europe Sent: Wednesday, 8 February 2012,

10:46 Subject: Re: One red ear! ( Sorry if this is a really stupi...

Does it happen at a time other than in the bath? Joe's lights up after ketchup. I would trial No Phenol, I can send you some samples

Mx

So, should I assume that phenols are a problem and give him No Fenol or do you think the epsom salt baths would be sufficient?( He has the baths 2 out of 3 days.) I don't think he has any high phenol foods and the only fruit he has are pears. Thanks. Sue

To: Autism-Biomedical-Europe Sent: Tuesday, 7 February 2012, 22:48Subject: Re: One red ear! ( Sorry if this is a really stupi...

That's a classic phenol reaction, a positive negative as it were, Epsom Salts doing their thing. YOu could fry and egg on my middle son Joe's it so hot, always only one

Mx

Hi everyone,I have noticed that when DS has his epsom salts bath his left ear always goes red. I would have thought that if it was just a case of him getting hot then both ears would go red. I know that red ears can be a sign of allergy but wondered why it would be happening in the bath. We use no bubble bath. Could this be an indication of anything? Could it mean that magnesium doesn't agree with him? Sorry, I know it sounds silly but it is always his left ear. Strange. Any ideas, thanks. Sue

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It might also be worth giving some molybdenum and b6 if not doing so already.

Kenny

>

> So, should I assume that phenols are a problem and give him No Fenol or do you

think the epsom salt baths would be sufficient?( He has the baths 2 out of 3

days.) I don't think he has any high phenol foods and the only fruit he has are

pears. Thanks. Sue

>

>

>

>

> ________________________________

>

> To: Autism-Biomedical-Europe

> Sent: Tuesday, 7 February 2012, 22:48

> Subject: Re: One red ear! ( Sorry if this is a

really stupi...

>

>

>  

> That's a classic phenol reaction, a positive negative as it were, Epsom

> Salts doing their thing. YOu could fry and egg on my middle son Joe's it so

hot,

> always only one 

> Mx

>  

> In a message dated 07/02/2012 22:09:15 GMT Standard Time,

> swerenowski@... writes:

>  

> >Hi everyone,

> >I have noticed that when DS has his epsom salts bath his

> left ear always goes red. I would have thought that if it was just a case of

> him getting hot then both ears would go red. I know that red ears can be a

> sign of allergy but wondered why it would be happening in the bath. We use

no

> bubble bath. Could this be an indication of anything? Could it mean that

> magnesium doesn't agree with him? Sorry, I know it sounds silly but it is

> always his left ear. Strange. Any ideas, thanks. Sue

> >

> >

>

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It might also be worth giving some molybdenum and b6 if not doing so already.

Kenny

>

> So, should I assume that phenols are a problem and give him No Fenol or do you

think the epsom salt baths would be sufficient?( He has the baths 2 out of 3

days.) I don't think he has any high phenol foods and the only fruit he has are

pears. Thanks. Sue

>

>

>

>

> ________________________________

>

> To: Autism-Biomedical-Europe

> Sent: Tuesday, 7 February 2012, 22:48

> Subject: Re: One red ear! ( Sorry if this is a

really stupi...

>

>

>  

> That's a classic phenol reaction, a positive negative as it were, Epsom

> Salts doing their thing. YOu could fry and egg on my middle son Joe's it so

hot,

> always only one 

> Mx

>  

> In a message dated 07/02/2012 22:09:15 GMT Standard Time,

> swerenowski@... writes:

>  

> >Hi everyone,

> >I have noticed that when DS has his epsom salts bath his

> left ear always goes red. I would have thought that if it was just a case of

> him getting hot then both ears would go red. I know that red ears can be a

> sign of allergy but wondered why it would be happening in the bath. We use

no

> bubble bath. Could this be an indication of anything? Could it mean that

> magnesium doesn't agree with him? Sorry, I know it sounds silly but it is

> always his left ear. Strange. Any ideas, thanks. Sue

> >

> >

>

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