Re: helmut question very frustrated help!!!!!

[Guest guest]

Hi & welcome to our group!!

Let me start by saying your son is at the perfect younger age to begin

his helmet treatment! He should get excellent & fast correction.

Next --- what type of helmet is he wearing?? A STARband made by

Orthomerica (if it's the STAR, it would have a star logo imprinted

somewhere on the band), a DOCband made by Cranial Technologies or a

locally made helmet?

My daughter 1st wore a STARband and that band's velcro opening was on

her left side which was her non plagio side. She wore that band with

no success for 3 mos a result of an untrained - unexperienced

orthotist. Do you know how much training your orthotist has in

treating plagio babies w/the helmet? That is the key to success in

any of these products.

Abby later wore a DOCband, the velcro opening was on her flat side

(right). I've been told the velcro opening vary though depending on

the child. It makes more sense to me for the opening to be on the

flat side of the head especially in an active band like the STAR or

DOCband so that the pressures of the band can be correctly applied to

the non flat side. Boy this gets confusing!

The actual velcro is sinking into your son's head? That definitely

shouldn't be if so. The velcro should be very loose and not at all

tight on his head. Is he getting bad red spots anywhere that don't

fade w/i one hour of the band being off?

I'm sooo sorry you're so frustrated, I know how you feel. It's a

shame though your son's " sperm donor " isn't of any help at all,

absolute shame and it's his loss.

Welcome again, vent away to us, that's why we're here.

Debbie Abby's mom DOCGrad

MI'

- In Plagiocephaly , " mzola02 <mzola@j...> "

<mzola@j...> wrote:

> Hi, let me introduce myself. My name is . I have a 4 month

> old son who has been diagnosed with plagio. We have rec'd our helmut

> and had it adjusted once. I am not at all happy with the fitting and

> have a question. Is the opening on the side needing correction or the

> other side? My sons opening is on the side needing correction (right

> sie) and regardless of what we do, that side is sinking into his flat

> spot. I went for one readjustment last week and we see the ortho

> again weds the 19th. I spent two days painting this thing to look

> like a Cubs helmut. We are diehards. I NEVER want to do that again!

>

> ERRRRRRRRR!!!!! I am so frustrated. I am a single mom and the sperm

> donor would not give us the time of day to save his soul.

>

> I can not for the life of me see how the helmut pressing or sinking

> into the flat spot will help and not hinder this condition. I am

> ready to dump the ortho and my insurance and charge it but really can

> not afford to do so!

>

> I am self employed as a Realtor and although ny schedule is very

> flexible, we have to see a PT which I will find out about Monday. We

> have to see the ortho every two weeks for 6 mo and my step mom is a

> Chiropractor and she wants to see him to adjust him three times a

> week! How the HE#$ am I supposed to do this all alone and still

> work!!!!!!!!

>

>

> HELP!!!!!! CRYING ALL DAY!!!!!!! I need some info to educate myself

> so this ortho does no blow moke up my a@@ to save his co $$ if they

> made a mistake in mfg!!!!!!!!!!

>

> Email mzola@j...

>

> THANK YOU!!!!!!

> &

[Guest guest]

HI,

Welcome to the group! I have to agree with everything Debbie said. My

daughter is in a DOCband and it opens on her plagio side. (right)

Please keep us posted.

> > Hi, let me introduce myself. My name is . I have a 4

month

> > old son who has been diagnosed with plagio. We have rec'd our

helmut

> > and had it adjusted once. I am not at all happy with the fitting

and

> > have a question. Is the opening on the side needing correction or

the

> > other side? My sons opening is on the side needing correction

(right

> > sie) and regardless of what we do, that side is sinking into his

flat

> > spot. I went for one readjustment last week and we see the ortho

> > again weds the 19th. I spent two days painting this thing to look

> > like a Cubs helmut. We are diehards. I NEVER want to do that

again!

> >

> > ERRRRRRRRR!!!!! I am so frustrated. I am a single mom and the

sperm

> > donor would not give us the time of day to save his soul.

> >

> > I can not for the life of me see how the helmut pressing or

sinking

> > into the flat spot will help and not hinder this condition. I am

> > ready to dump the ortho and my insurance and charge it but really

can

> > not afford to do so!

> >

> > I am self employed as a Realtor and although ny schedule is very

> > flexible, we have to see a PT which I will find out about Monday.

We

> > have to see the ortho every two weeks for 6 mo and my step mom is

a

> > Chiropractor and she wants to see him to adjust him three times a

> > week! How the HE#$ am I supposed to do this all alone and still

> > work!!!!!!!!

> >

> >

> > HELP!!!!!! CRYING ALL DAY!!!!!!! I need some info to educate

myself

> > so this ortho does no blow moke up my a@@ to save his co $$ if

they

> > made a mistake in mfg!!!!!!!!!!

> >

> > Email mzola@j...

> >

> > THANK YOU!!!!!!

> > &

[Guest guest]

I am pretty sure the majority of DOCband openings are on the child's

flat side of their head. I remember posting this same question to the

group shortly after Abby got her STARband and the opening was on her

non flat side, that concerned me and we ended up getting no results

from that band.

Are you possibly closing the velcro too tightly? Like pulling on it

to hard to close it?

Hope things start to go better soon. Keep your spirits up, the first

week or two are pretty stressful and often many trips are needed to

the orthotist to get that perfect fit.

Debbie Abby's mom DOCGrad

MI

> > > Hi, let me introduce myself. My name is . I have a 4

> month

> > > old son who has been diagnosed with plagio. We have rec'd our

> helmut

> > > and had it adjusted once. I am not at all happy with the fitting

> and

> > > have a question. Is the opening on the side needing correction or

> the

> > > other side? My sons opening is on the side needing correction

> (right

> > > sie) and regardless of what we do, that side is sinking into his

> flat

> > > spot. I went for one readjustment last week and we see the ortho

> > > again weds the 19th. I spent two days painting this thing to look

> > > like a Cubs helmut. We are diehards. I NEVER want to do that

> again!

> > >

> > > ERRRRRRRRR!!!!! I am so frustrated. I am a single mom and the

> sperm

> > > donor would not give us the time of day to save his soul.

> > >

> > > I can not for the life of me see how the helmut pressing or

> sinking

> > > into the flat spot will help and not hinder this condition. I am

> > > ready to dump the ortho and my insurance and charge it but really

> can

> > > not afford to do so!

> > >

> > > I am self employed as a Realtor and although ny schedule is very

> > > flexible, we have to see a PT which I will find out about Monday.

> We

> > > have to see the ortho every two weeks for 6 mo and my step mom is

> a

> > > Chiropractor and she wants to see him to adjust him three times a

> > > week! How the HE#$ am I supposed to do this all alone and still

> > > work!!!!!!!!

> > >

> > >

> > > HELP!!!!!! CRYING ALL DAY!!!!!!! I need some info to educate

> myself

> > > so this ortho does no blow moke up my a@@ to save his co $$ if

> they

> > > made a mistake in mfg!!!!!!!!!!

> > >

> > > Email mzola@j...

> > >

> > > THANK YOU!!!!!!

> > > &

[Guest guest]

-

Welcome to the group!

is at a phenomenal age for correction!

What kind of band does have? Does your ortho have a lot of

experience?

The opening should be on the flat spot. Tim Littlefield from

Cranial Technologies explained why a few months ago, but I cannot

find the post

Do you mean the back part of the opening (where the buckle is) is

curving into his skin and causing problems? Are you pulling the

velcro or just laying it down?

That is way cool about your stepmom being a chiropractor. Does she

do cranial sacral therapy for too?

You are one busy mom, but incredibly dedicated. Since you started

so young, he will graduate early and get great correction

Dane's mom DOC Grad

[Guest guest]

Collin's opening on his STARband was on his non-flat spot. Not sure if that's normal for STARbands or not... He got amazing correction in only about 2 months.

Jodi (Collin - STARband 11/5/02 - 1/25/03- in CA)

-----Original Message-----From: rmanias <rmanias@...> [mailto:rmanias@...] Sent: Sunday, February 16, 2003 6:11 PMPlagiocephaly Subject: Re: helmut question very frustrated help!!!!!-Welcome to the group! is at a phenomenal age for correction! What kind of band does have? Does your ortho have a lot of experience?The opening should be on the flat spot. Tim Littlefield from Cranial Technologies explained why a few months ago, but I cannot find the post Do you mean the back part of the opening (where the buckle is) is curving into his skin and causing problems? Are you pulling the velcro or just laying it down?That is way cool about your stepmom being a chiropractor. Does she do cranial sacral therapy for too?You are one busy mom, but incredibly dedicated. Since you started so young, he will graduate early and get great correction Dane's mom DOC GradFor more plagio info

[Guest guest]

Jenna's opening on her starband was on her non flat side too. She had great correction.

Angie

RE: Re: helmut question very frustrated help!!!!!

Collin's opening on his STARband was on his non-flat spot. Not sure if that's normal for STARbands or not... He got amazing correction in only about 2 months.

Jodi (Collin - STARband 11/5/02 - 1/25/03- in CA)

-----Original Message-----From: rmanias <rmanias@...> [mailto:rmanias@...] Sent: Sunday, February 16, 2003 6:11 PMPlagiocephaly Subject: Re: helmut question very frustrated help!!!!!-Welcome to the group! is at a phenomenal age for correction! What kind of band does have? Does your ortho have a lot of experience?The opening should be on the flat spot. Tim Littlefield from Cranial Technologies explained why a few months ago, but I cannot find the post Do you mean the back part of the opening (where the buckle is) is curving into his skin and causing problems? Are you pulling the velcro or just laying it down?That is way cool about your stepmom being a chiropractor. Does she do cranial sacral therapy for too?You are one busy mom, but incredibly dedicated. Since you started so young, he will graduate early and get great correction Dane's mom DOC GradFor more plagio info

[Guest guest]

HI All, The opening is on the flat side. This side sits flush when it

is not on . However when it is on him the back side with the

opening lays coser to the head and is not flush with the opening.

Does this make sense? Thanks for all the input!

&

> > > > Hi, let me introduce myself. My name is . I have a 4

> > month

> > > > old son who has been diagnosed with plagio. We have rec'd our

> > helmut

> > > > and had it adjusted once. I am not at all happy with the

fitting

> > and

> > > > have a question. Is the opening on the side needing

correction or

> > the

> > > > other side? My sons opening is on the side needing correction

> > (right

> > > > sie) and regardless of what we do, that side is sinking into

his

> > flat

> > > > spot. I went for one readjustment last week and we see the

ortho

> > > > again weds the 19th. I spent two days painting this thing to

look

> > > > like a Cubs helmut. We are diehards. I NEVER want to do that

> > again!

> > > >

> > > > ERRRRRRRRR!!!!! I am so frustrated. I am a single mom and the

> > sperm

> > > > donor would not give us the time of day to save his soul.

> > > >

> > > > I can not for the life of me see how the helmut pressing or

> > sinking

> > > > into the flat spot will help and not hinder this condition. I

am

> > > > ready to dump the ortho and my insurance and charge it but

really

> > can

> > > > not afford to do so!

> > > >

> > > > I am self employed as a Realtor and although ny schedule is

very

> > > > flexible, we have to see a PT which I will find out about

Monday.

> > We

> > > > have to see the ortho every two weeks for 6 mo and my step

mom is

> > a

> > > > Chiropractor and she wants to see him to adjust him three

times a

> > > > week! How the HE#$ am I supposed to do this all alone and

still

> > > > work!!!!!!!!

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > HELP!!!!!! CRYING ALL DAY!!!!!!! I need some info to educate

> > myself

> > > > so this ortho does no blow moke up my a@@ to save his co $$

if

> > they

> > > > made a mistake in mfg!!!!!!!!!!

> > > >

> > > > Email mzola@j...

> > > >

> > > > THANK YOU!!!!!!

> > > > &

[Guest guest]

HI ,

My daughter is in a DOCband and it doesn't close all the way. There

is a little space between the sides of the band where it closes. Does

that make sense? She's been banded since July and we've seen some

really great correction! I don't think the band is supposed to close

all the way. What type of band is in?

> > > > > Hi, let me introduce myself. My name is . I have a

4

> > > month

> > > > > old son who has been diagnosed with plagio. We have rec'd

our

> > > helmut

> > > > > and had it adjusted once. I am not at all happy with the

> fitting

> > > and

> > > > > have a question. Is the opening on the side needing

> correction or

> > > the

> > > > > other side? My sons opening is on the side needing

correction

> > > (right

> > > > > sie) and regardless of what we do, that side is sinking

into

> his

> > > flat

> > > > > spot. I went for one readjustment last week and we see the

> ortho

> > > > > again weds the 19th. I spent two days painting this thing

to

> look

> > > > > like a Cubs helmut. We are diehards. I NEVER want to do

that

> > > again!

> > > > >

> > > > > ERRRRRRRRR!!!!! I am so frustrated. I am a single mom and

the

> > > sperm

> > > > > donor would not give us the time of day to save his soul.

> > > > >

> > > > > I can not for the life of me see how the helmut pressing or

> > > sinking

> > > > > into the flat spot will help and not hinder this condition.

I

> am

> > > > > ready to dump the ortho and my insurance and charge it but

> really

> > > can

> > > > > not afford to do so!

> > > > >

> > > > > I am self employed as a Realtor and although ny schedule is

> very

> > > > > flexible, we have to see a PT which I will find out about

> Monday.

> > > We

> > > > > have to see the ortho every two weeks for 6 mo and my step

> mom is

> > > a

> > > > > Chiropractor and she wants to see him to adjust him three

> times a

> > > > > week! How the HE#$ am I supposed to do this all alone and

> still

> > > > > work!!!!!!!!

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > HELP!!!!!! CRYING ALL DAY!!!!!!! I need some info to

educate

> > > myself

> > > > > so this ortho does no blow moke up my a@@ to save his co $$

> if

> > > they

> > > > > made a mistake in mfg!!!!!!!!!!

> > > > >

> > > > > Email mzola@j...

> > > > >

> > > > > THANK YOU!!!!!!

> > > > > &

[Guest guest]

Hi, is in a locally made helmut mfg by Ballert Industries in the

Chicago area. His helmut closes all the way as he's only had it a

week the back side lays lower than the front side at the opening when

on. Thx.

> > > > > > Hi, let me introduce myself. My name is . I have

a

> 4

> > > > month

> > > > > > old son who has been diagnosed with plagio. We have rec'd

> our

> > > > helmut

> > > > > > and had it adjusted once. I am not at all happy with the

> > fitting

> > > > and

> > > > > > have a question. Is the opening on the side needing

> > correction or

> > > > the

> > > > > > other side? My sons opening is on the side needing

> correction

> > > > (right

> > > > > > sie) and regardless of what we do, that side is sinking

> into

> > his

> > > > flat

> > > > > > spot. I went for one readjustment last week and we see

the

> > ortho

> > > > > > again weds the 19th. I spent two days painting this thing

> to

> > look

> > > > > > like a Cubs helmut. We are diehards. I NEVER want to do

> that

> > > > again!

> > > > > >

> > > > > > ERRRRRRRRR!!!!! I am so frustrated. I am a single mom and

> the

> > > > sperm

> > > > > > donor would not give us the time of day to save his soul.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > I can not for the life of me see how the helmut pressing

or

> > > > sinking

> > > > > > into the flat spot will help and not hinder this

condition.

> I

> > am

> > > > > > ready to dump the ortho and my insurance and charge it

but

> > really

> > > > can

> > > > > > not afford to do so!

> > > > > >

> > > > > > I am self employed as a Realtor and although ny schedule

is

> > very

> > > > > > flexible, we have to see a PT which I will find out about

> > Monday.

> > > > We

> > > > > > have to see the ortho every two weeks for 6 mo and my

step

> > mom is

> > > > a

> > > > > > Chiropractor and she wants to see him to adjust him three

> > times a

> > > > > > week! How the HE#$ am I supposed to do this all alone and

> > still

> > > > > > work!!!!!!!!

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > > HELP!!!!!! CRYING ALL DAY!!!!!!! I need some info to

> educate

> > > > myself

> > > > > > so this ortho does no blow moke up my a@@ to save his co

$$

> > if

> > > > they

> > > > > > made a mistake in mfg!!!!!!!!!!

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Email mzola@j...

> > > > > >

> > > > > > THANK YOU!!!!!!

> > > > > > &