(OT) Big day in France for autism families

[Guest guest]

A Court judgment should be delivered today which will rule whether or not a film

about autism and psychoanalysis in France can be suppressed. If the defendants

(the documentary maker and an autism charity) win, the film will be shown on

French TV. If they lose they may have to pay the plaintiffs (three of the

psychoanalysts who appear in the film) as awful lot in damages.

You can watch the film on YouTube - it has subtitles and is 52 minutes long.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TBUFMYythJQ

It is very shocking - and marvellous that the film maker managed to get so many

psychoanalysts to reveal their views about autism being, basically, a psychosis.

They hate behavioural methods. They refuse to give weight to the considerable

scientific research which shows autism is a neuro-developmental disorder. They

are anti the USA and anti science. Their behaviour has many of the

characteristics of a cult.

For decades in France Lacanian psychoanalysis (they also generally support

Bettelheim) has blamed the parents for the child's autism. The autistic child

has been seen by these professionals as mentally ill and often the children have

been taken away from the families and put into institutions. One 'treatment' has

been to wrap the child tightly in wet freezing cold sheets - they call this

'packing'.

Five or 6 years ago the Council of Europe criticised France for failing to

educate children with autism. They don't get an education because the

psychoanalysts say they are sick and need treatment, not education.

There has been criticism of the psychoanalytic stranglehold from French families

for several years. There is a tiny movement speaking out against packing,

against incarceration and in favour of ABA, PECS, TEACCH and other approaches.

The psychoanalytic establishment in the face of this criticism is now claiming

they are in favour of a variety of approaches. Actually they aren't, as the film

-maker's website shows clearly.

http://psychanalysedevoilee.oceaninvisibleproductions.com/

I really hope that the psychoanalysts lose their case and that the film is shown

on public TV in France. This ought to have a big effect in finally ending these

abusive practices and free up the money to be used to help the children with

autism.

Margaret

[Guest guest]

This is hard to watch...the old dinosaurs with still too much abiding influence. We should be trying to get these parents over here to attend our conferences. I think change begins at the most basic levels, parent and child and at the community level. There must be French language grads/French or Francophone nationals amongst us who have the time and motivation that could buddy up with the parents for the conference. In any case, the more experience and perspectives brought in from other cultures could contribute to a positive turning point. Subject: (OT) Big day in

France for autism familiesTo: Autism-Biomedical-Europe Date: Thursday, 26 January, 2012, 14:02

A Court judgment should be delivered today which will rule whether or not a film about autism and psychoanalysis in France can be suppressed. If the defendants (the documentary maker and an autism charity) win, the film will be shown on French TV. If they lose they may have to pay the plaintiffs (three of the psychoanalysts who appear in the film) as awful lot in damages.

You can watch the film on YouTube - it has subtitles and is 52 minutes long.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TBUFMYythJQ

It is very shocking - and marvellous that the film maker managed to get so many psychoanalysts to reveal their views about autism being, basically, a psychosis. They hate behavioural methods. They refuse to give weight to the considerable scientific research which shows autism is a neuro-developmental disorder. They are anti the USA and anti science. Their behaviour has many of the characteristics of a cult.

For decades in France Lacanian psychoanalysis (they also generally support Bettelheim) has blamed the parents for the child's autism. The autistic child has been seen by these professionals as mentally ill and often the children have been taken away from the families and put into institutions. One 'treatment' has been to wrap the child tightly in wet freezing cold sheets - they call this 'packing'.

Five or 6 years ago the Council of Europe criticised France for failing to educate children with autism. They don't get an education because the psychoanalysts say they are sick and need treatment, not education.

There has been criticism of the psychoanalytic stranglehold from French families for several years. There is a tiny movement speaking out against packing, against incarceration and in favour of ABA, PECS, TEACCH and other approaches.

The psychoanalytic establishment in the face of this criticism is now claiming they are in favour of a variety of approaches. Actually they aren't, as the film -maker's website shows clearly.

http://psychanalysedevoilee.oceaninvisibleproductions.com/

I really hope that the psychoanalysts lose their case and that the film is shown on public TV in France. This ought to have a big effect in finally ending these abusive practices and free up the money to be used to help the children with autism.

Margaret

[Guest guest]

Does anyone mind if this is posted to other groups? esp US? Thanks,

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or not a film about autism and psychoanalysis in France can be suppressed. If

the defendants (the documentary maker and an autism charity) win, the film will

be shown on French TV. If they lose they may have to pay the plaintiffs (three

of the psychoanalysts who appear in the film) as awful lot in damages.

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> > > It is very shocking - and marvellous that the film maker managed to get so

many psychoanalysts to reveal their views about autism being, basically, a

psychosis. They hate behavioural methods. They refuse to give weight to the

considerable scientific research which shows autism is a neuro-developmental

disorder. They are anti the USA and anti science. Their behaviour has many of

the characteristics of a cult.

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> > > For decades in France Lacanian psychoanalysis (they also generally support

Bettelheim) has blamed the parents for the child's autism. The autistic child

has been seen by these professionals as mentally ill and often the children have

been taken away from the families and put into institutions. One 'treatment' has

been to wrap the child tightly in wet freezing cold sheets - they call this

'packing'.

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> > > Five or 6 years ago the Council of Europe criticised France for failing to

educate children with autism. They don't get an education because the

psychoanalysts say they are sick and need treatment, not education.

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> > > There has been criticism of the psychoanalytic stranglehold from French

families for several years. There is a tiny movement speaking out against

packing, against incarceration and in favour of ABA, PECS, TEACCH and other

approaches.

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> > > The psychoanalytic establishment in the face of this criticism is now

claiming they are in favour of a variety of approaches. Actually they aren't, as

the film -maker's website shows clearly.

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shown on public TV in France. This ought to have a big effect in finally ending

these abusive practices and free up the money to be used to help the children

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The film maker is appealing the decision. The film was shown in the US since the

court ruling - I think it was t an ABA conference.

Back home we find it easier to get a diagnosois - but then in most areas we get

no services to help our children develop.

Margaret

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> > A Court judgment should be delivered today which will rule whether or

not a film about autism and psychoanalysis in France can be suppressed. If the

defendants (the documentary maker and an autism charity) win, the film will be

shown on French TV. If they lose they may have to pay the plaintiffs (three of

the psychoanalysts who appear in the film) as awful lot in damages.

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> > It is very shocking - and marvellous that the film maker managed to get so

many psychoanalysts to reveal their views about autism being, basically, a

psychosis. They hate behavioural methods. They refuse to give weight to the

considerable scientific research which shows autism is a neuro-developmental

disorder. They are anti the USA and anti science. Their behaviour has many of

the characteristics of a cult.

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> > For decades in France Lacanian psychoanalysis (they also generally support

Bettelheim) has blamed the parents for the child's autism. The autistic child

has been seen by these professionals as mentally ill and often the children have

been taken away from the families and put into institutions. One 'treatment' has

been to wrap the child tightly in wet freezing cold sheets - they call this

'packing'.

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> > Five or 6 years ago the Council of Europe criticised France for failing to

educate children with autism. They don't get an education because the

psychoanalysts say they are sick and need treatment, not education.

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> > There has been criticism of the psychoanalytic stranglehold from French

families for several years. There is a tiny movement speaking out against

packing, against incarceration and in favour of ABA, PECS, TEACCH and other

approaches.

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> > The psychoanalytic establishment in the face of this criticism is now

claiming they are in favour of a variety of approaches. Actually they aren't, as

the film -maker's website shows clearly.

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> > I really hope that the psychoanalysts lose their case and that the film is

shown on public TV in France. This ought to have a big effect in finally ending

these abusive practices and free up the money to be used to help the children

with autism.

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