Re: Re: Biomedical Treatment in the UK

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Very good experience with Breaksp here, and several people I know whose kids were helped by them and are very pleased with progress.Have not used Autism Clinic myself but have yet to hear from anyone whose kid has made substantial progress under them. Anyone? All I've heard is people being given loads and loads of supplements, then going back months later with no progress and being given heaps more supplements… Could be that there are people who are seeing big or steady progress under them but are not posting on here. Natasa Reply-To: "Autism-Biomedical-Europe " <Autism-Biomedical-Europe >Date: Fri, 23 Dec 2011 10:05:45 -0000To: "Autism-Biomedical-Europe " <Autism-Biomedical-Europe >Subject: Re: Biomedical Treatment in the UK

Thank you both.

Could you please say why you suggest Breakspear over the Autism Clinic? Online, I haven't found much comment on the Autism Clinic, but very mixed comments about Breakspear, with some people saying they are very professional and can make a difference, and others saying that they are at best useless and at worst dangerous (e.g. through the use of chelation therapy).

It's really hard to make a choice without understanding their different approaches and how they have worked (or not) for people.

Thanks again

Guy

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> I second all that.

> Best of luck.

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> Natasa

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> Subject: Re: Biomedical Treatment in the UK

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> Breakspear with Dr Goyal would be my choice, you need to wait a couple of

> months for an appointment but in meantime can be cleaning up diet and home

> and learning

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> www.TreatingAutism.co.uk <http://www.TreatingAutism.co.uk> Beginners guide,

> check ATEC etc

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> www.autism.com <http://www.autism.com> Conference video's are free to view,

> plus lots more

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> www.tacanow.org <http://www.tacanow.org>

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> JMHO

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> Mandi in Dorset

> Sam nearly 15, 47XYY, Regressive Autism, Seizure Disorder and Severe

> Cute-ness

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> In a message dated 22/12/2011 18:43:58 GMT Standard Time, guy500@...

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> > Hello

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> > We have just been given £2000 funding from Caudwell for Biomedical treatment

> > for our 2 year old son with autism. We are not sure whether it would be best

> > to go to the Autism Clinic in Hampton, or the Breakspear Clinic in Milton

> > Keynes. They both look interesting.

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> > Does anyone have experience of either or both of these, who could offer any

> > thoughts about them?

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> > Thank you.

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[Guest guest]

I was gobsmacked after a patient there was advised to do the challenge test . Not sure which doctor recommended it at the Breakspear. I wanted to say something to the Dad who was being debriefed on the estimate but it would have looked like I was eavesdropping and I wasn't sure how he would react.Zahra To: Autism-Biomedical-Europe Sent: Friday, 23 December 2011, 11:40 Subject: Re: Re: Biomedical Treatment in the UK

Its because of lack of knowledge on chelation that I do not recommend Jon Tommey. Like telling people with amalgams to use ALA - arghhhhhhhhhh

If fact I do not recommend most people for that, you safer with other parents than practitioners for chelation.

Found out recently one of my customers was recommended EDTA IV for a 17 year old NT Uni student with toxicity at the Breakspear by Dr Goyal even (!?!), luckily his mum had done it and it made her feel so bad she refused for her son and went with Cutler protocol.

Only practitioner in UK I know giving constant safe advice about chelation is Lucinda who is a Naturpath http://www.naturedoc.co.uk/

Mandi x

Could you please say why you suggest Breakspear over the Autism Clinic? Online, I haven't found much comment on the Autism Clinic, but very mixed comments about Breakspear, with some people saying they are very professional and can make a difference, and others saying that they are at best useless and at worst dangerous (e.g. through the use of chelation therapy).

[Guest guest]

All the Docs there do challenge tests unfortunately..........but I will speak to Goyal about the EDTA IV rec for that boy

Mandi x

I was gobsmacked after a patient there was advised to do the challenge test . Not sure which doctor recommended it at the Breakspear. I wanted to say something to the Dad who was being debriefed on the estimate but it would have looked like I was eavesdropping and I wasn't sure how he would react.

Zahra

To: Autism-Biomedical-Europe Sent: Friday, 23 December 2011, 11:40Subject: Re: Re: Biomedical Treatment in the UK

Its because of lack of knowledge on chelation that I do not recommend Jon Tommey. Like telling people with amalgams to use ALA - arghhhhhhhhhh

If fact I do not recommend most people for that, you safer with other parents than practitioners for chelation.

Found out recently one of my customers was recommended EDTA IV for a 17 year old NT Uni student with toxicity at the Breakspear by Dr Goyal even (!?!), luckily his mum had done it and it made her feel so bad she refused for her son and went with Cutler protocol.

Only practitioner in UK I know giving constant safe advice about chelation is Lucinda who is a Naturpath http://www.naturedoc.co.uk/

Mandi x

Could you please say why you suggest Breakspear over the Autism Clinic? Online, I haven't found much comment on the Autism Clinic, but very mixed comments about Breakspear, with some people saying they are very professional and can make a difference, and others saying that they are at best useless and at worst dangerous (e.g. through the use of chelation therapy).

[Guest guest]

All the Docs there do challenge tests unfortunately..........but I will speak to Goyal about the EDTA IV rec for that boy

Mandi x

I was gobsmacked after a patient there was advised to do the challenge test . Not sure which doctor recommended it at the Breakspear. I wanted to say something to the Dad who was being debriefed on the estimate but it would have looked like I was eavesdropping and I wasn't sure how he would react.

Zahra

To: Autism-Biomedical-Europe Sent: Friday, 23 December 2011, 11:40Subject: Re: Re: Biomedical Treatment in the UK

Its because of lack of knowledge on chelation that I do not recommend Jon Tommey. Like telling people with amalgams to use ALA - arghhhhhhhhhh

If fact I do not recommend most people for that, you safer with other parents than practitioners for chelation.

Found out recently one of my customers was recommended EDTA IV for a 17 year old NT Uni student with toxicity at the Breakspear by Dr Goyal even (!?!), luckily his mum had done it and it made her feel so bad she refused for her son and went with Cutler protocol.

Only practitioner in UK I know giving constant safe advice about chelation is Lucinda who is a Naturpath http://www.naturedoc.co.uk/

Mandi x

Could you please say why you suggest Breakspear over the Autism Clinic? Online, I haven't found much comment on the Autism Clinic, but very mixed comments about Breakspear, with some people saying they are very professional and can make a difference, and others saying that they are at best useless and at worst dangerous (e.g. through the use of chelation therapy).

[Guest guest]

All the Docs there do challenge tests unfortunately..........but I will speak to Goyal about the EDTA IV rec for that boy

Mandi x

I was gobsmacked after a patient there was advised to do the challenge test . Not sure which doctor recommended it at the Breakspear. I wanted to say something to the Dad who was being debriefed on the estimate but it would have looked like I was eavesdropping and I wasn't sure how he would react.

Zahra

To: Autism-Biomedical-Europe Sent: Friday, 23 December 2011, 11:40Subject: Re: Re: Biomedical Treatment in the UK

Its because of lack of knowledge on chelation that I do not recommend Jon Tommey. Like telling people with amalgams to use ALA - arghhhhhhhhhh

If fact I do not recommend most people for that, you safer with other parents than practitioners for chelation.

Found out recently one of my customers was recommended EDTA IV for a 17 year old NT Uni student with toxicity at the Breakspear by Dr Goyal even (!?!), luckily his mum had done it and it made her feel so bad she refused for her son and went with Cutler protocol.

Only practitioner in UK I know giving constant safe advice about chelation is Lucinda who is a Naturpath http://www.naturedoc.co.uk/

Mandi x

Could you please say why you suggest Breakspear over the Autism Clinic? Online, I haven't found much comment on the Autism Clinic, but very mixed comments about Breakspear, with some people saying they are very professional and can make a difference, and others saying that they are at best useless and at worst dangerous (e.g. through the use of chelation therapy).