Re: Re: Asthma management - Walt Bartoo

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Walt,

I can only quote what YOU wrote! You went into hospital under the care of a doctor to have biopsies done of your Barrettes esophagus and stomach. You were worried that you may not come through it, so that tells me you had a general anesthetic. If you had invasive surgery and a general anesthetic that is an operation!! You also stated that you had suffered for a very long time with this condition for which you were being treated. Well, guess what, we are all suffering with Asthma, so you have had treatment for what ails you and been advised by a doctor and treated obviously for your condition, but you knock everyone here for doing the same thing, you just choose not to discuss it in this particular group.

So what is your problem?

Your problem Walt is that you are a hypocrite. You get treatment, but we shouldn't.

One day you are going to advise, or abuse someone to the point that they may take you to heart and stop taking their medication. I hope you are ready for that responsibility. You have already been asked not to play doctor on the other group and I am telling you the same here.

Asthma is also a symptom of different causes and until a cure is found we have medication to keep us functioning and in some cases alive. Buteyko is NOT the cure. I am glad you found a satisfactory symptom release for 'your asthma.' But don't attack peoples stance, unless you have tried to breathe in their shoes and are ready to support your own actions.

Hey Walt, I just got a grip, right round your esophagus, I would back off if I were you, as you might need albuterol when I'm finished with you.

Sue.

Hi Sue: I went in for a test! Not a operation! Get a grip. It was not for Asthma but was for posibble cancer of the eosphagus,or stomach after treatment for Helico Bacter Pylori. Because Sue the bacteria is a possible pre-curser to Cancer. Last i'm not knocking physicians seeking to cure you. I am knocking physicians prescribing meds to treat just symptoms. So what is your problem?

Asthma has a CAUSE, and IF found a CURE! Walt

Wow Walt you really outdid yourself this time!You must be feeling better after your op,last week, you know the one that you went into a hospital to have, that was done by doctors, real ones. Who took your insurance money, which you gladly paid. Because this is America and if you don't want to have an op NO-ONE makes you!!!!! BUT YOU DID! What a hypocrit!To see what planet Walt is really from go to Google.com and type in Walt Bartoo. You will really get a sense of who Walt really is. Then we may all move on to discuss asthma in a caring and supportive environment without being made to feel guilty and belittled.Sue.

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Walt,

I can only quote what YOU wrote! You went into hospital under the care of a doctor to have biopsies done of your Barrettes esophagus and stomach. You were worried that you may not come through it, so that tells me you had a general anesthetic. If you had invasive surgery and a general anesthetic that is an operation!! You also stated that you had suffered for a very long time with this condition for which you were being treated. Well, guess what, we are all suffering with Asthma, so you have had treatment for what ails you and been advised by a doctor and treated obviously for your condition, but you knock everyone here for doing the same thing, you just choose not to discuss it in this particular group.

So what is your problem?

Your problem Walt is that you are a hypocrite. You get treatment, but we shouldn't.

One day you are going to advise, or abuse someone to the point that they may take you to heart and stop taking their medication. I hope you are ready for that responsibility. You have already been asked not to play doctor on the other group and I am telling you the same here.

Asthma is also a symptom of different causes and until a cure is found we have medication to keep us functioning and in some cases alive. Buteyko is NOT the cure. I am glad you found a satisfactory symptom release for 'your asthma.' But don't attack peoples stance, unless you have tried to breathe in their shoes and are ready to support your own actions.

Hey Walt, I just got a grip, right round your esophagus, I would back off if I were you, as you might need albuterol when I'm finished with you.

Sue.

Hi Sue: I went in for a test! Not a operation! Get a grip. It was not for Asthma but was for posibble cancer of the eosphagus,or stomach after treatment for Helico Bacter Pylori. Because Sue the bacteria is a possible pre-curser to Cancer. Last i'm not knocking physicians seeking to cure you. I am knocking physicians prescribing meds to treat just symptoms. So what is your problem?

Asthma has a CAUSE, and IF found a CURE! Walt

Wow Walt you really outdid yourself this time!You must be feeling better after your op,last week, you know the one that you went into a hospital to have, that was done by doctors, real ones. Who took your insurance money, which you gladly paid. Because this is America and if you don't want to have an op NO-ONE makes you!!!!! BUT YOU DID! What a hypocrit!To see what planet Walt is really from go to Google.com and type in Walt Bartoo. You will really get a sense of who Walt really is. Then we may all move on to discuss asthma in a caring and supportive environment without being made to feel guilty and belittled.Sue.

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Walt,

I can only quote what YOU wrote! You went into hospital under the care of a doctor to have biopsies done of your Barrettes esophagus and stomach. You were worried that you may not come through it, so that tells me you had a general anesthetic. If you had invasive surgery and a general anesthetic that is an operation!! You also stated that you had suffered for a very long time with this condition for which you were being treated. Well, guess what, we are all suffering with Asthma, so you have had treatment for what ails you and been advised by a doctor and treated obviously for your condition, but you knock everyone here for doing the same thing, you just choose not to discuss it in this particular group.

So what is your problem?

Your problem Walt is that you are a hypocrite. You get treatment, but we shouldn't.

One day you are going to advise, or abuse someone to the point that they may take you to heart and stop taking their medication. I hope you are ready for that responsibility. You have already been asked not to play doctor on the other group and I am telling you the same here.

Asthma is also a symptom of different causes and until a cure is found we have medication to keep us functioning and in some cases alive. Buteyko is NOT the cure. I am glad you found a satisfactory symptom release for 'your asthma.' But don't attack peoples stance, unless you have tried to breathe in their shoes and are ready to support your own actions.

Hey Walt, I just got a grip, right round your esophagus, I would back off if I were you, as you might need albuterol when I'm finished with you.

Sue.

Hi Sue: I went in for a test! Not a operation! Get a grip. It was not for Asthma but was for posibble cancer of the eosphagus,or stomach after treatment for Helico Bacter Pylori. Because Sue the bacteria is a possible pre-curser to Cancer. Last i'm not knocking physicians seeking to cure you. I am knocking physicians prescribing meds to treat just symptoms. So what is your problem?

Asthma has a CAUSE, and IF found a CURE! Walt

Wow Walt you really outdid yourself this time!You must be feeling better after your op,last week, you know the one that you went into a hospital to have, that was done by doctors, real ones. Who took your insurance money, which you gladly paid. Because this is America and if you don't want to have an op NO-ONE makes you!!!!! BUT YOU DID! What a hypocrit!To see what planet Walt is really from go to Google.com and type in Walt Bartoo. You will really get a sense of who Walt really is. Then we may all move on to discuss asthma in a caring and supportive environment without being made to feel guilty and belittled.Sue.

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Greyskr,

Someone (it's always me :-)) needs to speak up when people behave like this. Walt has his own beliefs and that's OK. It is when he pushes and belittles someone for not having the same beliefs as him, and then tells people they should not take their meds that I have a problem with him. These kind of posts are a disaster waiting to happen. Not everyone who signs on to a computer and joins a group, realizes that they have to use their own discretion, and can take these posts as facts and apply them with dangerous results.

Thanks for your support (I don't always get it), for doing the right thing and speaking out.

Sue.

Thanks for your reply poodlemummy. I was beginning to think that Iwas the only one who thought Walt was not "on a planet of the braindead", but, well you know.Regards, greyskr

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Greyskr,

Someone (it's always me :-)) needs to speak up when people behave like this. Walt has his own beliefs and that's OK. It is when he pushes and belittles someone for not having the same beliefs as him, and then tells people they should not take their meds that I have a problem with him. These kind of posts are a disaster waiting to happen. Not everyone who signs on to a computer and joins a group, realizes that they have to use their own discretion, and can take these posts as facts and apply them with dangerous results.

Thanks for your support (I don't always get it), for doing the right thing and speaking out.

Sue.

Thanks for your reply poodlemummy. I was beginning to think that Iwas the only one who thought Walt was not "on a planet of the braindead", but, well you know.Regards, greyskr

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Re: Asthma management - Walt Bartoo

Hi Sue: I went in for a test! Not a operation! Get a grip. It was not for Asthma but was for posibble cancer of the eosphagus,or stomach after treatment for Helico Bacter Pylori. Because Sue the bacteria is a possible pre-curser to Cancer. Last i'm not knocking physicians seeking to cure you. I am knocking physicians prescribing meds to treat just symptoms. So what is your problem?

Asthma has a CAUSE, and IF found a CURE! Walt

Wow Walt you really outdid yourself this time!You must be feeling better after your op,last week, you know the one that you went into a hospital to have, that was done by doctors, real ones. Who took your insurance money, which you gladly paid. Because this is America and if you don't want to have an op NO-ONE makes you!!!!! BUT YOU DID! What a hypocrit!To see what planet Walt is really from go to Google.com and type in Walt Bartoo. You will really get a sense of who Walt really is. Then we may all move on to discuss asthma in a caring and supportive environment without being made to feel guilty and belittled.Sue. Hi Jeanne: I really have to take exception to your thinking here Jeanne. To Me people that blindly follow a doctor pushing phony medications versus researching and finding a cure is really playing the game of those who control us and our $ through our ignorance. I for one would resist meds on the basis meds do not cure Asthma but merelly treat the symptoms. Most meds damage even further our lungs and some create death. > > If there is a cure, you first have to realise the cause of the affliction. Once understood REAL MEDICINE can CURE Asthma, and most everything else effecting us. But because everything today is based on $$$$ the cure gets side stepped for treatment of the symptoms only, versus any medical direction towards finding a cure. However your attitude is typical of the masses because we lost something along the way in how people think and reason. I sure am glad I still have all my marbles versus what I read on the forums of what people accept as the norm.> > By the way Asthma is NOT hereditory. Look up and you'll see your asthma spray planes flying over head about everyday. They are Spewing those trails you see in the sky that criss crosses the sky then blends together creating a mist from horizion to horizion. Don't see them? Thats ok go back to sleep. You'll die like most unaware anything is accuring effecting your life, or even your health. Phew!> > Beam me up y i'm on a planet of the brain dead!> > Walt >

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Re: Asthma management - Walt Bartoo

Hi Sue: I went in for a test! Not a operation! Get a grip. It was not for Asthma but was for posibble cancer of the eosphagus,or stomach after treatment for Helico Bacter Pylori. Because Sue the bacteria is a possible pre-curser to Cancer. Last i'm not knocking physicians seeking to cure you. I am knocking physicians prescribing meds to treat just symptoms. So what is your problem?

Asthma has a CAUSE, and IF found a CURE! Walt

Wow Walt you really outdid yourself this time!You must be feeling better after your op,last week, you know the one that you went into a hospital to have, that was done by doctors, real ones. Who took your insurance money, which you gladly paid. Because this is America and if you don't want to have an op NO-ONE makes you!!!!! BUT YOU DID! What a hypocrit!To see what planet Walt is really from go to Google.com and type in Walt Bartoo. You will really get a sense of who Walt really is. Then we may all move on to discuss asthma in a caring and supportive environment without being made to feel guilty and belittled.Sue. Hi Jeanne: I really have to take exception to your thinking here Jeanne. To Me people that blindly follow a doctor pushing phony medications versus researching and finding a cure is really playing the game of those who control us and our $ through our ignorance. I for one would resist meds on the basis meds do not cure Asthma but merelly treat the symptoms. Most meds damage even further our lungs and some create death. > > If there is a cure, you first have to realise the cause of the affliction. Once understood REAL MEDICINE can CURE Asthma, and most everything else effecting us. But because everything today is based on $$$$ the cure gets side stepped for treatment of the symptoms only, versus any medical direction towards finding a cure. However your attitude is typical of the masses because we lost something along the way in how people think and reason. I sure am glad I still have all my marbles versus what I read on the forums of what people accept as the norm.> > By the way Asthma is NOT hereditory. Look up and you'll see your asthma spray planes flying over head about everyday. They are Spewing those trails you see in the sky that criss crosses the sky then blends together creating a mist from horizion to horizion. Don't see them? Thats ok go back to sleep. You'll die like most unaware anything is accuring effecting your life, or even your health. Phew!> > Beam me up y i'm on a planet of the brain dead!> > Walt >

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Walt,

You have taken my email to a totally different place. I suppose it is easier to do that than face up to the fact that you are playing God on this and other boards and it is not appreciated by anyone. Having researched you and your beliefs, I understand that you feel 'we don't get it.' And because we don't follow your lead and path we are wrong. Then we need to feel guilt, because at some point you have had a hand in helping the population of this country/world. Well, Walt many of us do that everyday in our own way, you would probably be very surprised if we all came out and told you just what we give back on a daily basis. What you are missing is that whatever you have given you take back 10 fold when you belittle and attack someone for beliefs that are not yours, or taking medications you do not believe in or need. I am going to leave you with this. You needed to get a biopsy to determine what is wrong with you, we need medication to keep us functioning until they determine what is wrong with us and a way to 'fix it.' You take care of your ailments and we will take care of ours. I would never dream of telling you not to go ahead and do whatever you need to do to keep yourself healthy and at the very least functioning and you should not do it either.

Last but not least Walt, if you can't handle being attacked back, then don't start. BULLY.

Sue.

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Walt,

You have taken my email to a totally different place. I suppose it is easier to do that than face up to the fact that you are playing God on this and other boards and it is not appreciated by anyone. Having researched you and your beliefs, I understand that you feel 'we don't get it.' And because we don't follow your lead and path we are wrong. Then we need to feel guilt, because at some point you have had a hand in helping the population of this country/world. Well, Walt many of us do that everyday in our own way, you would probably be very surprised if we all came out and told you just what we give back on a daily basis. What you are missing is that whatever you have given you take back 10 fold when you belittle and attack someone for beliefs that are not yours, or taking medications you do not believe in or need. I am going to leave you with this. You needed to get a biopsy to determine what is wrong with you, we need medication to keep us functioning until they determine what is wrong with us and a way to 'fix it.' You take care of your ailments and we will take care of ours. I would never dream of telling you not to go ahead and do whatever you need to do to keep yourself healthy and at the very least functioning and you should not do it either.

Last but not least Walt, if you can't handle being attacked back, then don't start. BULLY.

Sue.

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Walt,

You have taken my email to a totally different place. I suppose it is easier to do that than face up to the fact that you are playing God on this and other boards and it is not appreciated by anyone. Having researched you and your beliefs, I understand that you feel 'we don't get it.' And because we don't follow your lead and path we are wrong. Then we need to feel guilt, because at some point you have had a hand in helping the population of this country/world. Well, Walt many of us do that everyday in our own way, you would probably be very surprised if we all came out and told you just what we give back on a daily basis. What you are missing is that whatever you have given you take back 10 fold when you belittle and attack someone for beliefs that are not yours, or taking medications you do not believe in or need. I am going to leave you with this. You needed to get a biopsy to determine what is wrong with you, we need medication to keep us functioning until they determine what is wrong with us and a way to 'fix it.' You take care of your ailments and we will take care of ours. I would never dream of telling you not to go ahead and do whatever you need to do to keep yourself healthy and at the very least functioning and you should not do it either.

Last but not least Walt, if you can't handle being attacked back, then don't start. BULLY.

Sue.

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Poodle - Curly haired dog. Very intelligent, probably more so than Walt

Mummy - British term for mother

I rescue poodles. I also sign my real name to all of my emails. So what is the problem?

Sue.

Hi Poodle Mummy??

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Poodle - Curly haired dog. Very intelligent, probably more so than Walt

Mummy - British term for mother

I rescue poodles. I also sign my real name to all of my emails. So what is the problem?

Sue.

Hi Poodle Mummy??

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Re: Asthma management - Walt Bartoo

Hi GreySkr. But I am. People that live in total illusion aren't operating with a full set of marbles. I Know, I know its just in my Imagination! Dream on sleeper. Reality is a totally different picture then whats believe! THe few who see this scratch thier heads over the ones who don't.

Walt

Thanks for your reply poodlemummy. I was beginning to think that Iwas the only one who thought Walt was not "on a planet of the braindead", but, well you know.Regards, greyskr> Hi Jeanne: I really have to take exception to your thinking here > Jeanne. To Me people that blindly follow a doctor pushing phony > medications versus researching and finding a cure is really playing > the game of those who control us and our $ through our ignorance. I > for one would resist meds on the basis meds do not cure Asthma but > merelly treat the symptoms. Most meds damage even further our lungs > and some create death. > > > > If there is a cure, you first have to realise the cause of the > affliction. Once understood REAL MEDICINE can CURE Asthma, and most > everything else effecting us. But because everything today is based > on $$$$ the cure gets side stepped for treatment of the symptoms > only, versus any medical direction towards finding a cure. However > your attitude is typical of the masses because we lost something > along the way in how people think and reason. I sure am glad Istill > have all my marbles versus what I read on the forums of what people > accept as the norm.> > > > By the way Asthma is NOT hereditory. Look up and you'll seeyour > asthma spray planes flying over head about everyday. They are > Spewing those trails you see in the sky that criss crosses the sky > then blends together creating a mist from horizion to horizion. > Don't see them? Thats ok go back to sleep. You'll die like most > unaware anything is accuring effecting your life, or even your > health. Phew!> > > > Beam me up y i'm on a planet of the brain dead!> > > > Walt > >

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Re: Asthma management - Walt Bartoo

Hi GreySkr. But I am. People that live in total illusion aren't operating with a full set of marbles. I Know, I know its just in my Imagination! Dream on sleeper. Reality is a totally different picture then whats believe! THe few who see this scratch thier heads over the ones who don't.

Walt

Thanks for your reply poodlemummy. I was beginning to think that Iwas the only one who thought Walt was not "on a planet of the braindead", but, well you know.Regards, greyskr> Hi Jeanne: I really have to take exception to your thinking here > Jeanne. To Me people that blindly follow a doctor pushing phony > medications versus researching and finding a cure is really playing > the game of those who control us and our $ through our ignorance. I > for one would resist meds on the basis meds do not cure Asthma but > merelly treat the symptoms. Most meds damage even further our lungs > and some create death. > > > > If there is a cure, you first have to realise the cause of the > affliction. Once understood REAL MEDICINE can CURE Asthma, and most > everything else effecting us. But because everything today is based > on $$$$ the cure gets side stepped for treatment of the symptoms > only, versus any medical direction towards finding a cure. However > your attitude is typical of the masses because we lost something > along the way in how people think and reason. I sure am glad Istill > have all my marbles versus what I read on the forums of what people > accept as the norm.> > > > By the way Asthma is NOT hereditory. Look up and you'll seeyour > asthma spray planes flying over head about everyday. They are > Spewing those trails you see in the sky that criss crosses the sky > then blends together creating a mist from horizion to horizion. > Don't see them? Thats ok go back to sleep. You'll die like most > unaware anything is accuring effecting your life, or even your > health. Phew!> > > > Beam me up y i'm on a planet of the brain dead!> > > > Walt > >

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Re: Re: Asthma management - Walt Bartoo

Hi Poodle Mummy??

Walt,

I can only quote what YOU wrote! You went into hospital under the care of a doctor to have biopsies done of your Barrettes esophagus and stomach. You were worried that you may not come through it, so that tells me you had a general anesthetic. If you had invasive surgery and a general anesthetic that is an operation!!

(Walt) Yes invasive procedures are a form of operation. You might note they to were concerned! I was not that well anesthesed. I was awake for all of it. NASTY!

But I did survive. Prior I was not doing very well, and had concerns over the whole thing because of one particular doctor.

You also stated that you had suffered for a very long time with this condition for which you were being treated. Well, guess what, we are all suffering with Asthma, so you have had treatment for what ails you and been advised by a doctor and treated obviously for your condition, but you knock everyone here for doing the same thing, you just choose not to discuss it in this particular group.

So what is your problem?

(walt) I'm not knocking anyone. I'm stating theres a difference of treating smyptoms versus trying to find the cause and cure the condition. Its a well know fact that the third highest cause of death is doctor prescribed medications, and treatment by doctors.

It's also a well known fact we live ina CAUSE AND EFFECT society.

Just for you i'll spell that out. In the ILLUSION your life, they create things to make money. Theres no money in medicine curing the sick. There is in treating their symptoms. Look at every field of anything and if you can see you'll find many examples of exactly what I just stated.

Your problem Walt is that you are a hypocrite. You get treatment, but we shouldn't.

(Walt) Bull! Not what i stated at all! I'm not a hypocrite as you state either. You totally seeing what you want to see in what I'm stating. Get a grip!

One day you are going to advise, or abuse someone to the point that they may take you to heart and stop taking their medication. I hope you are ready for that responsibility. You have already been asked not to play doctor on the other group and I am telling you the same here.

(Walt) Nobodies playing anything here. I'm merelly stating facts. Treating symptoms does not cure anything. But it dos satisfy the other persons need to have you come back and part with your hard earned money time and time again.

Asthma is also a symptom of different causes and until a cure is found we have medication to keep us functioning and in some cases alive. Buteyko is NOT the cure. I am glad you found a satisfactory symptom release for 'your asthma.' But don't attack peoples stance, unless you have tried to breathe in their shoes and are ready to support your own actions.

(Walt) I'm well aware of this. I'm also into finding out alot of unknowns your not even concerned about. You see I am a investigative person digging deep into cause and effect scam. One reason I watch my butt because they do not want you or anyone to see the truth. Reason being Control and Money!

Hey Walt, I just got a grip, right round your esophagus, I would back off if I were you, as you might need albuterol when I'm finished with you.

(Walt) Hey Sue! Stick your attitude where the sun don't shine. Don't threaten me with your BS. If you could read you'd understand how deeply myself and others care about everyone. I might add my lifes been on the line lots of times because of helping others. Lots of my friends are dead who died looking out for folks just like you. I often ask myself if its even worth it.

Walt

Sue.

Hi Sue: I went in for a test! Not a operation! Get a grip. It was not for Asthma but was for posibble cancer of the eosphagus,or stomach after treatment for Helico Bacter Pylori. Because Sue the bacteria is a possible pre-curser to Cancer. Last i'm not knocking physicians seeking to cure you. I am knocking physicians prescribing meds to treat just symptoms. So what is your problem?

Asthma has a CAUSE, and IF found a CURE! Walt

Wow Walt you really outdid yourself this time!You must be feeling better after your op,last week, you know the one that you went into a hospital to have, that was done by doctors, real ones. Who took your insurance money, which you gladly paid. Because this is America and if you don't want to have an op NO-ONE makes you!!!!! BUT YOU DID! What a hypocrit!To see what planet Walt is really from go to Google.com and type in Walt Bartoo. You will really get a sense of who Walt really is. Then we may all move on to discuss asthma in a caring and supportive environment without being made to feel guilty and belittled.Sue.

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Re: Re: Asthma management - Walt Bartoo

Hi Poodle Mummy??

Walt,

I can only quote what YOU wrote! You went into hospital under the care of a doctor to have biopsies done of your Barrettes esophagus and stomach. You were worried that you may not come through it, so that tells me you had a general anesthetic. If you had invasive surgery and a general anesthetic that is an operation!!

(Walt) Yes invasive procedures are a form of operation. You might note they to were concerned! I was not that well anesthesed. I was awake for all of it. NASTY!

But I did survive. Prior I was not doing very well, and had concerns over the whole thing because of one particular doctor.

You also stated that you had suffered for a very long time with this condition for which you were being treated. Well, guess what, we are all suffering with Asthma, so you have had treatment for what ails you and been advised by a doctor and treated obviously for your condition, but you knock everyone here for doing the same thing, you just choose not to discuss it in this particular group.

So what is your problem?

(walt) I'm not knocking anyone. I'm stating theres a difference of treating smyptoms versus trying to find the cause and cure the condition. Its a well know fact that the third highest cause of death is doctor prescribed medications, and treatment by doctors.

It's also a well known fact we live ina CAUSE AND EFFECT society.

Just for you i'll spell that out. In the ILLUSION your life, they create things to make money. Theres no money in medicine curing the sick. There is in treating their symptoms. Look at every field of anything and if you can see you'll find many examples of exactly what I just stated.

Your problem Walt is that you are a hypocrite. You get treatment, but we shouldn't.

(Walt) Bull! Not what i stated at all! I'm not a hypocrite as you state either. You totally seeing what you want to see in what I'm stating. Get a grip!

One day you are going to advise, or abuse someone to the point that they may take you to heart and stop taking their medication. I hope you are ready for that responsibility. You have already been asked not to play doctor on the other group and I am telling you the same here.

(Walt) Nobodies playing anything here. I'm merelly stating facts. Treating symptoms does not cure anything. But it dos satisfy the other persons need to have you come back and part with your hard earned money time and time again.

Asthma is also a symptom of different causes and until a cure is found we have medication to keep us functioning and in some cases alive. Buteyko is NOT the cure. I am glad you found a satisfactory symptom release for 'your asthma.' But don't attack peoples stance, unless you have tried to breathe in their shoes and are ready to support your own actions.

(Walt) I'm well aware of this. I'm also into finding out alot of unknowns your not even concerned about. You see I am a investigative person digging deep into cause and effect scam. One reason I watch my butt because they do not want you or anyone to see the truth. Reason being Control and Money!

Hey Walt, I just got a grip, right round your esophagus, I would back off if I were you, as you might need albuterol when I'm finished with you.

(Walt) Hey Sue! Stick your attitude where the sun don't shine. Don't threaten me with your BS. If you could read you'd understand how deeply myself and others care about everyone. I might add my lifes been on the line lots of times because of helping others. Lots of my friends are dead who died looking out for folks just like you. I often ask myself if its even worth it.

Walt

Sue.

Hi Sue: I went in for a test! Not a operation! Get a grip. It was not for Asthma but was for posibble cancer of the eosphagus,or stomach after treatment for Helico Bacter Pylori. Because Sue the bacteria is a possible pre-curser to Cancer. Last i'm not knocking physicians seeking to cure you. I am knocking physicians prescribing meds to treat just symptoms. So what is your problem?

Asthma has a CAUSE, and IF found a CURE! Walt

Wow Walt you really outdid yourself this time!You must be feeling better after your op,last week, you know the one that you went into a hospital to have, that was done by doctors, real ones. Who took your insurance money, which you gladly paid. Because this is America and if you don't want to have an op NO-ONE makes you!!!!! BUT YOU DID! What a hypocrit!To see what planet Walt is really from go to Google.com and type in Walt Bartoo. You will really get a sense of who Walt really is. Then we may all move on to discuss asthma in a caring and supportive environment without being made to feel guilty and belittled.Sue.

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Re: Re: Asthma management - Walt Bartoo

Hi Poodlemummy:

Walt,

You have taken my email to a totally different place. I suppose it is easier to do that than face up to the fact that you are playing God on this and other boards and it is not appreciated by anyone.

(Walt) Are you daft? I merelly stated and was unheard! That treating smyptoms is not a cure. I then further stated we live in a CAUSE and EFFECT society that plays on our ills. The God part of the above is solely your dillusion not mine. I guess in your case THIMK is non-existent. In other words yyou blow off the handle when someone is merelly stating HEY LOOK AT THIS! Maybe it isn't like what your thinking or seeing it? I fail to see where your thoughts about me reflect everyone elses on this list. It might be there are some really intelligent folks on it. I'm sure there are. But it APPEARS YOU aren't one of these!

Having researched you and your beliefs, I understand that you feel 'we don't get it.' And because we don't follow your lead and path we are wrong. Then we need to feel guilt, because at some point you have had a hand in helping the population of this country/world. Well, Walt many of us do that everyday in our own way, you would probably be very surprised if we all came out and told you just what we give back on a daily basis. What you are missing is that whatever you have given you take back 10 fold when you belittle and attack someone for beliefs that are not yours, or taking medications you do not believe in or need.

(Walt) Lets stop right here a moment. First off I do not believe in ANYTHING. Nada to blief! I do live by what I know is true! Unfortunately few others see the truth and knowing versus bloieving in lies is not what turns the wheels in our society. We are a society that lknows very little but lives in total illusion of beliefs that are based on lies. FACT NOT FICTION. If that statemrent upsets you so sorry its true! On medications TAKE WHATEVER YOU WANT no problem here. I hope your whole pay check goes to meds. If so you are doing exact;ly what those who designed your belief system have always hoped for. $$$$$$$ in thier pockets while you eat and live on crumbs and poverty. VERY SMART POODLE MUMMY! Hey horraaay for you lady. Your alligations i'm attacxking are false too!

I merelly stated hey LOOK AT THIS. Maybe its not like you thought and could be fixed by doing this or that. HEY! Medicate your dead brain to death. But maybe just maybe someone else outthere might see the folly of taking dezigner meds the rest of their lives and be seeking relief in a cure. Horaay if they exist! Why because if they do my input might help certain people and is not in vain.

I am going to leave you with this. You needed to get a biopsy to determine what is wrong with you, we need medication to keep us functioning until they determine what is wrong with us and a

Last but not least Walt, if you can't handle being attacked back, then don't start. BULLY.

(Walt) My hands not on your eosaphagus Sue! Your hands on mine, BULLY! Come over here and cuddle some and maybe with a little sugar you will get you what you really want a little attention. Grin.

On the above procedure i've been three steps ahead of the docs all along. Diagnosed everything way ahead of them. But because (read this carefully) knowing what was wrong in advance. They will not treat it till they themselves biopsie it. All along I had to tell them what was wrong and why! Not once but several times that came back exactly like I told them. But again they will not treat it towards a cure till they themselves see the cause! Almost impossible today to impliment in the way things word. Its back to tests and more tests to treat the symptom versus cure the Desease. Whether you see this or not its a FACT. Its a racket a scam! Why because there is 0 $$$ in CURES!

Walt

Sue.

[Guest guest]

Re: Re: Asthma management - Walt Bartoo

Hi Poodlemummy:

Walt,

You have taken my email to a totally different place. I suppose it is easier to do that than face up to the fact that you are playing God on this and other boards and it is not appreciated by anyone.

(Walt) Are you daft? I merelly stated and was unheard! That treating smyptoms is not a cure. I then further stated we live in a CAUSE and EFFECT society that plays on our ills. The God part of the above is solely your dillusion not mine. I guess in your case THIMK is non-existent. In other words yyou blow off the handle when someone is merelly stating HEY LOOK AT THIS! Maybe it isn't like what your thinking or seeing it? I fail to see where your thoughts about me reflect everyone elses on this list. It might be there are some really intelligent folks on it. I'm sure there are. But it APPEARS YOU aren't one of these!

Having researched you and your beliefs, I understand that you feel 'we don't get it.' And because we don't follow your lead and path we are wrong. Then we need to feel guilt, because at some point you have had a hand in helping the population of this country/world. Well, Walt many of us do that everyday in our own way, you would probably be very surprised if we all came out and told you just what we give back on a daily basis. What you are missing is that whatever you have given you take back 10 fold when you belittle and attack someone for beliefs that are not yours, or taking medications you do not believe in or need.

(Walt) Lets stop right here a moment. First off I do not believe in ANYTHING. Nada to blief! I do live by what I know is true! Unfortunately few others see the truth and knowing versus bloieving in lies is not what turns the wheels in our society. We are a society that lknows very little but lives in total illusion of beliefs that are based on lies. FACT NOT FICTION. If that statemrent upsets you so sorry its true! On medications TAKE WHATEVER YOU WANT no problem here. I hope your whole pay check goes to meds. If so you are doing exact;ly what those who designed your belief system have always hoped for. $$$$$$$ in thier pockets while you eat and live on crumbs and poverty. VERY SMART POODLE MUMMY! Hey horraaay for you lady. Your alligations i'm attacxking are false too!

I merelly stated hey LOOK AT THIS. Maybe its not like you thought and could be fixed by doing this or that. HEY! Medicate your dead brain to death. But maybe just maybe someone else outthere might see the folly of taking dezigner meds the rest of their lives and be seeking relief in a cure. Horaay if they exist! Why because if they do my input might help certain people and is not in vain.

I am going to leave you with this. You needed to get a biopsy to determine what is wrong with you, we need medication to keep us functioning until they determine what is wrong with us and a

Last but not least Walt, if you can't handle being attacked back, then don't start. BULLY.

(Walt) My hands not on your eosaphagus Sue! Your hands on mine, BULLY! Come over here and cuddle some and maybe with a little sugar you will get you what you really want a little attention. Grin.

On the above procedure i've been three steps ahead of the docs all along. Diagnosed everything way ahead of them. But because (read this carefully) knowing what was wrong in advance. They will not treat it till they themselves biopsie it. All along I had to tell them what was wrong and why! Not once but several times that came back exactly like I told them. But again they will not treat it towards a cure till they themselves see the cause! Almost impossible today to impliment in the way things word. Its back to tests and more tests to treat the symptom versus cure the Desease. Whether you see this or not its a FACT. Its a racket a scam! Why because there is 0 $$$ in CURES!

Walt

Sue.

[Guest guest]

Re: Re: Asthma management - Walt Bartoo

Hi Sue! See it worked! Grin. Walt

Poodle - Curly haired dog. Very intelligent, probably more so than Walt

Mummy - British term for mother

I rescue poodles. I also sign my real name to all of my emails. So what is the problem?

Sue.

Hi Poodle Mummy??

[Guest guest]

Re: Re: Asthma management - Walt Bartoo

Hi Sue! See it worked! Grin. Walt

Poodle - Curly haired dog. Very intelligent, probably more so than Walt

Mummy - British term for mother

I rescue poodles. I also sign my real name to all of my emails. So what is the problem?

Sue.

Hi Poodle Mummy??

[Guest guest]

Re: Re: Asthma management - Walt Bartoo

Hi Sue! See it worked! Grin. Walt

Poodle - Curly haired dog. Very intelligent, probably more so than Walt

Mummy - British term for mother

I rescue poodles. I also sign my real name to all of my emails. So what is the problem?

Sue.

Hi Poodle Mummy??

[Guest guest]

BINGO

Sue.

Are you the same Walt Bartoo who wrote to a "IUFO mailing list" about Nuclear Subterrenes and Underground Tunneling Machines that use Brown's gas which melts solid rock which then cools to a flexible, solid round hole that has tremendous strength? And that tunnels and cities have been built beneath the earth? Or is that some other Walt Bartoo?

[Guest guest]

BINGO

Sue.

Are you the same Walt Bartoo who wrote to a "IUFO mailing list" about Nuclear Subterrenes and Underground Tunneling Machines that use Brown's gas which melts solid rock which then cools to a flexible, solid round hole that has tremendous strength? And that tunnels and cities have been built beneath the earth? Or is that some other Walt Bartoo?

[Guest guest]

Re: Asthma management - Walt Bartoo> > Hi GreySkr. But I am. People that live in total illusion aren't operating with a full set of marbles. I Know, I know its just in my Imagination! Dream on sleeper. Reality is a totally different picture then whats believe! THe few who see this scratch thier heads over the ones who don't.> > Walt

[Guest guest]

Re: Asthma management - Walt Bartoo> > Hi GreySkr. But I am. People that live in total illusion aren't operating with a full set of marbles. I Know, I know its just in my Imagination! Dream on sleeper. Reality is a totally different picture then whats believe! THe few who see this scratch thier heads over the ones who don't.> > Walt