Guest guest Posted February 16, 2012 Report Share Posted February 16, 2012 Thanks for posting it's good to have these stories to keep us going.Is the nagalase test available through anyone in the Uk? Has anyone experience of testing for high levels.KathSent from my iPad thanks for sharing...x > > > > > > > > > A tough nut severe autistic 13 year old child. > > http://drbradstreet.org/2012/02/15/gcmaf-is-exceeding-my-best-expectations-a > nd-parents-agree/ > > > > _ > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 16, 2012 Report Share Posted February 16, 2012 Thanks for posting it's good to have these stories to keep us going.Is the nagalase test available through anyone in the Uk? Has anyone experience of testing for high levels.KathSent from my iPad thanks for sharing...x > > > > > > > > > A tough nut severe autistic 13 year old child. > > http://drbradstreet.org/2012/02/15/gcmaf-is-exceeding-my-best-expectations-a > nd-parents-agree/ > > > > _ > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 16, 2012 Report Share Posted February 16, 2012 More info here http://www.gcmaf.eu/info/From: Kath Reply-To: "Autism-Biomedical-Europe " <Autism-Biomedical-Europe >Date: Thu, 16 Feb 2012 10:39:36 +0000To: "Autism-Biomedical-Europe " <Autism-Biomedical-Europe >Cc: "Autism-Biomedical-Europe " <Autism-Biomedical-Europe >Subject: Re: Re: response to GcMAF in 13 yo severe ASD child Thanks for posting it's good to have these stories to keep us going.Is the nagalase test available through anyone in the Uk? Has anyone experience of testing for high levels.KathSent from my iPad thanks for sharing...x > > > > > > > > > A tough nut severe autistic 13 year old child. > > http://drbradstreet.org/2012/02/15/gcmaf-is-exceeding-my-best-expectations-a > nd-parents-agree/ > > > > _ > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 16, 2012 Report Share Posted February 16, 2012 Can you do the nagalese test at breakspear ? regards Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 16, 2012 Report Share Posted February 16, 2012 PS Bradsteet apparently uses much lower doses (he calls them homeopathic shots) than these people recommend on their siteReply-To: "Autism-Biomedical-Europe " <Autism-Biomedical-Europe >Date: Thu, 16 Feb 2012 11:18:18 +0000To: "Autism-Biomedical-Europe " <Autism-Biomedical-Europe >Subject: Re: Re: response to GcMAF in 13 yo severe ASD child More info here http://www.gcmaf.eu/info/From: Kath Reply-To: "Autism-Biomedical-Europe " <Autism-Biomedical-Europe >Date: Thu, 16 Feb 2012 10:39:36 +0000To: "Autism-Biomedical-Europe " <Autism-Biomedical-Europe >Cc: "Autism-Biomedical-Europe " <Autism-Biomedical-Europe >Subject: Re: Re: response to GcMAF in 13 yo severe ASD child Thanks for posting it's good to have these stories to keep us going.Is the nagalase test available through anyone in the Uk? Has anyone experience of testing for high levels.KathSent from my iPad thanks for sharing...x > > > > > > > > > A tough nut severe autistic 13 year old child. > > http://drbradstreet.org/2012/02/15/gcmaf-is-exceeding-my-best-expectations-a > nd-parents-agree/ > > > > _ > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 16, 2012 Report Share Posted February 16, 2012 PS Bradsteet apparently uses much lower doses (he calls them homeopathic shots) than these people recommend on their siteReply-To: "Autism-Biomedical-Europe " <Autism-Biomedical-Europe >Date: Thu, 16 Feb 2012 11:18:18 +0000To: "Autism-Biomedical-Europe " <Autism-Biomedical-Europe >Subject: Re: Re: response to GcMAF in 13 yo severe ASD child More info here http://www.gcmaf.eu/info/From: Kath Reply-To: "Autism-Biomedical-Europe " <Autism-Biomedical-Europe >Date: Thu, 16 Feb 2012 10:39:36 +0000To: "Autism-Biomedical-Europe " <Autism-Biomedical-Europe >Cc: "Autism-Biomedical-Europe " <Autism-Biomedical-Europe >Subject: Re: Re: response to GcMAF in 13 yo severe ASD child Thanks for posting it's good to have these stories to keep us going.Is the nagalase test available through anyone in the Uk? Has anyone experience of testing for high levels.KathSent from my iPad thanks for sharing...x > > > > > > > > > A tough nut severe autistic 13 year old child. > > http://drbradstreet.org/2012/02/15/gcmaf-is-exceeding-my-best-expectations-a > nd-parents-agree/ > > > > _ > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 16, 2012 Report Share Posted February 16, 2012 PS Bradsteet apparently uses much lower doses (he calls them homeopathic shots) than these people recommend on their siteReply-To: "Autism-Biomedical-Europe " <Autism-Biomedical-Europe >Date: Thu, 16 Feb 2012 11:18:18 +0000To: "Autism-Biomedical-Europe " <Autism-Biomedical-Europe >Subject: Re: Re: response to GcMAF in 13 yo severe ASD child More info here http://www.gcmaf.eu/info/From: Kath Reply-To: "Autism-Biomedical-Europe " <Autism-Biomedical-Europe >Date: Thu, 16 Feb 2012 10:39:36 +0000To: "Autism-Biomedical-Europe " <Autism-Biomedical-Europe >Cc: "Autism-Biomedical-Europe " <Autism-Biomedical-Europe >Subject: Re: Re: response to GcMAF in 13 yo severe ASD child Thanks for posting it's good to have these stories to keep us going.Is the nagalase test available through anyone in the Uk? Has anyone experience of testing for high levels.KathSent from my iPad thanks for sharing...x > > > > > > > > > A tough nut severe autistic 13 year old child. > > http://drbradstreet.org/2012/02/15/gcmaf-is-exceeding-my-best-expectations-a > nd-parents-agree/ > > > > _ > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 17, 2012 Report Share Posted February 17, 2012 Tried to post yesterday on this, can someone explain how this ties in with mercury and/or any of the comorbids we see in autism? Are they saying that if someone has been supplementing with Vit D and not seen cognitive improvements then this enzyme will make the difference? has been on D since the days of being under Dr D and he has done very well on it but not cognitively, only in the area's of growth ie height, teeth, etc. I had actually reached the point of wondering if we had been giving this for too long what with the strange bone growths we are seeing. Would really like to see how everything comes together and how we would know who would be a possible candidate as the story is very exciting, especially as this is a severe 13yr old. I wonder though why it isn't a main stream story. Vicky Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 17, 2012 Report Share Posted February 17, 2012 Tried to post yesterday on this, can someone explain how this ties in with mercury and/or any of the comorbids we see in autism? Are they saying that if someone has been supplementing with Vit D and not seen cognitive improvements then this enzyme will make the difference? has been on D since the days of being under Dr D and he has done very well on it but not cognitively, only in the area's of growth ie height, teeth, etc. I had actually reached the point of wondering if we had been giving this for too long what with the strange bone growths we are seeing. Would really like to see how everything comes together and how we would know who would be a possible candidate as the story is very exciting, especially as this is a severe 13yr old. I wonder though why it isn't a main stream story. Vicky Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 18, 2012 Report Share Posted February 18, 2012 Thanks June for clearing that up, over the years there have been so many things put forward as possible solutions or causes for our kids problems, if they were all explained as well as you just did then life would be so much easier. I don't pretend to do science so that's why I ask about whether things are in the mainstream or not as often they will have a simpler explanation for people like myself who are just mums. How does this work if someone has an immune system that appears to be in overdrive? Or is it just the same either way? We did LDN with as prescribed by ATT, seen absolutley nothing from it at all [i know this is not LDN] Our biggest improvements with interventions have come from physical health which have been life changing for in their own right but very little cognitive improvements except maybe slow and small gains with chelation Vicky Re: Re: response to GcMAF in 13 yo severe ASD child Hi, GcMAF is actually available in Holland and I believe this is where he gets it. Last Tuesday I had my sons done the test from Biolab in London through the Autism Treatment Trust. I have originally contacted the centre in Holland and they said Buolab does the test in London for them, then I have ATT if the result can go to them and is all gone fine. I am now waiting for the result. Nura Sent from my iPhone Hi Vicky, Much of this treatment comes from cancer research. Briefly, cancer cells send out an enzyme called nagalase to netralise the binding-protein for Vit D, GcMaf so that macrophages in the blood don't get message to attack them; immune system is suppressed & cancer cells can grow. In autism, the immune system is compromised by inflammation, bacterial & viral infections, etc cause by external agents such as mercury & other environmental toxins. In a sense Dr Bradstreet has seized upon this research to effect similar changes in autism, that the body has to heal but I imagine only after mercury & toxins are removed. So many factoes to account for, for success, so early days still & its very expensive, only available from himself! June > > Tried to post yesterday on this, can someone explain how this ties in with > mercury and/or any of the comorbids we see in autism? > Are they saying that if someone has been supplementing with Vit D and not > seen cognitive improvements then this enzyme will make the difference? > has been on D since the days of being under Dr D and he has done very > well on it but not cognitively, only in the area's of growth ie height, > teeth, etc. > I had actually reached the point of wondering if we had been giving this > for too long what with the strange bone growths we are seeing. > Would really like to see how everything comes together and how we would > know who would be a possible candidate as the story is very exciting, > especially as this is a severe 13yr old. > I wonder though why it isn't a main stream story. > Vicky > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 18, 2012 Report Share Posted February 18, 2012 Thanks June for clearing that up, over the years there have been so many things put forward as possible solutions or causes for our kids problems, if they were all explained as well as you just did then life would be so much easier. I don't pretend to do science so that's why I ask about whether things are in the mainstream or not as often they will have a simpler explanation for people like myself who are just mums. How does this work if someone has an immune system that appears to be in overdrive? Or is it just the same either way? We did LDN with as prescribed by ATT, seen absolutley nothing from it at all [i know this is not LDN] Our biggest improvements with interventions have come from physical health which have been life changing for in their own right but very little cognitive improvements except maybe slow and small gains with chelation Vicky Re: Re: response to GcMAF in 13 yo severe ASD child Hi, GcMAF is actually available in Holland and I believe this is where he gets it. Last Tuesday I had my sons done the test from Biolab in London through the Autism Treatment Trust. I have originally contacted the centre in Holland and they said Buolab does the test in London for them, then I have ATT if the result can go to them and is all gone fine. I am now waiting for the result. Nura Sent from my iPhone Hi Vicky, Much of this treatment comes from cancer research. Briefly, cancer cells send out an enzyme called nagalase to netralise the binding-protein for Vit D, GcMaf so that macrophages in the blood don't get message to attack them; immune system is suppressed & cancer cells can grow. In autism, the immune system is compromised by inflammation, bacterial & viral infections, etc cause by external agents such as mercury & other environmental toxins. In a sense Dr Bradstreet has seized upon this research to effect similar changes in autism, that the body has to heal but I imagine only after mercury & toxins are removed. So many factoes to account for, for success, so early days still & its very expensive, only available from himself! June > > Tried to post yesterday on this, can someone explain how this ties in with > mercury and/or any of the comorbids we see in autism? > Are they saying that if someone has been supplementing with Vit D and not > seen cognitive improvements then this enzyme will make the difference? > has been on D since the days of being under Dr D and he has done very > well on it but not cognitively, only in the area's of growth ie height, > teeth, etc. > I had actually reached the point of wondering if we had been giving this > for too long what with the strange bone growths we are seeing. > Would really like to see how everything comes together and how we would > know who would be a possible candidate as the story is very exciting, > especially as this is a severe 13yr old. > I wonder though why it isn't a main stream story. > Vicky > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 18, 2012 Report Share Posted February 18, 2012 Thanks June for clearing that up, over the years there have been so many things put forward as possible solutions or causes for our kids problems, if they were all explained as well as you just did then life would be so much easier. I don't pretend to do science so that's why I ask about whether things are in the mainstream or not as often they will have a simpler explanation for people like myself who are just mums. How does this work if someone has an immune system that appears to be in overdrive? Or is it just the same either way? We did LDN with as prescribed by ATT, seen absolutley nothing from it at all [i know this is not LDN] Our biggest improvements with interventions have come from physical health which have been life changing for in their own right but very little cognitive improvements except maybe slow and small gains with chelation Vicky Re: Re: response to GcMAF in 13 yo severe ASD child Hi, GcMAF is actually available in Holland and I believe this is where he gets it. Last Tuesday I had my sons done the test from Biolab in London through the Autism Treatment Trust. I have originally contacted the centre in Holland and they said Buolab does the test in London for them, then I have ATT if the result can go to them and is all gone fine. I am now waiting for the result. Nura Sent from my iPhone Hi Vicky, Much of this treatment comes from cancer research. Briefly, cancer cells send out an enzyme called nagalase to netralise the binding-protein for Vit D, GcMaf so that macrophages in the blood don't get message to attack them; immune system is suppressed & cancer cells can grow. In autism, the immune system is compromised by inflammation, bacterial & viral infections, etc cause by external agents such as mercury & other environmental toxins. In a sense Dr Bradstreet has seized upon this research to effect similar changes in autism, that the body has to heal but I imagine only after mercury & toxins are removed. So many factoes to account for, for success, so early days still & its very expensive, only available from himself! June > > Tried to post yesterday on this, can someone explain how this ties in with > mercury and/or any of the comorbids we see in autism? > Are they saying that if someone has been supplementing with Vit D and not > seen cognitive improvements then this enzyme will make the difference? > has been on D since the days of being under Dr D and he has done very > well on it but not cognitively, only in the area's of growth ie height, > teeth, etc. > I had actually reached the point of wondering if we had been giving this > for too long what with the strange bone growths we are seeing. > Would really like to see how everything comes together and how we would > know who would be a possible candidate as the story is very exciting, > especially as this is a severe 13yr old. > I wonder though why it isn't a main stream story. > Vicky > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Guest guest Posted February 18, 2012 Report Share Posted February 18, 2012 hi, does anyone has more info about bradstreet I don't seem to find a lot .....i.e treatment options and prices regards Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Guest guest Posted February 18, 2012 Report Share Posted February 18, 2012 hi, does anyone has more info about bradstreet I don't seem to find a lot .....i.e treatment options and prices regards Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 19, 2012 Report Share Posted February 19, 2012 Hi June,I spoke with Dr Tapan, from US but also in the centre in Holland, he confirm with me is the GcMAF available in Holland as injection. I know my son will have treatment from there if his Nagalase is high so will keep you updated. Nura Sent from my iPhone Hi Nura,The GcMaf available from Holland is the homeopathic version from BioPure called KMAF by Dr Klinghardt. These are oral drops and not injections. June> > >> > > Tried to post yesterday on this, can someone explain how this ties in with > > > mercury and/or any of the comorbids we see in autism?> > > Are they saying that if someone has been supplementing with Vit D and not > > > seen cognitive improvements then this enzyme will make the difference?> > > has been on D since the days of being under Dr D and he has done very > > > well on it but not cognitively, only in the area's of growth ie height, > > > teeth, etc.> > > I had actually reached the point of wondering if we had been giving this > > > for too long what with the strange bone growths we are seeing.> > > Would really like to see how everything comes together and how we would > > > know who would be a possible candidate as the story is very exciting, > > > especially as this is a severe 13yr old.> > > I wonder though why it isn't a main stream story.> > > Vicky> > >> > > >> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 19, 2012 Report Share Posted February 19, 2012 Hi June,I spoke with Dr Tapan, from US but also in the centre in Holland, he confirm with me is the GcMAF available in Holland as injection. I know my son will have treatment from there if his Nagalase is high so will keep you updated. Nura Sent from my iPhone Hi Nura,The GcMaf available from Holland is the homeopathic version from BioPure called KMAF by Dr Klinghardt. These are oral drops and not injections. June> > >> > > Tried to post yesterday on this, can someone explain how this ties in with > > > mercury and/or any of the comorbids we see in autism?> > > Are they saying that if someone has been supplementing with Vit D and not > > > seen cognitive improvements then this enzyme will make the difference?> > > has been on D since the days of being under Dr D and he has done very > > > well on it but not cognitively, only in the area's of growth ie height, > > > teeth, etc.> > > I had actually reached the point of wondering if we had been giving this > > > for too long what with the strange bone growths we are seeing.> > > Would really like to see how everything comes together and how we would > > > know who would be a possible candidate as the story is very exciting, > > > especially as this is a severe 13yr old.> > > I wonder though why it isn't a main stream story.> > > Vicky> > >> > > >> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 19, 2012 Report Share Posted February 19, 2012 Hi June,I spoke with Dr Tapan, from US but also in the centre in Holland, he confirm with me is the GcMAF available in Holland as injection. I know my son will have treatment from there if his Nagalase is high so will keep you updated. Nura Sent from my iPhone Hi Nura,The GcMaf available from Holland is the homeopathic version from BioPure called KMAF by Dr Klinghardt. These are oral drops and not injections. June> > >> > > Tried to post yesterday on this, can someone explain how this ties in with > > > mercury and/or any of the comorbids we see in autism?> > > Are they saying that if someone has been supplementing with Vit D and not > > > seen cognitive improvements then this enzyme will make the difference?> > > has been on D since the days of being under Dr D and he has done very > > > well on it but not cognitively, only in the area's of growth ie height, > > > teeth, etc.> > > I had actually reached the point of wondering if we had been giving this > > > for too long what with the strange bone growths we are seeing.> > > Would really like to see how everything comes together and how we would > > > know who would be a possible candidate as the story is very exciting, > > > especially as this is a severe 13yr old.> > > I wonder though why it isn't a main stream story.> > > Vicky> > >> > > >> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 19, 2012 Report Share Posted February 19, 2012 June, do you know anyone who is using those, any reports good or bad?Natasa Reply-To: "Autism-Biomedical-Europe " <Autism-Biomedical-Europe >Date: Sun, 19 Feb 2012 22:55:18 -0000To: "Autism-Biomedical-Europe " <Autism-Biomedical-Europe >Subject: Re: response to GcMAF in 13 yo severe ASD child Hi Nura, The GcMaf available from Holland is the homeopathic version from BioPure called KMAF by Dr Klinghardt. These are oral drops and not injections. June Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 19, 2012 Report Share Posted February 19, 2012 June, do you know anyone who is using those, any reports good or bad?Natasa Reply-To: "Autism-Biomedical-Europe " <Autism-Biomedical-Europe >Date: Sun, 19 Feb 2012 22:55:18 -0000To: "Autism-Biomedical-Europe " <Autism-Biomedical-Europe >Subject: Re: response to GcMAF in 13 yo severe ASD child Hi Nura, The GcMaf available from Holland is the homeopathic version from BioPure called KMAF by Dr Klinghardt. These are oral drops and not injections. June Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 19, 2012 Report Share Posted February 19, 2012 June, do you know anyone who is using those, any reports good or bad?Natasa Reply-To: "Autism-Biomedical-Europe " <Autism-Biomedical-Europe >Date: Sun, 19 Feb 2012 22:55:18 -0000To: "Autism-Biomedical-Europe " <Autism-Biomedical-Europe >Subject: Re: response to GcMAF in 13 yo severe ASD child Hi Nura, The GcMaf available from Holland is the homeopathic version from BioPure called KMAF by Dr Klinghardt. These are oral drops and not injections. June Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 20, 2012 Report Share Posted February 20, 2012 All that worries me is Dr B has a record of 'major success' usually about every 18 months...................summat different every time of course, groundbreaking, you can usually ONLY get it from him................... Mx - Bradstreet is $375-$400 per hour. If he's having success with Autism, (85% response is quoted on the site) how much of that is because of the OTHER supps he puts with it - has he got some kind of protocol? Therefore if you're going to spend $660 on the treatment, then maybe it would be worth it? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 20, 2012 Report Share Posted February 20, 2012 All that worries me is Dr B has a record of 'major success' usually about every 18 months...................summat different every time of course, groundbreaking, you can usually ONLY get it from him................... Mx - Bradstreet is $375-$400 per hour. If he's having success with Autism, (85% response is quoted on the site) how much of that is because of the OTHER supps he puts with it - has he got some kind of protocol? Therefore if you're going to spend $660 on the treatment, then maybe it would be worth it? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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