Re: Re: Chelation and Speech

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Don't want to hijack your post Jabi, but what do you mean Mandi by having started chelation it happens whether you chelate or not? Am thinking in circs. where you have to stop chelation due to other reasons what happens? By stopping it do you mean completely or is it ok spaced out say every few weeks? I've had to stop due to other health issues - am thinking now, after what you've put, of doing say a really low dose of 5mg every couple of weeks but is that a waste of time on an adult - ie can you dose too low? Janet To: Autism-Biomedical-Europe From: Mum231ASD@...Date: Thu, 8 Mar 2012 16:22:43 -0500Subject: Re: Re: Chelation and Speech

Well thats not an efficient protocol, how many mgs per dose?

The proper way do do it would be vits and minerals EVRY day, never stop, starting dose of 5mg, every 4 hours, day and night for at least 64 but preferably 72 hours, have at least as many days off as on and continue for 2 years.

3 months of chelation is not going to help, especially done in an ineffcient manner.

However, now you have started chelation will happen regardless of whether you give chelators for approximately 2 years, the point of chelation is to make the person comfortable during this detox (starts first time you give chelator). I didn't understand this until last year, and I suspect most people including those doing the Cutler protocol and everything right don't either, I started and stopped on myself, the fallout was the worst time of my life and I would not wish that on anyone let alone a non verbal child

Never trust anybody on anything, research yourself, he knows this protocol but I will remind him in my own special way when we see him next week, shame he never made the Andy Cutler lecture when we brought him over last summer and he does so many good things it really really irritates me that he choses to get this so very wrong, full moon rant over

Mx

Dear mandy,He has suggested three times a day for three days and minerals for three days and continue for 3 months.RegardsJabi>> How much DMSA and how often? > > Mandi x> > > In a message dated 08/03/2012 19:47:42 GMT Standard Time, jas1s@... > writes:> > But speech is the biggest issue, we have done lots of test last year. Dr. > Goyal suggested doing DSMA. We tried for six weeks, yeast was the biggest > issue and due to the communication and another issues, I have stopped after > 6 weeks.>

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Don't want to hijack your post Jabi, but what do you mean Mandi by having started chelation it happens whether you chelate or not? Am thinking in circs. where you have to stop chelation due to other reasons what happens? By stopping it do you mean completely or is it ok spaced out say every few weeks? I've had to stop due to other health issues - am thinking now, after what you've put, of doing say a really low dose of 5mg every couple of weeks but is that a waste of time on an adult - ie can you dose too low? Janet To: Autism-Biomedical-Europe From: Mum231ASD@...Date: Thu, 8 Mar 2012 16:22:43 -0500Subject: Re: Re: Chelation and Speech

Well thats not an efficient protocol, how many mgs per dose?

The proper way do do it would be vits and minerals EVRY day, never stop, starting dose of 5mg, every 4 hours, day and night for at least 64 but preferably 72 hours, have at least as many days off as on and continue for 2 years.

3 months of chelation is not going to help, especially done in an ineffcient manner.

However, now you have started chelation will happen regardless of whether you give chelators for approximately 2 years, the point of chelation is to make the person comfortable during this detox (starts first time you give chelator). I didn't understand this until last year, and I suspect most people including those doing the Cutler protocol and everything right don't either, I started and stopped on myself, the fallout was the worst time of my life and I would not wish that on anyone let alone a non verbal child

Never trust anybody on anything, research yourself, he knows this protocol but I will remind him in my own special way when we see him next week, shame he never made the Andy Cutler lecture when we brought him over last summer and he does so many good things it really really irritates me that he choses to get this so very wrong, full moon rant over

Mx

Dear mandy,He has suggested three times a day for three days and minerals for three days and continue for 3 months.RegardsJabi>> How much DMSA and how often? > > Mandi x> > > In a message dated 08/03/2012 19:47:42 GMT Standard Time, jas1s@... > writes:> > But speech is the biggest issue, we have done lots of test last year. Dr. > Goyal suggested doing DSMA. We tried for six weeks, yeast was the biggest > issue and due to the communication and another issues, I have stopped after > 6 weeks.>

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Don't want to hijack your post Jabi, but what do you mean Mandi by having started chelation it happens whether you chelate or not? Am thinking in circs. where you have to stop chelation due to other reasons what happens? By stopping it do you mean completely or is it ok spaced out say every few weeks? I've had to stop due to other health issues - am thinking now, after what you've put, of doing say a really low dose of 5mg every couple of weeks but is that a waste of time on an adult - ie can you dose too low? Janet To: Autism-Biomedical-Europe From: Mum231ASD@...Date: Thu, 8 Mar 2012 16:22:43 -0500Subject: Re: Re: Chelation and Speech

Well thats not an efficient protocol, how many mgs per dose?

The proper way do do it would be vits and minerals EVRY day, never stop, starting dose of 5mg, every 4 hours, day and night for at least 64 but preferably 72 hours, have at least as many days off as on and continue for 2 years.

3 months of chelation is not going to help, especially done in an ineffcient manner.

However, now you have started chelation will happen regardless of whether you give chelators for approximately 2 years, the point of chelation is to make the person comfortable during this detox (starts first time you give chelator). I didn't understand this until last year, and I suspect most people including those doing the Cutler protocol and everything right don't either, I started and stopped on myself, the fallout was the worst time of my life and I would not wish that on anyone let alone a non verbal child

Never trust anybody on anything, research yourself, he knows this protocol but I will remind him in my own special way when we see him next week, shame he never made the Andy Cutler lecture when we brought him over last summer and he does so many good things it really really irritates me that he choses to get this so very wrong, full moon rant over

Mx

Dear mandy,He has suggested three times a day for three days and minerals for three days and continue for 3 months.RegardsJabi>> How much DMSA and how often? > > Mandi x> > > In a message dated 08/03/2012 19:47:42 GMT Standard Time, jas1s@... > writes:> > But speech is the biggest issue, we have done lots of test last year. Dr. > Goyal suggested doing DSMA. We tried for six weeks, yeast was the biggest > issue and due to the communication and another issues, I have stopped after > 6 weeks.>

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Will have to come back to this later as tome for PO run, but once the first dose is given a cascade approx 2 years in length takes place whether you give the chelators or not.

5mg per dose every few weeks is just fine

Folks who say we chelated for 3 months and it wasn;t doing anything so we stopped and did antivirals and now kid is recovered, the kid was dumping metals for approx 2 years regardless of the fact you stopped giving chelators, giving chelators makes the whole process more comfortable and efficient. The more common one is we stopped chelation and did yasko and metals are pouring out............although I know folks who gave no chelators did yasko and did have metals coming out that's a different action

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Mx

Don't want to hijack your post Jabi, but what do you mean Mandi by having started chelation it happens whether you chelate or not? Am thinking in circs. where you have to stop chelation due to other reasons what happens? By stopping it do you mean completely or is it ok spaced out say every few weeks? I've had to stop due to other health issues - am thinking now, after what you've put, of doing say a really low dose of 5mg every couple of weeks but is that a waste of time on an adult - ie can you dose too low? Janet

To: Autism-Biomedical-Europe From: Mum231ASD@...Date: Thu, 8 Mar 2012 16:22:43 -0500Subject: Re: Re: Chelation and Speech

Well thats not an efficient protocol, how many mgs per dose?

The proper way do do it would be vits and minerals EVRY day, never stop, starting dose of 5mg, every 4 hours, day and night for at least 64 but preferably 72 hours, have at least as many days off as on and continue for 2 years.

3 months of chelation is not going to help, especially done in an ineffcient manner.

However, now you have started chelation will happen regardless of whether you give chelators for approximately 2 years, the point of chelation is to make the person comfortable during this detox (starts first time you give chelator). I didn't understand this until last year, and I suspect most people including those doing the Cutler protocol and everything right don't either, I started and stopped on myself, the fallout was the worst time of my life and I would not wish that on anyone let alone a non verbal child

Never trust anybody on anything, research yourself, he knows this protocol but I will remind him in my own special way when we see him next week, shame he never made the Andy Cutler lecture when we brought him over last summer and he does so many good things it really really irritates me that he choses to get this so very wrong, full moon rant over

Mx

Dear mandy,He has suggested three times a day for three days and minerals for three days and continue for 3 months.RegardsJabi>> How much DMSA and how often? > > Mandi x> > > In a message dated 08/03/2012 19:47:42 GMT Standard Time, jas1s@... > writes:> > But speech is the biggest issue, we have done lots of test last year. Dr. > Goyal suggested doing DSMA. We tried for six weeks, yeast was the biggest > issue and due to the communication and another issues, I have stopped after > 6 weeks.>

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Go to ABE group home and its in the files MJR Hair Test, yeast is a walk in the park to how I felt at that time ad yes I had yeast too, to the stage I could hardly cope with going for a pee because of smell and too out of it to do anything till I was rescued by Lucinda

MX

Did you attach some documents Mandi? I can't open them.I had no idea about the cascade, my son's symptoms fit with your description too, we stopped chelation due to yeast.Kasia> >> > How much DMSA and how often? > > > > Mandi x> > > > > > In a message dated 08/03/2012 19:47:42 GMT Standard Time, jas1s@ > > writes:> > > > But speech is the biggest issue, we have done lots of test last year. > Dr. > > Goyal suggested doing DSMA. We tried for six weeks, yeast was the > biggest > > issue and due to the communication and another issues, I have stopped > after > > 6 weeks.> >>

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Go to ABE group home and its in the files MJR Hair Test, yeast is a walk in the park to how I felt at that time ad yes I had yeast too, to the stage I could hardly cope with going for a pee because of smell and too out of it to do anything till I was rescued by Lucinda

MX

Did you attach some documents Mandi? I can't open them.I had no idea about the cascade, my son's symptoms fit with your description too, we stopped chelation due to yeast.Kasia> >> > How much DMSA and how often? > > > > Mandi x> > > > > > In a message dated 08/03/2012 19:47:42 GMT Standard Time, jas1s@ > > writes:> > > > But speech is the biggest issue, we have done lots of test last year. > Dr. > > Goyal suggested doing DSMA. We tried for six weeks, yeast was the > biggest > > issue and due to the communication and another issues, I have stopped > after > > 6 weeks.> >>

[Guest guest]

Go to ABE group home and its in the files MJR Hair Test, yeast is a walk in the park to how I felt at that time ad yes I had yeast too, to the stage I could hardly cope with going for a pee because of smell and too out of it to do anything till I was rescued by Lucinda

MX

Did you attach some documents Mandi? I can't open them.I had no idea about the cascade, my son's symptoms fit with your description too, we stopped chelation due to yeast.Kasia> >> > How much DMSA and how often? > > > > Mandi x> > > > > > In a message dated 08/03/2012 19:47:42 GMT Standard Time, jas1s@ > > writes:> > > > But speech is the biggest issue, we have done lots of test last year. > Dr. > > Goyal suggested doing DSMA. We tried for six weeks, yeast was the > biggest > > issue and due to the communication and another issues, I have stopped > after > > 6 weeks.> >>