Guest guest Posted January 30, 2012 Report Share Posted January 30, 2012 Thanks for posting Mandi. Without sounding completely ignorant though, what is AW,s concern with mmr then - he seemed to sound in favour of single vax rather than no vax? >>Years ago he used to say 1+1+1 does not always equal 3, 3 live vaccines given by a route not normal (they should be inhaled not injected) and its never been tested, ever. Kids were given single measles vacc's largely without issues before MMR was introduced And how on earth did Deer get hold of those medical records? >>That's what the parents who never gave their permission want to know but can't get anywhere with it Mx Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 31, 2012 Report Share Posted January 31, 2012 3 live virus of measles strain, or 3 live virus due to mumps and rubella being included? DId not know this. Are there live virus in dpt. vaccines also? Janet Re: Check out Wakefield, MD - YouTube ATT J... Thanks for posting Mandi. Without sounding completely ignorant though, what is AW,s concern with mmr then - he seemed to sound in favour of single vax rather than no vax? >>Years ago he used to say 1+1+1 does not always equal 3, 3 live vaccines given by a route not normal (they should be inhaled not injected) and its never been tested, ever. Kids were given single measles vacc's largely without issues before MMR was introduced And how on earth did Deer get hold of those medical records? >>That's what the parents who never gave their permission want to know but can't get anywhere with it Mx Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 31, 2012 Report Share Posted January 31, 2012 , are you referring to mercury? Didn't think that was in mmr also, thought was just in dpt until end of 2004 at least. Janet Re: Check out Wakefield, MD - YouTube ATT J... You do not have it in DPT anymore since 2002 or so to be precise but it used to be at least it was when my son took it ie before 2002 ..... and that is why I have seen the same symptoms with my son high fever, droopy body, convulsion etc and regression afterwards the same that many parents saw with MMR Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 31, 2012 Report Share Posted January 31, 2012 Right I understand, in that case I was wrong just now if there are no live virus then in dpt now then - thought it still contained the live polio virus. So going back to pre-2004 when I took my girls for what I thought was just one live virus (ie measles) I was taking them for several (both had dpt and mmr and boosters etc) and at the same time..They also, like your son, would have had the thermisol just to add insult to injury, one is asd the other is asthmatic. Janet Re: Check out Wakefield, MD - YouTube ATT J... sorry, DTP had since 1962 and up to 2004 the polio live virus in it time that was changed for a "killed " virus and the vaccine became the 5 in 1 that we know today. My son presented the same symptoms that parents report with the MMR , my son never took the MMR, but he took the DTP before 2004 and therefore with the live virus in it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 31, 2012 Report Share Posted January 31, 2012 I've heard of regressions with single measles vaccine, but also with single RUBELLA vaccine etc, I think MMR is a harder insult but not the only one capable of triggering the chain in the vulnerable individual. Natasa > > Sorry Mandi still not got this. The measles virus is live, but the mumps > and rubella aren't, is that correct? So the 3 live viruses where does that > come into picture? Am thinking if route is problematic why not have > problems with single measles vaccine also? Having seen with my own eyes > regression after mmr (alongside dpt etc), as AW puts it loss of previously > acquired skills, then i know there's something very wrong going on but > can't quite work out what role mmr is playing in that. > > Janet > > > > Re: Check out Wakefield, MD - > YouTube ATT J... > > > > > > > > In a message dated 30/01/2012 20:30:41 GMT Standard Time, Proctja@... > writes: > > Thanks for posting Mandi. Without sounding completely ignorant though, > what is AW,s concern with mmr then - he seemed to sound in favour of > single vax rather than no vax? > >>>Years ago he used to say 1+1+1 does not always equal 3, 3 live vaccines >>> given by a route not normal (they should be inhaled not injected) and >>> its never been tested, ever. Kids were given single measles vacc's >>> largely without issues before MMR was introduced > > And how on earth did Deer get hold of those medical records? > >>>That's what the parents who never gave their permission want to know but >>> can't get anywhere with it > > Mx > > > > In a message dated 30/01/2012 20:30:41 GMT Standard Time, Proctja@... > writes: > > Thanks for posting Mandi. Without sounding completely ignorant though, > what is AW,s concern with mmr then - he seemed to sound in favour of > single vax rather than no vax? > >>>Years ago he used to say 1+1+1 does not always equal 3, 3 live vaccines >>> given by a route not normal (they should be inhaled not injected) and >>> its never been tested, ever. Kids were given single measles vacc's >>> largely without issues before MMR was introduced > > And how on earth did Deer get hold of those medical records? > >>>That's what the parents who never gave their permission want to know but >>> can't get anywhere with it > > Mx > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 31, 2012 Report Share Posted January 31, 2012 I've heard of regressions with single measles vaccine, but also with single RUBELLA vaccine etc, I think MMR is a harder insult but not the only one capable of triggering the chain in the vulnerable individual. Natasa > > Sorry Mandi still not got this. The measles virus is live, but the mumps > and rubella aren't, is that correct? So the 3 live viruses where does that > come into picture? Am thinking if route is problematic why not have > problems with single measles vaccine also? Having seen with my own eyes > regression after mmr (alongside dpt etc), as AW puts it loss of previously > acquired skills, then i know there's something very wrong going on but > can't quite work out what role mmr is playing in that. > > Janet > > > > Re: Check out Wakefield, MD - > YouTube ATT J... > > > > > > > > In a message dated 30/01/2012 20:30:41 GMT Standard Time, Proctja@... > writes: > > Thanks for posting Mandi. Without sounding completely ignorant though, > what is AW,s concern with mmr then - he seemed to sound in favour of > single vax rather than no vax? > >>>Years ago he used to say 1+1+1 does not always equal 3, 3 live vaccines >>> given by a route not normal (they should be inhaled not injected) and >>> its never been tested, ever. Kids were given single measles vacc's >>> largely without issues before MMR was introduced > > And how on earth did Deer get hold of those medical records? > >>>That's what the parents who never gave their permission want to know but >>> can't get anywhere with it > > Mx > > > > In a message dated 30/01/2012 20:30:41 GMT Standard Time, Proctja@... > writes: > > Thanks for posting Mandi. Without sounding completely ignorant though, > what is AW,s concern with mmr then - he seemed to sound in favour of > single vax rather than no vax? > >>>Years ago he used to say 1+1+1 does not always equal 3, 3 live vaccines >>> given by a route not normal (they should be inhaled not injected) and >>> its never been tested, ever. Kids were given single measles vacc's >>> largely without issues before MMR was introduced > > And how on earth did Deer get hold of those medical records? > >>>That's what the parents who never gave their permission want to know but >>> can't get anywhere with it > > Mx > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 31, 2012 Report Share Posted January 31, 2012 I've heard of regressions with single measles vaccine, but also with single RUBELLA vaccine etc, I think MMR is a harder insult but not the only one capable of triggering the chain in the vulnerable individual. Natasa > > Sorry Mandi still not got this. The measles virus is live, but the mumps > and rubella aren't, is that correct? So the 3 live viruses where does that > come into picture? Am thinking if route is problematic why not have > problems with single measles vaccine also? Having seen with my own eyes > regression after mmr (alongside dpt etc), as AW puts it loss of previously > acquired skills, then i know there's something very wrong going on but > can't quite work out what role mmr is playing in that. > > Janet > > > > Re: Check out Wakefield, MD - > YouTube ATT J... > > > > > > > > In a message dated 30/01/2012 20:30:41 GMT Standard Time, Proctja@... > writes: > > Thanks for posting Mandi. Without sounding completely ignorant though, > what is AW,s concern with mmr then - he seemed to sound in favour of > single vax rather than no vax? > >>>Years ago he used to say 1+1+1 does not always equal 3, 3 live vaccines >>> given by a route not normal (they should be inhaled not injected) and >>> its never been tested, ever. Kids were given single measles vacc's >>> largely without issues before MMR was introduced > > And how on earth did Deer get hold of those medical records? > >>>That's what the parents who never gave their permission want to know but >>> can't get anywhere with it > > Mx > > > > In a message dated 30/01/2012 20:30:41 GMT Standard Time, Proctja@... > writes: > > Thanks for posting Mandi. Without sounding completely ignorant though, > what is AW,s concern with mmr then - he seemed to sound in favour of > single vax rather than no vax? > >>>Years ago he used to say 1+1+1 does not always equal 3, 3 live vaccines >>> given by a route not normal (they should be inhaled not injected) and >>> its never been tested, ever. Kids were given single measles vacc's >>> largely without issues before MMR was introduced > > And how on earth did Deer get hold of those medical records? > >>>That's what the parents who never gave their permission want to know but >>> can't get anywhere with it > > Mx > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 31, 2012 Report Share Posted January 31, 2012 I had antibiotics all through the pregnancy, a hypo thyroid undiagnosed at the time, and drank gaviscon by the pint , and ate tuna salad everyday of my pregnancy thank God I have not had dental work since I was 14, time that had 4 amalgams in but I think I compensate that by fish preference. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 31, 2012 Report Share Posted January 31, 2012 I had antibiotics all through the pregnancy, a hypo thyroid undiagnosed at the time, and drank gaviscon by the pint , and ate tuna salad everyday of my pregnancy thank God I have not had dental work since I was 14, time that had 4 amalgams in but I think I compensate that by fish preference. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 31, 2012 Report Share Posted January 31, 2012 I had antibiotics all through the pregnancy, a hypo thyroid undiagnosed at the time, and drank gaviscon by the pint , and ate tuna salad everyday of my pregnancy thank God I have not had dental work since I was 14, time that had 4 amalgams in but I think I compensate that by fish preference. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 31, 2012 Report Share Posted January 31, 2012 OOps yeah forgot I was eating tuna too, so healthy................NOT! Mx I had antibiotics all through the pregnancy, a hypo thyroid undiagnosed at the time, and drank gaviscon by the pint , and ate tuna salad everyday of my pregnancy thank God I have not had dental work since I was 14, time that had 4 amalgams in but I think I compensate that by fish preference. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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