Guest guest Posted July 19, 2005 Report Share Posted July 19, 2005 Autism is almost identical to mercury poisoning. I can also cite over 130 medical studies by reputable scientific/medical professionals that show the link. Debi Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 19, 2005 Report Share Posted July 19, 2005 Autism is almost identical to mercury poisoning. I can also cite over 130 medical studies by reputable scientific/medical professionals that show the link. Debi Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 19, 2005 Report Share Posted July 19, 2005 Amnesty, I wonder if in those cases if the mother had mercury exposure in some way, or another metal like arsenic. I only think this because the science is showing these kids in about 75% of the cases always improve after chelation and always show heavy metal being dumped in unusually high levels. Then it leaves you wondering why 25% of the cases don't, which might be a different method of chelation is needed or they don't have mercury/metal poisoning. But 75% is a pretty high number. Debi > I know there is a connection between vaccines and autism in many > kids, but I also know it is not the only cause. I have known kids who > were never vaccinated and are still autistic. That is why there are > still people who say " it can't be that, it wasn't for this child! " > There are kids who had symptoms from birth too. I worked with a > quadruplet who's mom said she knew from day one, she had 3 typical > babies to compare to, she said she couldn't have missed it, just had > to convince the drs. The problem is that there is not ONE cause of > autism, so there will never be ONE cure. It is always going to be > different for every single child. > Amnesty Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 19, 2005 Report Share Posted July 19, 2005 Amnesty, I wonder if in those cases if the mother had mercury exposure in some way, or another metal like arsenic. I only think this because the science is showing these kids in about 75% of the cases always improve after chelation and always show heavy metal being dumped in unusually high levels. Then it leaves you wondering why 25% of the cases don't, which might be a different method of chelation is needed or they don't have mercury/metal poisoning. But 75% is a pretty high number. Debi > I know there is a connection between vaccines and autism in many > kids, but I also know it is not the only cause. I have known kids who > were never vaccinated and are still autistic. That is why there are > still people who say " it can't be that, it wasn't for this child! " > There are kids who had symptoms from birth too. I worked with a > quadruplet who's mom said she knew from day one, she had 3 typical > babies to compare to, she said she couldn't have missed it, just had > to convince the drs. The problem is that there is not ONE cause of > autism, so there will never be ONE cure. It is always going to be > different for every single child. > Amnesty Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 19, 2005 Report Share Posted July 19, 2005 Amnesty, I wonder if in those cases if the mother had mercury exposure in some way, or another metal like arsenic. I only think this because the science is showing these kids in about 75% of the cases always improve after chelation and always show heavy metal being dumped in unusually high levels. Then it leaves you wondering why 25% of the cases don't, which might be a different method of chelation is needed or they don't have mercury/metal poisoning. But 75% is a pretty high number. Debi > I know there is a connection between vaccines and autism in many > kids, but I also know it is not the only cause. I have known kids who > were never vaccinated and are still autistic. That is why there are > still people who say " it can't be that, it wasn't for this child! " > There are kids who had symptoms from birth too. I worked with a > quadruplet who's mom said she knew from day one, she had 3 typical > babies to compare to, she said she couldn't have missed it, just had > to convince the drs. The problem is that there is not ONE cause of > autism, so there will never be ONE cure. It is always going to be > different for every single child. > Amnesty Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 19, 2005 Report Share Posted July 19, 2005 As Debi said, vaccines are just the most common delivery method for mercury, and there are countless ways to get mercury from the environment, food, etc. And mercury is not the only problem. Unvaccinated children can be autistic and still have mercury and other toxic metals in their body. The root of the problem isn't the exposure, it's the fact that these children cannot detoxify themselves. They lack the master antioxidant glutathione. My daughter was autistic from birth, but I have since traced it to the fact that I was given a flu shot containing 25 micrograms of mercury (the most allowable) when i was 6 months pregnant. At that point everything was going perfectly in my pregnancy. It could not have been better. Two days after that shot, my baby stopped growing and went into distress. She never grew any more and I had am emergency induction 6 weeks early. There is no doubt in my mind whatsoever that the mercury in that shot was responsible. In addition to mercury, has tested for arsenic, lead, cadmium and other toxic metals, which we are now carefully removing. There may be several factors contributing, but the massive increase in autism in recent years is due to mercury and other toxicity. it is the only variable. > I know there is a connection between vaccines and autism in many > kids, but I also know it is not the only cause. I have known kids who > were never vaccinated and are still autistic. That is why there are > still people who say " it can't be that, it wasn't for this child! " > There are kids who had symptoms from birth too. I worked with a > quadruplet who's mom said she knew from day one, she had 3 typical > babies to compare to, she said she couldn't have missed it, just had > to convince the drs. The problem is that there is not ONE cause of > autism, so there will never be ONE cure. It is always going to be > different for every single child. > Amnesty > > > > >> I find it amazing that some people still dont believe the >> > connection between vaccines and autism. My daughters neuroligist > wrote a grant and has a large facility where she treats and diagnosis > autism, and she says I should continue to immunize Ella, but she has > interests in the medical feild and doesnt want to be frowned upon. > She also doesnt have children! > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 19, 2005 Report Share Posted July 19, 2005 As Debi said, vaccines are just the most common delivery method for mercury, and there are countless ways to get mercury from the environment, food, etc. And mercury is not the only problem. Unvaccinated children can be autistic and still have mercury and other toxic metals in their body. The root of the problem isn't the exposure, it's the fact that these children cannot detoxify themselves. They lack the master antioxidant glutathione. My daughter was autistic from birth, but I have since traced it to the fact that I was given a flu shot containing 25 micrograms of mercury (the most allowable) when i was 6 months pregnant. At that point everything was going perfectly in my pregnancy. It could not have been better. Two days after that shot, my baby stopped growing and went into distress. She never grew any more and I had am emergency induction 6 weeks early. There is no doubt in my mind whatsoever that the mercury in that shot was responsible. In addition to mercury, has tested for arsenic, lead, cadmium and other toxic metals, which we are now carefully removing. There may be several factors contributing, but the massive increase in autism in recent years is due to mercury and other toxicity. it is the only variable. > I know there is a connection between vaccines and autism in many > kids, but I also know it is not the only cause. I have known kids who > were never vaccinated and are still autistic. That is why there are > still people who say " it can't be that, it wasn't for this child! " > There are kids who had symptoms from birth too. I worked with a > quadruplet who's mom said she knew from day one, she had 3 typical > babies to compare to, she said she couldn't have missed it, just had > to convince the drs. The problem is that there is not ONE cause of > autism, so there will never be ONE cure. It is always going to be > different for every single child. > Amnesty > > > > >> I find it amazing that some people still dont believe the >> > connection between vaccines and autism. My daughters neuroligist > wrote a grant and has a large facility where she treats and diagnosis > autism, and she says I should continue to immunize Ella, but she has > interests in the medical feild and doesnt want to be frowned upon. > She also doesnt have children! > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 19, 2005 Report Share Posted July 19, 2005 How do I get Ella tested for metals and how do you get chelation? Aimee Let me guess...its not covered by insurances and my Dr. wont do it....you gotta be rich to be healthy!!!!! Debi wrote: Amnesty, I wonder if in those cases if the mother had mercury exposure in some way, or another metal like arsenic. I only think this because the science is showing these kids in about 75% of the cases always improve after chelation and always show heavy metal being dumped in unusually high levels. Then it leaves you wondering why 25% of the cases don't, which might be a different method of chelation is needed or they don't have mercury/metal poisoning. But 75% is a pretty high number. Debi > I know there is a connection between vaccines and autism in many > kids, but I also know it is not the only cause. I have known kids who > were never vaccinated and are still autistic. That is why there are > still people who say " it can't be that, it wasn't for this child! " > There are kids who had symptoms from birth too. I worked with a > quadruplet who's mom said she knew from day one, she had 3 typical > babies to compare to, she said she couldn't have missed it, just had > to convince the drs. The problem is that there is not ONE cause of > autism, so there will never be ONE cure. It is always going to be > different for every single child. > Amnesty Autism_in_Girls-subscribe ------------------------ Autism_in_Girls-unsubscribe Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 19, 2005 Report Share Posted July 19, 2005 How do I get Ella tested for metals and how do you get chelation? Aimee Let me guess...its not covered by insurances and my Dr. wont do it....you gotta be rich to be healthy!!!!! Debi wrote: Amnesty, I wonder if in those cases if the mother had mercury exposure in some way, or another metal like arsenic. I only think this because the science is showing these kids in about 75% of the cases always improve after chelation and always show heavy metal being dumped in unusually high levels. Then it leaves you wondering why 25% of the cases don't, which might be a different method of chelation is needed or they don't have mercury/metal poisoning. But 75% is a pretty high number. Debi > I know there is a connection between vaccines and autism in many > kids, but I also know it is not the only cause. I have known kids who > were never vaccinated and are still autistic. That is why there are > still people who say " it can't be that, it wasn't for this child! " > There are kids who had symptoms from birth too. I worked with a > quadruplet who's mom said she knew from day one, she had 3 typical > babies to compare to, she said she couldn't have missed it, just had > to convince the drs. The problem is that there is not ONE cause of > autism, so there will never be ONE cure. It is always going to be > different for every single child. > Amnesty Autism_in_Girls-subscribe ------------------------ Autism_in_Girls-unsubscribe Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 19, 2005 Report Share Posted July 19, 2005 How do I get Ella tested for metals and how do you get chelation? Aimee Let me guess...its not covered by insurances and my Dr. wont do it....you gotta be rich to be healthy!!!!! Debi wrote: Amnesty, I wonder if in those cases if the mother had mercury exposure in some way, or another metal like arsenic. I only think this because the science is showing these kids in about 75% of the cases always improve after chelation and always show heavy metal being dumped in unusually high levels. Then it leaves you wondering why 25% of the cases don't, which might be a different method of chelation is needed or they don't have mercury/metal poisoning. But 75% is a pretty high number. Debi > I know there is a connection between vaccines and autism in many > kids, but I also know it is not the only cause. I have known kids who > were never vaccinated and are still autistic. That is why there are > still people who say " it can't be that, it wasn't for this child! " > There are kids who had symptoms from birth too. I worked with a > quadruplet who's mom said she knew from day one, she had 3 typical > babies to compare to, she said she couldn't have missed it, just had > to convince the drs. The problem is that there is not ONE cause of > autism, so there will never be ONE cure. It is always going to be > different for every single child. > Amnesty Autism_in_Girls-subscribe ------------------------ Autism_in_Girls-unsubscribe Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 19, 2005 Report Share Posted July 19, 2005 Pretty much <g>. The best way is to find a DAN! doc (www.defeatautismnow.com) and he/she will order a test. The thing is until you do a chelation challenge test it can be difficult to know for sure, because the metals are sitting in the brain cells, not floating around the blood. Typically a chelating agent is given for a few days, then urine & fecal samples are taken to see if there are any amounts, if so, there's a good chance chelation will help. Also, after the initial challenge hair tests can be done periodically to show what's coming out. Each hair test is around $100, Doctor's Data hair tests are considered the best because of result interp. DAN! docs are really good at being able to help tweak biological treatments, too, but it can get costly. The problem with hair tests is that it requires a physician's order, we can't order them ourselves. HTH, Debi Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 20, 2005 Report Share Posted July 20, 2005 75%? Really? I've only come across the other 25% then, I haven't personally met a kid who improved after chelation. I'm sure it helps many, but I haven't seen it. I also know plenty of kids who have been tested for mercury and other metals and hed them come back totally normal. Also, if it's an in utero exposure, why one quad and not the other 3? Same for the dozens of twins I have known where one was ASD and the other is not. Amnesty > > I know there is a connection between vaccines and autism in many > > kids, but I also know it is not the only cause. I have known kids who > > were never vaccinated and are still autistic. That is why there are > > still people who say " it can't be that, it wasn't for this child! " > > There are kids who had symptoms from birth too. I worked with a > > quadruplet who's mom said she knew from day one, she had 3 typical > > babies to compare to, she said she couldn't have missed it, just had > > to convince the drs. The problem is that there is not ONE cause of > > autism, so there will never be ONE cure. It is always going to be > > different for every single child. > > Amnesty Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 20, 2005 Report Share Posted July 20, 2005 75%? Really? I've only come across the other 25% then, I haven't personally met a kid who improved after chelation. I'm sure it helps many, but I haven't seen it. I also know plenty of kids who have been tested for mercury and other metals and hed them come back totally normal. Also, if it's an in utero exposure, why one quad and not the other 3? Same for the dozens of twins I have known where one was ASD and the other is not. Amnesty > > I know there is a connection between vaccines and autism in many > > kids, but I also know it is not the only cause. I have known kids who > > were never vaccinated and are still autistic. That is why there are > > still people who say " it can't be that, it wasn't for this child! " > > There are kids who had symptoms from birth too. I worked with a > > quadruplet who's mom said she knew from day one, she had 3 typical > > babies to compare to, she said she couldn't have missed it, just had > > to convince the drs. The problem is that there is not ONE cause of > > autism, so there will never be ONE cure. It is always going to be > > different for every single child. > > Amnesty Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 20, 2005 Report Share Posted July 20, 2005 75%? Really? I've only come across the other 25% then, I haven't personally met a kid who improved after chelation. I'm sure it helps many, but I haven't seen it. I also know plenty of kids who have been tested for mercury and other metals and hed them come back totally normal. Also, if it's an in utero exposure, why one quad and not the other 3? Same for the dozens of twins I have known where one was ASD and the other is not. Amnesty > > I know there is a connection between vaccines and autism in many > > kids, but I also know it is not the only cause. I have known kids who > > were never vaccinated and are still autistic. That is why there are > > still people who say " it can't be that, it wasn't for this child! " > > There are kids who had symptoms from birth too. I worked with a > > quadruplet who's mom said she knew from day one, she had 3 typical > > babies to compare to, she said she couldn't have missed it, just had > > to convince the drs. The problem is that there is not ONE cause of > > autism, so there will never be ONE cure. It is always going to be > > different for every single child. > > Amnesty Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 20, 2005 Report Share Posted July 20, 2005 You can get blood or hair (preferably both) tested, ask your ped. You may need a DAN dr. I sort of doubt they will do chelation for a child Ella's age, unless there were extremely high levels. It's pretty invasive, and can have serious side effects. It probably depends on the dr though. Amnesty > > I know there is a connection between vaccines and autism in many > > kids, but I also know it is not the only cause. I have known kids who > > were never vaccinated and are still autistic. That is why there are > > still people who say " it can't be that, it wasn't for this child! " > > There are kids who had symptoms from birth too. I worked with a > > quadruplet who's mom said she knew from day one, she had 3 typical > > babies to compare to, she said she couldn't have missed it, just had > > to convince the drs. The problem is that there is not ONE cause of > > autism, so there will never be ONE cure. It is always going to be > > different for every single child. > > Amnesty > > > > > > Autism_in_Girls-subscribe > ------------------------ > Autism_in_Girls-unsubscribe > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 20, 2005 Report Share Posted July 20, 2005 You can get blood or hair (preferably both) tested, ask your ped. You may need a DAN dr. I sort of doubt they will do chelation for a child Ella's age, unless there were extremely high levels. It's pretty invasive, and can have serious side effects. It probably depends on the dr though. Amnesty > > I know there is a connection between vaccines and autism in many > > kids, but I also know it is not the only cause. I have known kids who > > were never vaccinated and are still autistic. That is why there are > > still people who say " it can't be that, it wasn't for this child! " > > There are kids who had symptoms from birth too. I worked with a > > quadruplet who's mom said she knew from day one, she had 3 typical > > babies to compare to, she said she couldn't have missed it, just had > > to convince the drs. The problem is that there is not ONE cause of > > autism, so there will never be ONE cure. It is always going to be > > different for every single child. > > Amnesty > > > > > > Autism_in_Girls-subscribe > ------------------------ > Autism_in_Girls-unsubscribe > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 20, 2005 Report Share Posted July 20, 2005 You can get blood or hair (preferably both) tested, ask your ped. You may need a DAN dr. I sort of doubt they will do chelation for a child Ella's age, unless there were extremely high levels. It's pretty invasive, and can have serious side effects. It probably depends on the dr though. Amnesty > > I know there is a connection between vaccines and autism in many > > kids, but I also know it is not the only cause. I have known kids who > > were never vaccinated and are still autistic. That is why there are > > still people who say " it can't be that, it wasn't for this child! " > > There are kids who had symptoms from birth too. I worked with a > > quadruplet who's mom said she knew from day one, she had 3 typical > > babies to compare to, she said she couldn't have missed it, just had > > to convince the drs. The problem is that there is not ONE cause of > > autism, so there will never be ONE cure. It is always going to be > > different for every single child. > > Amnesty > > > > > > Autism_in_Girls-subscribe > ------------------------ > Autism_in_Girls-unsubscribe > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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