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Oprah always says that forgiveness is the gift you give yourself. The

person you forgive does not need to be aware of the forgiveness for

it to work. Holding anger doesn't hurt the other person. It hurts you

and your body. Living well is the best revenge.

Take care,

Rosemary

> how can you forgive someone who doesn't show remorse? again, this

isn't

> about repentence or remorse of the causer of the problem, (like my

new

> word?) It's about our letting go of the anger and moving on. We hurt

> ourselves, not them by holding on the anger. they couldn't care

less if

> we are still angry, 5 days later, 5 years later, 50 years later.

Anger

> hurts us, it keeps us from being truely happy.

>

> ** , Stinky's caretaker**

> Froehliche Weihnachten,

> Merry Christmas

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Oprah always says that forgiveness is the gift you give yourself. The

person you forgive does not need to be aware of the forgiveness for

it to work. Holding anger doesn't hurt the other person. It hurts you

and your body. Living well is the best revenge.

Take care,

Rosemary

> how can you forgive someone who doesn't show remorse? again, this

isn't

> about repentence or remorse of the causer of the problem, (like my

new

> word?) It's about our letting go of the anger and moving on. We hurt

> ourselves, not them by holding on the anger. they couldn't care

less if

> we are still angry, 5 days later, 5 years later, 50 years later.

Anger

> hurts us, it keeps us from being truely happy.

>

> ** , Stinky's caretaker**

> Froehliche Weihnachten,

> Merry Christmas

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Hi Debbie-

It's not Megatron's job to tell you who you've forgiven and who you

haven't. That's just her trying to embed another tentacle into you,

to draw you back in.

It's like Corleone in the Godfather: You think you're out,

then they keep pulling you back in again!

Take care,

Rosemary

> Andy,

>

> I totally agree with you about letting the anger go. I am working

on that

> part. However, Megatron believes and proclaims quite loudly that

since I

> won't let her visit me, won't speak on the phone, and won't email

that I have

> not forgiven her. Is there a way to make a bp understand the

difference

> between forgiveness and boundaries. In my mind I am working on the

> forgiveness and the anger but that doesn't mean I am ready to sign

up for

> another " nadapalooza " ...to copy your phrasing! My father also

tends to

> believe contact would prove my forgiveness, love, etc. I am SO not

into

> PROVING anything to the two of them anymore but they don't get it!!!

>

> Frustrated,

>

> Debbie

>

>

>

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Hi Debbie-

It's not Megatron's job to tell you who you've forgiven and who you

haven't. That's just her trying to embed another tentacle into you,

to draw you back in.

It's like Corleone in the Godfather: You think you're out,

then they keep pulling you back in again!

Take care,

Rosemary

> Andy,

>

> I totally agree with you about letting the anger go. I am working

on that

> part. However, Megatron believes and proclaims quite loudly that

since I

> won't let her visit me, won't speak on the phone, and won't email

that I have

> not forgiven her. Is there a way to make a bp understand the

difference

> between forgiveness and boundaries. In my mind I am working on the

> forgiveness and the anger but that doesn't mean I am ready to sign

up for

> another " nadapalooza " ...to copy your phrasing! My father also

tends to

> believe contact would prove my forgiveness, love, etc. I am SO not

into

> PROVING anything to the two of them anymore but they don't get it!!!

>

> Frustrated,

>

> Debbie

>

>

>

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Hi Debbie-

It's not Megatron's job to tell you who you've forgiven and who you

haven't. That's just her trying to embed another tentacle into you,

to draw you back in.

It's like Corleone in the Godfather: You think you're out,

then they keep pulling you back in again!

Take care,

Rosemary

> Andy,

>

> I totally agree with you about letting the anger go. I am working

on that

> part. However, Megatron believes and proclaims quite loudly that

since I

> won't let her visit me, won't speak on the phone, and won't email

that I have

> not forgiven her. Is there a way to make a bp understand the

difference

> between forgiveness and boundaries. In my mind I am working on the

> forgiveness and the anger but that doesn't mean I am ready to sign

up for

> another " nadapalooza " ...to copy your phrasing! My father also

tends to

> believe contact would prove my forgiveness, love, etc. I am SO not

into

> PROVING anything to the two of them anymore but they don't get it!!!

>

> Frustrated,

>

> Debbie

>

>

>

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Debbie-

Sarcasm and humor are great defense mechanisms. You just need to be

careful because sometimes it's hard to let the armor down. ;)

Later Skater,

Rosemary

> Thanks Rosemary! Speaking of the Corleones...oh, to have Mama

> Corleone....loving, supportive, always turning a blind eye to every

last

> fault (even the murdeous ones) and what a fabulous cook!!!!!!!!!!!

>

> Debbie

>

> PS

> Sarcasm and inappropriate humor are two of the few indulgences I

allow

> myself...mostly because they annoy Megatron because she never

quite " got " my

> humor and sarcasm is completely beyond her! Naughty, naughty ;-)

>

>

>

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Debbie-

Sarcasm and humor are great defense mechanisms. You just need to be

careful because sometimes it's hard to let the armor down. ;)

Later Skater,

Rosemary

> Thanks Rosemary! Speaking of the Corleones...oh, to have Mama

> Corleone....loving, supportive, always turning a blind eye to every

last

> fault (even the murdeous ones) and what a fabulous cook!!!!!!!!!!!

>

> Debbie

>

> PS

> Sarcasm and inappropriate humor are two of the few indulgences I

allow

> myself...mostly because they annoy Megatron because she never

quite " got " my

> humor and sarcasm is completely beyond her! Naughty, naughty ;-)

>

>

>

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Debbie-

Sarcasm and humor are great defense mechanisms. You just need to be

careful because sometimes it's hard to let the armor down. ;)

Later Skater,

Rosemary

> Thanks Rosemary! Speaking of the Corleones...oh, to have Mama

> Corleone....loving, supportive, always turning a blind eye to every

last

> fault (even the murdeous ones) and what a fabulous cook!!!!!!!!!!!

>

> Debbie

>

> PS

> Sarcasm and inappropriate humor are two of the few indulgences I

allow

> myself...mostly because they annoy Megatron because she never

quite " got " my

> humor and sarcasm is completely beyond her! Naughty, naughty ;-)

>

>

>

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