[WARNING: MESSAGE ENCRYPTED]Re: Re: aciclovir

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Wow thank you Joanne!

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > Hi za,

> > > > Hope Natasa is watching as well.

> > > >

> > > > The first time we did Valtrex, we saw side effects in the first

> week on day

> > 5. Side effects for us were: head-pressing against us and hard

> surfaces (like

> > head banging, to relieve inflammation) and stupidly massive yeast.

> Lots of

> > stimming, lining up, to cope with extra stress on the body. This

> time, with

> > acyclovir, we haven't had any. All we've seen is great gains. We

> have learned

> > to a certain extent from the first time.

> > > >

> > > > You might not get any side effects at all but most of us do.

> > > >

> > > > In a nutshell, to avoid the side-effects, i.e. to keep the extra

> stress on

> > the body in control which might result from anti-viral use, you need

> to:

> > > >

> > > > Increase your yeast protocol, after observation of first week.

> > > > We upped probiotics at night. We use CP1 and Candex as it doesn't

> contain

> > Streptococcus Thermophilis which for some reason has negative impact

> on PANDAS

> > kids. We haven't used as much Candex as we used to, but are working

> it back in

> > again (remember we totally came off biomed for a while because we

> hadn't had a

> > break for six years).

> > > >

> > > > You need to manage inflammation - consider Ibuprofen. Not good

> for kids

> > with gut issues, granted, but you are looking at bigger picture and

> not long

> > term use. We did Valtrex a few years ago which is six times more

> bioavailable

> > than Acyclovir. We had massive stimming (we needed prescription yeast

> killers

> > and at that point had to fight for them because this was all new) and

> pressing

> > head against surfaces to relieve pain. This time on Acyclovir, we did

> a week of

> > regular ibuprofen at the beginning of the protocol. Then occasional

> doses if

> > needed on the odd rough day. This worked for us. We didn't get the

> head

> > pressing and all the stims. If we had a really bad moment we'd put it

> in again,

> > but not regularly. Also you could up the fish oils. That helps as

> well. You

> > could also up fish oil protocol, that has helped here.

> > > >

> > > > Manage the strep. Another thing is we have got J on Zithro at the

> same time

> > as the anti-viral. This won't make it necessarily what DG will

> prescribe for

> > Eddie because we had massive strep titres. It depends. But Zithro

> has an

> > overall anti-inflammatory effect on the body. So this begs question,

> did J avoid

> > side-effects this time because of Zithro or Ibuprofen, because he was

> on both?

> > I think Ibuprofen helps because when he was on Zithro alone for strep,

> he still

> > had inflammation so we needed something extra, particularly at the

> start. It is

> > not something I want long term, but it is helping right now, along

> with the rest

> > of the world I'm looking for more healthy ways.

> > > >

> > > > Getting the strep/tics under control before you start antivirals

> seems to

> > have helped this time. We didn't know strep was rampant the first

> time we did

> > Valtrex.

> > > >

> > > > To me, if you have viral and strep at same time, you are going to

> battle

> > inflammation and if you can do that you are on a winner. Its so much

> better for

> > us this time. Whatever you do, don't suddenly stop the anti-virals

> but I guess

> > has told you that.

> > > >

> > > > Liver and Kidney Support. Essential to clear systemic

> prescription drugs

> > through the system (and viruses). I use Liv-detox but am considering

> moving to

> > other supps.

> > > >

> > > > Methylation. You need to make sure the MB12/folinic is in place,

> but if the

> > negative effects are too much at the start, I would do that week 2/3

> if not

> > established already or you won't know what's causing what.

> > > >

> > > > Managing coming off anti-virals eventually - up your strep

> protocol. When

> > viruses move out we have found in comes Strep.

> > > >

> > > > Isobel Ramsey gave me a tip about massaging encense oil (in a

> carrier)

> > into the feet at night, this and some music helps calm as well,

> so think

> > about what calms Eddie as well as supps to avoid the storm.

> > > >

> > > > If things get really awful, pick up the phone to 's sec

> , and he

> > will get back to you usually by the end of the day if its an

> emergency.

> > > >

> > > > Have you got some Melatonin to help with the sleep, is Eddie all

> right on

> > that?

> > > >

> > > > Please ask if I've been unclear and you want me to answer anything

> in more

> > details.

> > > >

> > > > Much love to you and Eddie

> > > > Things have got so much better in all areas here having braved

> this one out

> > for a while.

> > > >

> > > > Eil x

> > > >

> > >

> >

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