Guest guest Posted December 4, 2011 Report Share Posted December 4, 2011 Hi everyone Just wanted to check how strict are you with the GFCF diet. Does the occasional biscuit or chocolate make a difference? I find it impossible to totally avoid gluten ( bread and biscuit, crossaints) and sugar . We can get away using soy for milk but icecreams can be a real problem especially when we are out and about. I am sure that a totally GFCF diet is best how it is going to be a reality is doubtful. If the case is that any gluten totally undoes any good then may be there is no point in attempting it. thanks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 4, 2011 Report Share Posted December 4, 2011 Hi everyone Just wanted to check how strict are you with the GFCF diet. Does the occasional biscuit or chocolate make a difference?Yes it does because this is a food addiction. I find it impossible to totally avoid gluten (bread and biscuit, crossaints) and sugar. We can get away using soy for milk but icecreams can be a real problem especially when we are out and about. Many ice lollies and sorbets are safe. i buy lemon sorbet from tescos for my ice cream fix. Also soy cheesecake which you freeze from holland and barrett. I am sure that a totally GFCF diet is best how it is going to be a reality is doubtful. If the case is that any gluten totally undoes any good then may be there is no point in attempting it.It doesn't totally undo progress but you can use tonic water to help lessen the effects of accidental exposure. It has really helped me with constipation, sweating less, less thirst, lower appetite and now im semi independent. -- is Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 4, 2011 Report Share Posted December 4, 2011 Hi everyone Just wanted to check how strict are you with the GFCF diet. Does the occasional biscuit or chocolate make a difference?Yes it does because this is a food addiction. I find it impossible to totally avoid gluten (bread and biscuit, crossaints) and sugar. We can get away using soy for milk but icecreams can be a real problem especially when we are out and about. Many ice lollies and sorbets are safe. i buy lemon sorbet from tescos for my ice cream fix. Also soy cheesecake which you freeze from holland and barrett. I am sure that a totally GFCF diet is best how it is going to be a reality is doubtful. If the case is that any gluten totally undoes any good then may be there is no point in attempting it.It doesn't totally undo progress but you can use tonic water to help lessen the effects of accidental exposure. It has really helped me with constipation, sweating less, less thirst, lower appetite and now im semi independent. -- is Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 4, 2011 Report Share Posted December 4, 2011 Hi everyone Just wanted to check how strict are you with the GFCF diet. Does the occasional biscuit or chocolate make a difference?Yes it does because this is a food addiction. I find it impossible to totally avoid gluten (bread and biscuit, crossaints) and sugar. We can get away using soy for milk but icecreams can be a real problem especially when we are out and about. Many ice lollies and sorbets are safe. i buy lemon sorbet from tescos for my ice cream fix. Also soy cheesecake which you freeze from holland and barrett. I am sure that a totally GFCF diet is best how it is going to be a reality is doubtful. If the case is that any gluten totally undoes any good then may be there is no point in attempting it.It doesn't totally undo progress but you can use tonic water to help lessen the effects of accidental exposure. It has really helped me with constipation, sweating less, less thirst, lower appetite and now im semi independent. -- is Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 4, 2011 Report Share Posted December 4, 2011 I think it's the case that you won't know whether your child needs a gluten-free diet unless you can do it completely strictly for at least 6 months. The best way, IMHO, to do it is not to buy substitutes eg gluten free chocolate biscuits because they contain tons of sugar which will encourage the growth of the wrong gut bacteria and other ingredients that may also be problematic eg soya and maize. However, I suppose if you can't manage without, then an option might be to carry a packet of such biscuits with you for use in " emergency " when everyone else is tucking in to sweet things. The younger your child is the easier it will be to get him to accept that he can't have certain things and he may just learn to go woithout eg have fruit instead. As soya and maize can also be problematic then, if you are using them, you may not get a clear result from just cutting out gluten. Some on this list use digestive enzymes to help deal with occasional dietary infractions - Mandi Mart sells these. They need to be given immediately the infraction has happened, I think, although I haven't used them for this myself. It is said that cows' milk only needs to be stopped for a few days to begin to see an improvement if it is indeed a problem - but I myself haven't noticed this either in me or my son, although I know some people report a very obvious change. We are all different and I think it can be very difficult sometimes to see whether something's helping, or not.Some can tolerate goat's or sheep's milk products, but not cow. The GFCF diet is often the first tried, but it risks becoming high in other refined carbs and in sugar. A variant is also to exclude sugar. soya and maize (corn). There are other diets people try - quite a variety. Margaret > > Hi everyone > Just wanted to check how strict are you with the GFCF diet. > Does the occasional biscuit or chocolate make a difference? > I find it impossible to totally avoid gluten ( bread and biscuit, crossaints) and sugar . We can get away using soy for milk but icecreams can be a real problem especially when we are out and about. > > I am sure that a totally GFCF diet is best how it is going to be a reality is doubtful. If the case is that any gluten totally undoes any good then may be there is no point in attempting it. > > thanks > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 4, 2011 Report Share Posted December 4, 2011 I think it's the case that you won't know whether your child needs a gluten-free diet unless you can do it completely strictly for at least 6 months. The best way, IMHO, to do it is not to buy substitutes eg gluten free chocolate biscuits because they contain tons of sugar which will encourage the growth of the wrong gut bacteria and other ingredients that may also be problematic eg soya and maize. However, I suppose if you can't manage without, then an option might be to carry a packet of such biscuits with you for use in " emergency " when everyone else is tucking in to sweet things. The younger your child is the easier it will be to get him to accept that he can't have certain things and he may just learn to go woithout eg have fruit instead. As soya and maize can also be problematic then, if you are using them, you may not get a clear result from just cutting out gluten. Some on this list use digestive enzymes to help deal with occasional dietary infractions - Mandi Mart sells these. They need to be given immediately the infraction has happened, I think, although I haven't used them for this myself. It is said that cows' milk only needs to be stopped for a few days to begin to see an improvement if it is indeed a problem - but I myself haven't noticed this either in me or my son, although I know some people report a very obvious change. We are all different and I think it can be very difficult sometimes to see whether something's helping, or not.Some can tolerate goat's or sheep's milk products, but not cow. The GFCF diet is often the first tried, but it risks becoming high in other refined carbs and in sugar. A variant is also to exclude sugar. soya and maize (corn). There are other diets people try - quite a variety. Margaret > > Hi everyone > Just wanted to check how strict are you with the GFCF diet. > Does the occasional biscuit or chocolate make a difference? > I find it impossible to totally avoid gluten ( bread and biscuit, crossaints) and sugar . We can get away using soy for milk but icecreams can be a real problem especially when we are out and about. > > I am sure that a totally GFCF diet is best how it is going to be a reality is doubtful. If the case is that any gluten totally undoes any good then may be there is no point in attempting it. > > thanks > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 4, 2011 Report Share Posted December 4, 2011 Highly recommend you read the book " Gut and Psychology Syndrome " by Dr Natasha -McBride . Many of our children do really really well on gfcf diets and even better on GAPS/SCD diet or somewhere in between. Nowadays you can buy gfcf breads or bake your own using other flours like coconut or nut flours, use honey or dates to sweeten foods. Soya isn't that good either for many of our kids and luckily you can buy ice-cream made from cashew nuts( booja booja) or lollies made with 100% fruit. You don't have to be strict forever . > > Hi everyone > Just wanted to check how strict are you with the GFCF diet. > Does the occasional biscuit or chocolate make a difference? > I find it impossible to totally avoid gluten ( bread and biscuit, crossaints) and sugar . We can get away using soy for milk but icecreams can be a real problem especially when we are out and about. > > I am sure that a totally GFCF diet is best how it is going to be a reality is doubtful. If the case is that any gluten totally undoes any good then may be there is no point in attempting it. > > thanks > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 4, 2011 Report Share Posted December 4, 2011 Highly recommend you read the book " Gut and Psychology Syndrome " by Dr Natasha -McBride . Many of our children do really really well on gfcf diets and even better on GAPS/SCD diet or somewhere in between. Nowadays you can buy gfcf breads or bake your own using other flours like coconut or nut flours, use honey or dates to sweeten foods. Soya isn't that good either for many of our kids and luckily you can buy ice-cream made from cashew nuts( booja booja) or lollies made with 100% fruit. You don't have to be strict forever . > > Hi everyone > Just wanted to check how strict are you with the GFCF diet. > Does the occasional biscuit or chocolate make a difference? > I find it impossible to totally avoid gluten ( bread and biscuit, crossaints) and sugar . We can get away using soy for milk but icecreams can be a real problem especially when we are out and about. > > I am sure that a totally GFCF diet is best how it is going to be a reality is doubtful. If the case is that any gluten totally undoes any good then may be there is no point in attempting it. > > thanks > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 4, 2011 Report Share Posted December 4, 2011 Highly recommend you read the book " Gut and Psychology Syndrome " by Dr Natasha -McBride . Many of our children do really really well on gfcf diets and even better on GAPS/SCD diet or somewhere in between. Nowadays you can buy gfcf breads or bake your own using other flours like coconut or nut flours, use honey or dates to sweeten foods. Soya isn't that good either for many of our kids and luckily you can buy ice-cream made from cashew nuts( booja booja) or lollies made with 100% fruit. You don't have to be strict forever . > > Hi everyone > Just wanted to check how strict are you with the GFCF diet. > Does the occasional biscuit or chocolate make a difference? > I find it impossible to totally avoid gluten ( bread and biscuit, crossaints) and sugar . We can get away using soy for milk but icecreams can be a real problem especially when we are out and about. > > I am sure that a totally GFCF diet is best how it is going to be a reality is doubtful. If the case is that any gluten totally undoes any good then may be there is no point in attempting it. > > thanks > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 4, 2011 Report Share Posted December 4, 2011 Booja-booja non dairy non soya " ice cream " can be GFCF complaint being mainly cashew nuts and agave syrup (though not SCD compliant). Health food shops - very expensive. Margaret > > Hi everyone > Just wanted to check how strict are you with the GFCF diet. > Does the occasional biscuit or chocolate make a difference? > I find it impossible to totally avoid gluten ( bread and biscuit, crossaints) and sugar . We can get away using soy for milk but icecreams can be a real problem especially when we are out and about. > > I am sure that a totally GFCF diet is best how it is going to be a reality is doubtful. If the case is that any gluten totally undoes any good then may be there is no point in attempting it. > > thanks > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 4, 2011 Report Share Posted December 4, 2011 Booja-booja non dairy non soya " ice cream " can be GFCF complaint being mainly cashew nuts and agave syrup (though not SCD compliant). Health food shops - very expensive. Margaret > > Hi everyone > Just wanted to check how strict are you with the GFCF diet. > Does the occasional biscuit or chocolate make a difference? > I find it impossible to totally avoid gluten ( bread and biscuit, crossaints) and sugar . We can get away using soy for milk but icecreams can be a real problem especially when we are out and about. > > I am sure that a totally GFCF diet is best how it is going to be a reality is doubtful. If the case is that any gluten totally undoes any good then may be there is no point in attempting it. > > thanks > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 4, 2011 Report Share Posted December 4, 2011 Booja-booja non dairy non soya " ice cream " can be GFCF complaint being mainly cashew nuts and agave syrup (though not SCD compliant). Health food shops - very expensive. Margaret > > Hi everyone > Just wanted to check how strict are you with the GFCF diet. > Does the occasional biscuit or chocolate make a difference? > I find it impossible to totally avoid gluten ( bread and biscuit, crossaints) and sugar . We can get away using soy for milk but icecreams can be a real problem especially when we are out and about. > > I am sure that a totally GFCF diet is best how it is going to be a reality is doubtful. If the case is that any gluten totally undoes any good then may be there is no point in attempting it. > > thanks > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 4, 2011 Report Share Posted December 4, 2011 Its needs to be strict for to see full effect in most. The alternative that works for many is digestive enzymes when out and about or alongside or even instead of the diet www.EnzymeInfo.co.uk This is my site, I sell Houston Enzymes but I loved them before I sold them Mandi x Hi everyoneJust wanted to check how strict are you with the GFCF diet. Does the occasional biscuit or chocolate make a difference? I find it impossible to totally avoid gluten ( bread and biscuit, crossaints) and sugar . We can get away using soy for milk but icecreams can be a real problem especially when we are out and about. I am sure that a totally GFCF diet is best how it is going to be a reality is doubtful. If the case is that any gluten totally undoes any good then may be there is no point in attempting it. thanks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 4, 2011 Report Share Posted December 4, 2011 Its needs to be strict for to see full effect in most. The alternative that works for many is digestive enzymes when out and about or alongside or even instead of the diet www.EnzymeInfo.co.uk This is my site, I sell Houston Enzymes but I loved them before I sold them Mandi x Hi everyoneJust wanted to check how strict are you with the GFCF diet. Does the occasional biscuit or chocolate make a difference? I find it impossible to totally avoid gluten ( bread and biscuit, crossaints) and sugar . We can get away using soy for milk but icecreams can be a real problem especially when we are out and about. I am sure that a totally GFCF diet is best how it is going to be a reality is doubtful. If the case is that any gluten totally undoes any good then may be there is no point in attempting it. thanks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 4, 2011 Report Share Posted December 4, 2011 Its needs to be strict for to see full effect in most. The alternative that works for many is digestive enzymes when out and about or alongside or even instead of the diet www.EnzymeInfo.co.uk This is my site, I sell Houston Enzymes but I loved them before I sold them Mandi x Hi everyoneJust wanted to check how strict are you with the GFCF diet. Does the occasional biscuit or chocolate make a difference? I find it impossible to totally avoid gluten ( bread and biscuit, crossaints) and sugar . We can get away using soy for milk but icecreams can be a real problem especially when we are out and about. I am sure that a totally GFCF diet is best how it is going to be a reality is doubtful. If the case is that any gluten totally undoes any good then may be there is no point in attempting it. thanks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 4, 2011 Report Share Posted December 4, 2011 We use digestive enzymes instead of GFCF. My son had his difficulties from the day he was born and he didn't have any gluten until he was 18 months old. Once introduced I didn't notice any differences. My son is intolerent to salicylates. We had such good results from no fenol enzymes I added in tri enza (which contains DPP1V) to breakdown glutein and caesin. He is fine with gluten but does not tolerate any dairy, however this is for different reasons. Th find out what he could/couldn't tolerate prior to enzymes we did strict elimination. Strict elimination is the only way to find out or yo will never know what the problems are. All our kids are different. My understadning is GF/CF diet is just the name of the diet and means no MSG or soy either. I gree the GAPS book is excellent to read. Another one to follow it up with is enzymes and autism - Deflice (I think Mandi has this available to loan - excellent.Also worth talking with others who have seen WOWS from enzymes - they changed my sons life! BWAlison Rowbotham Booja-booja non dairy non soya " ice cream " can be GFCF complaint being mainly cashew nuts and agave syrup (though not SCD compliant). Health food shops - very expensive. Margaret > > Hi everyone > Just wanted to check how strict are you with the GFCF diet. > Does the occasional biscuit or chocolate make a difference? > I find it impossible to totally avoid gluten ( bread and biscuit, crossaints) and sugar . We can get away using soy for milk but icecreams can be a real problem especially when we are out and about. > > I am sure that a totally GFCF diet is best how it is going to be a reality is doubtful. If the case is that any gluten totally undoes any good then may be there is no point in attempting it. > > thanks > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 4, 2011 Report Share Posted December 4, 2011 We use digestive enzymes instead of GFCF. My son had his difficulties from the day he was born and he didn't have any gluten until he was 18 months old. Once introduced I didn't notice any differences. My son is intolerent to salicylates. We had such good results from no fenol enzymes I added in tri enza (which contains DPP1V) to breakdown glutein and caesin. He is fine with gluten but does not tolerate any dairy, however this is for different reasons. Th find out what he could/couldn't tolerate prior to enzymes we did strict elimination. Strict elimination is the only way to find out or yo will never know what the problems are. All our kids are different. My understadning is GF/CF diet is just the name of the diet and means no MSG or soy either. I gree the GAPS book is excellent to read. Another one to follow it up with is enzymes and autism - Deflice (I think Mandi has this available to loan - excellent.Also worth talking with others who have seen WOWS from enzymes - they changed my sons life! BWAlison Rowbotham Booja-booja non dairy non soya " ice cream " can be GFCF complaint being mainly cashew nuts and agave syrup (though not SCD compliant). Health food shops - very expensive. Margaret > > Hi everyone > Just wanted to check how strict are you with the GFCF diet. > Does the occasional biscuit or chocolate make a difference? > I find it impossible to totally avoid gluten ( bread and biscuit, crossaints) and sugar . We can get away using soy for milk but icecreams can be a real problem especially when we are out and about. > > I am sure that a totally GFCF diet is best how it is going to be a reality is doubtful. If the case is that any gluten totally undoes any good then may be there is no point in attempting it. > > thanks > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 4, 2011 Report Share Posted December 4, 2011 We use digestive enzymes instead of GFCF. My son had his difficulties from the day he was born and he didn't have any gluten until he was 18 months old. Once introduced I didn't notice any differences. My son is intolerent to salicylates. We had such good results from no fenol enzymes I added in tri enza (which contains DPP1V) to breakdown glutein and caesin. He is fine with gluten but does not tolerate any dairy, however this is for different reasons. Th find out what he could/couldn't tolerate prior to enzymes we did strict elimination. Strict elimination is the only way to find out or yo will never know what the problems are. All our kids are different. My understadning is GF/CF diet is just the name of the diet and means no MSG or soy either. I gree the GAPS book is excellent to read. Another one to follow it up with is enzymes and autism - Deflice (I think Mandi has this available to loan - excellent.Also worth talking with others who have seen WOWS from enzymes - they changed my sons life! BWAlison Rowbotham Booja-booja non dairy non soya " ice cream " can be GFCF complaint being mainly cashew nuts and agave syrup (though not SCD compliant). Health food shops - very expensive. Margaret > > Hi everyone > Just wanted to check how strict are you with the GFCF diet. > Does the occasional biscuit or chocolate make a difference? > I find it impossible to totally avoid gluten ( bread and biscuit, crossaints) and sugar . We can get away using soy for milk but icecreams can be a real problem especially when we are out and about. > > I am sure that a totally GFCF diet is best how it is going to be a reality is doubtful. If the case is that any gluten totally undoes any good then may be there is no point in attempting it. > > thanks > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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