Guest guest Posted June 28, 2004 Report Share Posted June 28, 2004 The methacoline challenge or bronchial provocation test is part of a pulmonary function test (PFT). It's more then just a peak flow. The respiratory therapist will test your/his/her FVC (forced vital capacity) to get a FEV1 (forced expiratory volume in one second). After that the RT will administer a drug called methacloine. Much like histamine, this will cause an asthma attack. Once the attack is measured the RT will administer a bronchodilator like Albuterol or something like it. Then test the FEV1 again. If the methacloine sparks an attack, and the bronchodilator reverses it, it's a good bet that the patient has asthma. The two things that make asthma different from the 4 other obstructive lung diseases is that asthma is reversible and episodic. > > In a message dated 6/27/2004 7:33:20 AM Central Standard Time, > > asthma writes: > > Doctors are the worst. they > > are trained to treat an illness after it occurs, not allot of time > > on prevention. >>> > > > > I agree. And I have a question about diagnosing asthma. My son, > 8, has bad > > allergies (mostly dust mites) and he reacts very strongly to strong > smells > > like exhaust. He has had a few attacks that look more like asthma > than allergies > > in the last couple of months. One was after being outside all day- > -the > > attack was at bedtime. He suddenly started coughing and crying and > saying he > > couldn't breath and his chest hurt. The other was after my > daughter melted > > plastic toys in the microwave and the smell was awful. He had the > same type of > > reaction to that. He recovered both times within half hour or so. > We took him to > > the allergist. He was congested (like allergies) and when he blew > into the > > machine, he had trouble with the narrow tubes you blow into--the > Dr. said his > > airways were narrowed. He gave us Nasonex and Singulair to try for > a few > > weeks. Then he said he couldn't say if he had asthma or not. The > next time > > something happened we were to take him to the ER and they could > tell us. That was > > that. > > > > > > Where's the prevention in that? Is that the only way to find out > if you have > > asthma? Now if he did have it, it must not be too bad, but still-- > don't I > > need to know that? He did improve on the medications.....BUT I > don't want to > > give him meds every day if no one can tell me if he does or doesn't > have asthma! > > Sigh..... > > > > Dee Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 28, 2004 Report Share Posted June 28, 2004 The methacoline challenge or bronchial provocation test is part of a pulmonary function test (PFT). It's more then just a peak flow. The respiratory therapist will test your/his/her FVC (forced vital capacity) to get a FEV1 (forced expiratory volume in one second). After that the RT will administer a drug called methacloine. Much like histamine, this will cause an asthma attack. Once the attack is measured the RT will administer a bronchodilator like Albuterol or something like it. Then test the FEV1 again. If the methacloine sparks an attack, and the bronchodilator reverses it, it's a good bet that the patient has asthma. The two things that make asthma different from the 4 other obstructive lung diseases is that asthma is reversible and episodic. > > In a message dated 6/27/2004 7:33:20 AM Central Standard Time, > > asthma writes: > > Doctors are the worst. they > > are trained to treat an illness after it occurs, not allot of time > > on prevention. >>> > > > > I agree. And I have a question about diagnosing asthma. My son, > 8, has bad > > allergies (mostly dust mites) and he reacts very strongly to strong > smells > > like exhaust. He has had a few attacks that look more like asthma > than allergies > > in the last couple of months. One was after being outside all day- > -the > > attack was at bedtime. He suddenly started coughing and crying and > saying he > > couldn't breath and his chest hurt. The other was after my > daughter melted > > plastic toys in the microwave and the smell was awful. He had the > same type of > > reaction to that. He recovered both times within half hour or so. > We took him to > > the allergist. He was congested (like allergies) and when he blew > into the > > machine, he had trouble with the narrow tubes you blow into--the > Dr. said his > > airways were narrowed. He gave us Nasonex and Singulair to try for > a few > > weeks. Then he said he couldn't say if he had asthma or not. The > next time > > something happened we were to take him to the ER and they could > tell us. That was > > that. > > > > > > Where's the prevention in that? Is that the only way to find out > if you have > > asthma? Now if he did have it, it must not be too bad, but still-- > don't I > > need to know that? He did improve on the medications.....BUT I > don't want to > > give him meds every day if no one can tell me if he does or doesn't > have asthma! > > Sigh..... > > > > Dee Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 28, 2004 Report Share Posted June 28, 2004 The methacoline challenge or bronchial provocation test is part of a pulmonary function test (PFT). It's more then just a peak flow. The respiratory therapist will test your/his/her FVC (forced vital capacity) to get a FEV1 (forced expiratory volume in one second). After that the RT will administer a drug called methacloine. Much like histamine, this will cause an asthma attack. Once the attack is measured the RT will administer a bronchodilator like Albuterol or something like it. Then test the FEV1 again. If the methacloine sparks an attack, and the bronchodilator reverses it, it's a good bet that the patient has asthma. The two things that make asthma different from the 4 other obstructive lung diseases is that asthma is reversible and episodic. > > In a message dated 6/27/2004 7:33:20 AM Central Standard Time, > > asthma writes: > > Doctors are the worst. they > > are trained to treat an illness after it occurs, not allot of time > > on prevention. >>> > > > > I agree. And I have a question about diagnosing asthma. My son, > 8, has bad > > allergies (mostly dust mites) and he reacts very strongly to strong > smells > > like exhaust. He has had a few attacks that look more like asthma > than allergies > > in the last couple of months. One was after being outside all day- > -the > > attack was at bedtime. He suddenly started coughing and crying and > saying he > > couldn't breath and his chest hurt. The other was after my > daughter melted > > plastic toys in the microwave and the smell was awful. He had the > same type of > > reaction to that. He recovered both times within half hour or so. > We took him to > > the allergist. He was congested (like allergies) and when he blew > into the > > machine, he had trouble with the narrow tubes you blow into--the > Dr. said his > > airways were narrowed. He gave us Nasonex and Singulair to try for > a few > > weeks. Then he said he couldn't say if he had asthma or not. The > next time > > something happened we were to take him to the ER and they could > tell us. That was > > that. > > > > > > Where's the prevention in that? Is that the only way to find out > if you have > > asthma? Now if he did have it, it must not be too bad, but still-- > don't I > > need to know that? He did improve on the medications.....BUT I > don't want to > > give him meds every day if no one can tell me if he does or doesn't > have asthma! > > Sigh..... > > > > Dee Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 9, 2004 Report Share Posted July 9, 2004 Thanks Matt for giving a more thorough explanation. Angie > > > In a message dated 6/27/2004 7:33:20 AM Central Standard Time, > > > asthma writes: > > > Doctors are the worst. they > > > are trained to treat an illness after it occurs, not allot of > time > > > on prevention. >>> > > > > > > I agree. And I have a question about diagnosing asthma. My > son, > > 8, has bad > > > allergies (mostly dust mites) and he reacts very strongly to > strong > > smells > > > like exhaust. He has had a few attacks that look more like > asthma > > than allergies > > > in the last couple of months. One was after being outside all > day- > > -the > > > attack was at bedtime. He suddenly started coughing and crying > and > > saying he > > > couldn't breath and his chest hurt. The other was after my > > daughter melted > > > plastic toys in the microwave and the smell was awful. He had > the > > same type of > > > reaction to that. He recovered both times within half hour or > so. > > We took him to > > > the allergist. He was congested (like allergies) and when he > blew > > into the > > > machine, he had trouble with the narrow tubes you blow into-- the > > Dr. said his > > > airways were narrowed. He gave us Nasonex and Singulair to try > for > > a few > > > weeks. Then he said he couldn't say if he had asthma or not. > The > > next time > > > something happened we were to take him to the ER and they could > > tell us. That was > > > that. > > > > > > > > > Where's the prevention in that? Is that the only way to find > out > > if you have > > > asthma? Now if he did have it, it must not be too bad, but > still-- > > don't I > > > need to know that? He did improve on the medications.....BUT I > > don't want to > > > give him meds every day if no one can tell me if he does or > doesn't > > have asthma! > > > Sigh..... > > > > > > Dee Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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