Guest guest Posted February 2, 2003 Report Share Posted February 2, 2003 Hi : I am very pleased that you are having success and that you did not have to over pay for your DOC Band. My most recent patient was told it would cost them $5300. This was very disturbing to me. It is also disturbing that there are some orthotists applying the cranial remodeling bands that are not qualified, as you mentioned. There are different classifications of 'Orthotists' and granted, even with the credentials not every professional is adroit in the skill it takes to mold, apply and do accurate follow-ups. The DOC Band people do a terrific job. I was just concerned about the amount one DOC Band company was charging. I have been applying cranial bands for over 2 years with great success. I have over 35 years in pediatric biomechanics with 15 in the cervical/cranial area. I studied at Northwestern along with attending numerous cranial seminars. We have a team effort in our area where both pediatric therapists and neurologists assist in the follow-ups of my plagio patients. Take care. Dan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 2, 2003 Report Share Posted February 2, 2003 Hi : Please understand that I feel the DOC band is wonderful. I have not heard one bad thing about the company. I was only questioning about what I was told last week by a parent. It appears by your answer that the parent may have misinterpreted the info they received. Are all DOC Band companies required to abide by corporate rules and have set limits on the amounts they charge? I would greatly appreciate it if you do not group me with other orthotists that have given maladroit cranial remodeling to children and families over the years. Kind regards, Dan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 2, 2003 Report Share Posted February 2, 2003 Thanks for your reply . In fact I plan to contact CT tomorrow to hopefully enroll in their program. I do feel that their program is the best around even though I have been using Orthomerica for 2 years. I do not want to be grouped anymore with orthotists that have not done their homework and are providing ill fitting devices. When I heard about the cost I almost had a change of heart. I want to make sure that I would not be held to corporate price guide lines. I am in a position that if a family cannot afford the entire cost of a cranial band, I usually absorb the remaining cost. I would treat kids for free if I could. What can you tell me about enrollment in CT? Kind regards, Dan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 2, 2003 Report Share Posted February 2, 2003 Thanks . I will contact her tomorrow. Take care. Dan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 2, 2003 Report Share Posted February 2, 2003 - Where in Ohio are you? We are in Cleveland and Dane's band cost $2900. I feel that was a real bargain. I was so glad to go to a kid friendly place with tons of experience dealing solely with heads. The bands may do the same thing, but CT folks are very educated where SOME STARband orthos aren't. We have had several STAR dropouts this week alone from inexperienced orthos. We have heard reports of bands being big enough to fit a small adult. You would never hear of CT sending a band like that out to the clinic because they inspect them carefully. If you find a reputable STARband ortho you can get a real bargain, but that is not always the case. The DOC Band rebellion is referring to Kari's daughter continually taking off her band by pulling on one end and pushing off the other. Can you tell us what kind of experience you have with the bands (ie how many you have done and what kind of training/supervision you had while you were learning)? Dane's mom DOC Grad > Hello: > > Kari has not answered my email as of yet. Are parents having problems with > the DOC Band and if so what kind of problems? > > Many of my patients parents have been disgusted over the DOC Band cost and > the lack of compassion when it comes to insurance out of pocket expenses. The > DOC Band I am told is over twice the cost of the Starband. Biomechanically > they do the exact same thing. > > In my practice in Ohio, I normally only charge what the insurance company > allows. I have heard that some DOC Band companies charge over $5000. > > Cole > Pediatric Orthotist Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 2, 2003 Report Share Posted February 2, 2003 Dan, I do apologize if I came across as rude. It really infuriates me when misinformation is posted here. I feel it is a great disservice to our new members. You said in your post that " Many of my patients parents have been disgusted over the DOC Band cost and the lack of compassion when it comes to insurance out of pocket expenses. " How many of these parents have actually had any dealings with CT? Or is it just ONE parent that you heard this from? You've said many parents and then you said one parent. Which is it? One would think since your a pediatriac orhotist you would of gotten your facts straight before you posted. We have a lot of new members joining everyday. It is SO IMPORTANT that what they read here is ACCURATE! They look to us for support, understanding and accurate information. The impression that I got from your post was that you saw what you thought was a negative comment about the DOCband and you jumped on it. That didn't sit well with me, I for one will be forever greatful to CT and the ortho that treats my daughter. To answer your question: Taken from the Cranial Tech web site " The DOC Band is provided by two different methods: (a) Cranial Technologies Centers, and ( Licensed Centers. Since Licensed Centers are not owned by Cranial Technologies, you may find different business policies, including price of the band, etc. However, treatment protocols are the same in all DOC Band Centers " " Every DOC Band is fabricated, following quality guidelines, at our headquarters in Arizona. Every clinician has trained with us and passed written and practical exams for treating plagiocephaly with the DOC Band. Additionally, each Center is audited annually to evaluate the level of treatment being provided. Yearly continuing education is required for clinicians in both licensed and CTI owned centers. " > Hi : > > Please understand that I feel the DOC band is wonderful. I have not heard one > bad thing about the company. I was only questioning about what I was told > last week by a parent. It appears by your answer that the parent may have > misinterpreted the info they received. > > Are all DOC Band companies required to abide by corporate rules and have set > limits on the amounts they charge? > > I would greatly appreciate it if you do not group me with other orthotists > that have given maladroit cranial remodeling to children and families over > the years. > > Kind regards, > > Dan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 2, 2003 Report Share Posted February 2, 2003 I don't really understand how you can be saying 1 thing about a company and the next minute and changing your mind the next. I truly think you just want to help the babies and families but you seem to be changing your views minute to minute. I do think it is great you are helping families who can't afford the entire cost of the band! Angie Re: Re: DOC Band Thanks for your reply . In fact I plan to contact CT tomorrow to hopefully enroll in their program. I do feel that their program is the best around even though I have been using Orthomerica for 2 years. I do not want to be grouped anymore with orthotists that have not done their homework and are providing ill fitting devices.When I heard about the cost I almost had a change of heart. I want to make sure that I would not be held to corporate price guide lines. I am in a position that if a family cannot afford the entire cost of a cranial band, I usually absorb the remaining cost. I would treat kids for free if I could.What can you tell me about enrollment in CT? Kind regards,Dan For more plagio info Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 3, 2003 Report Share Posted February 3, 2003 In a message dated 2/2/2003 9:57:57 AM Eastern Standard Time, intelisens@... writes: I have heard that some DOC Band companies charge over $5000. , Our DOC band was a total of $3,000 which included everything, cast to fittings. My insurance company paid 100% of the cost!!! They are out there (paying ins. companies) unfortunately, some parents are having a hard time with their getting their insurance companies to pay. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 12, 2005 Report Share Posted March 12, 2005 hello and welcome Are you in the UK? Would love to get feedback on the CT there. I heard Charlotte there is a great clinician. At your son's age he will probably be in the band for that long. Growth slows down after about 1 year, but I " m thrilled to hear that you are going for it. Please keep us posted on how casting goes tomorrow. Take something with you that he likes to get his attention off the casting. Sandy Willow's mom > > my son is 18 months old and has been diagnosed with moderate > plagiocephaly ,since diagnosis i hav in bed repostioned him and had > sleepless nights doing so that i have seen a vast improvement...he > is due for a cating on monday with cranialtech they have said 4- 5 > months in band.. has anybody had a child in band for less time than > stated.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 12, 2005 Report Share Posted March 12, 2005 My older daughter, who is now 5, got her DOC band at 19 months and they had originally told me she would probably be in her band for 4-5 months or so. She had a major growth spurt during her time in the band and graduated after three months in it. I think with older babies they say that long of a period because their growth has slowed down some. You may find that your son will hit a growth spurt during his time in the band and the time they have told you will be cut down. Johanna and Tatijana (DOC grad 05/02) and lyse (DOC banded 02/01/05) >From: "darkangel786uk" <darkangel786uk@...> >Reply-Plagiocephaly >Plagiocephaly >Subject: doc band >Date: Sat, 12 Mar 2005 15:28:02 -0000 > > > >my son is 18 months old and has been diagnosed with moderate >plagiocephaly ,since diagnosis i hav in bed repostioned him and had >sleepless nights doing so that i have seen a vast improvement...he >is due for a cating on monday with cranialtech they have said 4- 5 >months in band.. has anybody had a child in band for less time than >stated.. > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 14, 2005 Report Share Posted March 14, 2005 While there haven't been long term studies conducted there are members here whose children were treated five years or more ago and there are no reports of developmental delays from treatment with DOCbands, STARbands or other orthotic helmets. Natasha Atlanta, GA > > Has the doc band been known to cause development delays in > children treated... has anybody had experienced this? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 15, 2005 Report Share Posted March 15, 2005 No. It actually been researched that the DOC band allows normal brain development. Cranial Growth Unrestricted During Treatment of Deformational PlagiocephalyThis study demonstrates that infants follow the normal growth curves with respect to head circumference, length and width during the course of treatment.. http://www.cranialtech.com/ParentsArea/publications/cti1174.pdf Studies/Publications on Health Risks and Developmental Concerns in Infants with Plagiocephaly, Brachycephaly, Scaphocephaly. Check here for research looking into health or development concerns associated with infants with plagiocephaly, brachycephaly, scaphocephaly. mom to na DOC Grad South Carolina www.thefilyaws.com darkangel786uk <darkangel786uk@...> wrote: Has the doc band been known to cause development delays in children treated... has anybody had experienced this?For more plagio info Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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