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Sex was a topic of discussion as well. The children were to blame if she

was tired at night. (not kidding!!) We constantly got reports of this!

Then after I married, they'd always question about this topic which I would

never disclose to them.

Ellen

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>My nada was also always curious about how much we paid for something and how

>much my hubby got paid.

>I got good at the " Ann Landers's type answers but she'd still push. Talk

about

>no boundaries.

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>Ilene

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Sex was a topic of discussion as well. The children were to blame if she

was tired at night. (not kidding!!) We constantly got reports of this!

Then after I married, they'd always question about this topic which I would

never disclose to them.

Ellen

At 08:47 AM 11/28/01 -0600, you wrote:

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>

>My nada was also always curious about how much we paid for something and how

>much my hubby got paid.

>I got good at the " Ann Landers's type answers but she'd still push. Talk

about

>no boundaries.

>

>

>Ilene

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Sex was a topic of discussion as well. The children were to blame if she

was tired at night. (not kidding!!) We constantly got reports of this!

Then after I married, they'd always question about this topic which I would

never disclose to them.

Ellen

At 08:47 AM 11/28/01 -0600, you wrote:

>

>

>My nada was also always curious about how much we paid for something and how

>much my hubby got paid.

>I got good at the " Ann Landers's type answers but she'd still push. Talk

about

>no boundaries.

>

>

>Ilene

>

>

>

>

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ModOasis-owner . " Stop Waking on Eggshells, " a primer for

non-BPs can be ordered via 1-888-35-SHELL (). For the table of

contents, see http://www.BPDCentral.com

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Hello all,

I am new here. My mother was diagnosed with bpd a year ago and my father

divorced here about 8 months ago. I understand what all of you mean about

the money. My father is a dr, and I grew up with money. But that was my

mothers obsession. Even now after the divorce she freaks out about it

always complaining that she is destitute. Now my father gives her 5 grand a

month for alimoney. Her brand new house is paid for and she does not have

that many bills. I don't know about you but I would love to live off that

kind of money. My husband just lost his job and we are trying to make it.

And she has to call hysterical that she is poor. I have been trying to set

the boundaries with her and tell her she has a lot more money than she

realizes. But as we all know that is pointless. I had all the money

growing up and after several incidences, i moved in with my husband with

basically the clothes on my back. We did not have much but we are happy.

We have come a long ways, but we realize that money is not everything. Love

and happiness, plus sucess emotionally and mentally are far more important

than tonz of money.

Also Ellen had brought up the topic of sex. What I was wondering if any of

you experienced this as well. My mother always told me about her intimate

life with my father. I have known things about this since I was 12. There

are just so many things that a kid does not need to know about when it comes

to the intimacy parents share. That was such a major boundry that a parent

could cross. Even her views on sex still haunt me. I was raised to believe

that sex is only for the man and you have to always satisfy your husband

even if you are not in the mood. I have worked through a lot of these

issues and my husband is very supportive. He has made me see that sex is an

equal give and take loving thing between two people. Just wanted to know if

any others have experienced any of this. Thanks for listening.

>Sex was a topic of discussion as well. The children were to blame if she

>was tired at night. (not kidding!!) We constantly got reports of this!

>Then after I married, they'd always question about this topic which I would

>never disclose to them.

>

>Ellen

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My " old " mother and her generation grew up during depression. They know what

it's like to lose everything in one fell swoop! As a result, they hold onto

money like there's no tomorrow. They'll need it for a rainy day, but no rainy

day is ever rainy enough. And they keep tucking more and more away,

just in case the storm of the century comes. It never does, but they're not

going to take any chances.

I've worked with people and their finances for over 30 years, and I've seen this

over and over and over again with that generation, with or without BPD. It's a

very consistent pattern, but then again, there are degrees, and perhaps BPDs are

the extreme. I'm sure I must have unknowingly worked with

some BPDs, but I wasn't aware of it, since I only learned about the condition a

few months ago.

Best wishes,

Carol

Hildegard6@... wrote:

> A lot of old people seem to have this obsession with money. I find

> that strange, as you can't take it with you in your grave, can you?

> I think being generous is being unconditional. It's giving because

> you feel like giving, not because you expect something in return.

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you are so right about money - " Love and happiness, plus sucess emotionally

and mentally are far more important

than tonz of money. " : =)

Re: money is the root....

> Hello all,

>

> I am new here. My mother was diagnosed with bpd a year ago and my

father

> divorced here about 8 months ago. I understand what all of you mean about

> the money. My father is a dr, and I grew up with money. But that was my

> mothers obsession. Even now after the divorce she freaks out about it

> always complaining that she is destitute. Now my father gives her 5 grand

a

> month for alimoney. Her brand new house is paid for and she does not have

> that many bills. I don't know about you but I would love to live off that

> kind of money. My husband just lost his job and we are trying to make it.

> And she has to call hysterical that she is poor. I have been trying to

set

> the boundaries with her and tell her she has a lot more money than she

> realizes. But as we all know that is pointless. I had all the money

> growing up and after several incidences, i moved in with my husband with

> basically the clothes on my back. We did not have much but we are happy.

> We have come a long ways, but we realize that money is not everything.

Love

> and happiness, plus sucess emotionally and mentally are far more important

> than tonz of money.

>

> Also Ellen had brought up the topic of sex. What I was wondering if any

of

> you experienced this as well. My mother always told me about her intimate

> life with my father. I have known things about this since I was 12.

There

> are just so many things that a kid does not need to know about when it

comes

> to the intimacy parents share. That was such a major boundry that a

parent

> could cross. Even her views on sex still haunt me. I was raised to

believe

> that sex is only for the man and you have to always satisfy your husband

> even if you are not in the mood. I have worked through a lot of these

> issues and my husband is very supportive. He has made me see that sex is

an

> equal give and take loving thing between two people. Just wanted to know

if

> any others have experienced any of this. Thanks for listening.

>

>

> >Sex was a topic of discussion as well. The children were to blame if she

> >was tired at night. (not kidding!!) We constantly got reports of this!

> >Then after I married, they'd always question about this topic which I

would

> >never disclose to them.

> >

> >Ellen

> >

>

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you are so right about money - " Love and happiness, plus sucess emotionally

and mentally are far more important

than tonz of money. " : =)

Re: money is the root....

> Hello all,

>

> I am new here. My mother was diagnosed with bpd a year ago and my

father

> divorced here about 8 months ago. I understand what all of you mean about

> the money. My father is a dr, and I grew up with money. But that was my

> mothers obsession. Even now after the divorce she freaks out about it

> always complaining that she is destitute. Now my father gives her 5 grand

a

> month for alimoney. Her brand new house is paid for and she does not have

> that many bills. I don't know about you but I would love to live off that

> kind of money. My husband just lost his job and we are trying to make it.

> And she has to call hysterical that she is poor. I have been trying to

set

> the boundaries with her and tell her she has a lot more money than she

> realizes. But as we all know that is pointless. I had all the money

> growing up and after several incidences, i moved in with my husband with

> basically the clothes on my back. We did not have much but we are happy.

> We have come a long ways, but we realize that money is not everything.

Love

> and happiness, plus sucess emotionally and mentally are far more important

> than tonz of money.

>

> Also Ellen had brought up the topic of sex. What I was wondering if any

of

> you experienced this as well. My mother always told me about her intimate

> life with my father. I have known things about this since I was 12.

There

> are just so many things that a kid does not need to know about when it

comes

> to the intimacy parents share. That was such a major boundry that a

parent

> could cross. Even her views on sex still haunt me. I was raised to

believe

> that sex is only for the man and you have to always satisfy your husband

> even if you are not in the mood. I have worked through a lot of these

> issues and my husband is very supportive. He has made me see that sex is

an

> equal give and take loving thing between two people. Just wanted to know

if

> any others have experienced any of this. Thanks for listening.

>

>

> >Sex was a topic of discussion as well. The children were to blame if she

> >was tired at night. (not kidding!!) We constantly got reports of this!

> >Then after I married, they'd always question about this topic which I

would

> >never disclose to them.

> >

> >Ellen

> >

>

> _________________________________________________________________

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>

>

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ModOasis-owner . " Stop Waking on Eggshells, " a primer for

non-BPs can be ordered via 1-888-35-SHELL (). For the table of

contents, see http://www.BPDCentral.com

>

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you are so right about money - " Love and happiness, plus sucess emotionally

and mentally are far more important

than tonz of money. " : =)

Re: money is the root....

> Hello all,

>

> I am new here. My mother was diagnosed with bpd a year ago and my

father

> divorced here about 8 months ago. I understand what all of you mean about

> the money. My father is a dr, and I grew up with money. But that was my

> mothers obsession. Even now after the divorce she freaks out about it

> always complaining that she is destitute. Now my father gives her 5 grand

a

> month for alimoney. Her brand new house is paid for and she does not have

> that many bills. I don't know about you but I would love to live off that

> kind of money. My husband just lost his job and we are trying to make it.

> And she has to call hysterical that she is poor. I have been trying to

set

> the boundaries with her and tell her she has a lot more money than she

> realizes. But as we all know that is pointless. I had all the money

> growing up and after several incidences, i moved in with my husband with

> basically the clothes on my back. We did not have much but we are happy.

> We have come a long ways, but we realize that money is not everything.

Love

> and happiness, plus sucess emotionally and mentally are far more important

> than tonz of money.

>

> Also Ellen had brought up the topic of sex. What I was wondering if any

of

> you experienced this as well. My mother always told me about her intimate

> life with my father. I have known things about this since I was 12.

There

> are just so many things that a kid does not need to know about when it

comes

> to the intimacy parents share. That was such a major boundry that a

parent

> could cross. Even her views on sex still haunt me. I was raised to

believe

> that sex is only for the man and you have to always satisfy your husband

> even if you are not in the mood. I have worked through a lot of these

> issues and my husband is very supportive. He has made me see that sex is

an

> equal give and take loving thing between two people. Just wanted to know

if

> any others have experienced any of this. Thanks for listening.

>

>

> >Sex was a topic of discussion as well. The children were to blame if she

> >was tired at night. (not kidding!!) We constantly got reports of this!

> >Then after I married, they'd always question about this topic which I

would

> >never disclose to them.

> >

> >Ellen

> >

>

> _________________________________________________________________

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>

>

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contents, see http://www.BPDCentral.com

>

>

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Hi Ilene

That's an interesting thought - how would a couple pf BPDs get on with each

other? Would it be a total nightmare of a love feast?

Take care

Minja

> RE: money is the root....

> Maybe I should send my nada to visit yours and they could talk about money

> and

> how ungrateful their daughters were/are!!! Yes, my nada focused on money

> all

> the time, but I didn't realize how much until your post!

>

> Ilene

>

>

>

>

> To get off the list, send a blank message to

> ModOasis-unsubscribe . Send questions & concerns to

> ModOasis-owner . " Stop Waking on Eggshells, " a primer for

> non-BPs can be ordered via 1-888-35-SHELL (). For the table of

> contents, see http://www.BPDCentral.com

>

>

>

>

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--- Minja Simpson wrote:

> Hi everyone

> Have you also found that money is one of your nada's

> prime tools for

> manipulation?

I am behind in responding to these interesting

messages because work has been busy.

My parents use money as manipulation. They want to

pay for things for me and will not let me repay them.

That makes me feel indebted to them. They then expect

certain things from me because they bought me things.

I now try to not let them buy me anything and not make

any deals with them. But it is frustrating to have

everything attached to STRINGS!

Holly

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