2 questions/ need for clarification

[Guest guest]

#1- would like some further explanation of the the terms

'high-functioning' vs. 'low-functioning.

#2-have seen some references to 'alters'. I know that

sometimes bpd coexists with Dissociative Identity

Disorder/MPD, however, are people here saying that these alters

can be present with bpd alone? Thanks.

[Guest guest]

so what is SWOE? is there a list of all the abreviations that are

commonly used on this list?

** , Stinky's caretaker**

" The last of the human freedoms is to choose one's attitude in any

given set of circumstances " V. l

[Guest guest]

so what is SWOE? is there a list of all the abreviations that are

commonly used on this list?

** , Stinky's caretaker**

" The last of the human freedoms is to choose one's attitude in any

given set of circumstances " V. l

[Guest guest]

Thanks All again....

, your friend's description is a VERY close match to my Father's

wife-extremely high-functioning in public, especially work....extremely

low-functioning in private. This has caused the confusion disbelief problems

others have described also. Very frustrating to say the least.

Yes, I have read Randi's great book, SWOE, altho it was probably 4 yrs

ago. Apparently, I have 'forgotten more than I now know!' I thought so

much of this book....I recommended it my therapist, and she now requires

all those living with bps to read it. It did send me down the right path.

The reason I asked this is because someone here referred to her as very

low-functioning....now I am clear. It seems also, that, another thing I have

heard about pd behavior is true...it often is an extreme version of what

others(nons) may do. Example: I am much more 'competent' and

comfortable in work and study (the inanimate) than I am in inter-personal

relationships, at least those that would be with a live-in partner. I am,

however (and known to be) a very good friend. My best friend is a man, 16

yrs my junior. Many think we are intimate, so much so that we no longer

bother trying to convince then otherwise. (so, I guess that proves I'm not

damaged beyone repair! ) Sometimes it feels that way, tho. My last

'relationship' was with a 'man' who I later found out was diagnosed ASPD.

More on that later if applicable.

And, yes, I'm pretty sure about the dissociating. What are the most

common 'dual-diagnoses' that go along with bpd?

-

[Guest guest]

Thanks All again....

, your friend's description is a VERY close match to my Father's

wife-extremely high-functioning in public, especially work....extremely

low-functioning in private. This has caused the confusion disbelief problems

others have described also. Very frustrating to say the least.

Yes, I have read Randi's great book, SWOE, altho it was probably 4 yrs

ago. Apparently, I have 'forgotten more than I now know!' I thought so

much of this book....I recommended it my therapist, and she now requires

all those living with bps to read it. It did send me down the right path.

The reason I asked this is because someone here referred to her as very

low-functioning....now I am clear. It seems also, that, another thing I have

heard about pd behavior is true...it often is an extreme version of what

others(nons) may do. Example: I am much more 'competent' and

comfortable in work and study (the inanimate) than I am in inter-personal

relationships, at least those that would be with a live-in partner. I am,

however (and known to be) a very good friend. My best friend is a man, 16

yrs my junior. Many think we are intimate, so much so that we no longer

bother trying to convince then otherwise. (so, I guess that proves I'm not

damaged beyone repair! ) Sometimes it feels that way, tho. My last

'relationship' was with a 'man' who I later found out was diagnosed ASPD.

More on that later if applicable.

And, yes, I'm pretty sure about the dissociating. What are the most

common 'dual-diagnoses' that go along with bpd?

-

[Guest guest]

Thanks All again....

, your friend's description is a VERY close match to my Father's

wife-extremely high-functioning in public, especially work....extremely

low-functioning in private. This has caused the confusion disbelief problems

others have described also. Very frustrating to say the least.

Yes, I have read Randi's great book, SWOE, altho it was probably 4 yrs

ago. Apparently, I have 'forgotten more than I now know!' I thought so

much of this book....I recommended it my therapist, and she now requires

all those living with bps to read it. It did send me down the right path.

The reason I asked this is because someone here referred to her as very

low-functioning....now I am clear. It seems also, that, another thing I have

heard about pd behavior is true...it often is an extreme version of what

others(nons) may do. Example: I am much more 'competent' and

comfortable in work and study (the inanimate) than I am in inter-personal

relationships, at least those that would be with a live-in partner. I am,

however (and known to be) a very good friend. My best friend is a man, 16

yrs my junior. Many think we are intimate, so much so that we no longer

bother trying to convince then otherwise. (so, I guess that proves I'm not

damaged beyone repair! ) Sometimes it feels that way, tho. My last

'relationship' was with a 'man' who I later found out was diagnosed ASPD.

More on that later if applicable.

And, yes, I'm pretty sure about the dissociating. What are the most

common 'dual-diagnoses' that go along with bpd?

-

[Guest guest]

Oh yeah, would the real person please stand up!!!!...my friend joined our

Church and her performance there was unbelievable except I know you will

believe...warmth, love, gentle caring...I had people telling me how

wonderful she was...and telling her that...meanwhile, in her other world,

she was terrorizing the old lady she boarded with, as only an out of

control, enraged borderline can inflict terror...this poor woman finally

phoned me and begged me to help...I did not want to report my friend to the

authorities so, instead I phoned the woman's doctor and let him know he

needed to check in on her...her doctor did the reporting...of course, the

authorities did not take action and a couple of weeks later I got another

call from one of the ladies friends again begging me to go over and

intervene...apparently my girlfriend was literally tearing up the house and

throwing stuff out of drawers (the friend had taken a threatening letter she

had written and she was looking for it)...again, I refused because I knew

there would be nothing I could do if I did go over and I was still hoping to

stay out of the picture so that I might be able to get her the help she

needed when she cooled down...that's when the old ladies friend called the

police...so here I was, knowing all this was going on and then watching her

play the angel in church...ah, the land of Oz

re: 2 questions/ need for clarification

> wrote:

>

> <<

> , your friend's description is a VERY close match to my Father's

> wife-extremely high-functioning in public, especially work....extremely

> low-functioning in private. This has caused the confusion disbelief

problems

> others have described also. Very frustrating to say the least.

> >>

>

>

> Hi ,

>

> BPDs are like chameleons -- they act like whomever they're with.

>

> Think of the BPD as an actor/actress. Because of their very tiny and/or

> fragmented Self, they wear a different 'mask' for each person they meet in

> public. But, the mask gets tooooo heavy and they drop it behind the closed

> doors of Home Sweet Home.

>

> So, we KOs got to see behind the mask -- ie, we got to see our own " Mommy,

> Dearest " .

>

> Cheers,

>

> Edith

>

>

>

> To get off the list, send a blank message to

ModOasis-unsubscribe . Send questions & concerns to

ModOasis-owner . " Stop Waking on Eggshells, " a primer for

non-BPs can be ordered via 1-888-35-SHELL (). For the table of

contents, see http://www.BPDCentral.com

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Oh yeah, would the real person please stand up!!!!...my friend joined our

Church and her performance there was unbelievable except I know you will

believe...warmth, love, gentle caring...I had people telling me how

wonderful she was...and telling her that...meanwhile, in her other world,

she was terrorizing the old lady she boarded with, as only an out of

control, enraged borderline can inflict terror...this poor woman finally

phoned me and begged me to help...I did not want to report my friend to the

authorities so, instead I phoned the woman's doctor and let him know he

needed to check in on her...her doctor did the reporting...of course, the

authorities did not take action and a couple of weeks later I got another

call from one of the ladies friends again begging me to go over and

intervene...apparently my girlfriend was literally tearing up the house and

throwing stuff out of drawers (the friend had taken a threatening letter she

had written and she was looking for it)...again, I refused because I knew

there would be nothing I could do if I did go over and I was still hoping to

stay out of the picture so that I might be able to get her the help she

needed when she cooled down...that's when the old ladies friend called the

police...so here I was, knowing all this was going on and then watching her

play the angel in church...ah, the land of Oz

re: 2 questions/ need for clarification

> wrote:

>

> <<

> , your friend's description is a VERY close match to my Father's

> wife-extremely high-functioning in public, especially work....extremely

> low-functioning in private. This has caused the confusion disbelief

problems

> others have described also. Very frustrating to say the least.

> >>

>

>

> Hi ,

>

> BPDs are like chameleons -- they act like whomever they're with.

>

> Think of the BPD as an actor/actress. Because of their very tiny and/or

> fragmented Self, they wear a different 'mask' for each person they meet in

> public. But, the mask gets tooooo heavy and they drop it behind the closed

> doors of Home Sweet Home.

>

> So, we KOs got to see behind the mask -- ie, we got to see our own " Mommy,

> Dearest " .

>

> Cheers,

>

> Edith

>

>

>

> To get off the list, send a blank message to

ModOasis-unsubscribe . Send questions & concerns to

ModOasis-owner . " Stop Waking on Eggshells, " a primer for

non-BPs can be ordered via 1-888-35-SHELL (). For the table of

contents, see http://www.BPDCentral.com

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

This was one of the " crazy making " realities of my childhood.

Nada could put on a smile on to meet the public. So easily. I

would stand there wondering....maybe she is not mad after all...

then she would get home and IT would start....

Kathleen

>

> Hi ,

>

> BPDs are like chameleons -- they act like whomever they're

with.

>

> Think of the BPD as an actor/actress. Because of their very tiny

and/or

> fragmented Self, they wear a different 'mask' for each person

they meet in

> public. But, the mask gets tooooo heavy and they drop it behind

the closed

> doors of Home Sweet Home.

>

> So, we KOs got to see behind the mask -- ie, we got to see our

own " Mommy,

> Dearest " .

>

> Cheers,

>

> Edith

[Guest guest]

This was one of the " crazy making " realities of my childhood.

Nada could put on a smile on to meet the public. So easily. I

would stand there wondering....maybe she is not mad after all...

then she would get home and IT would start....

Kathleen

>

> Hi ,

>

> BPDs are like chameleons -- they act like whomever they're

with.

>

> Think of the BPD as an actor/actress. Because of their very tiny

and/or

> fragmented Self, they wear a different 'mask' for each person

they meet in

> public. But, the mask gets tooooo heavy and they drop it behind

the closed

> doors of Home Sweet Home.

>

> So, we KOs got to see behind the mask -- ie, we got to see our

own " Mommy,

> Dearest " .

>

> Cheers,

>

> Edith