RE: Re: Body Hair removal & skin picking

[Guest guest]

L. Sherwood wrote:

> I DO NOT want Lili to leave the list because of

> me or any other poster. I did not mean to

> offend anyone.

In my original mail I did not tell you that you

were wrong, I only said that what I read made me

feel sad, and then I asked many questions. I

asked, " I'm wondering why parents insist on

shaving them anyway? If the hair does not offend

her, and shaving does offend her, then why must

she be shaved? " . I did not mean to say that you

were bad for shaving her. I only asked questions

so that you might clarify and help me understand.

If you had just said " I shave her because she has

B.O. if I do not, and she is not really offended

by shaving " , I could have understood that, and not

felt sad anymore, because you are only helping her

to be clean, which is a good thing.

But then you said " I think YOU are taking this

entirely out of context. You can voice your

opinion, I have no problem with that, but

personally I DO NOT tell someone WHAT I THINK or

FEEL THEY SHOULD DO. "

And that felt like you were shouting at me, and

saying that I was wrong to ask questions about the

situation. Not to mention, you also took what I

said wrongly, and you were telling me what you

thought or felt that I should do- which is

**exactly** what you were angry at me for doing,

so that was very confusing for me. Why is it wrong

for me to tell you what I think or feel you should

do, but it is not wrong for you to tell me what

you think or feel I should do?

This situation made me cry, not because I was

angry at you, , but because I felt like you

did not understand my intentions and thought I was

attacking you, and it hurts me when I try to reach

out to gain better understanding, and people

misunderstand me. And to me it is easier to go

away when I am hurt, because when I try to

explain, I always seem to make things worse.

I also want to say that you used many CAPITAL

LETTERS in your post to me and it felt very much

like you were SHOUTING AT ME- this is a normal

part of Internet etiquette, when someone uses many

capital letters, it is thought of as shouting.

I hope this clarifies the situation, but I am

still afraid that I have only made things worse.

--

Lili in the Republic of Ireland

Momma to Saoirse (Feb 9 03) and Neil (Nov 10 94)

http://blog.lilirose.net

[Guest guest]

Lili,

I did not mean to upset you. I believe we both misunderstood each other.

I did not want to hurt you, I am not a mean person by nature. I am

sorry, this should have never happened. I was angry, and I felt that you

were implying that I was doing something to against her will, and

harming her.

Please Lili you did not make this worse, accept my apologies.

And again, do not leave this list. You will disappoint many people who

value your opinions, and we do not want that.

Re: Re: Body Hair removal & skin picking

>

> L. Sherwood wrote:

>

> > I DO NOT want Lili to leave the list because of

> > me or any other poster. I did not mean to

> > offend anyone.

>

> In my original mail I did not tell you that you

> were wrong, I only said that what I read made me

> feel sad, and then I asked many questions. I

> asked, " I'm wondering why parents insist on

> shaving them anyway? If the hair does not offend

> her, and shaving does offend her, then why must

> she be shaved? " . I did not mean to say that you

> were bad for shaving her. I only asked questions

> so that you might clarify and help me understand.

> If you had just said " I shave her because she has

> B.O. if I do not, and she is not really offended

> by shaving " , I could have understood that, and not

> felt sad anymore, because you are only helping her

> to be clean, which is a good thing.

>

> But then you said " I think YOU are taking this

> entirely out of context. You can voice your

> opinion, I have no problem with that, but

> personally I DO NOT tell someone WHAT I THINK or

> FEEL THEY SHOULD DO. "

> And that felt like you were shouting at me, and

> saying that I was wrong to ask questions about the

> situation. Not to mention, you also took what I

> said wrongly, and you were telling me what you

> thought or felt that I should do- which is

> **exactly** what you were angry at me for doing,

> so that was very confusing for me. Why is it wrong

> for me to tell you what I think or feel you should

> do, but it is not wrong for you to tell me what

> you think or feel I should do?

>

> This situation made me cry, not because I was

> angry at you, , but because I felt like you

> did not understand my intentions and thought I was

> attacking you, and it hurts me when I try to reach

> out to gain better understanding, and people

> misunderstand me. And to me it is easier to go

> away when I am hurt, because when I try to

> explain, I always seem to make things worse.

>

> I also want to say that you used many CAPITAL

> LETTERS in your post to me and it felt very much

> like you were SHOUTING AT ME- this is a normal

> part of Internet etiquette, when someone uses many

> capital letters, it is thought of as shouting.

>

> I hope this clarifies the situation, but I am

> still afraid that I have only made things worse.

> --

> Lili in the Republic of Ireland

> Momma to Saoirse (Feb 9 03) and Neil (Nov 10 94)

> http://blog.lilirose.net

>

>

>

> Autism_in_Girls-subscribe

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>

[Guest guest]

Can we all move on now?

Diane

Re: Re: Body Hair removal & skin picking

Lili,

I did not mean to upset you. I believe we both misunderstood each other.

I did not want to hurt you, I am not a mean person by nature. I am

sorry, this should have never happened. I was angry, and I felt that you

were implying that I was doing something to against her will, and

harming her.

Please Lili you did not make this worse, accept my apologies.

And again, do not leave this list. You will disappoint many people who

value your opinions, and we do not want that.

Re: Re: Body Hair removal & skin picking

>

> L. Sherwood wrote:

>

> > I DO NOT want Lili to leave the list because of

> > me or any other poster. I did not mean to

> > offend anyone.

>

> In my original mail I did not tell you that you

> were wrong, I only said that what I read made me

> feel sad, and then I asked many questions. I

> asked, " I'm wondering why parents insist on

> shaving them anyway? If the hair does not offend

> her, and shaving does offend her, then why must

> she be shaved? " . I did not mean to say that you

> were bad for shaving her. I only asked questions

> so that you might clarify and help me understand.

> If you had just said " I shave her because she has

> B.O. if I do not, and she is not really offended

> by shaving " , I could have understood that, and not

> felt sad anymore, because you are only helping her

> to be clean, which is a good thing.

>

> But then you said " I think YOU are taking this

> entirely out of context. You can voice your

> opinion, I have no problem with that, but

> personally I DO NOT tell someone WHAT I THINK or

> FEEL THEY SHOULD DO. "

> And that felt like you were shouting at me, and

> saying that I was wrong to ask questions about the

> situation. Not to mention, you also took what I

> said wrongly, and you were telling me what you

> thought or felt that I should do- which is

> **exactly** what you were angry at me for doing,

> so that was very confusing for me. Why is it wrong

> for me to tell you what I think or feel you should

> do, but it is not wrong for you to tell me what

> you think or feel I should do?

>

> This situation made me cry, not because I was

> angry at you, , but because I felt like you

> did not understand my intentions and thought I was

> attacking you, and it hurts me when I try to reach

> out to gain better understanding, and people

> misunderstand me. And to me it is easier to go

> away when I am hurt, because when I try to

> explain, I always seem to make things worse.

>

> I also want to say that you used many CAPITAL

> LETTERS in your post to me and it felt very much

> like you were SHOUTING AT ME- this is a normal

> part of Internet etiquette, when someone uses many

> capital letters, it is thought of as shouting.

>

> I hope this clarifies the situation, but I am

> still afraid that I have only made things worse.

> --

> Lili in the Republic of Ireland

> Momma to Saoirse (Feb 9 03) and Neil (Nov 10 94)

> http://blog.lilirose.net

>

>

>

> Autism_in_Girls-subscribe

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>

[Guest guest]

Can we all move on now?

Diane

Re: Re: Body Hair removal & skin picking

Lili,

I did not mean to upset you. I believe we both misunderstood each other.

I did not want to hurt you, I am not a mean person by nature. I am

sorry, this should have never happened. I was angry, and I felt that you

were implying that I was doing something to against her will, and

harming her.

Please Lili you did not make this worse, accept my apologies.

And again, do not leave this list. You will disappoint many people who

value your opinions, and we do not want that.

Re: Re: Body Hair removal & skin picking

>

> L. Sherwood wrote:

>

> > I DO NOT want Lili to leave the list because of

> > me or any other poster. I did not mean to

> > offend anyone.

>

> In my original mail I did not tell you that you

> were wrong, I only said that what I read made me

> feel sad, and then I asked many questions. I

> asked, " I'm wondering why parents insist on

> shaving them anyway? If the hair does not offend

> her, and shaving does offend her, then why must

> she be shaved? " . I did not mean to say that you

> were bad for shaving her. I only asked questions

> so that you might clarify and help me understand.

> If you had just said " I shave her because she has

> B.O. if I do not, and she is not really offended

> by shaving " , I could have understood that, and not

> felt sad anymore, because you are only helping her

> to be clean, which is a good thing.

>

> But then you said " I think YOU are taking this

> entirely out of context. You can voice your

> opinion, I have no problem with that, but

> personally I DO NOT tell someone WHAT I THINK or

> FEEL THEY SHOULD DO. "

> And that felt like you were shouting at me, and

> saying that I was wrong to ask questions about the

> situation. Not to mention, you also took what I

> said wrongly, and you were telling me what you

> thought or felt that I should do- which is

> **exactly** what you were angry at me for doing,

> so that was very confusing for me. Why is it wrong

> for me to tell you what I think or feel you should

> do, but it is not wrong for you to tell me what

> you think or feel I should do?

>

> This situation made me cry, not because I was

> angry at you, , but because I felt like you

> did not understand my intentions and thought I was

> attacking you, and it hurts me when I try to reach

> out to gain better understanding, and people

> misunderstand me. And to me it is easier to go

> away when I am hurt, because when I try to

> explain, I always seem to make things worse.

>

> I also want to say that you used many CAPITAL

> LETTERS in your post to me and it felt very much

> like you were SHOUTING AT ME- this is a normal

> part of Internet etiquette, when someone uses many

> capital letters, it is thought of as shouting.

>

> I hope this clarifies the situation, but I am

> still afraid that I have only made things worse.

> --

> Lili in the Republic of Ireland

> Momma to Saoirse (Feb 9 03) and Neil (Nov 10 94)

> http://blog.lilirose.net

>

>

>

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>

[Guest guest]

ds2400 wrote:

> Can we all move on now?

I was planning to move on, as I thought the

situation had been fully dealt with at this point-

but now I am wondering why you asked this question.

Is it wrong to discuss misunderstandings between

NT parents and AS parents? If so, please let me

know, because I felt like this was a very

productive line of discussion. I apologize if I

was mistaken.

--

Lili in the Republic of Ireland

Momma to Saoirse (Feb 9 03) and Neil (Nov 10 94)

http://blog.lilirose.net

[Guest guest]

I certainly meant no harm. I just assumed emails were crossing back and

forth and that all had already been dealt with. I am in several groups and

get many emails each day...It just seemed the apologies kept vollying back

and forth.

Once again, I didn't mean to get anyone upset. Quite the contrary, I felt

there was good sharing dialogue going on.

Diane

Re: Re: Body Hair removal & skin picking

ds2400 wrote:

> Can we all move on now?

I was planning to move on, as I thought the

situation had been fully dealt with at this point-

but now I am wondering why you asked this question.

Is it wrong to discuss misunderstandings between

NT parents and AS parents? If so, please let me

know, because I felt like this was a very

productive line of discussion. I apologize if I

was mistaken.

--

Lili in the Republic of Ireland

Momma to Saoirse (Feb 9 03) and Neil (Nov 10 94)

http://blog.lilirose.net

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