Re: ambulance

[Guest guest]

Hi ,

No, I'm not a doctor, but I am a nurse. I have suffered from asthma for about three years, which has steadily been getting worse, so I do have a perspective from both sides of the fence. I do have medical knowledge, though not as much as a doctor (though depends on the doctor!). I do think, however, from what I have read on the list, that a lot of people are well-informed about their condition and how to cope with it, so not too sure how much help I can be. But any help I can give, I will try my best.

Saul

Re: ambulance

Hi Saul,I'm new here and you said in your professional opinion. Are you a Doctor? Not trying to be smart, just think it is great to maybe have someone on the list with medical knowledge.> Hi ,> > From the symptoms and information you gave me about your asthma attack, in > my professional opinion, it does suggest to me that it would warrant an > ambulance ride, and at the least an ER visit. I am worried that you have had > worse attacks then this though, and hope that things do improve for you.> > It is a concern that you have to pay for each visit, it doesn't work this > way in the UK. It is true that nebuliser treatments would have been offered, > but they would have been able to monitor you closely for signs of > deterioration and signs of respiratory failure. You did mention in your > first email that people thought you were unconscious or nearly unconscious. > You may not have been able to do nebuliser treatments yourself if you did > lose consciousness.> > It's obviously not the greatest comparison, but the majority of deaths from > heart attacks are caused by people ignoring the symptoms, until it becomes > too late, which is why there is a lot of education about it in this country > at the moment.> > I hope that you manage to stay relatively well until April, when you can get > to see you pulmonary specialist.> > Saul

[Guest guest]

Saul,

I think it really pays to be as well informed as you can be about

your condition. I know I'll welcome any advise.

My family Doctor who I went to first, said it was all in my head and

gave me tranquilzers(which I didn't take after the first one that

made it worse)and Atrovent which I am allergic to(it has peanut oil)

and told me to stop worrying about breathing. Ya, right. He

finally sent me to a cardiologist because my blood pressure was low,

the cardiologist couldn't find anything wrong with my heart, did an

echocardiogram to be sure. He said he was pretty sure it was asthma

and sent me to a pulmnoligist who said it was definately asthma and

allergies. My IgE was 1247 which is really high. Definately not in

my head. I wish I'd known more about it when it first started, I

definately would have insisted on seeing another Dr sooner.

My pulmo Dr is great, I really think I am starting to see some

improvement. She started me on Xoliar injections because my asthma

did not respond to steriods well and I have to have such high doses

to be able to breathe. Hopefully soon I will be off the pred. and

the side effects will start to subside.

- asthma , " saulsclubs " <saulsclubs@h...> wrote:

> Hi ,

>

> No, I'm not a doctor, but I am a nurse. I have suffered from

asthma for about three years, which has steadily been getting worse,

so I do have a perspective from both sides of the fence. I do have

medical knowledge, though not as much as a doctor (though depends on

the doctor!). I do think, however, from what I have read on the

list, that a lot of people are well-informed about their condition

and how to cope with it, so not too sure how much help I can be. But

any help I can give, I will try my best.

>

> Saul

> Re: ambulance

>

>

>

> Hi Saul,

>

> I'm new here and you said in your professional opinion. Are you

a

> Doctor? Not trying to be smart, just think it is great to maybe

> have someone on the list with medical knowledge.

>

>

> --

> - In asthma , " Saul " <saulsclubs@h...>

> wrote:

> > Hi ,

> >

> > From the symptoms and information you gave me about your

asthma

> attack, in

> > my professional opinion, it does suggest to me that it would

> warrant an

> > ambulance ride, and at the least an ER visit. I am worried

that

> you have had

> > worse attacks then this though, and hope that things do

improve

> for you.

> >

> > It is a concern that you have to pay for each visit, it

doesn't

> work this

> > way in the UK. It is true that nebuliser treatments would have

> been offered,

> > but they would have been able to monitor you closely for signs

of

> > deterioration and signs of respiratory failure. You did

mention in

> your

> > first email that people thought you were unconscious or nearly

> unconscious.

> > You may not have been able to do nebuliser treatments yourself

if

> you did

> > lose consciousness.

> >

> > It's obviously not the greatest comparison, but the majority

of

> deaths from

> > heart attacks are caused by people ignoring the symptoms,

until it

> becomes

> > too late, which is why there is a lot of education about it in

> this country

> > at the moment.

> >

> > I hope that you manage to stay relatively well until April,

when

> you can get

> > to see you pulmonary specialist.

> >

> > Saul

>

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Saul,

I think it really pays to be as well informed as you can be about

your condition. I know I'll welcome any advise.

My family Doctor who I went to first, said it was all in my head and

gave me tranquilzers(which I didn't take after the first one that

made it worse)and Atrovent which I am allergic to(it has peanut oil)

and told me to stop worrying about breathing. Ya, right. He

finally sent me to a cardiologist because my blood pressure was low,

the cardiologist couldn't find anything wrong with my heart, did an

echocardiogram to be sure. He said he was pretty sure it was asthma

and sent me to a pulmnoligist who said it was definately asthma and

allergies. My IgE was 1247 which is really high. Definately not in

my head. I wish I'd known more about it when it first started, I

definately would have insisted on seeing another Dr sooner.

My pulmo Dr is great, I really think I am starting to see some

improvement. She started me on Xoliar injections because my asthma

did not respond to steriods well and I have to have such high doses

to be able to breathe. Hopefully soon I will be off the pred. and

the side effects will start to subside.

- asthma , " saulsclubs " <saulsclubs@h...> wrote:

> Hi ,

>

> No, I'm not a doctor, but I am a nurse. I have suffered from

asthma for about three years, which has steadily been getting worse,

so I do have a perspective from both sides of the fence. I do have

medical knowledge, though not as much as a doctor (though depends on

the doctor!). I do think, however, from what I have read on the

list, that a lot of people are well-informed about their condition

and how to cope with it, so not too sure how much help I can be. But

any help I can give, I will try my best.

>

> Saul

> Re: ambulance

>

>

>

> Hi Saul,

>

> I'm new here and you said in your professional opinion. Are you

a

> Doctor? Not trying to be smart, just think it is great to maybe

> have someone on the list with medical knowledge.

>

>

> --

> - In asthma , " Saul " <saulsclubs@h...>

> wrote:

> > Hi ,

> >

> > From the symptoms and information you gave me about your

asthma

> attack, in

> > my professional opinion, it does suggest to me that it would

> warrant an

> > ambulance ride, and at the least an ER visit. I am worried

that

> you have had

> > worse attacks then this though, and hope that things do

improve

> for you.

> >

> > It is a concern that you have to pay for each visit, it

doesn't

> work this

> > way in the UK. It is true that nebuliser treatments would have

> been offered,

> > but they would have been able to monitor you closely for signs

of

> > deterioration and signs of respiratory failure. You did

mention in

> your

> > first email that people thought you were unconscious or nearly

> unconscious.

> > You may not have been able to do nebuliser treatments yourself

if

> you did

> > lose consciousness.

> >

> > It's obviously not the greatest comparison, but the majority

of

> deaths from

> > heart attacks are caused by people ignoring the symptoms,

until it

> becomes

> > too late, which is why there is a lot of education about it in

> this country

> > at the moment.

> >

> > I hope that you manage to stay relatively well until April,

when

> you can get

> > to see you pulmonary specialist.

> >

> > Saul

>

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Hi ,

I do get worried about doctors, especially those where patients have primary contact. Asthma is very easy to diagnose, from symptoms and from peak flow radings, even before they do a lung test. It's not, unfortunately, an untypical response from a doctor.

Glad you get on with your new doctor, and hope your side effects decrease over time.

Saul

- asthma , "saulsclubs" <saulsclubs@h...> wrote:> Hi ,> > No, I'm not a doctor, but I am a nurse. I have suffered from asthma for about three years, which has steadily been getting worse, so I do have a perspective from both sides of the fence. I do have medical knowledge, though not as much as a doctor (though depends on the doctor!). I do think, however, from what I have read on the list, that a lot of people are well-informed about their condition and how to cope with it, so not too sure how much help I can be. But any help I can give, I will try my best.> > Saul> Re: ambulance> > > > Hi Saul,> > I'm new here and you said in your professional opinion. Are you a > Doctor? Not trying to be smart, just think it is great to maybe > have someone on the list with medical knowledge.> > > --> - In asthma , "Saul " <saulsclubs@h...> > wrote:> > Hi ,> > > > From the symptoms and information you gave me about your asthma > attack, in > > my professional opinion, it does suggest to me that it would > warrant an > > ambulance ride, and at the least an ER visit. I am worried that > you have had > > worse attacks then this though, and hope that things do improve > for you.> > > > It is a concern that you have to pay for each visit, it doesn't > work this > > way in the UK. It is true that nebuliser treatments would have > been offered, > > but they would have been able to monitor you closely for signs of > > deterioration and signs of respiratory failure. You did mention in > your > > first email that people thought you were unconscious or nearly > unconscious. > > You may not have been able to do nebuliser treatments yourself if > you did > > lose consciousness.> > > > It's obviously not the greatest comparison, but the majority of > deaths from > > heart attacks are caused by people ignoring the symptoms, until it > becomes > > too late, which is why there is a lot of education about it in > this country > > at the moment.> > > > I hope that you manage to stay relatively well until April, when > you can get > > to see you pulmonary specialist.> > > > Saul> > > > >

[Guest guest]

Hi ,

I do get worried about doctors, especially those where patients have primary contact. Asthma is very easy to diagnose, from symptoms and from peak flow radings, even before they do a lung test. It's not, unfortunately, an untypical response from a doctor.

Glad you get on with your new doctor, and hope your side effects decrease over time.

Saul

- asthma , "saulsclubs" <saulsclubs@h...> wrote:> Hi ,> > No, I'm not a doctor, but I am a nurse. I have suffered from asthma for about three years, which has steadily been getting worse, so I do have a perspective from both sides of the fence. I do have medical knowledge, though not as much as a doctor (though depends on the doctor!). I do think, however, from what I have read on the list, that a lot of people are well-informed about their condition and how to cope with it, so not too sure how much help I can be. But any help I can give, I will try my best.> > Saul> Re: ambulance> > > > Hi Saul,> > I'm new here and you said in your professional opinion. Are you a > Doctor? Not trying to be smart, just think it is great to maybe > have someone on the list with medical knowledge.> > > --> - In asthma , "Saul " <saulsclubs@h...> > wrote:> > Hi ,> > > > From the symptoms and information you gave me about your asthma > attack, in > > my professional opinion, it does suggest to me that it would > warrant an > > ambulance ride, and at the least an ER visit. I am worried that > you have had > > worse attacks then this though, and hope that things do improve > for you.> > > > It is a concern that you have to pay for each visit, it doesn't > work this > > way in the UK. It is true that nebuliser treatments would have > been offered, > > but they would have been able to monitor you closely for signs of > > deterioration and signs of respiratory failure. You did mention in > your > > first email that people thought you were unconscious or nearly > unconscious. > > You may not have been able to do nebuliser treatments yourself if > you did > > lose consciousness.> > > > It's obviously not the greatest comparison, but the majority of > deaths from > > heart attacks are caused by people ignoring the symptoms, until it > becomes > > too late, which is why there is a lot of education about it in > this country > > at the moment.> > > > I hope that you manage to stay relatively well until April, when > you can get > > to see you pulmonary specialist.> > > > Saul> > > > >

[Guest guest]

Hi ,

I do get worried about doctors, especially those where patients have primary contact. Asthma is very easy to diagnose, from symptoms and from peak flow radings, even before they do a lung test. It's not, unfortunately, an untypical response from a doctor.

Glad you get on with your new doctor, and hope your side effects decrease over time.

Saul

- asthma , "saulsclubs" <saulsclubs@h...> wrote:> Hi ,> > No, I'm not a doctor, but I am a nurse. I have suffered from asthma for about three years, which has steadily been getting worse, so I do have a perspective from both sides of the fence. I do have medical knowledge, though not as much as a doctor (though depends on the doctor!). I do think, however, from what I have read on the list, that a lot of people are well-informed about their condition and how to cope with it, so not too sure how much help I can be. But any help I can give, I will try my best.> > Saul> Re: ambulance> > > > Hi Saul,> > I'm new here and you said in your professional opinion. Are you a > Doctor? Not trying to be smart, just think it is great to maybe > have someone on the list with medical knowledge.> > > --> - In asthma , "Saul " <saulsclubs@h...> > wrote:> > Hi ,> > > > From the symptoms and information you gave me about your asthma > attack, in > > my professional opinion, it does suggest to me that it would > warrant an > > ambulance ride, and at the least an ER visit. I am worried that > you have had > > worse attacks then this though, and hope that things do improve > for you.> > > > It is a concern that you have to pay for each visit, it doesn't > work this > > way in the UK. It is true that nebuliser treatments would have > been offered, > > but they would have been able to monitor you closely for signs of > > deterioration and signs of respiratory failure. You did mention in > your > > first email that people thought you were unconscious or nearly > unconscious. > > You may not have been able to do nebuliser treatments yourself if > you did > > lose consciousness.> > > > It's obviously not the greatest comparison, but the majority of > deaths from > > heart attacks are caused by people ignoring the symptoms, until it > becomes > > too late, which is why there is a lot of education about it in > this country > > at the moment.> > > > I hope that you manage to stay relatively well until April, when > you can get > > to see you pulmonary specialist.> > > > Saul> > > > >

[Guest guest]

It's bad to get that out of control with asthma . Even when

you think you can handle it. I used to be like that.

However, In 1995 I went into full cardiac and respiratory arrest

because of an asthma attack and I never thought it ever would have

got that far. Be careful and don't let your guard down. When the

paramedics got to me I wasn't breathing and my heart had stopped.

They began CPR and worked on me on our front porch. My story is

online at http://www.AsthmaStory.com. The site is devoted to the

research of Dr. Hahn and others relating asthma to bacteria.

I went from having SEVERE asthma for many years to now being

completely cured. Jim

>

> Tuesday night I was sitting in a college class and was having

trouble breathing. I always have trouble so I wasn't too worried

about it, but everyone else started freaking out. They say that I

was on the verge of passing out, although I do not remember that.

The professor called 911 and the paramedics called. I told them that

I was fine and that I legally had the right to decline treatment.

They said that since my pulse ox. was under 70 on 100% oxygen that I

was not in the right mind to make my own medical decisions and that

if I did not go willingly they would handcuff me and take me anyway.

I do not think that the whole thing warranted an ambulance ride. I

think that if they thought I had a problem they should have at least

let me go to the Er by private car. Does anyone know the standard on

this? My pulse ox. was 68% and my respiratory rate was 60 breaths

per minute. Did that consititute an emergency? I have always been

able to stop my attacks eventually without ever having to go

> to the hospital. That was not even close to my worst attack ever.

It is actually worse right now as I sit here typing this. I am so

frustrated by everything. Thanks for any answers.

>

>

> __________________________________________________

>

[Guest guest]

It's bad to get that out of control with asthma . Even when

you think you can handle it. I used to be like that.

However, In 1995 I went into full cardiac and respiratory arrest

because of an asthma attack and I never thought it ever would have

got that far. Be careful and don't let your guard down. When the

paramedics got to me I wasn't breathing and my heart had stopped.

They began CPR and worked on me on our front porch. My story is

online at http://www.AsthmaStory.com. The site is devoted to the

research of Dr. Hahn and others relating asthma to bacteria.

I went from having SEVERE asthma for many years to now being

completely cured. Jim

>

> Tuesday night I was sitting in a college class and was having

trouble breathing. I always have trouble so I wasn't too worried

about it, but everyone else started freaking out. They say that I

was on the verge of passing out, although I do not remember that.

The professor called 911 and the paramedics called. I told them that

I was fine and that I legally had the right to decline treatment.

They said that since my pulse ox. was under 70 on 100% oxygen that I

was not in the right mind to make my own medical decisions and that

if I did not go willingly they would handcuff me and take me anyway.

I do not think that the whole thing warranted an ambulance ride. I

think that if they thought I had a problem they should have at least

let me go to the Er by private car. Does anyone know the standard on

this? My pulse ox. was 68% and my respiratory rate was 60 breaths

per minute. Did that consititute an emergency? I have always been

able to stop my attacks eventually without ever having to go

> to the hospital. That was not even close to my worst attack ever.

It is actually worse right now as I sit here typing this. I am so

frustrated by everything. Thanks for any answers.

>

>

> __________________________________________________

>

[Guest guest]

It's bad to get that out of control with asthma . Even when

you think you can handle it. I used to be like that.

However, In 1995 I went into full cardiac and respiratory arrest

because of an asthma attack and I never thought it ever would have

got that far. Be careful and don't let your guard down. When the

paramedics got to me I wasn't breathing and my heart had stopped.

They began CPR and worked on me on our front porch. My story is

online at http://www.AsthmaStory.com. The site is devoted to the

research of Dr. Hahn and others relating asthma to bacteria.

I went from having SEVERE asthma for many years to now being

completely cured. Jim

>

> Tuesday night I was sitting in a college class and was having

trouble breathing. I always have trouble so I wasn't too worried

about it, but everyone else started freaking out. They say that I

was on the verge of passing out, although I do not remember that.

The professor called 911 and the paramedics called. I told them that

I was fine and that I legally had the right to decline treatment.

They said that since my pulse ox. was under 70 on 100% oxygen that I

was not in the right mind to make my own medical decisions and that

if I did not go willingly they would handcuff me and take me anyway.

I do not think that the whole thing warranted an ambulance ride. I

think that if they thought I had a problem they should have at least

let me go to the Er by private car. Does anyone know the standard on

this? My pulse ox. was 68% and my respiratory rate was 60 breaths

per minute. Did that consititute an emergency? I have always been

able to stop my attacks eventually without ever having to go

> to the hospital. That was not even close to my worst attack ever.

It is actually worse right now as I sit here typing this. I am so

frustrated by everything. Thanks for any answers.

>

>

> __________________________________________________

>