Guest guest Posted December 10, 2004 Report Share Posted December 10, 2004 Tuesday night I was sitting in a college class and was having trouble breathing. I always have trouble so I wasn't too worried about it, but everyone else started freaking out. They say that I was on the verge of passing out, although I do not remember that. The professor called 911 and the paramedics called. I told them that I was fine and that I legally had the right to decline treatment. They said that since my pulse ox. was under 70 on 100% oxygen that I was not in the right mind to make my own medical decisions and that if I did not go willingly they would handcuff me and take me anyway. I do not think that the whole thing warranted an ambulance ride. I think that if they thought I had a problem they should have at least let me go to the Er by private car. Does anyone know the standard on this? My pulse ox. was 68% and my respiratory rate was 60 breaths per minute. Did that consititute an emergency? I have always been able to stop my attacks eventually without ever having to go to the hospital. That was not even close to my worst attack ever. It is actually worse right now as I sit here typing this. I am so frustrated by everything. Thanks for any answers. __________________________________________________ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 10, 2004 Report Share Posted December 10, 2004 Tuesday night I was sitting in a college class and was having trouble breathing. I always have trouble so I wasn't too worried about it, but everyone else started freaking out. They say that I was on the verge of passing out, although I do not remember that. The professor called 911 and the paramedics called. I told them that I was fine and that I legally had the right to decline treatment. They said that since my pulse ox. was under 70 on 100% oxygen that I was not in the right mind to make my own medical decisions and that if I did not go willingly they would handcuff me and take me anyway. I do not think that the whole thing warranted an ambulance ride. I think that if they thought I had a problem they should have at least let me go to the Er by private car. Does anyone know the standard on this? My pulse ox. was 68% and my respiratory rate was 60 breaths per minute. Did that consititute an emergency? I have always been able to stop my attacks eventually without ever having to go to the hospital. That was not even close to my worst attack ever. It is actually worse right now as I sit here typing this. I am so frustrated by everything. Thanks for any answers. __________________________________________________ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 10, 2004 Report Share Posted December 10, 2004 Hi , Your tutor was right. Are you sure you were put on 100% oxygen. The oxygen you breathe through normal air is about 24%, 5 litres of oxygen (which is standard) equates at about that. Having oxygen saturations of 70% on assisted oxygen is definetely worrying and is a life threatening situation. What did they say at the hospital? Saul __________________________________________________ Re: ambulance Tuesday night I was sitting in a college class and was having trouble breathing. I always have trouble so I wasn't too worried about it, but everyone else started freaking out. They say that I was on the verge of passing out, although I do not remember that. The professor called 911 and the paramedics called. I told them that I was fine and that I legally had the right to decline treatment. They said that since my pulse ox. was under 70 on 100% oxygen that I was not in the right mind to make my own medical decisions and that if I did not go willingly they would handcuff me and take me anyway. I do not think that the whole thing warranted an ambulance ride. I think that if they thought I had a problem they should have at least let me go to the Er by private car. Does anyone know the standard on this? My pulse ox. was 68% and my respiratory rate was 60 breaths per minute. Did that consititute an emergency? I have always been able to stop my attacks eventually without ever having to go to the hospital. That was not even close to my worst attack ever. It is actually worse right now as I sit here typing this. I am so frustrated by everything. Thanks for any answers. __________________________________________________ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 10, 2004 Report Share Posted December 10, 2004 Hi , Your tutor was right. Are you sure you were put on 100% oxygen. The oxygen you breathe through normal air is about 24%, 5 litres of oxygen (which is standard) equates at about that. Having oxygen saturations of 70% on assisted oxygen is definetely worrying and is a life threatening situation. What did they say at the hospital? Saul __________________________________________________ Re: ambulance Tuesday night I was sitting in a college class and was having trouble breathing. I always have trouble so I wasn't too worried about it, but everyone else started freaking out. They say that I was on the verge of passing out, although I do not remember that. The professor called 911 and the paramedics called. I told them that I was fine and that I legally had the right to decline treatment. They said that since my pulse ox. was under 70 on 100% oxygen that I was not in the right mind to make my own medical decisions and that if I did not go willingly they would handcuff me and take me anyway. I do not think that the whole thing warranted an ambulance ride. I think that if they thought I had a problem they should have at least let me go to the Er by private car. Does anyone know the standard on this? My pulse ox. was 68% and my respiratory rate was 60 breaths per minute. Did that consititute an emergency? I have always been able to stop my attacks eventually without ever having to go to the hospital. That was not even close to my worst attack ever. It is actually worse right now as I sit here typing this. I am so frustrated by everything. Thanks for any answers. __________________________________________________ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 10, 2004 Report Share Posted December 10, 2004 Hi , Your tutor was right. Are you sure you were put on 100% oxygen. The oxygen you breathe through normal air is about 24%, 5 litres of oxygen (which is standard) equates at about that. Having oxygen saturations of 70% on assisted oxygen is definetely worrying and is a life threatening situation. What did they say at the hospital? Saul __________________________________________________ Re: ambulance Tuesday night I was sitting in a college class and was having trouble breathing. I always have trouble so I wasn't too worried about it, but everyone else started freaking out. They say that I was on the verge of passing out, although I do not remember that. The professor called 911 and the paramedics called. I told them that I was fine and that I legally had the right to decline treatment. They said that since my pulse ox. was under 70 on 100% oxygen that I was not in the right mind to make my own medical decisions and that if I did not go willingly they would handcuff me and take me anyway. I do not think that the whole thing warranted an ambulance ride. I think that if they thought I had a problem they should have at least let me go to the Er by private car. Does anyone know the standard on this? My pulse ox. was 68% and my respiratory rate was 60 breaths per minute. Did that consititute an emergency? I have always been able to stop my attacks eventually without ever having to go to the hospital. That was not even close to my worst attack ever. It is actually worse right now as I sit here typing this. I am so frustrated by everything. Thanks for any answers. __________________________________________________ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 11, 2004 Report Share Posted December 11, 2004 When the paramedics were there they said 100% oxygen but now looking at the report it says 8 liters. At the hospital they wanted to admit me and said that the very severe oxygen was a concern. I told them that I did not want to be admited. They said they had to keep me for a few hours until I was stable. Finally after about 5 hours I was able to convince them that I needed to leave.I got a big lecture from the dr. and was told that I need to find a pulmonologist immediately. Thanks for your input on the situation. saulsclubs wrote: Hi , Your tutor was right. Are you sure you were put on 100% oxygen. The oxygen you breathe through normal air is about 24%, 5 litres of oxygen (which is standard) equates at about that. Having oxygen saturations of 70% on assisted oxygen is definetely worrying and is a life threatening situation. What did they say at the hospital? Saul __________________________________________________ Re: ambulance Tuesday night I was sitting in a college class and was having trouble breathing. I always have trouble so I wasn't too worried about it, but everyone else started freaking out. They say that I was on the verge of passing out, although I do not remember that. The professor called 911 and the paramedics called. I told them that I was fine and that I legally had the right to decline treatment. They said that since my pulse ox. was under 70 on 100% oxygen that I was not in the right mind to make my own medical decisions and that if I did not go willingly they would handcuff me and take me anyway. I do not think that the whole thing warranted an ambulance ride. I think that if they thought I had a problem they should have at least let me go to the Er by private car. Does anyone know the standard on this? My pulse ox. was 68% and my respiratory rate was 60 breaths per minute. Did that consititute an emergency? I have always been able to stop my attacks eventually without ever having to go to the hospital. That was not even close to my worst attack ever. It is actually worse right now as I sit here typing this. I am so frustrated by everything. Thanks for any answers. __________________________________________________ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 11, 2004 Report Share Posted December 11, 2004 When the paramedics were there they said 100% oxygen but now looking at the report it says 8 liters. At the hospital they wanted to admit me and said that the very severe oxygen was a concern. I told them that I did not want to be admited. They said they had to keep me for a few hours until I was stable. Finally after about 5 hours I was able to convince them that I needed to leave.I got a big lecture from the dr. and was told that I need to find a pulmonologist immediately. Thanks for your input on the situation. saulsclubs wrote: Hi , Your tutor was right. Are you sure you were put on 100% oxygen. The oxygen you breathe through normal air is about 24%, 5 litres of oxygen (which is standard) equates at about that. Having oxygen saturations of 70% on assisted oxygen is definetely worrying and is a life threatening situation. What did they say at the hospital? Saul __________________________________________________ Re: ambulance Tuesday night I was sitting in a college class and was having trouble breathing. I always have trouble so I wasn't too worried about it, but everyone else started freaking out. They say that I was on the verge of passing out, although I do not remember that. The professor called 911 and the paramedics called. I told them that I was fine and that I legally had the right to decline treatment. They said that since my pulse ox. was under 70 on 100% oxygen that I was not in the right mind to make my own medical decisions and that if I did not go willingly they would handcuff me and take me anyway. I do not think that the whole thing warranted an ambulance ride. I think that if they thought I had a problem they should have at least let me go to the Er by private car. Does anyone know the standard on this? My pulse ox. was 68% and my respiratory rate was 60 breaths per minute. Did that consititute an emergency? I have always been able to stop my attacks eventually without ever having to go to the hospital. That was not even close to my worst attack ever. It is actually worse right now as I sit here typing this. I am so frustrated by everything. Thanks for any answers. __________________________________________________ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 11, 2004 Report Share Posted December 11, 2004 When the paramedics were there they said 100% oxygen but now looking at the report it says 8 liters. At the hospital they wanted to admit me and said that the very severe oxygen was a concern. I told them that I did not want to be admited. They said they had to keep me for a few hours until I was stable. Finally after about 5 hours I was able to convince them that I needed to leave.I got a big lecture from the dr. and was told that I need to find a pulmonologist immediately. Thanks for your input on the situation. saulsclubs wrote: Hi , Your tutor was right. Are you sure you were put on 100% oxygen. The oxygen you breathe through normal air is about 24%, 5 litres of oxygen (which is standard) equates at about that. Having oxygen saturations of 70% on assisted oxygen is definetely worrying and is a life threatening situation. What did they say at the hospital? Saul __________________________________________________ Re: ambulance Tuesday night I was sitting in a college class and was having trouble breathing. I always have trouble so I wasn't too worried about it, but everyone else started freaking out. They say that I was on the verge of passing out, although I do not remember that. The professor called 911 and the paramedics called. I told them that I was fine and that I legally had the right to decline treatment. They said that since my pulse ox. was under 70 on 100% oxygen that I was not in the right mind to make my own medical decisions and that if I did not go willingly they would handcuff me and take me anyway. I do not think that the whole thing warranted an ambulance ride. I think that if they thought I had a problem they should have at least let me go to the Er by private car. Does anyone know the standard on this? My pulse ox. was 68% and my respiratory rate was 60 breaths per minute. Did that consititute an emergency? I have always been able to stop my attacks eventually without ever having to go to the hospital. That was not even close to my worst attack ever. It is actually worse right now as I sit here typing this. I am so frustrated by everything. Thanks for any answers. __________________________________________________ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 13, 2004 Report Share Posted December 13, 2004 Hi , 8 litres is about 40% oxygen, which is worrying that your oxygen saturations were a bit low. Why were you so desperate to leave the hospital? Saul > >Reply-To: asthma >To: asthma >Subject: Re: ambulance >Date: Sat, 11 Dec 2004 19:52:47 -0800 (PST) > >When the paramedics were there they said 100% oxygen but now looking at the >report it says 8 liters. At the hospital they wanted to admit me and said >that the very severe oxygen was a concern. I told them that I did not want >to be admited. They said they had to keep me for a few hours until I was >stable. Finally after about 5 hours I was able to convince them that I >needed to leave.I got a big lecture from the dr. and was told that I need >to find a pulmonologist immediately. Thanks for your input on the >situation. > > >saulsclubs wrote: > >Hi , > >Your tutor was right. > >Are you sure you were put on 100% oxygen. The oxygen you breathe through >normal air is about 24%, 5 litres of oxygen (which is standard) equates at >about that. Having oxygen saturations of 70% on assisted oxygen is >definetely worrying and is a life threatening situation. > >What did they say at the hospital? > > > >Saul > > >__________________________________________________ > > Re: ambulance > > > >Tuesday night I was sitting in a college class and was having trouble >breathing. I always have trouble so I wasn't too worried about it, but >everyone else started freaking out. They say that I was on the verge of >passing out, although I do not remember that. The professor called 911 and >the paramedics called. I told them that I was fine and that I legally had >the right to decline treatment. They said that since my pulse ox. was under >70 on 100% oxygen that I was not in the right mind to make my own medical >decisions and that if I did not go willingly they would handcuff me and >take me anyway. I do not think that the whole thing warranted an ambulance >ride. I think that if they thought I had a problem they should have at >least let me go to the Er by private car. Does anyone know the standard on >this? My pulse ox. was 68% and my respiratory rate was 60 breaths per >minute. Did that consititute an emergency? I have always been able to stop >my attacks eventually without ever having to go > to the hospital. That was not even close to my worst attack ever. It is >actually worse right now as I sit here typing this. I am so frustrated by >everything. Thanks for any answers. > > >__________________________________________________ > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 13, 2004 Report Share Posted December 13, 2004 Hi , 8 litres is about 40% oxygen, which is worrying that your oxygen saturations were a bit low. Why were you so desperate to leave the hospital? Saul > >Reply-To: asthma >To: asthma >Subject: Re: ambulance >Date: Sat, 11 Dec 2004 19:52:47 -0800 (PST) > >When the paramedics were there they said 100% oxygen but now looking at the >report it says 8 liters. At the hospital they wanted to admit me and said >that the very severe oxygen was a concern. I told them that I did not want >to be admited. They said they had to keep me for a few hours until I was >stable. Finally after about 5 hours I was able to convince them that I >needed to leave.I got a big lecture from the dr. and was told that I need >to find a pulmonologist immediately. Thanks for your input on the >situation. > > >saulsclubs wrote: > >Hi , > >Your tutor was right. > >Are you sure you were put on 100% oxygen. The oxygen you breathe through >normal air is about 24%, 5 litres of oxygen (which is standard) equates at >about that. Having oxygen saturations of 70% on assisted oxygen is >definetely worrying and is a life threatening situation. > >What did they say at the hospital? > > > >Saul > > >__________________________________________________ > > Re: ambulance > > > >Tuesday night I was sitting in a college class and was having trouble >breathing. I always have trouble so I wasn't too worried about it, but >everyone else started freaking out. They say that I was on the verge of >passing out, although I do not remember that. The professor called 911 and >the paramedics called. I told them that I was fine and that I legally had >the right to decline treatment. They said that since my pulse ox. was under >70 on 100% oxygen that I was not in the right mind to make my own medical >decisions and that if I did not go willingly they would handcuff me and >take me anyway. I do not think that the whole thing warranted an ambulance >ride. I think that if they thought I had a problem they should have at >least let me go to the Er by private car. Does anyone know the standard on >this? My pulse ox. was 68% and my respiratory rate was 60 breaths per >minute. Did that consititute an emergency? I have always been able to stop >my attacks eventually without ever having to go > to the hospital. That was not even close to my worst attack ever. It is >actually worse right now as I sit here typing this. I am so frustrated by >everything. Thanks for any answers. > > >__________________________________________________ > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 13, 2004 Report Share Posted December 13, 2004 Hi , 8 litres is about 40% oxygen, which is worrying that your oxygen saturations were a bit low. Why were you so desperate to leave the hospital? Saul > >Reply-To: asthma >To: asthma >Subject: Re: ambulance >Date: Sat, 11 Dec 2004 19:52:47 -0800 (PST) > >When the paramedics were there they said 100% oxygen but now looking at the >report it says 8 liters. At the hospital they wanted to admit me and said >that the very severe oxygen was a concern. I told them that I did not want >to be admited. They said they had to keep me for a few hours until I was >stable. Finally after about 5 hours I was able to convince them that I >needed to leave.I got a big lecture from the dr. and was told that I need >to find a pulmonologist immediately. Thanks for your input on the >situation. > > >saulsclubs wrote: > >Hi , > >Your tutor was right. > >Are you sure you were put on 100% oxygen. The oxygen you breathe through >normal air is about 24%, 5 litres of oxygen (which is standard) equates at >about that. Having oxygen saturations of 70% on assisted oxygen is >definetely worrying and is a life threatening situation. > >What did they say at the hospital? > > > >Saul > > >__________________________________________________ > > Re: ambulance > > > >Tuesday night I was sitting in a college class and was having trouble >breathing. I always have trouble so I wasn't too worried about it, but >everyone else started freaking out. They say that I was on the verge of >passing out, although I do not remember that. The professor called 911 and >the paramedics called. I told them that I was fine and that I legally had >the right to decline treatment. They said that since my pulse ox. was under >70 on 100% oxygen that I was not in the right mind to make my own medical >decisions and that if I did not go willingly they would handcuff me and >take me anyway. I do not think that the whole thing warranted an ambulance >ride. I think that if they thought I had a problem they should have at >least let me go to the Er by private car. Does anyone know the standard on >this? My pulse ox. was 68% and my respiratory rate was 60 breaths per >minute. Did that consititute an emergency? I have always been able to stop >my attacks eventually without ever having to go > to the hospital. That was not even close to my worst attack ever. It is >actually worse right now as I sit here typing this. I am so frustrated by >everything. Thanks for any answers. > > >__________________________________________________ > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 13, 2004 Report Share Posted December 13, 2004 Why do you refuse to let yourself be treated? It sounds like you were an ungrateful jerk to everyone who tried to help you. What is your problem? Do you want your asthma to kill you?? SueNY Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 13, 2004 Report Share Posted December 13, 2004 Why do you refuse to let yourself be treated? It sounds like you were an ungrateful jerk to everyone who tried to help you. What is your problem? Do you want your asthma to kill you?? SueNY Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 13, 2004 Report Share Posted December 13, 2004 Why do you refuse to let yourself be treated? It sounds like you were an ungrateful jerk to everyone who tried to help you. What is your problem? Do you want your asthma to kill you?? SueNY Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 13, 2004 Report Share Posted December 13, 2004 Hospitals are for sick people. I did not think that my situation warranted being admitted. Plus I am a special education teacher that had several meetings the next day and I am taking 24 credits in college and it is finals time. There were other concerns that were more pressing. Saul wrote: Hi ,8 litres is about 40% oxygen, which is worrying that your oxygen saturations were a bit low. Why were you so desperate to leave the hospital?Saul>>Reply-To: asthma >To: asthma >Subject: Re: ambulance>Date: Sat, 11 Dec 2004 19:52:47 -0800 (PST)>>When the paramedics were there they said 100% oxygen but now looking at the >report it says 8 liters. At the hospital they wanted to admit me and said >that the very severe oxygen was a concern. I told them that I did not want >to be admited. They said they had to keep me for a few hours until I was >stable. Finally after about 5 hours I was able to convince them that I >needed to leave.I got a big lecture from the dr. and was told that I need >to find a pulmonologist immediately. Thanks for your input on the >situation.>>>saulsclubs wrote:>>Hi ,>>Your tutor was right.>>Are you sure you were put on 100% oxygen. The oxygen you breathe through >normal air is about 24%, 5 litres of oxygen (which is standard) equates at >about that. Having oxygen saturations of 70% on assisted oxygen is >definetely worrying and is a life threatening situation.>>What did they say at the hospital?>>>>Saul>>>__________________________________________________>> Re: ambulance>>>>Tuesday night I was sitting in a college class and was having trouble >breathing. I always have trouble so I wasn't too worried about it, but >everyone else started freaking out. They say that I was on the verge of >passing out, although I do not remember that. The professor called 911 and >the paramedics called. I told them that I was fine and that I legally had >the right to decline treatment. They said that since my pulse ox. was under >70 on 100% oxygen that I was not in the right mind to make my own medical >decisions and that if I did not go willingly they would handcuff me and >take me anyway. I do not think that the whole thing warranted an ambulance >ride. I think that if they thought I had a problem they should have at >least let me go to the Er by private car. Does anyone know the standard on >this? My pulse ox. was 68% and my respiratory rate was 60 breaths per >minute. Did that consititute an emergency? I have always been able to stop >my attacks eventually without ever having to go> to the hospital. That was not even close to my worst attack ever. It is >actually worse right now as I sit here typing this. I am so frustrated by >everything. Thanks for any answers. >>>__________________________________________________> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 13, 2004 Report Share Posted December 13, 2004 Hospitals are for sick people. I did not think that my situation warranted being admitted. Plus I am a special education teacher that had several meetings the next day and I am taking 24 credits in college and it is finals time. There were other concerns that were more pressing. Saul wrote: Hi ,8 litres is about 40% oxygen, which is worrying that your oxygen saturations were a bit low. Why were you so desperate to leave the hospital?Saul>>Reply-To: asthma >To: asthma >Subject: Re: ambulance>Date: Sat, 11 Dec 2004 19:52:47 -0800 (PST)>>When the paramedics were there they said 100% oxygen but now looking at the >report it says 8 liters. At the hospital they wanted to admit me and said >that the very severe oxygen was a concern. I told them that I did not want >to be admited. They said they had to keep me for a few hours until I was >stable. Finally after about 5 hours I was able to convince them that I >needed to leave.I got a big lecture from the dr. and was told that I need >to find a pulmonologist immediately. Thanks for your input on the >situation.>>>saulsclubs wrote:>>Hi ,>>Your tutor was right.>>Are you sure you were put on 100% oxygen. The oxygen you breathe through >normal air is about 24%, 5 litres of oxygen (which is standard) equates at >about that. Having oxygen saturations of 70% on assisted oxygen is >definetely worrying and is a life threatening situation.>>What did they say at the hospital?>>>>Saul>>>__________________________________________________>> Re: ambulance>>>>Tuesday night I was sitting in a college class and was having trouble >breathing. I always have trouble so I wasn't too worried about it, but >everyone else started freaking out. They say that I was on the verge of >passing out, although I do not remember that. The professor called 911 and >the paramedics called. I told them that I was fine and that I legally had >the right to decline treatment. They said that since my pulse ox. was under >70 on 100% oxygen that I was not in the right mind to make my own medical >decisions and that if I did not go willingly they would handcuff me and >take me anyway. I do not think that the whole thing warranted an ambulance >ride. I think that if they thought I had a problem they should have at >least let me go to the Er by private car. Does anyone know the standard on >this? My pulse ox. was 68% and my respiratory rate was 60 breaths per >minute. Did that consititute an emergency? I have always been able to stop >my attacks eventually without ever having to go> to the hospital. That was not even close to my worst attack ever. It is >actually worse right now as I sit here typing this. I am so frustrated by >everything. Thanks for any answers. >>>__________________________________________________> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 13, 2004 Report Share Posted December 13, 2004 Hospitals are for sick people. I did not think that my situation warranted being admitted. Plus I am a special education teacher that had several meetings the next day and I am taking 24 credits in college and it is finals time. There were other concerns that were more pressing. Saul wrote: Hi ,8 litres is about 40% oxygen, which is worrying that your oxygen saturations were a bit low. Why were you so desperate to leave the hospital?Saul>>Reply-To: asthma >To: asthma >Subject: Re: ambulance>Date: Sat, 11 Dec 2004 19:52:47 -0800 (PST)>>When the paramedics were there they said 100% oxygen but now looking at the >report it says 8 liters. At the hospital they wanted to admit me and said >that the very severe oxygen was a concern. I told them that I did not want >to be admited. They said they had to keep me for a few hours until I was >stable. Finally after about 5 hours I was able to convince them that I >needed to leave.I got a big lecture from the dr. and was told that I need >to find a pulmonologist immediately. Thanks for your input on the >situation.>>>saulsclubs wrote:>>Hi ,>>Your tutor was right.>>Are you sure you were put on 100% oxygen. The oxygen you breathe through >normal air is about 24%, 5 litres of oxygen (which is standard) equates at >about that. Having oxygen saturations of 70% on assisted oxygen is >definetely worrying and is a life threatening situation.>>What did they say at the hospital?>>>>Saul>>>__________________________________________________>> Re: ambulance>>>>Tuesday night I was sitting in a college class and was having trouble >breathing. I always have trouble so I wasn't too worried about it, but >everyone else started freaking out. They say that I was on the verge of >passing out, although I do not remember that. The professor called 911 and >the paramedics called. I told them that I was fine and that I legally had >the right to decline treatment. They said that since my pulse ox. was under >70 on 100% oxygen that I was not in the right mind to make my own medical >decisions and that if I did not go willingly they would handcuff me and >take me anyway. I do not think that the whole thing warranted an ambulance >ride. I think that if they thought I had a problem they should have at >least let me go to the Er by private car. Does anyone know the standard on >this? My pulse ox. was 68% and my respiratory rate was 60 breaths per >minute. Did that consititute an emergency? I have always been able to stop >my attacks eventually without ever having to go> to the hospital. That was not even close to my worst attack ever. It is >actually worse right now as I sit here typing this. I am so frustrated by >everything. Thanks for any answers. >>>__________________________________________________> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 14, 2004 Report Share Posted December 14, 2004 Hi , What seriously worries me about your situation is that you don't think you were ill at all. People around you (in your class) said you were virtually unconscious, and the lack of oxygen you had was a life threatening situation, but you don't seem to realise that. I am sure that your work and college are big priorities to you and are pressing concerns, but staying alive should be a major concern as well. Saul > >Reply-To: asthma >To: asthma >Subject: Re: ambulance >Date: Mon, 13 Dec 2004 19:57:57 -0800 (PST) > >Hospitals are for sick people. I did not think that my situation warranted >being admitted. Plus I am a special education teacher that had several >meetings the next day and I am taking 24 credits in college and it is >finals time. There were other concerns that were more pressing. > > >Saul wrote: >Hi , > >8 litres is about 40% oxygen, which is worrying that your oxygen >saturations >were a bit low. Why were you so desperate to leave the hospital? > >Saul > > > > > >Reply-To: asthma > >To: asthma > >Subject: Re: ambulance > >Date: Sat, 11 Dec 2004 19:52:47 -0800 (PST) > > > >When the paramedics were there they said 100% oxygen but now looking at >the > >report it says 8 liters. At the hospital they wanted to admit me and said > >that the very severe oxygen was a concern. I told them that I did not >want > >to be admited. They said they had to keep me for a few hours until I was > >stable. Finally after about 5 hours I was able to convince them that I > >needed to leave.I got a big lecture from the dr. and was told that I need > >to find a pulmonologist immediately. Thanks for your input on the > >situation. > > > > > >saulsclubs wrote: > > > >Hi , > > > >Your tutor was right. > > > >Are you sure you were put on 100% oxygen. The oxygen you breathe through > >normal air is about 24%, 5 litres of oxygen (which is standard) equates >at > >about that. Having oxygen saturations of 70% on assisted oxygen is > >definetely worrying and is a life threatening situation. > > > >What did they say at the hospital? > > > > > > > >Saul > > > > > >__________________________________________________ > > > > Re: ambulance > > > > > > > >Tuesday night I was sitting in a college class and was having trouble > >breathing. I always have trouble so I wasn't too worried about it, but > >everyone else started freaking out. They say that I was on the verge of > >passing out, although I do not remember that. The professor called 911 >and > >the paramedics called. I told them that I was fine and that I legally had > >the right to decline treatment. They said that since my pulse ox. was >under > >70 on 100% oxygen that I was not in the right mind to make my own medical > >decisions and that if I did not go willingly they would handcuff me and > >take me anyway. I do not think that the whole thing warranted an >ambulance > >ride. I think that if they thought I had a problem they should have at > >least let me go to the Er by private car. Does anyone know the standard >on > >this? My pulse ox. was 68% and my respiratory rate was 60 breaths per > >minute. Did that consititute an emergency? I have always been able to >stop > >my attacks eventually without ever having to go > > to the hospital. That was not even close to my worst attack ever. It is > >actually worse right now as I sit here typing this. I am so frustrated by > >everything. Thanks for any answers. > > > > > >__________________________________________________ > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 14, 2004 Report Share Posted December 14, 2004 Hi, The news about MRSA is badly exaggerated and if it is stopping people getting into treatment, then something is wrong. It is not something you just catch in hospital, it is an organism that lives on every human being, that usually is not harmful unless your immune system is weakened, especially after surgery, where there are wound sites on the body. The problem is that because antibiotics were used with such regularity in the last 20 years, the strain has evolved, and people are no longer able to fight off infections, which is why it spreads rapidly. It is something that is with us, has always been with us, and will always be with us, it is how it is controlled that makes the difference. Reading the media you would think it is only exclusive to hospitals, and that nurses are the only people who can pass it on. Actually, the highest prevalence of MRSA is not in hospitals, but on the tube network. Saul Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 14, 2004 Report Share Posted December 14, 2004 Hi , From the symptoms and information you gave me about your asthma attack, in my professional opinion, it does suggest to me that it would warrant an ambulance ride, and at the least an ER visit. I am worried that you have had worse attacks then this though, and hope that things do improve for you. It is a concern that you have to pay for each visit, it doesn't work this way in the UK. It is true that nebuliser treatments would have been offered, but they would have been able to monitor you closely for signs of deterioration and signs of respiratory failure. You did mention in your first email that people thought you were unconscious or nearly unconscious. You may not have been able to do nebuliser treatments yourself if you did lose consciousness. It's obviously not the greatest comparison, but the majority of deaths from heart attacks are caused by people ignoring the symptoms, until it becomes too late, which is why there is a lot of education about it in this country at the moment. I hope that you manage to stay relatively well until April, when you can get to see you pulmonary specialist. Saul Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 14, 2004 Report Share Posted December 14, 2004 Hi , From the symptoms and information you gave me about your asthma attack, in my professional opinion, it does suggest to me that it would warrant an ambulance ride, and at the least an ER visit. I am worried that you have had worse attacks then this though, and hope that things do improve for you. It is a concern that you have to pay for each visit, it doesn't work this way in the UK. It is true that nebuliser treatments would have been offered, but they would have been able to monitor you closely for signs of deterioration and signs of respiratory failure. You did mention in your first email that people thought you were unconscious or nearly unconscious. You may not have been able to do nebuliser treatments yourself if you did lose consciousness. It's obviously not the greatest comparison, but the majority of deaths from heart attacks are caused by people ignoring the symptoms, until it becomes too late, which is why there is a lot of education about it in this country at the moment. I hope that you manage to stay relatively well until April, when you can get to see you pulmonary specialist. Saul Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 15, 2004 Report Share Posted December 15, 2004 Hi Saul, I'm new here and you said in your professional opinion. Are you a Doctor? Not trying to be smart, just think it is great to maybe have someone on the list with medical knowledge. -- - In asthma , " Saul " <saulsclubs@h...> wrote: > Hi , > > From the symptoms and information you gave me about your asthma attack, in > my professional opinion, it does suggest to me that it would warrant an > ambulance ride, and at the least an ER visit. I am worried that you have had > worse attacks then this though, and hope that things do improve for you. > > It is a concern that you have to pay for each visit, it doesn't work this > way in the UK. It is true that nebuliser treatments would have been offered, > but they would have been able to monitor you closely for signs of > deterioration and signs of respiratory failure. You did mention in your > first email that people thought you were unconscious or nearly unconscious. > You may not have been able to do nebuliser treatments yourself if you did > lose consciousness. > > It's obviously not the greatest comparison, but the majority of deaths from > heart attacks are caused by people ignoring the symptoms, until it becomes > too late, which is why there is a lot of education about it in this country > at the moment. > > I hope that you manage to stay relatively well until April, when you can get > to see you pulmonary specialist. > > Saul Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 15, 2004 Report Share Posted December 15, 2004 Hi Saul, I'm new here and you said in your professional opinion. Are you a Doctor? Not trying to be smart, just think it is great to maybe have someone on the list with medical knowledge. -- - In asthma , " Saul " <saulsclubs@h...> wrote: > Hi , > > From the symptoms and information you gave me about your asthma attack, in > my professional opinion, it does suggest to me that it would warrant an > ambulance ride, and at the least an ER visit. I am worried that you have had > worse attacks then this though, and hope that things do improve for you. > > It is a concern that you have to pay for each visit, it doesn't work this > way in the UK. It is true that nebuliser treatments would have been offered, > but they would have been able to monitor you closely for signs of > deterioration and signs of respiratory failure. You did mention in your > first email that people thought you were unconscious or nearly unconscious. > You may not have been able to do nebuliser treatments yourself if you did > lose consciousness. > > It's obviously not the greatest comparison, but the majority of deaths from > heart attacks are caused by people ignoring the symptoms, until it becomes > too late, which is why there is a lot of education about it in this country > at the moment. > > I hope that you manage to stay relatively well until April, when you can get > to see you pulmonary specialist. > > Saul Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 15, 2004 Report Share Posted December 15, 2004 Hi , No, I'm not a doctor, but I am a nurse. I have suffered from asthma for about three years, which has steadily been getting worse, so I do have a perspective from both sides of the fence. I do have medical knowledge, though not as much as a doctor (though depends on the doctor!). I do think, however, from what I have read on the list, that a lot of people are well-informed about their condition and how to cope with it, so not too sure how much help I can be. But any help I can give, I will try my best. Saul Re: ambulance Hi Saul,I'm new here and you said in your professional opinion. Are you a Doctor? Not trying to be smart, just think it is great to maybe have someone on the list with medical knowledge.> Hi ,> > From the symptoms and information you gave me about your asthma attack, in > my professional opinion, it does suggest to me that it would warrant an > ambulance ride, and at the least an ER visit. I am worried that you have had > worse attacks then this though, and hope that things do improve for you.> > It is a concern that you have to pay for each visit, it doesn't work this > way in the UK. It is true that nebuliser treatments would have been offered, > but they would have been able to monitor you closely for signs of > deterioration and signs of respiratory failure. You did mention in your > first email that people thought you were unconscious or nearly unconscious. > You may not have been able to do nebuliser treatments yourself if you did > lose consciousness.> > It's obviously not the greatest comparison, but the majority of deaths from > heart attacks are caused by people ignoring the symptoms, until it becomes > too late, which is why there is a lot of education about it in this country > at the moment.> > I hope that you manage to stay relatively well until April, when you can get > to see you pulmonary specialist.> > Saul Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 15, 2004 Report Share Posted December 15, 2004 Hi , No, I'm not a doctor, but I am a nurse. I have suffered from asthma for about three years, which has steadily been getting worse, so I do have a perspective from both sides of the fence. I do have medical knowledge, though not as much as a doctor (though depends on the doctor!). I do think, however, from what I have read on the list, that a lot of people are well-informed about their condition and how to cope with it, so not too sure how much help I can be. But any help I can give, I will try my best. Saul Re: ambulance Hi Saul,I'm new here and you said in your professional opinion. Are you a Doctor? Not trying to be smart, just think it is great to maybe have someone on the list with medical knowledge.> Hi ,> > From the symptoms and information you gave me about your asthma attack, in > my professional opinion, it does suggest to me that it would warrant an > ambulance ride, and at the least an ER visit. I am worried that you have had > worse attacks then this though, and hope that things do improve for you.> > It is a concern that you have to pay for each visit, it doesn't work this > way in the UK. It is true that nebuliser treatments would have been offered, > but they would have been able to monitor you closely for signs of > deterioration and signs of respiratory failure. You did mention in your > first email that people thought you were unconscious or nearly unconscious. > You may not have been able to do nebuliser treatments yourself if you did > lose consciousness.> > It's obviously not the greatest comparison, but the majority of deaths from > heart attacks are caused by people ignoring the symptoms, until it becomes > too late, which is why there is a lot of education about it in this country > at the moment.> > I hope that you manage to stay relatively well until April, when you can get > to see you pulmonary specialist.> > Saul Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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