Re: still learning

October 15, 2000

,

There are a lot of things out there, but in order for something to work your

body has to properly absorb the nutient you want to take. Vitamin A has

great benefit, but how best to Get IT.

The most efficient way for tour body to absorb it is to get it from whole

fresh organic foods, but there is a limit to how many carrots you can eat.

Therefore fresh carrot juice is probably your best way. Also adding dark

leafy green vegetables such as spinach,swiss chard,collards etc are very

helpful.

I find a champion juicer very good. The ease of cleaning is probably the

most important thing about a juicer. Since the best juicer is the one you

want to use most often. The Acme juicerator was a good one, but it is hard

to clean as is the Omega which is built similarly. These are the only ones

I've personally used, but I hear the others are probably just as good.Dr.NW

one of the early promoters of juicing for serious diseases

recommended only a " triturator " which the Champion is. I don't really know

whether it makes a difference but you should make sure that whatever juicer

you get can handle carrots, beets, dark leafy geens, apples, pineapples

etc.It should be sturdy enough to use it everyday if you're fighting cancer.

As to beta carotein, it is only one of many of the caroteinoids contained in

yellow vegetables. It was hyped as THE ACTIVE ingredient in vitamin A, but

it is limited to the state of our modern scientific discoveries in the year

2000. There are many other caroteinoids in whole carrots and you can't

isolate one of them and say you have found IT. Juice the whole carrot and

you'll get ALL the caroteinoids you need in large enough quantity.

How is your kidney? this has to handle all the protein.

I am very impressed with the Blood Type Diet that Dr. D' Adamo has

written about. What is your blood type?

He say type A does best on a vegetarian diet and Types O and B need some

meat. Type AB is a mixture of both.

The meat eating diets tend to be higher in protein.

I was not aware of any recommendations on protein and cancer.

I would imagine that deep muscle massage would be good if it can help to

stimulate the lymph system which helps carry out the waste from your cells.

Others on the list might know more about this.

Good luck,

Arnold Gore

Consumers Health Freedom Coalition

still learning

> I would like to say thankyou all so much for your much needed help.

> I`ve been a little under the weather the last couple of days.

> I`ve been reading everything I can get my hands on.Learning alot.

> I think I have a very good oncologist as he is not trying to deter me

> from anything. My nurse is helping me understand the cells of mine

> that have cancer so I can make the best judgment.

> I have read some contradictory information and would appreciate if

> anyone could help clarify things for me.

> Vitamin A? Some say good and some say not? Is there two different

> vitaman A? Beta carotine vitamin a is found here? Animals have vit A,

> I can`t wrap my head around this one.

> In regards to a juicer, the ones found in sears are they okay or iss

> there a different one?

> Protien?, is this good for cancer? Some say no, or is the issue where

> you get it from and how much?

> The last question for now, Is a deep muscle massage bad or okay for

> cancer? I`ve read no but my oncologist says it`s fine.

>

> Sorry for all the questions, I just don`t want to start without the

> correct information or cause myself further damage.

>

> I`m trying to format a diet and all your help is appreciated.

> Thankyou and God Bless.

>

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October 16, 2000

As a qualified aromatherapist we do not recommend that anyone with Cancer has

any

form of massage, unless they are sure that they have had all the cancer cells

removed (with surgery normally). The reason for this with aromatherapy massage

is

that it stimulates the blood circulation any lymphatic drainage, which in itself

is very good, but if cancer cells are still present it is also an effective way

of distributing cancer cells to the whole body through the lymph system.

Aromatherapy, however is a light massage that is especially good for working the

lymph system, hence the risks, deep massage will not have the same effect, but

it

would still be considered a contra-indication to massage.

Try to contact an experienced therapist for advice or a training centre before

proceeding

Debbie

debbie@...

Minx Multimedia

tel: 01535 603205/607541

October 16, 2000

Arnold, Thankyou for your response. I bought a Juiceman Master it seems to

handle everything very well and is easy to clean. I was keeping in mind your

advice as I looked at it.

My kidneys are good.

I am B- blood type. Does the book say anything about the pos neg factor?

I guess that means some protien but with cancer I think I`ll limit it .

Bannanas have alot of protien and easy to digest? Is that a good choice?

I am afraid to activate my blood and lympatic system too much as this is

where my cancer is. I don`t want to spread it. I don`t know if that could

happen but considering a few people have warned me, I think I`ll comprimise

with mild excersise instead of the massage.I do have a hot bath every night,

so this should help too.

Thanks again and any more advise you thik I could use is much welcomed.

PS. I hope the way I sent this wasn~t the way they discourage, Sorry if it

is.

January 10, 2003

Hi,

Whether or not a child needs more than one band depends on the

severity of the plagio and the childs age. Ususally a young infant

will only need one. An older baby may need 2. It really depends. Yes,

you have to pay for as many bands as your child needs if your ins

won't cover.

> Typically, How many bands does a child go through before he/she is

> finished? I always just thought it was one, but sounds like a lot

of

> kids get more than one.. I still don't really know the process. If

> they get 2, 3 etc and it has to come out of pocket because ins

won't

> cover, does that mean that the parents pay $1 to $3 thousand

> (depending on the band) for each band?

January 10, 2003

Thanks. That's what I figured, but just wanted to check. I want to

know as much as possible before I finally get to see the

cranio/facial specialist for Makenna, so I just ask questions as they

pop up. I apologize if my questions seem ignorant.

> > Typically, How many bands does a child go through before he/she

is

> > finished? I always just thought it was one, but sounds like a lot

> of

> > kids get more than one.. I still don't really know the process.

If

> > they get 2, 3 etc and it has to come out of pocket because ins

> won't

> > cover, does that mean that the parents pay $1 to $3 thousand

> > (depending on the band) for each band?

January 10, 2003

No question is an ignorant one!! It is only a good thing that you are

trying to learn all you can about plagio. In the end you'll probably

know more than most pediatricians! Ask away.. it's what we are here

for. When is your appt with the specialist?

> > > Typically, How many bands does a child go through before he/she

> is

> > > finished? I always just thought it was one, but sounds like a

lot

> > of

> > > kids get more than one.. I still don't really know the process.

> If

> > > they get 2, 3 etc and it has to come out of pocket because ins

> > won't

> > > cover, does that mean that the parents pay $1 to $3 thousand

> > > (depending on the band) for each band?

January 10, 2003

Right now I am playing the waiting game. The doctor submitted the

referral on the 2nd and he said it would be reviewed on the 6th.

Haven't heard a word. I am supposed to wait for Loma to call

me. I am calling them on Monday if I don't hear anything by then.

Makenna is getting harder and harder to position now that she rolls

around. I was really hoping to have a band by now.

> > > > Typically, How many bands does a child go through before

he/she

> > is

> > > > finished? I always just thought it was one, but sounds like a

> lot

> > > of

> > > > kids get more than one.. I still don't really know the

process.

> > If

> > > > they get 2, 3 etc and it has to come out of pocket because

ins

> > > won't

> > > > cover, does that mean that the parents pay $1 to $3 thousand

> > > > (depending on the band) for each band?

January 10, 2003

UGH!! I would definitely call on Monday! It ususally takes some time

to get in to see a specialist. Hopefully you won't have that long of

a wait. How old is Makenna? Please keep us posted.

> > > > > Typically, How many bands does a child go through before

> he/she

> > > is

> > > > > finished? I always just thought it was one, but sounds like

a

> > lot

> > > > of

> > > > > kids get more than one.. I still don't really know the

> process.

> > > If

> > > > > they get 2, 3 etc and it has to come out of pocket because

> ins

> > > > won't

> > > > > cover, does that mean that the parents pay $1 to $3

thousand

> > > > > (depending on the band) for each band?

February 6, 2004

crooked dancer, I am a 42 year old female who had a 1974 surgery with a

harrington rod. I was diagnosed with flatback in 2001 and was given physical

therapy and exercises to do at home. They had helped for a while but within the

last few months I have had more severe back pain and my hips have been

hurting(which they never did before) We just moved to a new state recently and I

don't even want to look for a new job because I feel like theres no way I could

work a 40 hour a week job. It takes me a couple of hours in the morning to just

get moving. I haven't wanted to think of revision surgery until it gets much

worse. I am trying to find a good doctor here in Arizona to start going to

because I feel like things are getting worse and I need to find out how quickly

this is going to progress. There is a lot to read and study on revision surgery

and I have just begun. Try to get your hands on everything you can read about

it.

still learning

I am a 44 yr old female with a harrington rod to L3. My surgery was

performd in 1975 at 15yr's old. In 2002 I went to see an orth.. for a

sprain in my right waist that would not go away, I have had sprains

before but they always went away as mesteriously as the came. The

orthopedic Dr recomended thrapy, no result, then Naproxen, no

results. As time past it progressed. I used to hike 5 miles with two

daughters, we used to love to hike throught the woods. Now after

15min my hips feel stiff and tired. So i went to see an orthopedic

spine surgeon that told me I have flatback with D.D.D. So he

recomended epidurals, that has not helped either. I am home now on

temp dis.. I have been recomended for water therapy now 3 times a

weak, I am exersising more now that I'm home I'm hopping the

stretching and strengthening exercises work. I am verry glad I found

this site. I have also learned more about flatback. I am looking for

SOMEONE out there who is 44 or older or even younger that has

recoverd to an active lifestyle just by streching and strenghthening

exercises.??? I am still trying to learn more about the revision

surgeries.

Support for scoliosis-surgery veterans with Harrington Rod Malalignment

Syndrome. Not medical advice. Group does not control ads or endorse any

advertised products.

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February 8, 2004

Crooked Dancer -

If you are looking for something to strengthen, lengthen and stretch - NO

impact, you should try beginner's Pilates. There are a couple of things

that I can't do because of the rods, but for the most part it is FANTASTIC.

Our body and especially bones DEPEND on long lean muscles for support and

moving.... the long lean muscles is what we use to walk. If I could stretch

lengthen and STRENGTHEN my long lean muscles, then my muscles can do all

the work of holding my spine, hips, shoulders, neck, head. I did 15 minutes

of the beginner... and was thinking that this was just not going to do

ANYTHING at all. Well, the next day I was HURTIN' for certain.... my

muscles had not been stretched in SO LONG that they were fightin' back at me

- LOL! So I took a day off and then got back on it... Now I am getting

through the second phase - SLOWLY. I know there is a lot more to go and a

lot to work on, but I am not rushing it. I have been this way since I was

17 (car accident, spinal fusion with Harrington rods (two) from T11 to L3 in

order to stabilize a burst-type fracture of my L1 (seven pieces - exploded).

I have been very inactive, very lazy, using my " disability " as an excuse

NOT to exercise. In my younger years it was like the surgery never happened

and I did not have an " issue " with my back... probably over-doing it and

doing stupid stuff... kid stuff... but I am paying for it NOW!!! I do

everything unhealthy for myself, and I am MAD at myself. The most positive

thing I have done for myself is to keep doing the Pilates (only doing the

exercises that I know I can do), then I will move on to my next goal.

Take a look at Pilates..... they have CDs at Books-A-Million - you might

like 'em....

Bobbie

-- Re: still learning

crooked dancer, I am a 42 year old female who had a 1974 surgery with a

harrington rod. I was diagnosed with flatback in 2001 and was given

physical therapy and exercises to do at home. They had helped for a while

but within the last few months I have had more severe back pain and my hips

have been hurting(which they never did before) We just moved to a new state

recently and I don't even want to look for a new job because I feel like

theres no way I could work a 40 hour a week job. It takes me a couple of

hours in the morning to just get moving. I haven't wanted to think of

revision surgery until it gets much worse. I am trying to find a good doctor

here in Arizona to start going to because I feel like things are getting

worse and I need to find out how quickly this is going to progress. There is

a lot to read and study on revision surgery and I have just begun. Try to

get your hands on everything you can read about it.