Re: stretch marks (was unknown)

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Interestingger and interestinger, fits Sam and his Dad

Mx

Think stretch marks can be associated with over-production of cortisol. And one thing is for sure children and adults with autism who are in a permanent state of anxiety produce lots of cortisol.! You will find references under cushings syndrome/adrenal issues etc.

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SOme pictures here http://www.mdjunction.com/forums/lyme-disease-support-forums/general-support/110912-bartonellastretch-mark-rash-anyone-familiar/limitstart/10 Ours look like the tree trunk pattern on side of body - hip and up almost into chest. They are very purple at times and then the coloring will fade into what I thought was 'stretch marks.' We have no positive test for Bart; only a weak positive plus scads of symptoms for Lyme. >> OOOH Sam has stretch marks and so does his dad, nether of which were very > overweight, s are on his legs, I figured he grew real > quick................hmmmmmmmmmm> > Mandi x> > > In a message dated 01/12/2011 13:28:28 GMT Standard Time, mbrookh@... > writes:> > What I thought for years were 'stretch marks' in a not very fat person, > seem to be classic for a coinfection for Lyme[bartonella] so it would seem > that Lyme comes with some friends! >

[Guest guest]

Interestingger and interestinger, fits Sam and his Dad

Mx

Think stretch marks can be associated with over-production of cortisol. And one thing is for sure children and adults with autism who are in a permanent state of anxiety produce lots of cortisol.! You will find references under cushings syndrome/adrenal issues etc.

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SOme pictures here http://www.mdjunction.com/forums/lyme-disease-support-forums/general-support/110912-bartonellastretch-mark-rash-anyone-familiar/limitstart/10 Ours look like the tree trunk pattern on side of body - hip and up almost into chest. They are very purple at times and then the coloring will fade into what I thought was 'stretch marks.' We have no positive test for Bart; only a weak positive plus scads of symptoms for Lyme. >> OOOH Sam has stretch marks and so does his dad, nether of which were very > overweight, s are on his legs, I figured he grew real > quick................hmmmmmmmmmm> > Mandi x> > > In a message dated 01/12/2011 13:28:28 GMT Standard Time, mbrookh@... > writes:> > What I thought for years were 'stretch marks' in a not very fat person, > seem to be classic for a coinfection for Lyme[bartonella] so it would seem > that Lyme comes with some friends! >

[Guest guest]

Interestingger and interestinger, fits Sam and his Dad

Mx

Think stretch marks can be associated with over-production of cortisol. And one thing is for sure children and adults with autism who are in a permanent state of anxiety produce lots of cortisol.! You will find references under cushings syndrome/adrenal issues etc.

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SOme pictures here http://www.mdjunction.com/forums/lyme-disease-support-forums/general-support/110912-bartonellastretch-mark-rash-anyone-familiar/limitstart/10 Ours look like the tree trunk pattern on side of body - hip and up almost into chest. They are very purple at times and then the coloring will fade into what I thought was 'stretch marks.' We have no positive test for Bart; only a weak positive plus scads of symptoms for Lyme. >> OOOH Sam has stretch marks and so does his dad, nether of which were very > overweight, s are on his legs, I figured he grew real > quick................hmmmmmmmmmm> > Mandi x> > > In a message dated 01/12/2011 13:28:28 GMT Standard Time, mbrookh@... > writes:> > What I thought for years were 'stretch marks' in a not very fat person, > seem to be classic for a coinfection for Lyme[bartonella] so it would seem > that Lyme comes with some friends! >

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NHS early morning Cortisol test was OK here - DS' run horizontally too and don't look like the Lyme pics. They didn't start off maroon either but just appeared as they are now several years ago. CDate: Thursday, 1 December, 2011, 23:53clairelefeuvre@... writes:

Think stretch marks can be associated with over-production of cortisol.

SOme pictures here http://www.mdjunction.com/forums/lyme-disease-support-forums/general-support/110912-bartonellastretch-mark-rash-anyone-familiar/limitstart/10 Ours look like the tree trunk pattern on side of body - hip and up almost into chest. They are very purple at times and then the coloring will fade into what I thought was 'stretch marks.' We have no positive test for Bart; only a weak positive plus scads of symptoms for Lyme.

[Guest guest]

NHS early morning Cortisol test was OK here - DS' run horizontally too and don't look like the Lyme pics. They didn't start off maroon either but just appeared as they are now several years ago. CDate: Thursday, 1 December, 2011, 23:53clairelefeuvre@... writes:

Think stretch marks can be associated with over-production of cortisol.

SOme pictures here http://www.mdjunction.com/forums/lyme-disease-support-forums/general-support/110912-bartonellastretch-mark-rash-anyone-familiar/limitstart/10 Ours look like the tree trunk pattern on side of body - hip and up almost into chest. They are very purple at times and then the coloring will fade into what I thought was 'stretch marks.' We have no positive test for Bart; only a weak positive plus scads of symptoms for Lyme.

[Guest guest]

NHS early morning Cortisol test was OK here - DS' run horizontally too and don't look like the Lyme pics. They didn't start off maroon either but just appeared as they are now several years ago. CDate: Thursday, 1 December, 2011, 23:53clairelefeuvre@... writes:

Think stretch marks can be associated with over-production of cortisol.

SOme pictures here http://www.mdjunction.com/forums/lyme-disease-support-forums/general-support/110912-bartonellastretch-mark-rash-anyone-familiar/limitstart/10 Ours look like the tree trunk pattern on side of body - hip and up almost into chest. They are very purple at times and then the coloring will fade into what I thought was 'stretch marks.' We have no positive test for Bart; only a weak positive plus scads of symptoms for Lyme.

[Guest guest]

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The NHS early morning cortisol test is not an ideal way of measuring cortisol

levels. A 24hr urinary test is usually used for identifying high cortisol

production throughout the day. Also, there is the 24Hr Saliva Adrenal Stress

profile which measures cortisol output at 4 times during the day. It is possible

to produce high cortisol later in the day and this not show up on the early

morning test.

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> NHS early morning Cortisol test was OK here - DS' run horizontally too and

don't look like the Lyme pics. They didn't start off maroon either but just

appeared as they are now several years ago. C

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> Date: Thursday, 1 December, 2011, 23:53

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> SOme pictures here

http://www.mdjunction.com/forums/lyme-disease-support-forums/general-support/110\

912-bartonellastretch-mark-rash-anyone-familiar/limitstart/10

> Ours look like the tree trunk pattern on side of body - hip and up almost

into

> chest. They are very purple at times and then the coloring will fade into

what

> I thought was 'stretch marks.' We have no positive test for Bart; only a

weak

> positive plus scads of symptoms for Lyme.

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[Guest guest]

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The NHS early morning cortisol test is not an ideal way of measuring cortisol

levels. A 24hr urinary test is usually used for identifying high cortisol

production throughout the day. Also, there is the 24Hr Saliva Adrenal Stress

profile which measures cortisol output at 4 times during the day. It is possible

to produce high cortisol later in the day and this not show up on the early

morning test.

>

> NHS early morning Cortisol test was OK here - DS' run horizontally too and

don't look like the Lyme pics. They didn't start off maroon either but just

appeared as they are now several years ago. C

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> Date: Thursday, 1 December, 2011, 23:53

> clairelefeuvre@... writes:

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> Think stretch marks can

> be associated with over-production of cortisol.  

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> SOme pictures here

http://www.mdjunction.com/forums/lyme-disease-support-forums/general-support/110\

912-bartonellastretch-mark-rash-anyone-familiar/limitstart/10

> Ours look like the tree trunk pattern on side of body - hip and up almost

into

> chest. They are very purple at times and then the coloring will fade into

what

> I thought was 'stretch marks.' We have no positive test for Bart; only a

weak

> positive plus scads of symptoms for Lyme.

>

[Guest guest]

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The NHS early morning cortisol test is not an ideal way of measuring cortisol

levels. A 24hr urinary test is usually used for identifying high cortisol

production throughout the day. Also, there is the 24Hr Saliva Adrenal Stress

profile which measures cortisol output at 4 times during the day. It is possible

to produce high cortisol later in the day and this not show up on the early

morning test.

>

> NHS early morning Cortisol test was OK here - DS' run horizontally too and

don't look like the Lyme pics. They didn't start off maroon either but just

appeared as they are now several years ago. C

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> Date: Thursday, 1 December, 2011, 23:53

> clairelefeuvre@... writes:

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> Think stretch marks can

> be associated with over-production of cortisol.  

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> SOme pictures here

http://www.mdjunction.com/forums/lyme-disease-support-forums/general-support/110\

912-bartonellastretch-mark-rash-anyone-familiar/limitstart/10

> Ours look like the tree trunk pattern on side of body - hip and up almost

into

> chest. They are very purple at times and then the coloring will fade into

what

> I thought was 'stretch marks.' We have no positive test for Bart; only a

weak

> positive plus scads of symptoms for Lyme.

>

[Guest guest]

Thanks . CSubject: Re: stretch marks (was unknown)To: Autism-Biomedical-Europe Date: Friday, 2 December, 2011, 5:52

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The NHS early morning cortisol test is not an ideal way of measuring cortisol levels. A 24hr urinary test is usually used for identifying high cortisol production throughout the day. Also, there is the 24Hr Saliva Adrenal Stress profile which measures cortisol output at 4 times during the day. It is possible to produce high cortisol later in the day and this not show up on the early morning test.

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> NHS early morning Cortisol test was OK here - DS' run horizontally too and don't look like the Lyme pics. They didn't start off maroon either but just appeared as they are now several years ago. C

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> Date: Thursday, 1 December, 2011, 23:53

> clairelefeuvre@... writes:

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> Think stretch marks can

> be associated with over-production of cortisol.

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> SOme pictures here http://www.mdjunction.com/forums/lyme-disease-support-forums/general-support/110912-bartonellastretch-mark-rash-anyone-familiar/limitstart/10

> Ours look like the tree trunk pattern on side of body - hip and up almost into

> chest. They are very purple at times and then the coloring will fade into what

> I thought was 'stretch marks.' We have no positive test for Bart; only a weak

> positive plus scads of symptoms for Lyme.

>

[Guest guest]

Thanks . CSubject: Re: stretch marks (was unknown)To: Autism-Biomedical-Europe Date: Friday, 2 December, 2011, 5:52

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The NHS early morning cortisol test is not an ideal way of measuring cortisol levels. A 24hr urinary test is usually used for identifying high cortisol production throughout the day. Also, there is the 24Hr Saliva Adrenal Stress profile which measures cortisol output at 4 times during the day. It is possible to produce high cortisol later in the day and this not show up on the early morning test.

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> NHS early morning Cortisol test was OK here - DS' run horizontally too and don't look like the Lyme pics. They didn't start off maroon either but just appeared as they are now several years ago. C

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> Date: Thursday, 1 December, 2011, 23:53

> clairelefeuvre@... writes:

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> Think stretch marks can

> be associated with over-production of cortisol.

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> SOme pictures here http://www.mdjunction.com/forums/lyme-disease-support-forums/general-support/110912-bartonellastretch-mark-rash-anyone-familiar/limitstart/10

> Ours look like the tree trunk pattern on side of body - hip and up almost into

> chest. They are very purple at times and then the coloring will fade into what

> I thought was 'stretch marks.' We have no positive test for Bart; only a weak

> positive plus scads of symptoms for Lyme.

>

[Guest guest]

Thanks . CSubject: Re: stretch marks (was unknown)To: Autism-Biomedical-Europe Date: Friday, 2 December, 2011, 5:52

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The NHS early morning cortisol test is not an ideal way of measuring cortisol levels. A 24hr urinary test is usually used for identifying high cortisol production throughout the day. Also, there is the 24Hr Saliva Adrenal Stress profile which measures cortisol output at 4 times during the day. It is possible to produce high cortisol later in the day and this not show up on the early morning test.

>

> NHS early morning Cortisol test was OK here - DS' run horizontally too and don't look like the Lyme pics. They didn't start off maroon either but just appeared as they are now several years ago. C

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> Date: Thursday, 1 December, 2011, 23:53

> clairelefeuvre@... writes:

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> Think stretch marks can

> be associated with over-production of cortisol.

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> SOme pictures here http://www.mdjunction.com/forums/lyme-disease-support-forums/general-support/110912-bartonellastretch-mark-rash-anyone-familiar/limitstart/10

> Ours look like the tree trunk pattern on side of body - hip and up almost into

> chest. They are very purple at times and then the coloring will fade into what

> I thought was 'stretch marks.' We have no positive test for Bart; only a weak

> positive plus scads of symptoms for Lyme.

>

[Guest guest]

Sao was my early morning NHS test, the salvia test had me with severe adrenal fatigue FWIW

Mx

NHS early morning Cortisol test was OK here - DS' run horizontally too and don't look like the Lyme pics. They didn't start off maroon either but just appeared as they are now several years ago. C

Date: Thursday, 1 December, 2011, 23:53clairelefeuvre@... writes:

Think stretch marks can be associated with over-production of cortisol.

SOme pictures here http://www.mdjunction.com/forums/lyme-disease-support-forums/general-support/110912-bartonellastretch-mark-rash-anyone-familiar/limitstart/10 Ours look like the tree trunk pattern on side of body - hip and up almost into chest. They are very purple at times and then the coloring will fade into what I thought was 'stretch marks.' We have no positive test for Bart; only a weak positive plus scads of symptoms for Lyme.