Guest guest Posted February 5, 2005 Report Share Posted February 5, 2005 dd, 11 , pdd-nos, mainstreamed in gr.5, has an aide in class to help the teacher, thats all the help she gets, I spend alot of $$ to have her basically homeschooled by a tutor. There are no special ed classes here, everyone believes in integration, which basically means we welcome your child for socialization, but educating her is up to you, but of course they would never admit that. There is a school for special needs kids, classes of 10-12 with a special ed teacher and an aide, all services are free from ST, OT, Life Skills, Creative Arts, my thinking is this would be wonderful for her, now I'm getting feedback from people saying oh how could you put her there, it would ruin her self-esteem, blah,blah blah, being with NT kids are the best role models. Anyways I totally disagree, she would fall through the cracks. I personally feel that her self esteem would improve seeing that she is not the only child like this rather than being shunned by NT kids. So I had to have her re-evaluated and her scores fall in the mental deficiency range, I wasn't surprised but now is she considered to be slow? Intellectually delayed? I asked her on the way home what were some of the questions asked, and she said she was asked what a clock was, her answer, it ticks. I said you know what a cloc is for, telling time? She said to me, of course I know, and the doctor knows the answer, so why did she ask me a stupid question like that? I guess I'm just alittle upset, even her AS friends look at her like shes from Mars sometimes. But getting back to my question, what would you say to these people who are clueless of what its like to have a child like her? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 6, 2005 Report Share Posted February 6, 2005 Diane, I like the answer your daughter gave, she thinks those " professionals " are bunch of nuts, lol! When Allie was about to go into Child Find from Early Intervention, I had parents telling me time and time again that sending Allie to a school exclusively for disabled students was the worst mistake I could make for Allie. They said she wouldn't learn how to be " normal " . Well, after sending her there, I realize it was the best decision I ever made for her. She LOVED that school. She was in special autism classes just for students with autism. They had super structure, visual aids everywhere, and nearly 1:1 ratio of professionals to students. She could not wait to get to school each morning and would walk in the door with such excitement. The staff loved her and everyone knew who Allie was. As she would walk to class everyone who passed would say, " Hello, Allie! " and she would say, " Hello, Allie! " back to them. They loved it and would laugh and then she would laugh, seemingly proud to have been so funny. This year Allie is in a mixed setting. Her receptive skills have gone through the roof, but she isn't nearly as happy. She doesn't like her new environment and I think it's chaotic to her. I think when she's in a regular K next year it *might* get better for her, because it will be more structured, this class seems to have constant hiccups in the schedule. She also knows when the other kids don't understand why she's upset. I wonder what the kids say to her when I'm not around, 'cause the K teacher made the comment to me that she's gonna have to get more verbal, as if Allie chooses to not know how to speak to others. My thought is that you do what's best for your daughter and the rest of the people can just deal with it. Honestly, I think people who are so against their kids being with other kids with disabilities are probably fighting the feelings we sometimes have when we aren't accepting of others. Before Allie was diagnosed I was the worst. I hated being around people who where different and saw them as defective. Now I can see that being around older kids with disabilities aren't the disaster people say. A child in a disabled class might certainly miss out on some of the social aspects of a general ed -- like being made fun of, learning dirty words, and how to be the target. Being in special ed they see other kids with struggles but intelligence. Sure, they may see more behaviors deemed inappropriate, but it's been my observation that kids with autism around typical kids are still gonna do what they're gonna do, only be shamed about it. My Allie didn't start banging her head until she was in this blended environment. She never banged her head in the autism class. She rarely screamed and fell out in her ASD class, but this year it's a constant battle. Last year the other kids understood when she was upset and tried to comfort her. This year they all look at her like she's nuts. I just had a bitter argument with my uncle last weekend over this very thing. The fact is, many people, with or without special ed kids, still have a long way to go in acceptance of all people. I'm also having to learn that as much as I love my uncle, he's not gonna see the trees for the forest blinding his view. Learning we have to do what's best for our kids in spite of other's criticism is hard, but freeing to come to terms with. It would sure be nice to have friends and family on our team, but it's much nicer to know we're doing the right thing for our kids, regardless of their ignorant thoughts. HTH, Debi Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 6, 2005 Report Share Posted February 6, 2005 Diane, I like the answer your daughter gave, she thinks those " professionals " are bunch of nuts, lol! When Allie was about to go into Child Find from Early Intervention, I had parents telling me time and time again that sending Allie to a school exclusively for disabled students was the worst mistake I could make for Allie. They said she wouldn't learn how to be " normal " . Well, after sending her there, I realize it was the best decision I ever made for her. She LOVED that school. She was in special autism classes just for students with autism. They had super structure, visual aids everywhere, and nearly 1:1 ratio of professionals to students. She could not wait to get to school each morning and would walk in the door with such excitement. The staff loved her and everyone knew who Allie was. As she would walk to class everyone who passed would say, " Hello, Allie! " and she would say, " Hello, Allie! " back to them. They loved it and would laugh and then she would laugh, seemingly proud to have been so funny. This year Allie is in a mixed setting. Her receptive skills have gone through the roof, but she isn't nearly as happy. She doesn't like her new environment and I think it's chaotic to her. I think when she's in a regular K next year it *might* get better for her, because it will be more structured, this class seems to have constant hiccups in the schedule. She also knows when the other kids don't understand why she's upset. I wonder what the kids say to her when I'm not around, 'cause the K teacher made the comment to me that she's gonna have to get more verbal, as if Allie chooses to not know how to speak to others. My thought is that you do what's best for your daughter and the rest of the people can just deal with it. Honestly, I think people who are so against their kids being with other kids with disabilities are probably fighting the feelings we sometimes have when we aren't accepting of others. Before Allie was diagnosed I was the worst. I hated being around people who where different and saw them as defective. Now I can see that being around older kids with disabilities aren't the disaster people say. A child in a disabled class might certainly miss out on some of the social aspects of a general ed -- like being made fun of, learning dirty words, and how to be the target. Being in special ed they see other kids with struggles but intelligence. Sure, they may see more behaviors deemed inappropriate, but it's been my observation that kids with autism around typical kids are still gonna do what they're gonna do, only be shamed about it. My Allie didn't start banging her head until she was in this blended environment. She never banged her head in the autism class. She rarely screamed and fell out in her ASD class, but this year it's a constant battle. Last year the other kids understood when she was upset and tried to comfort her. This year they all look at her like she's nuts. I just had a bitter argument with my uncle last weekend over this very thing. The fact is, many people, with or without special ed kids, still have a long way to go in acceptance of all people. I'm also having to learn that as much as I love my uncle, he's not gonna see the trees for the forest blinding his view. Learning we have to do what's best for our kids in spite of other's criticism is hard, but freeing to come to terms with. It would sure be nice to have friends and family on our team, but it's much nicer to know we're doing the right thing for our kids, regardless of their ignorant thoughts. HTH, Debi Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 6, 2005 Report Share Posted February 6, 2005 Diane, I like the answer your daughter gave, she thinks those " professionals " are bunch of nuts, lol! When Allie was about to go into Child Find from Early Intervention, I had parents telling me time and time again that sending Allie to a school exclusively for disabled students was the worst mistake I could make for Allie. They said she wouldn't learn how to be " normal " . Well, after sending her there, I realize it was the best decision I ever made for her. She LOVED that school. She was in special autism classes just for students with autism. They had super structure, visual aids everywhere, and nearly 1:1 ratio of professionals to students. She could not wait to get to school each morning and would walk in the door with such excitement. The staff loved her and everyone knew who Allie was. As she would walk to class everyone who passed would say, " Hello, Allie! " and she would say, " Hello, Allie! " back to them. They loved it and would laugh and then she would laugh, seemingly proud to have been so funny. This year Allie is in a mixed setting. Her receptive skills have gone through the roof, but she isn't nearly as happy. She doesn't like her new environment and I think it's chaotic to her. I think when she's in a regular K next year it *might* get better for her, because it will be more structured, this class seems to have constant hiccups in the schedule. She also knows when the other kids don't understand why she's upset. I wonder what the kids say to her when I'm not around, 'cause the K teacher made the comment to me that she's gonna have to get more verbal, as if Allie chooses to not know how to speak to others. My thought is that you do what's best for your daughter and the rest of the people can just deal with it. Honestly, I think people who are so against their kids being with other kids with disabilities are probably fighting the feelings we sometimes have when we aren't accepting of others. Before Allie was diagnosed I was the worst. I hated being around people who where different and saw them as defective. Now I can see that being around older kids with disabilities aren't the disaster people say. A child in a disabled class might certainly miss out on some of the social aspects of a general ed -- like being made fun of, learning dirty words, and how to be the target. Being in special ed they see other kids with struggles but intelligence. Sure, they may see more behaviors deemed inappropriate, but it's been my observation that kids with autism around typical kids are still gonna do what they're gonna do, only be shamed about it. My Allie didn't start banging her head until she was in this blended environment. She never banged her head in the autism class. She rarely screamed and fell out in her ASD class, but this year it's a constant battle. Last year the other kids understood when she was upset and tried to comfort her. This year they all look at her like she's nuts. I just had a bitter argument with my uncle last weekend over this very thing. The fact is, many people, with or without special ed kids, still have a long way to go in acceptance of all people. I'm also having to learn that as much as I love my uncle, he's not gonna see the trees for the forest blinding his view. Learning we have to do what's best for our kids in spite of other's criticism is hard, but freeing to come to terms with. It would sure be nice to have friends and family on our team, but it's much nicer to know we're doing the right thing for our kids, regardless of their ignorant thoughts. HTH, Debi Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 6, 2005 Report Share Posted February 6, 2005 Very good philosophy Debi! I do not fault anyone who whats to use " inclusion " or " self contained special ed. " However, I personally feel that your child needs to be in a class were they beel " safe, accepted, and competent " . If the NT classrooms are too confusing and overwhelming, they will feel anxious, insecure and incompetent. When the child feels safe, accepted and competent, they grow and learn, and build self-esteem. Bill > > Diane, I like the answer your daughter gave, she thinks those > " professionals " are bunch of nuts, lol! When Allie was about to go > into Child Find from Early Intervention, I had parents telling me time > and time again that sending Allie to a school exclusively for disabled > students was the worst mistake I could make for Allie. They said she > wouldn't learn how to be " normal " . Well, after sending her there, I > realize it was the best decision I ever made for her. She LOVED that > school. She was in special autism classes just for students with > autism. They had super structure, visual aids everywhere, and nearly > 1:1 ratio of professionals to students. She could not wait to get to > school each morning and would walk in the door with such excitement. > The staff loved her and everyone knew who Allie was. As she would walk > to class everyone who passed would say, " Hello, Allie! " and she would > say, " Hello, Allie! " back to them. They loved it and would laugh and > then she would laugh, seemingly proud to have been so funny. > > This year Allie is in a mixed setting. Her receptive skills have gone > through the roof, but she isn't nearly as happy. She doesn't like her > new environment and I think it's chaotic to her. I think when she's in > a regular K next year it *might* get better for her, because it will > be more structured, this class seems to have constant hiccups in the > schedule. She also knows when the other kids don't understand why > she's upset. I wonder what the kids say to her when I'm not around, > 'cause the K teacher made the comment to me that she's gonna have to > get more verbal, as if Allie chooses to not know how to speak to others. > > My thought is that you do what's best for your daughter and the rest > of the people can just deal with it. Honestly, I think people who are > so against their kids being with other kids with disabilities are > probably fighting the feelings we sometimes have when we aren't > accepting of others. Before Allie was diagnosed I was the worst. I > hated being around people who where different and saw them as > defective. Now I can see that being around older kids with > disabilities aren't the disaster people say. A child in a disabled > class might certainly miss out on some of the social aspects of a > general ed -- like being made fun of, learning dirty words, and how to > be the target. > > Being in special ed they see other kids with struggles but > intelligence. Sure, they may see more behaviors deemed inappropriate, > but it's been my observation that kids with autism around typical kids > are still gonna do what they're gonna do, only be shamed about it. My > Allie didn't start banging her head until she was in this blended > environment. She never banged her head in the autism class. She rarely > screamed and fell out in her ASD class, but this year it's a constant > battle. Last year the other kids understood when she was upset and > tried to comfort her. This year they all look at her like she's nuts. > > I just had a bitter argument with my uncle last weekend over this very > thing. The fact is, many people, with or without special ed kids, > still have a long way to go in acceptance of all people. I'm also > having to learn that as much as I love my uncle, he's not gonna see > the trees for the forest blinding his view. Learning we have to do > what's best for our kids in spite of other's criticism is hard, but > freeing to come to terms with. It would sure be nice to have friends > and family on our team, but it's much nicer to know we're doing the > right thing for our kids, regardless of their ignorant thoughts. > > HTH, > Debi Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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