Guest guest Posted September 28, 2004 Report Share Posted September 28, 2004 yes ashok but don't the animals have a right of existence the same as us??? We wish you a very happy day L/M Prasad (lp1960@...) Re: Re: [KIndleLife] naro kunjara ? hey Kishore, the answer is plain and simple--- let us worry about fellow human beings first before we start worrying about animals ) sincerely, ashok 1984 Shah wrote: You are absolutely right, Malini, It is indeed a dilemma which requires great deliberation. There is no right or wrong answer. A similar situation has arisen in the AIIMS. They have concocted a vaccine which could be effective against the HIV virus and its various mutations. However, three years ago, Maneka Gandhi, as a minister, had prohibited animal, especially animal testing. Since three years, this vaccine could not be tested hence its use in human beings cannot be done, because some rule does not want to hurt innocent animals. Recently, the government has relaxed this rule and probably testing will proceed under controls. But the point to be pondered here is " Should we allow the deliberate infection of animals for the betterment of mankind " In the process many animals are going to die or suffer. However, the benefit to the human race will be great. Also note that no in vitro testing can be done of this vaccine. Kishore Shah 1974 RE: Re: [KIndleLife] naro kunjara ? > I have been reading the interesting responses. none of these actually came > up in the ethical discussion. Shows how fertile the minds of mgmis'ians' is. > the point being what is correct what is not. if u said blow up the guy, then > would u do it if the guy was your son? so there is no ight or wrong in this > world. all is relative. you follow the rules of society at that time. if > there was no bad there would be no good. if there ws no all there would be > no short. have a think... > Malini --- This is a genuine mail from KS. Always check this certificate before opening any attachments. Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.760 / Virus Database: 509 - Release Date: 10-09-04 ------------------------------ Website: www.mgims.org ------------------------------ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 28, 2004 Report Share Posted September 28, 2004 yes ashok but don't the animals have a right of existence the same as us??? We wish you a very happy day L/M Prasad (lp1960@...) Re: Re: [KIndleLife] naro kunjara ? hey Kishore, the answer is plain and simple--- let us worry about fellow human beings first before we start worrying about animals ) sincerely, ashok 1984 Shah wrote: You are absolutely right, Malini, It is indeed a dilemma which requires great deliberation. There is no right or wrong answer. A similar situation has arisen in the AIIMS. They have concocted a vaccine which could be effective against the HIV virus and its various mutations. However, three years ago, Maneka Gandhi, as a minister, had prohibited animal, especially animal testing. Since three years, this vaccine could not be tested hence its use in human beings cannot be done, because some rule does not want to hurt innocent animals. Recently, the government has relaxed this rule and probably testing will proceed under controls. But the point to be pondered here is " Should we allow the deliberate infection of animals for the betterment of mankind " In the process many animals are going to die or suffer. However, the benefit to the human race will be great. Also note that no in vitro testing can be done of this vaccine. Kishore Shah 1974 RE: Re: [KIndleLife] naro kunjara ? > I have been reading the interesting responses. none of these actually came > up in the ethical discussion. Shows how fertile the minds of mgmis'ians' is. > the point being what is correct what is not. if u said blow up the guy, then > would u do it if the guy was your son? so there is no ight or wrong in this > world. all is relative. you follow the rules of society at that time. if > there was no bad there would be no good. if there ws no all there would be > no short. have a think... > Malini --- This is a genuine mail from KS. Always check this certificate before opening any attachments. Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.760 / Virus Database: 509 - Release Date: 10-09-04 ------------------------------ Website: www.mgims.org ------------------------------ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 28, 2004 Report Share Posted September 28, 2004 yes ashok but don't the animals have a right of existence the same as us??? We wish you a very happy day L/M Prasad (lp1960@...) Re: Re: [KIndleLife] naro kunjara ? hey Kishore, the answer is plain and simple--- let us worry about fellow human beings first before we start worrying about animals ) sincerely, ashok 1984 Shah wrote: You are absolutely right, Malini, It is indeed a dilemma which requires great deliberation. There is no right or wrong answer. A similar situation has arisen in the AIIMS. They have concocted a vaccine which could be effective against the HIV virus and its various mutations. However, three years ago, Maneka Gandhi, as a minister, had prohibited animal, especially animal testing. Since three years, this vaccine could not be tested hence its use in human beings cannot be done, because some rule does not want to hurt innocent animals. Recently, the government has relaxed this rule and probably testing will proceed under controls. But the point to be pondered here is " Should we allow the deliberate infection of animals for the betterment of mankind " In the process many animals are going to die or suffer. However, the benefit to the human race will be great. Also note that no in vitro testing can be done of this vaccine. Kishore Shah 1974 RE: Re: [KIndleLife] naro kunjara ? > I have been reading the interesting responses. none of these actually came > up in the ethical discussion. Shows how fertile the minds of mgmis'ians' is. > the point being what is correct what is not. if u said blow up the guy, then > would u do it if the guy was your son? so there is no ight or wrong in this > world. all is relative. you follow the rules of society at that time. if > there was no bad there would be no good. if there ws no all there would be > no short. have a think... > Malini --- This is a genuine mail from KS. Always check this certificate before opening any attachments. Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.760 / Virus Database: 509 - Release Date: 10-09-04 ------------------------------ Website: www.mgims.org ------------------------------ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 28, 2004 Report Share Posted September 28, 2004 and plants too --- malini.... however don't humans come first ?? one day i know i will become vegetarian - the process will be effortless - however i have not yet achieved the goal of treating all humans with respect and i have to pay back to the society big time...on my long to do list !! love your active participation.... malini .... : )) ashok ' 84 lprasad wrote: yes ashok but don't the animals have a right of existence the same as us??? We wish you a very happy day L/M Prasad (lp1960@...) Re: Re: [KIndleLife] naro kunjara ? hey Kishore, the answer is plain and simple--- let us worry about fellow human beings first before we start worrying about animals ) sincerely, ashok 1984 Shah wrote: You are absolutely right, Malini, It is indeed a dilemma which requires great deliberation. There is no right or wrong answer. A similar situation has arisen in the AIIMS. They have concocted a vaccine which could be effective against the HIV virus and its various mutations. However, three years ago, Maneka Gandhi, as a minister, had prohibited animal, especially animal testing. Since three years, this vaccine could not be tested hence its use in human beings cannot be done, because some rule does not want to hurt innocent animals. Recently, the government has relaxed this rule and probably testing will proceed under controls. But the point to be pondered here is " Should we allow the deliberate infection of animals for the betterment of mankind " In the process many animals are going to die or suffer. However, the benefit to the human race will be great. Also note that no in vitro testing can be done of this vaccine. Kishore Shah 1974 RE: Re: [KIndleLife] naro kunjara ? > I have been reading the interesting responses. none of these actually came > up in the ethical discussion. Shows how fertile the minds of mgmis'ians' is. > the point being what is correct what is not. if u said blow up the guy, then > would u do it if the guy was your son? so there is no ight or wrong in this > world. all is relative. you follow the rules of society at that time. if > there was no bad there would be no good. if there ws no all there would be > no short. have a think... > Malini --- This is a genuine mail from KS. Always check this certificate before opening any attachments. Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.760 / Virus Database: 509 - Release Date: 10-09-04 ------------------------------ Website: www.mgims.org ------------------------------ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 28, 2004 Report Share Posted September 28, 2004 and plants too --- malini.... however don't humans come first ?? one day i know i will become vegetarian - the process will be effortless - however i have not yet achieved the goal of treating all humans with respect and i have to pay back to the society big time...on my long to do list !! love your active participation.... malini .... : )) ashok ' 84 lprasad wrote: yes ashok but don't the animals have a right of existence the same as us??? We wish you a very happy day L/M Prasad (lp1960@...) Re: Re: [KIndleLife] naro kunjara ? hey Kishore, the answer is plain and simple--- let us worry about fellow human beings first before we start worrying about animals ) sincerely, ashok 1984 Shah wrote: You are absolutely right, Malini, It is indeed a dilemma which requires great deliberation. There is no right or wrong answer. A similar situation has arisen in the AIIMS. They have concocted a vaccine which could be effective against the HIV virus and its various mutations. However, three years ago, Maneka Gandhi, as a minister, had prohibited animal, especially animal testing. Since three years, this vaccine could not be tested hence its use in human beings cannot be done, because some rule does not want to hurt innocent animals. Recently, the government has relaxed this rule and probably testing will proceed under controls. But the point to be pondered here is " Should we allow the deliberate infection of animals for the betterment of mankind " In the process many animals are going to die or suffer. However, the benefit to the human race will be great. Also note that no in vitro testing can be done of this vaccine. Kishore Shah 1974 RE: Re: [KIndleLife] naro kunjara ? > I have been reading the interesting responses. none of these actually came > up in the ethical discussion. Shows how fertile the minds of mgmis'ians' is. > the point being what is correct what is not. if u said blow up the guy, then > would u do it if the guy was your son? so there is no ight or wrong in this > world. all is relative. you follow the rules of society at that time. if > there was no bad there would be no good. if there ws no all there would be > no short. have a think... > Malini --- This is a genuine mail from KS. Always check this certificate before opening any attachments. Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.760 / Virus Database: 509 - Release Date: 10-09-04 ------------------------------ Website: www.mgims.org ------------------------------ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 28, 2004 Report Share Posted September 28, 2004 and plants too --- malini.... however don't humans come first ?? one day i know i will become vegetarian - the process will be effortless - however i have not yet achieved the goal of treating all humans with respect and i have to pay back to the society big time...on my long to do list !! love your active participation.... malini .... : )) ashok ' 84 lprasad wrote: yes ashok but don't the animals have a right of existence the same as us??? We wish you a very happy day L/M Prasad (lp1960@...) Re: Re: [KIndleLife] naro kunjara ? hey Kishore, the answer is plain and simple--- let us worry about fellow human beings first before we start worrying about animals ) sincerely, ashok 1984 Shah wrote: You are absolutely right, Malini, It is indeed a dilemma which requires great deliberation. There is no right or wrong answer. A similar situation has arisen in the AIIMS. They have concocted a vaccine which could be effective against the HIV virus and its various mutations. However, three years ago, Maneka Gandhi, as a minister, had prohibited animal, especially animal testing. Since three years, this vaccine could not be tested hence its use in human beings cannot be done, because some rule does not want to hurt innocent animals. Recently, the government has relaxed this rule and probably testing will proceed under controls. But the point to be pondered here is " Should we allow the deliberate infection of animals for the betterment of mankind " In the process many animals are going to die or suffer. However, the benefit to the human race will be great. Also note that no in vitro testing can be done of this vaccine. Kishore Shah 1974 RE: Re: [KIndleLife] naro kunjara ? > I have been reading the interesting responses. none of these actually came > up in the ethical discussion. Shows how fertile the minds of mgmis'ians' is. > the point being what is correct what is not. if u said blow up the guy, then > would u do it if the guy was your son? so there is no ight or wrong in this > world. all is relative. you follow the rules of society at that time. if > there was no bad there would be no good. if there ws no all there would be > no short. have a think... > Malini --- This is a genuine mail from KS. Always check this certificate before opening any attachments. Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.760 / Virus Database: 509 - Release Date: 10-09-04 ------------------------------ Website: www.mgims.org ------------------------------ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 28, 2004 Report Share Posted September 28, 2004 What is this title naro kunjara ? do you really want to say Naro va Kunjaro va ? It was in mahabharata when Dronacharya asked Yudishthir whether Ashwatthama was dead he replies yes and then softly almost to himself says the above famous words. Charusmita 1986. lprasad wrote: yes ashok but don't the animals have a right of existence the same as us??? We wish you a very happy day L/M Prasad (lp1960@...) Re: Re: [KIndleLife] naro kunjara ? hey Kishore, the answer is plain and simple--- let us worry about fellow human beings first before we start worrying about animals ) sincerely, ashok 1984 Shah wrote: You are absolutely right, Malini, It is indeed a dilemma which requires great deliberation. There is no right or wrong answer. A similar situation has arisen in the AIIMS. They have concocted a vaccine which could be effective against the HIV virus and its various mutations. However, three years ago, Maneka Gandhi, as a minister, had prohibited animal, especially animal testing. Since three years, this vaccine could not be tested hence its use in human beings cannot be done, because some rule does not want to hurt innocent animals. Recently, the government has relaxed this rule and probably testing will proceed under controls. But the point to be pondered here is " Should we allow the deliberate infection of animals for the betterment of mankind " In the process many animals are going to die or suffer. However, the benefit to the human race will be great. Also note that no in vitro testing can be done of this vaccine. Kishore Shah 1974 RE: Re: [KIndleLife] naro kunjara ? > I have been reading the interesting responses. none of these actually came > up in the ethical discussion. Shows how fertile the minds of mgmis'ians' is. > the point being what is correct what is not. if u said blow up the guy, then > would u do it if the guy was your son? so there is no ight or wrong in this > world. all is relative. you follow the rules of society at that time. if > there was no bad there would be no good. if there ws no all there would be > no short. have a think... > Malini --- This is a genuine mail from KS. Always check this certificate before opening any attachments. Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.760 / Virus Database: 509 - Release Date: 10-09-04 ------------------------------ Website: www.mgims.org ------------------------------ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 28, 2004 Report Share Posted September 28, 2004 What is this title naro kunjara ? do you really want to say Naro va Kunjaro va ? It was in mahabharata when Dronacharya asked Yudishthir whether Ashwatthama was dead he replies yes and then softly almost to himself says the above famous words. Charusmita 1986. lprasad wrote: yes ashok but don't the animals have a right of existence the same as us??? We wish you a very happy day L/M Prasad (lp1960@...) Re: Re: [KIndleLife] naro kunjara ? hey Kishore, the answer is plain and simple--- let us worry about fellow human beings first before we start worrying about animals ) sincerely, ashok 1984 Shah wrote: You are absolutely right, Malini, It is indeed a dilemma which requires great deliberation. There is no right or wrong answer. A similar situation has arisen in the AIIMS. They have concocted a vaccine which could be effective against the HIV virus and its various mutations. However, three years ago, Maneka Gandhi, as a minister, had prohibited animal, especially animal testing. Since three years, this vaccine could not be tested hence its use in human beings cannot be done, because some rule does not want to hurt innocent animals. Recently, the government has relaxed this rule and probably testing will proceed under controls. But the point to be pondered here is " Should we allow the deliberate infection of animals for the betterment of mankind " In the process many animals are going to die or suffer. However, the benefit to the human race will be great. Also note that no in vitro testing can be done of this vaccine. Kishore Shah 1974 RE: Re: [KIndleLife] naro kunjara ? > I have been reading the interesting responses. none of these actually came > up in the ethical discussion. Shows how fertile the minds of mgmis'ians' is. > the point being what is correct what is not. if u said blow up the guy, then > would u do it if the guy was your son? so there is no ight or wrong in this > world. all is relative. you follow the rules of society at that time. if > there was no bad there would be no good. if there ws no all there would be > no short. have a think... > Malini --- This is a genuine mail from KS. Always check this certificate before opening any attachments. Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.760 / Virus Database: 509 - Release Date: 10-09-04 ------------------------------ Website: www.mgims.org ------------------------------ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 28, 2004 Report Share Posted September 28, 2004 looks like you tuned in late...if interested please go back to the first mail ashok ' 84 ) charusmita hawaldar wrote: What is this title naro kunjara ? do you really want to say Naro va Kunjaro va ? It was in mahabharata when Dronacharya asked Yudishthir whether Ashwatthama was dead he replies yes and then softly almost to himself says the above famous words. Charusmita 1986. lprasad wrote: yes ashok but don't the animals have a right of existence the same as us??? We wish you a very happy day L/M Prasad (lp1960@...) Re: Re: [KIndleLife] naro kunjara ? hey Kishore, the answer is plain and simple--- let us worry about fellow human beings first before we start worrying about animals ) sincerely, ashok 1984 Shah wrote: You are absolutely right, Malini, It is indeed a dilemma which requires great deliberation. There is no right or wrong answer. A similar situation has arisen in the AIIMS. They have concocted a vaccine which could be effective against the HIV virus and its various mutations. However, three years ago, Maneka Gandhi, as a minister, had prohibited animal, especially animal testing. Since three years, this vaccine could not be tested hence its use in human beings cannot be done, because some rule does not want to hurt innocent animals. Recently, the government has relaxed this rule and probably testing will proceed under controls. But the point to be pondered here is " Should we allow the deliberate infection of animals for the betterment of mankind " In the process many animals are going to die or suffer. However, the benefit to the human race will be great. Also note that no in vitro testing can be done of this vaccine. Kishore Shah 1974 RE: Re: [KIndleLife] naro kunjara ? > I have been reading the interesting responses. none of these actually came > up in the ethical discussion. Shows how fertile the minds of mgmis'ians' is. > the point being what is correct what is not. if u said blow up the guy, then > would u do it if the guy was your son? so there is no ight or wrong in this > world. all is relative. you follow the rules of society at that time. if > there was no bad there would be no good. if there ws no all there would be > no short. have a think... > Malini --- This is a genuine mail from KS. Always check this certificate before opening any attachments. Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.760 / Virus Database: 509 - Release Date: 10-09-04 ------------------------------ Website: www.mgims.org ------------------------------ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 28, 2004 Report Share Posted September 28, 2004 looks like you tuned in late...if interested please go back to the first mail ashok ' 84 ) charusmita hawaldar wrote: What is this title naro kunjara ? do you really want to say Naro va Kunjaro va ? It was in mahabharata when Dronacharya asked Yudishthir whether Ashwatthama was dead he replies yes and then softly almost to himself says the above famous words. Charusmita 1986. lprasad wrote: yes ashok but don't the animals have a right of existence the same as us??? We wish you a very happy day L/M Prasad (lp1960@...) Re: Re: [KIndleLife] naro kunjara ? hey Kishore, the answer is plain and simple--- let us worry about fellow human beings first before we start worrying about animals ) sincerely, ashok 1984 Shah wrote: You are absolutely right, Malini, It is indeed a dilemma which requires great deliberation. There is no right or wrong answer. A similar situation has arisen in the AIIMS. They have concocted a vaccine which could be effective against the HIV virus and its various mutations. However, three years ago, Maneka Gandhi, as a minister, had prohibited animal, especially animal testing. Since three years, this vaccine could not be tested hence its use in human beings cannot be done, because some rule does not want to hurt innocent animals. Recently, the government has relaxed this rule and probably testing will proceed under controls. But the point to be pondered here is " Should we allow the deliberate infection of animals for the betterment of mankind " In the process many animals are going to die or suffer. However, the benefit to the human race will be great. Also note that no in vitro testing can be done of this vaccine. Kishore Shah 1974 RE: Re: [KIndleLife] naro kunjara ? > I have been reading the interesting responses. none of these actually came > up in the ethical discussion. Shows how fertile the minds of mgmis'ians' is. > the point being what is correct what is not. if u said blow up the guy, then > would u do it if the guy was your son? so there is no ight or wrong in this > world. all is relative. you follow the rules of society at that time. if > there was no bad there would be no good. if there ws no all there would be > no short. have a think... > Malini --- This is a genuine mail from KS. Always check this certificate before opening any attachments. Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.760 / Virus Database: 509 - Release Date: 10-09-04 ------------------------------ Website: www.mgims.org ------------------------------ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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