Guest guest Posted November 27, 2011 Report Share Posted November 27, 2011 Hi Troops I bit the bullet and finally started oral chelation on me this weekend. Apart from feeling full of capsules I don;t notice any difference at all, I was so worried it was going to make me feel poorly, silly girl sahould have done it ages ago. Or maybe because I started and stopped (TD DMPS) and then went through the hump with no chelation (don't ever do this, its not pretty) that I am in a better place. I think the DMSA (?anti viral) has brought out a lingering throat bug but I feel better for it coming out, not sore just cruddy. I think all the vits keep me awake first night, I feel like I will want to sleep for a week after this. Sambucus working wonders on throat. Will try and go again next weekend, I want to get to 150 with Sam, who is cool as a cucumber and has had large bar of glaxay (stolen) without any behavioural bad stuff Mandi x Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 27, 2011 Report Share Posted November 27, 2011 Well done Mandi. Can't help thinking loads of parents will follow you with this one. I think its good to do the stuff on yourself as it give clues to the effects. This is one of main reasons I'm doing yasko alongside kids - if finances continue to allow. Way to go girl!Alison R Hi Troops I bit the bullet and finally started oral chelation on me this weekend. Apart from feeling full of capsules I don;t notice any difference at all, I was so worried it was going to make me feel poorly, silly girl sahould have done it ages ago. Or maybe because I started and stopped (TD DMPS) and then went through the hump with no chelation (don't ever do this, its not pretty) that I am in a better place. I think the DMSA (?anti viral) has brought out a lingering throat bug but I feel better for it coming out, not sore just cruddy. I think all the vits keep me awake first night, I feel like I will want to sleep for a week after this. Sambucus working wonders on throat. Will try and go again next weekend, I want to get to 150 with Sam, who is cool as a cucumber and has had large bar of glaxay (stolen) without any behavioural bad stuff Mandi x Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 27, 2011 Report Share Posted November 27, 2011 Well done Mandi. Can't help thinking loads of parents will follow you with this one. I think its good to do the stuff on yourself as it give clues to the effects. This is one of main reasons I'm doing yasko alongside kids - if finances continue to allow. Way to go girl!Alison R Hi Troops I bit the bullet and finally started oral chelation on me this weekend. Apart from feeling full of capsules I don;t notice any difference at all, I was so worried it was going to make me feel poorly, silly girl sahould have done it ages ago. Or maybe because I started and stopped (TD DMPS) and then went through the hump with no chelation (don't ever do this, its not pretty) that I am in a better place. I think the DMSA (?anti viral) has brought out a lingering throat bug but I feel better for it coming out, not sore just cruddy. I think all the vits keep me awake first night, I feel like I will want to sleep for a week after this. Sambucus working wonders on throat. Will try and go again next weekend, I want to get to 150 with Sam, who is cool as a cucumber and has had large bar of glaxay (stolen) without any behavioural bad stuff Mandi x Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 28, 2011 Report Share Posted November 28, 2011 Is DMSA anit-viral also then? In that case can it kick up more yeast than ala and therefore be a bit more problematic to use? Janet To: Autism-Biomedical-Europe From: Mum231ASD@...Date: Sun, 27 Nov 2011 08:08:48 -0500Subject: 1st Oral Round on me Hi Troops I bit the bullet and finally started oral chelation on me this weekend. Apart from feeling full of capsules I don;t notice any difference at all, I was so worried it was going to make me feel poorly, silly girl sahould have done it ages ago. Or maybe because I started and stopped (TD DMPS) and then went through the hump with no chelation (don't ever do this, its not pretty) that I am in a better place. I think the DMSA (?anti viral) has brought out a lingering throat bug but I feel better for it coming out, not sore just cruddy. I think all the vits keep me awake first night, I feel like I will want to sleep for a week after this. Sambucus working wonders on throat. Will try and go again next weekend, I want to get to 150 with Sam, who is cool as a cucumber and has had large bar of glaxay (stolen) without any behavioural bad stuff Mandi x Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 28, 2011 Report Share Posted November 28, 2011 Out of curiousity Mandi, over the years you've been doing biomed, have you heard of many cases of losing the improvements that were initially gained with chelation? Been reading something online about gains with chelation being short-lived-got me thinking as thought the improvements were for good. Janet To: Autism-Biomedical-Europe From: Mum231ASD@...Date: Mon, 28 Nov 2011 12:01:07 -0500Subject: Re: 1st Oral Round on me For some yes so I have read, but I am still feeling fine although throat seems more sore after a sleep this afternoon, gobful of Sambucus and Oxysilver waiting for that to work now and the squits have stopped, think it was so many caps and over did the Vit C a bit Mx Is DMSA anit-viral also then? In that case can it kick up more yeast than ala and therefore be a bit more problematic to use? Janet To: Autism-Biomedical-Europe From: Mum231ASD@...Date: Sun, 27 Nov 2011 08:08:48 -0500Subject: 1st Oral Round on me Hi Troops I bit the bullet and finally started oral chelation on me this weekend. Apart from feeling full of capsules I don;t notice any difference at all, I was so worried it was going to make me feel poorly, silly girl sahould have done it ages ago. Or maybe because I started and stopped (TD DMPS) and then went through the hump with no chelation (don't ever do this, its not pretty) that I am in a better place. I think the DMSA (?anti viral) has brought out a lingering throat bug but I feel better for it coming out, not sore just cruddy. I think all the vits keep me awake first night, I feel like I will want to sleep for a week after this. Sambucus working wonders on throat. Will try and go again next weekend, I want to get to 150 with Sam, who is cool as a cucumber and has had large bar of glaxay (stolen) without any behavioural bad stuff Mandi x Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 28, 2011 Report Share Posted November 28, 2011 No and definitely not if you keep going through and past the hump, some do better on ALA only only one kid I remember very badly affected when using ALA (on AC), nobody could ever get to bottom of it. I wonder how that child is doing now, his mum passed away from cancer last year, she was the founder of National Autism Association, Jo Pike Mx PS do you mean short lived with rounds or with min of 2 years treatment? Out of curiousity Mandi, over the years you've been doing biomed, have you heard of many cases of losing the improvements that were initially gained with chelation? Been reading something online about gains with chelation being short-lived-got me thinking as thought the improvements were for good. Janet To: Autism-Biomedical-Europe From: Mum231ASD@...Date: Mon, 28 Nov 2011 12:01:07 -0500Subject: Re: 1st Oral Round on me For some yes so I have read, but I am still feeling fine although throat seems more sore after a sleep this afternoon, gobful of Sambucus and Oxysilver waiting for that to work now and the squits have stopped, think it was so many caps and over did the Vit C a bit Mx Is DMSA anit-viral also then? In that case can it kick up more yeast than ala and therefore be a bit more problematic to use? Janet To: Autism-Biomedical-Europe From: Mum231ASD@...Date: Sun, 27 Nov 2011 08:08:48 -0500Subject: 1st Oral Round on me Hi Troops I bit the bullet and finally started oral chelation on me this weekend. Apart from feeling full of capsules I don;t notice any difference at all, I was so worried it was going to make me feel poorly, silly girl sahould have done it ages ago. Or maybe because I started and stopped (TD DMPS) and then went through the hump with no chelation (don't ever do this, its not pretty) that I am in a better place. I think the DMSA (?anti viral) has brought out a lingering throat bug but I feel better for it coming out, not sore just cruddy. I think all the vits keep me awake first night, I feel like I will want to sleep for a week after this. Sambucus working wonders on throat. Will try and go again next weekend, I want to get to 150 with Sam, who is cool as a cucumber and has had large bar of glaxay (stolen) without any behavioural bad stuff Mandi x Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 29, 2011 Report Share Posted November 29, 2011 Well done Mandi, have thought about doing it myself for so long with this bloody RA, but need the funds to remove my one amalgam first. Marina xx Cenaverde, yes its expensive TA members get discount, 600 drops per bottle, I think 130 Euro's, 8 hourly is awesome. Over 24 drops per dose gave me nasty headache, stuck with 22 drops but still scarey expensive round Mandi x MandiWhere do you get the TD DMPS from? Do you need a prescription? Is it very expensive? My mum she can not fall asleep after the 3am DMSA round which is not good really. TD DMPS is every 8 hours isn't it? Kasia > > Hi Troops> > I bit the bullet and finally started oral chelation on me this weekend. > Apart from feeling full of capsules I don;t notice any difference at all, I > was so worried it was going to make me feel poorly, silly girl sahould have > done it ages ago.> > Or maybe because I started and stopped (TD DMPS) and then went through the > hump with no chelation (don't ever do this, its not pretty) that I am in a > better place. > > I think the DMSA (?anti viral) has brought out a lingering throat bug but > I feel better for it coming out, not sore just cruddy.> > I think all the vits keep me awake first night, I feel like I will want to > sleep for a week after this. Sambucus working wonders on throat.> > Will try and go again next weekend, I want to get to 150 with Sam, who is > cool as a cucumber and has had large bar of glaxay (stolen) without any > behavioural bad stuff > > Mandi x> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 29, 2011 Report Share Posted November 29, 2011 Well done Mandi, have thought about doing it myself for so long with this bloody RA, but need the funds to remove my one amalgam first. Marina xx Cenaverde, yes its expensive TA members get discount, 600 drops per bottle, I think 130 Euro's, 8 hourly is awesome. Over 24 drops per dose gave me nasty headache, stuck with 22 drops but still scarey expensive round Mandi x MandiWhere do you get the TD DMPS from? Do you need a prescription? Is it very expensive? My mum she can not fall asleep after the 3am DMSA round which is not good really. TD DMPS is every 8 hours isn't it? Kasia > > Hi Troops> > I bit the bullet and finally started oral chelation on me this weekend. > Apart from feeling full of capsules I don;t notice any difference at all, I > was so worried it was going to make me feel poorly, silly girl sahould have > done it ages ago.> > Or maybe because I started and stopped (TD DMPS) and then went through the > hump with no chelation (don't ever do this, its not pretty) that I am in a > better place. > > I think the DMSA (?anti viral) has brought out a lingering throat bug but > I feel better for it coming out, not sore just cruddy.> > I think all the vits keep me awake first night, I feel like I will want to > sleep for a week after this. Sambucus working wonders on throat.> > Will try and go again next weekend, I want to get to 150 with Sam, who is > cool as a cucumber and has had large bar of glaxay (stolen) without any > behavioural bad stuff > > Mandi x> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 29, 2011 Report Share Posted November 29, 2011 Well done Mandi, have thought about doing it myself for so long with this bloody RA, but need the funds to remove my one amalgam first. Marina xx Cenaverde, yes its expensive TA members get discount, 600 drops per bottle, I think 130 Euro's, 8 hourly is awesome. Over 24 drops per dose gave me nasty headache, stuck with 22 drops but still scarey expensive round Mandi x MandiWhere do you get the TD DMPS from? Do you need a prescription? Is it very expensive? My mum she can not fall asleep after the 3am DMSA round which is not good really. TD DMPS is every 8 hours isn't it? Kasia > > Hi Troops> > I bit the bullet and finally started oral chelation on me this weekend. > Apart from feeling full of capsules I don;t notice any difference at all, I > was so worried it was going to make me feel poorly, silly girl sahould have > done it ages ago.> > Or maybe because I started and stopped (TD DMPS) and then went through the > hump with no chelation (don't ever do this, its not pretty) that I am in a > better place. > > I think the DMSA (?anti viral) has brought out a lingering throat bug but > I feel better for it coming out, not sore just cruddy.> > I think all the vits keep me awake first night, I feel like I will want to > sleep for a week after this. Sambucus working wonders on throat.> > Will try and go again next weekend, I want to get to 150 with Sam, who is > cool as a cucumber and has had large bar of glaxay (stolen) without any > behavioural bad stuff > > Mandi x> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 29, 2011 Report Share Posted November 29, 2011 Hi Mandi, I suppose i mean either - we've found with other biomed things that any little gains just faded away and after reading what i did was wondering whether chelation was the same. Janet To: Autism-Biomedical-Europe From: Mum231ASD@...Date: Mon, 28 Nov 2011 16:01:23 -0500Subject: Re: 1st Oral Round on me No and definitely not if you keep going through and past the hump, some do better on ALA only only one kid I remember very badly affected when using ALA (on AC), nobody could ever get to bottom of it. I wonder how that child is doing now, his mum passed away from cancer last year, she was the founder of National Autism Association, Jo Pike Mx PS do you mean short lived with rounds or with min of 2 years treatment? Out of curiousity Mandi, over the years you've been doing biomed, have you heard of many cases of losing the improvements that were initially gained with chelation? Been reading something online about gains with chelation being short-lived-got me thinking as thought the improvements were for good. Janet To: Autism-Biomedical-Europe From: Mum231ASD@...Date: Mon, 28 Nov 2011 12:01:07 -0500Subject: Re: 1st Oral Round on me For some yes so I have read, but I am still feeling fine although throat seems more sore after a sleep this afternoon, gobful of Sambucus and Oxysilver waiting for that to work now and the squits have stopped, think it was so many caps and over did the Vit C a bit Mx Is DMSA anit-viral also then? In that case can it kick up more yeast than ala and therefore be a bit more problematic to use? Janet To: Autism-Biomedical-Europe From: Mum231ASD@...Date: Sun, 27 Nov 2011 08:08:48 -0500Subject: 1st Oral Round on me Hi Troops I bit the bullet and finally started oral chelation on me this weekend. Apart from feeling full of capsules I don;t notice any difference at all, I was so worried it was going to make me feel poorly, silly girl sahould have done it ages ago. Or maybe because I started and stopped (TD DMPS) and then went through the hump with no chelation (don't ever do this, its not pretty) that I am in a better place. I think the DMSA (?anti viral) has brought out a lingering throat bug but I feel better for it coming out, not sore just cruddy. I think all the vits keep me awake first night, I feel like I will want to sleep for a week after this. Sambucus working wonders on throat. Will try and go again next weekend, I want to get to 150 with Sam, who is cool as a cucumber and has had large bar of glaxay (stolen) without any behavioural bad stuff Mandi x Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 29, 2011 Report Share Posted November 29, 2011 Hi Mandi, I suppose i mean either - we've found with other biomed things that any little gains just faded away and after reading what i did was wondering whether chelation was the same. Janet To: Autism-Biomedical-Europe From: Mum231ASD@...Date: Mon, 28 Nov 2011 16:01:23 -0500Subject: Re: 1st Oral Round on me No and definitely not if you keep going through and past the hump, some do better on ALA only only one kid I remember very badly affected when using ALA (on AC), nobody could ever get to bottom of it. I wonder how that child is doing now, his mum passed away from cancer last year, she was the founder of National Autism Association, Jo Pike Mx PS do you mean short lived with rounds or with min of 2 years treatment? Out of curiousity Mandi, over the years you've been doing biomed, have you heard of many cases of losing the improvements that were initially gained with chelation? Been reading something online about gains with chelation being short-lived-got me thinking as thought the improvements were for good. Janet To: Autism-Biomedical-Europe From: Mum231ASD@...Date: Mon, 28 Nov 2011 12:01:07 -0500Subject: Re: 1st Oral Round on me For some yes so I have read, but I am still feeling fine although throat seems more sore after a sleep this afternoon, gobful of Sambucus and Oxysilver waiting for that to work now and the squits have stopped, think it was so many caps and over did the Vit C a bit Mx Is DMSA anit-viral also then? In that case can it kick up more yeast than ala and therefore be a bit more problematic to use? Janet To: Autism-Biomedical-Europe From: Mum231ASD@...Date: Sun, 27 Nov 2011 08:08:48 -0500Subject: 1st Oral Round on me Hi Troops I bit the bullet and finally started oral chelation on me this weekend. Apart from feeling full of capsules I don;t notice any difference at all, I was so worried it was going to make me feel poorly, silly girl sahould have done it ages ago. Or maybe because I started and stopped (TD DMPS) and then went through the hump with no chelation (don't ever do this, its not pretty) that I am in a better place. I think the DMSA (?anti viral) has brought out a lingering throat bug but I feel better for it coming out, not sore just cruddy. I think all the vits keep me awake first night, I feel like I will want to sleep for a week after this. Sambucus working wonders on throat. Will try and go again next weekend, I want to get to 150 with Sam, who is cool as a cucumber and has had large bar of glaxay (stolen) without any behavioural bad stuff Mandi x Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 29, 2011 Report Share Posted November 29, 2011 Hi Mandi, I suppose i mean either - we've found with other biomed things that any little gains just faded away and after reading what i did was wondering whether chelation was the same. Janet To: Autism-Biomedical-Europe From: Mum231ASD@...Date: Mon, 28 Nov 2011 16:01:23 -0500Subject: Re: 1st Oral Round on me No and definitely not if you keep going through and past the hump, some do better on ALA only only one kid I remember very badly affected when using ALA (on AC), nobody could ever get to bottom of it. I wonder how that child is doing now, his mum passed away from cancer last year, she was the founder of National Autism Association, Jo Pike Mx PS do you mean short lived with rounds or with min of 2 years treatment? Out of curiousity Mandi, over the years you've been doing biomed, have you heard of many cases of losing the improvements that were initially gained with chelation? Been reading something online about gains with chelation being short-lived-got me thinking as thought the improvements were for good. Janet To: Autism-Biomedical-Europe From: Mum231ASD@...Date: Mon, 28 Nov 2011 12:01:07 -0500Subject: Re: 1st Oral Round on me For some yes so I have read, but I am still feeling fine although throat seems more sore after a sleep this afternoon, gobful of Sambucus and Oxysilver waiting for that to work now and the squits have stopped, think it was so many caps and over did the Vit C a bit Mx Is DMSA anit-viral also then? In that case can it kick up more yeast than ala and therefore be a bit more problematic to use? Janet To: Autism-Biomedical-Europe From: Mum231ASD@...Date: Sun, 27 Nov 2011 08:08:48 -0500Subject: 1st Oral Round on me Hi Troops I bit the bullet and finally started oral chelation on me this weekend. Apart from feeling full of capsules I don;t notice any difference at all, I was so worried it was going to make me feel poorly, silly girl sahould have done it ages ago. Or maybe because I started and stopped (TD DMPS) and then went through the hump with no chelation (don't ever do this, its not pretty) that I am in a better place. I think the DMSA (?anti viral) has brought out a lingering throat bug but I feel better for it coming out, not sore just cruddy. I think all the vits keep me awake first night, I feel like I will want to sleep for a week after this. Sambucus working wonders on throat. Will try and go again next weekend, I want to get to 150 with Sam, who is cool as a cucumber and has had large bar of glaxay (stolen) without any behavioural bad stuff Mandi x Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 29, 2011 Report Share Posted November 29, 2011 Think i understand the stall on bits i've come across - its good to hear if gains are seen they'll stay if protocol done properly. Janet To: Autism-Biomedical-Europe From: Mum231ASD@...Date: Tue, 29 Nov 2011 13:41:19 -0500Subject: Re: 1st Oral Round on me not in my experience or reading where people keep going through the hump, the hump/stall can look like a regression but if you understand what the hump is then it makes sense and you keep going. Bear in mind I have been reading chelation for 11 years and never understood the hump until Andy did the conference in London\i csam try sand explain if you want me too, its hard, you needs to see my hand movements lol Mandi x Hi Mandi, I suppose i mean either - we've found with other biomed things that any little gains just faded away and after reading what i did was wondering whether chelation was the same. Janet To: Autism-Biomedical-Europe From: Mum231ASD@...Date: Mon, 28 Nov 2011 16:01:23 -0500Subject: Re: 1st Oral Round on me No and definitely not if you keep going through and past the hump, some do better on ALA only only one kid I remember very badly affected when using ALA (on AC), nobody could ever get to bottom of it. I wonder how that child is doing now, his mum passed away from cancer last year, she was the founder of National Autism Association, Jo Pike Mx PS do you mean short lived with rounds or with min of 2 years treatment? Out of curiousity Mandi, over the years you've been doing biomed, have you heard of many cases of losing the improvements that were initially gained with chelation? Been reading something online about gains with chelation being short-lived-got me thinking as thought the improvements were for good. Janet To: Autism-Biomedical-Europe From: Mum231ASD@...Date: Mon, 28 Nov 2011 12:01:07 -0500Subject: Re: 1st Oral Round on me For some yes so I have read, but I am still feeling fine although throat seems more sore after a sleep this afternoon, gobful of Sambucus and Oxysilver waiting for that to work now and the squits have stopped, think it was so many caps and over did the Vit C a bit Mx Is DMSA anit-viral also then? In that case can it kick up more yeast than ala and therefore be a bit more problematic to use? Janet To: Autism-Biomedical-Europe From: Mum231ASD@...Date: Sun, 27 Nov 2011 08:08:48 -0500Subject: 1st Oral Round on me Hi Troops I bit the bullet and finally started oral chelation on me this weekend. Apart from feeling full of capsules I don;t notice any difference at all, I was so worried it was going to make me feel poorly, silly girl sahould have done it ages ago. Or maybe because I started and stopped (TD DMPS) and then went through the hump with no chelation (don't ever do this, its not pretty) that I am in a better place. I think the DMSA (?anti viral) has brought out a lingering throat bug but I feel better for it coming out, not sore just cruddy. I think all the vits keep me awake first night, I feel like I will want to sleep for a week after this. Sambucus working wonders on throat. Will try and go again next weekend, I want to get to 150 with Sam, who is cool as a cucumber and has had large bar of glaxay (stolen) without any behavioural bad stuff Mandi x Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 29, 2011 Report Share Posted November 29, 2011 Good luck with this Mandi, hope your feeling like a new woman in no time, mind you I was quite fond of the old one, ha. Vicky 1st Oral Round on me Hi Troops I bit the bullet and finally started oral chelation on me this weekend. Apart from feeling full of capsules I don;t notice any difference at all, I was so worried it was going to make me feel poorly, silly girl sahould have done it ages ago. Or maybe because I started and stopped (TD DMPS) and then went through the hump with no chelation (don't ever do this, its not pretty) that I am in a better place. I think the DMSA (?anti viral) has brought out a lingering throat bug but I feel better for it coming out, not sore just cruddy. I think all the vits keep me awake first night, I feel like I will want to sleep for a week after this. Sambucus working wonders on throat. Will try and go again next weekend, I want to get to 150 with Sam, who is cool as a cucumber and has had large bar of glaxay (stolen) without any behavioural bad stuff Mandi x Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 29, 2011 Report Share Posted November 29, 2011 Yeah, the old one was great - here's hoping the new one's even better! Margaret > > Good luck with this Mandi, hope your feeling like a new woman in no time, mind you I was quite fond of the old one, ha. > Vicky > > > > > > > > 1st Oral Round on me > > > > > > > Hi Troops > > > > I bit the bullet and finally started oral chelation on me this weekend. Apart from feeling full of capsules I don;t notice any difference at all, I was so worried it was going to make me feel poorly, silly girl sahould have done it ages ago. > > > > Or maybe because I started and stopped (TD DMPS) and then went through the hump with no chelation (don't ever do this, its not pretty) that I am in a better place. > > > > I think the DMSA (?anti viral) has brought out a lingering throat bug but I feel better for it coming out, not sore just cruddy. > > > > I think all the vits keep me awake first night, I feel like I will want to sleep for a week after this. Sambucus working wonders on throat. > > > > Will try and go again next weekend, I want to get to 150 with Sam, who is cool as a cucumber and has had large bar of glaxay (stolen) without any behavioural bad stuff > > > > Mandi x > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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