Guest guest Posted November 9, 2011 Report Share Posted November 9, 2011 It causes reflux here, starts a week or two in every time we try and gets progressively worse. All cognitive fine, better overall apart from reflux. Natasa > > Hi, > A few people have mentioned not getting on very well with NP. Could you > please let me know how it affected you. I got my son (NT) to give it a > try and he has been having a lot of headaches and sounds like he has > been getting brain fog too....just wondering if it is the NP. I have > told him to stop taking it to see how it goes. > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 9, 2011 Report Share Posted November 9, 2011 It causes reflux here, starts a week or two in every time we try and gets progressively worse. All cognitive fine, better overall apart from reflux. Natasa > > Hi, > A few people have mentioned not getting on very well with NP. Could you > please let me know how it affected you. I got my son (NT) to give it a > try and he has been having a lot of headaches and sounds like he has > been getting brain fog too....just wondering if it is the NP. I have > told him to stop taking it to see how it goes. > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 9, 2011 Report Share Posted November 9, 2011 It causes reflux here, starts a week or two in every time we try and gets progressively worse. All cognitive fine, better overall apart from reflux. Natasa > > Hi, > A few people have mentioned not getting on very well with NP. Could you > please let me know how it affected you. I got my son (NT) to give it a > try and he has been having a lot of headaches and sounds like he has > been getting brain fog too....just wondering if it is the NP. I have > told him to stop taking it to see how it goes. > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 10, 2011 Report Share Posted November 10, 2011 We had reflux too. I wrote Dr Theo and he suggested freezing the NP. We do that now and reflux is not an issue. Anita > > > > Hi, > > A few people have mentioned not getting on very well with NP. Could > you > > please let me know how it affected you. I got my son (NT) to give it a > > try and he has been having a lot of headaches and sounds like he has > > been getting brain fog too....just wondering if it is the NP. I have > > told him to stop taking it to see how it goes. > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 10, 2011 Report Share Posted November 10, 2011 We had reflux too. I wrote Dr Theo and he suggested freezing the NP. We do that now and reflux is not an issue. Anita > > > > Hi, > > A few people have mentioned not getting on very well with NP. Could > you > > please let me know how it affected you. I got my son (NT) to give it a > > try and he has been having a lot of headaches and sounds like he has > > been getting brain fog too....just wondering if it is the NP. I have > > told him to stop taking it to see how it goes. > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 10, 2011 Report Share Posted November 10, 2011 We had reflux too. I wrote Dr Theo and he suggested freezing the NP. We do that now and reflux is not an issue. Anita > > > > Hi, > > A few people have mentioned not getting on very well with NP. Could > you > > please let me know how it affected you. I got my son (NT) to give it a > > try and he has been having a lot of headaches and sounds like he has > > been getting brain fog too....just wondering if it is the NP. I have > > told him to stop taking it to see how it goes. > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 10, 2011 Report Share Posted November 10, 2011 Thanks for the that...I will just have to keep on worrying about what might be causing his persistent headaches and brain fog then. We had reflux too. I wrote Dr Theo and he suggested freezing the NP. We do that now and reflux is not an issue. Anita > > > > Hi, > > A few people have mentioned not getting on very well with NP. Could > you > > please let me know how it affected you. I got my son (NT) to give it a > > try and he has been having a lot of headaches and sounds like he has > > been getting brain fog too....just wondering if it is the NP. I have > > told him to stop taking it to see how it goes. > > > > > > > > > No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2012.0.1869 / Virus Database: 2092/4607 - Release Date: 11/09/11 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 10, 2011 Report Share Posted November 10, 2011 , I have read somewhere about other kids having trouble with the ingredients in NP and switching to Lutimax, which is just the luteolin. I haven't used it, but there are some good reports on it. Might be worth a try? I have also read a fwe kids needing to take no-fenol with the NP? Has your son had phenol issues before? Anita > > > > > > > > Hi, > > > > A few people have mentioned not getting on very well with NP. Could > > > you > > > > please let me know how it affected you. I got my son (NT) to give it a > > > > try and he has been having a lot of headaches and sounds like he has > > > > been getting brain fog too....just wondering if it is the NP. I have > > > > told him to stop taking it to see how it goes. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > No virus found in this message. > > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com <http://www.avg.com> > > Version: 2012.0.1869 / Virus Database: 2092/4607 - Release Date: 11/09/11 > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 10, 2011 Report Share Posted November 10, 2011 , I have read somewhere about other kids having trouble with the ingredients in NP and switching to Lutimax, which is just the luteolin. I haven't used it, but there are some good reports on it. Might be worth a try? I have also read a fwe kids needing to take no-fenol with the NP? Has your son had phenol issues before? Anita > > > > > > > > Hi, > > > > A few people have mentioned not getting on very well with NP. Could > > > you > > > > please let me know how it affected you. I got my son (NT) to give it a > > > > try and he has been having a lot of headaches and sounds like he has > > > > been getting brain fog too....just wondering if it is the NP. I have > > > > told him to stop taking it to see how it goes. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > No virus found in this message. > > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com <http://www.avg.com> > > Version: 2012.0.1869 / Virus Database: 2092/4607 - Release Date: 11/09/11 > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 10, 2011 Report Share Posted November 10, 2011 , I have read somewhere about other kids having trouble with the ingredients in NP and switching to Lutimax, which is just the luteolin. I haven't used it, but there are some good reports on it. Might be worth a try? I have also read a fwe kids needing to take no-fenol with the NP? Has your son had phenol issues before? Anita > > > > > > > > Hi, > > > > A few people have mentioned not getting on very well with NP. Could > > > you > > > > please let me know how it affected you. I got my son (NT) to give it a > > > > try and he has been having a lot of headaches and sounds like he has > > > > been getting brain fog too....just wondering if it is the NP. I have > > > > told him to stop taking it to see how it goes. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > No virus found in this message. > > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com <http://www.avg.com> > > Version: 2012.0.1869 / Virus Database: 2092/4607 - Release Date: 11/09/11 > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 10, 2011 Report Share Posted November 10, 2011 Anita, this is my NT son....he has just started university and got a major migraine (these are usually food/stress triggered and involve scary stuff like tingling hand then arm then throat, loses speech ,co ordination, understanding, vision problems and massive migraine headache). I thought maybe it was stress related so sent him some adrenal support and neuro protek, his AS brother is less stressed on NP. Shortly after this he started with sharp stabbing headaches and during this feeling muddled? So I was just hoping it was a possible side effect of the NP. He has been off it since Sunday but still getting the headaches , got another migraine on Monday and had to call an ambulance as he was trying to get back from uni and could not see properly. He is 200 miles away and I am worried sick..he is trying to register with a doctor urgently. Thanks , I have read somewhere about other kids having trouble with the ingredients in NP and switching to Lutimax, which is just the luteolin. I haven't used it, but there are some good reports on it. Might be worth a try? I have also read a fwe kids needing to take no-fenol with the NP? Has your son had phenol issues before? Anita > > > > > > > > Hi, > > > > A few people have mentioned not getting on very well with NP. Could > > > you > > > > please let me know how it affected you. I got my son (NT) to give it a > > > > try and he has been having a lot of headaches and sounds like he has > > > > been getting brain fog too....just wondering if it is the NP. I have > > > > told him to stop taking it to see how it goes. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > No virus found in this message. > > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com <http://www.avg.com> > > Version: 2012.0.1869 / Virus Database: 2092/4607 - Release Date: 11/09/11 > > > No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2012.0.1869 / Virus Database: 2092/4607 - Release Date: 11/09/11 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 10, 2011 Report Share Posted November 10, 2011 was it adrenal cortex? if so my bet would be on that one causing headache Natasa > > > > > > > > > > > > Hi, > > > > > > A few people have mentioned not getting on very well with NP. > > Could > > > > > you > > > > > > please let me know how it affected you. I got my son (NT) to > > give it a > > > > > > try and he has been having a lot of headaches and sounds like > > he has > > > > > > been getting brain fog too....just wondering if it is the NP. > > I have > > > > > > told him to stop taking it to see how it goes. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > No virus found in this message. > > > > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com <http://www.avg.com> > > > > Version: 2012.0.1869 / Virus Database: 2092/4607 - Release Date: > > 11/09/11 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > No virus found in this message. > > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com <http://www.avg.com> > > Version: 2012.0.1869 / Virus Database: 2092/4607 - Release Date: 11/09/11 > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 10, 2011 Report Share Posted November 10, 2011 Dr Goyal has recommended neuroprotek for my 3 yr old son.  When I looked at it I decided against it as it is high in flavornoids. If there is a sulphation problem according to Rosemary Waring's research flavornoids supress SULT1 and SULT2 enzymes which are required for sulphation. The migraine type headaches are often associated with amines - in infants it displays as bady tumy aches and cramps but then changes to headaches around time of puberty. (FAILSAFE website has good info fact sheet on this). No fenol fixed this problem for my son and he has never had tummy ache since.  I know phenols (Including salicylates and amines are a huge problems for him as at 10 months old we did a very strict elimination diet.  When on only 10 foods he was fantastic.  When these foods were re-introduced the hyperactive and distressed behaviour returned. I understand sulphation is a problem for most with asd so it doesn't surprise me that many have reactions to NP.  We go to great lengths to make sure suppplements are flavornoid and flavour free. BWAlison Rowbotham  Anita, this is my NT son....he has just started university and got a major migraine (these are usually food/stress triggered and involve scary stuff like tingling hand then arm then throat, loses speech ,co ordination, understanding, vision problems and massive migraine headache). I thought maybe it was stress related so sent him some adrenal support and neuro protek, his AS brother is less stressed on NP. Shortly after this he started with sharp stabbing headaches and during this feeling muddled? So I was just hoping it was a possible side effect of the NP. He has been off it since Sunday but still getting the headaches , got another migraine on Monday and had to call an ambulance as he was trying to get back from uni and could not see properly. He is 200 miles away and I am worried sick..he is trying to register with a doctor urgently. Thanks  , I have read somewhere about other kids having trouble with the ingredients in NP and switching to Lutimax, which is just the luteolin. I haven't used it, but there are some good reports on it. Might be worth a try? I have also read a fwe kids needing to take no-fenol with the NP? Has your son had phenol issues before? Anita > > > > > > > > Hi, > > > > A few people have mentioned not getting on very well with NP. Could > > > you > > > > please let me know how it affected you. I got my son (NT) to give it a > > > > try and he has been having a lot of headaches and sounds like he has > > > > been getting brain fog too....just wondering if it is the NP. I have > > > > told him to stop taking it to see how it goes. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > No virus found in this message. > > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com <http://www.avg.com> > > Version: 2012.0.1869 / Virus Database: 2092/4607 - Release Date: 11/09/11 > > > No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2012.0.1869 / Virus Database: 2092/4607 - Release Date: 11/09/11 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 10, 2011 Report Share Posted November 10, 2011 Sorry I didn't realize. It all sounds awful. I would think that it's more likely the food at the uni? It is probably full of things that could trigger migraines, and his threshold might be lower with all the stress. I hope he's better very soon. Anita > > > > > > > > > > > > Hi, > > > > > > A few people have mentioned not getting on very well with NP. > > Could > > > > > you > > > > > > please let me know how it affected you. I got my son (NT) to > > give it a > > > > > > try and he has been having a lot of headaches and sounds like > > he has > > > > > > been getting brain fog too....just wondering if it is the NP. > > I have > > > > > > told him to stop taking it to see how it goes. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > No virus found in this message. > > > > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com <http://www.avg.com> > > > > Version: 2012.0.1869 / Virus Database: 2092/4607 - Release Date: > > 11/09/11 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > No virus found in this message. > > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com <http://www.avg.com> > > Version: 2012.0.1869 / Virus Database: 2092/4607 - Release Date: 11/09/11 > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 11, 2011 Report Share Posted November 11, 2011 Yes it was Natasa...but I got him to stop that about 10 days ago and the headaches continued. I am hoping these are something called cluster migraines and if so I suppose the adrenal cortex could have made them start up. Cluster migraines are usually multiple severe headaches and can last anything from a few weeks to a few months. They are common to males and start up either in autumn or spring. He is coming home this weekend and I have him booked in at the GPs on Monday. He needs a scan really. was it adrenal cortex? if so my bet would be on that one causing headache Natasa > > > > > > > > > > > > Hi, > > > > > > A few people have mentioned not getting on very well with NP. > > Could > > > > > you > > > > > > please let me know how it affected you. I got my son (NT) to > > give it a > > > > > > try and he has been having a lot of headaches and sounds like > > he has > > > > > > been getting brain fog too....just wondering if it is the NP. > > I have > > > > > > told him to stop taking it to see how it goes. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > No virus found in this message. > > > > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com <http://www.avg.com> > > > > Version: 2012.0.1869 / Virus Database: 2092/4607 - Release Date: > > 11/09/11 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > No virus found in this message. > > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com <http://www.avg.com> > > Version: 2012.0.1869 / Virus Database: 2092/4607 - Release Date: 11/09/11 > > > No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2012.0.1869 / Virus Database: 2092/4608 - Release Date: 11/10/11 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 11, 2011 Report Share Posted November 11, 2011 Yes it was Natasa...but I got him to stop that about 10 days ago and the headaches continued. I am hoping these are something called cluster migraines and if so I suppose the adrenal cortex could have made them start up. Cluster migraines are usually multiple severe headaches and can last anything from a few weeks to a few months. They are common to males and start up either in autumn or spring. He is coming home this weekend and I have him booked in at the GPs on Monday. He needs a scan really. was it adrenal cortex? if so my bet would be on that one causing headache Natasa > > > > > > > > > > > > Hi, > > > > > > A few people have mentioned not getting on very well with NP. > > Could > > > > > you > > > > > > please let me know how it affected you. I got my son (NT) to > > give it a > > > > > > try and he has been having a lot of headaches and sounds like > > he has > > > > > > been getting brain fog too....just wondering if it is the NP. > > I have > > > > > > told him to stop taking it to see how it goes. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > No virus found in this message. > > > > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com <http://www.avg.com> > > > > Version: 2012.0.1869 / Virus Database: 2092/4607 - Release Date: > > 11/09/11 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > No virus found in this message. > > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com <http://www.avg.com> > > Version: 2012.0.1869 / Virus Database: 2092/4607 - Release Date: 11/09/11 > > > No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2012.0.1869 / Virus Database: 2092/4608 - Release Date: 11/10/11 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 11, 2011 Report Share Posted November 11, 2011 Yes it was Natasa...but I got him to stop that about 10 days ago and the headaches continued. I am hoping these are something called cluster migraines and if so I suppose the adrenal cortex could have made them start up. Cluster migraines are usually multiple severe headaches and can last anything from a few weeks to a few months. They are common to males and start up either in autumn or spring. He is coming home this weekend and I have him booked in at the GPs on Monday. He needs a scan really. was it adrenal cortex? if so my bet would be on that one causing headache Natasa > > > > > > > > > > > > Hi, > > > > > > A few people have mentioned not getting on very well with NP. > > Could > > > > > you > > > > > > please let me know how it affected you. I got my son (NT) to > > give it a > > > > > > try and he has been having a lot of headaches and sounds like > > he has > > > > > > been getting brain fog too....just wondering if it is the NP. > > I have > > > > > > told him to stop taking it to see how it goes. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > No virus found in this message. > > > > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com <http://www.avg.com> > > > > Version: 2012.0.1869 / Virus Database: 2092/4607 - Release Date: > > 11/09/11 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > No virus found in this message. > > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com <http://www.avg.com> > > Version: 2012.0.1869 / Virus Database: 2092/4607 - Release Date: 11/09/11 > > > No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2012.0.1869 / Virus Database: 2092/4608 - Release Date: 11/10/11 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 11, 2011 Report Share Posted November 11, 2011 when you say start in either autumn or spring could it be triggered by allergic-like reaction? most pollen is spring/summer but could there be something that flowers twice a year in those periods? ragweed or something? The cause of cluster headaches is unknown, although it is suspected that the hypothalamus is involved. The hypothalamus is the area of the brain that influences eating and sleeping patterns, sexual activity, and many chemical and hormone functions. During cluster headaches, the area of the hypothalamus on the headache-affected side of the brain is unusually active. A number of possible cluster headache triggers have been identified. Noise, bright light, and odors, which often trigger migraines, do not appear to set of cluster headaches. Instead, severe cluster headaches may be triggered by: alcohol (many cluster headache sufferers appear to be sensitive to alcohol's effects)allergies and hay feverexposure to temperature changeshead injuriesrelaxationsmokingstress. In some instances, it appears eating specific foods triggers cluster headaches. Eggs, chocolate, and diary products have all been associated with cluster headaches.http://www.tree.com/health/types-of-headaches-cluster.aspx--- In Autism-Biomedical-Europe , and wrote:>> Yes it was Natasa...but I got him to stop that about 10 days ago and the > headaches continued. I am hoping these are something called cluster > migraines and if so I suppose the adrenal cortex could have made them > start up. Cluster migraines are usually multiple severe headaches and > can last anything from a few weeks to a few months. They are common to > males and start up either in autumn or spring.> > He is coming home this weekend and I have him booked in at the GPs on > Monday. He needs a scan really.> > > >> > was it adrenal cortex? if so my bet would be on that one causing> > headache> >> > Natasa> >> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > Hi,> > > > > > > > A few people have mentioned not getting on very well with> > NP.> > > > Could> > > > > > > you> > > > > > > > please let me know how it affected you. I got my son (NT) to> > > > give it a> > > > > > > > try and he has been having a lot of headaches and sounds> > like> > > > he has> > > > > > > > been getting brain fog too....just wondering if it is the> > NP.> > > > I have> > > > > > > > told him to stop taking it to see how it goes.> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > > No virus found in this message.> > > > > > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com <http://www.avg.com>> > > > > > Version: 2012.0.1869 / Virus Database: 2092/4607 - Release Date:> > > > 11/09/11> > > > > >> > > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > > No virus found in this message.> > > > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com <http://www.avg.com>> > > > Version: 2012.0.1869 / Virus Database: 2092/4607 - Release Date:> > 11/09/11> > > >> > >> >> > > >> > No virus found in this message.> > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com <http://www.avg.com>> > Version: 2012.0.1869 / Virus Database: 2092/4608 - Release Date: 11/10/11> >> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 11, 2011 Report Share Posted November 11, 2011 when you say start in either autumn or spring could it be triggered by allergic-like reaction? most pollen is spring/summer but could there be something that flowers twice a year in those periods? ragweed or something? The cause of cluster headaches is unknown, although it is suspected that the hypothalamus is involved. The hypothalamus is the area of the brain that influences eating and sleeping patterns, sexual activity, and many chemical and hormone functions. During cluster headaches, the area of the hypothalamus on the headache-affected side of the brain is unusually active. A number of possible cluster headache triggers have been identified. Noise, bright light, and odors, which often trigger migraines, do not appear to set of cluster headaches. Instead, severe cluster headaches may be triggered by: alcohol (many cluster headache sufferers appear to be sensitive to alcohol's effects)allergies and hay feverexposure to temperature changeshead injuriesrelaxationsmokingstress. In some instances, it appears eating specific foods triggers cluster headaches. Eggs, chocolate, and diary products have all been associated with cluster headaches.http://www.tree.com/health/types-of-headaches-cluster.aspx--- In Autism-Biomedical-Europe , and wrote:>> Yes it was Natasa...but I got him to stop that about 10 days ago and the > headaches continued. I am hoping these are something called cluster > migraines and if so I suppose the adrenal cortex could have made them > start up. Cluster migraines are usually multiple severe headaches and > can last anything from a few weeks to a few months. They are common to > males and start up either in autumn or spring.> > He is coming home this weekend and I have him booked in at the GPs on > Monday. He needs a scan really.> > > >> > was it adrenal cortex? if so my bet would be on that one causing> > headache> >> > Natasa> >> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > Hi,> > > > > > > > A few people have mentioned not getting on very well with> > NP.> > > > Could> > > > > > > you> > > > > > > > please let me know how it affected you. I got my son (NT) to> > > > give it a> > > > > > > > try and he has been having a lot of headaches and sounds> > like> > > > he has> > > > > > > > been getting brain fog too....just wondering if it is the> > NP.> > > > I have> > > > > > > > told him to stop taking it to see how it goes.> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > > No virus found in this message.> > > > > > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com <http://www.avg.com>> > > > > > Version: 2012.0.1869 / Virus Database: 2092/4607 - Release Date:> > > > 11/09/11> > > > > >> > > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > > No virus found in this message.> > > > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com <http://www.avg.com>> > > > Version: 2012.0.1869 / Virus Database: 2092/4607 - Release Date:> > 11/09/11> > > >> > >> >> > > >> > No virus found in this message.> > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com <http://www.avg.com>> > Version: 2012.0.1869 / Virus Database: 2092/4608 - Release Date: 11/10/11> >> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 11, 2011 Report Share Posted November 11, 2011 when you say start in either autumn or spring could it be triggered by allergic-like reaction? most pollen is spring/summer but could there be something that flowers twice a year in those periods? ragweed or something? The cause of cluster headaches is unknown, although it is suspected that the hypothalamus is involved. The hypothalamus is the area of the brain that influences eating and sleeping patterns, sexual activity, and many chemical and hormone functions. During cluster headaches, the area of the hypothalamus on the headache-affected side of the brain is unusually active. A number of possible cluster headache triggers have been identified. Noise, bright light, and odors, which often trigger migraines, do not appear to set of cluster headaches. Instead, severe cluster headaches may be triggered by: alcohol (many cluster headache sufferers appear to be sensitive to alcohol's effects)allergies and hay feverexposure to temperature changeshead injuriesrelaxationsmokingstress. In some instances, it appears eating specific foods triggers cluster headaches. Eggs, chocolate, and diary products have all been associated with cluster headaches.http://www.tree.com/health/types-of-headaches-cluster.aspx--- In Autism-Biomedical-Europe , and wrote:>> Yes it was Natasa...but I got him to stop that about 10 days ago and the > headaches continued. I am hoping these are something called cluster > migraines and if so I suppose the adrenal cortex could have made them > start up. Cluster migraines are usually multiple severe headaches and > can last anything from a few weeks to a few months. They are common to > males and start up either in autumn or spring.> > He is coming home this weekend and I have him booked in at the GPs on > Monday. He needs a scan really.> > > >> > was it adrenal cortex? if so my bet would be on that one causing> > headache> >> > Natasa> >> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > Hi,> > > > > > > > A few people have mentioned not getting on very well with> > NP.> > > > Could> > > > > > > you> > > > > > > > please let me know how it affected you. I got my son (NT) to> > > > give it a> > > > > > > > try and he has been having a lot of headaches and sounds> > like> > > > he has> > > > > > > > been getting brain fog too....just wondering if it is the> > NP.> > > > I have> > > > > > > > told him to stop taking it to see how it goes.> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > > No virus found in this message.> > > > > > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com <http://www.avg.com>> > > > > > Version: 2012.0.1869 / Virus Database: 2092/4607 - Release Date:> > > > 11/09/11> > > > > >> > > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > > No virus found in this message.> > > > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com <http://www.avg.com>> > > > Version: 2012.0.1869 / Virus Database: 2092/4607 - Release Date:> > 11/09/11> > > >> > >> >> > > >> > No virus found in this message.> > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com <http://www.avg.com>> > Version: 2012.0.1869 / Virus Database: 2092/4608 - Release Date: 11/10/11> >> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 11, 2011 Report Share Posted November 11, 2011 Alison, this is very interesting as my other son (AS) who is doing well on NP has started getting occasional very red face (used to get the red ears years ago). I give him trienza and every alternate dose some no fenol with it depending on foods.....This red face thing would coincide with NP but as it has been so occasional has been hard to track down..could it be be when he does not get the extra no fenol? I will makes sure he always has the extra no fenol with NP and see how that goes.I would be very interested to know what the 10 foods were that your son did OK on ? My NT does not use enzymes...though he should really. I hope this is the reason why he is having these headaches but he did stop the NP on Monday and is still having the headaches (more than 5 a day). Things were going so well here, now I am sick with worry.  Dr Goyal has recommended neuroprotek for my 3 yr old son.  When I looked at it I decided against it as it is high in flavornoids. If there is a sulphation problem according to Rosemary Waring's research flavornoids supress SULT1 and SULT2 enzymes which are required for sulphation. The migraine type headaches are often associated with amines - in infants it displays as bady tumy aches and cramps but then changes to headaches around time of puberty. (FAILSAFE website has good info fact sheet on this). No fenol fixed this problem for my son and he has never had tummy ache since.  I know phenols (Including salicylates and amines are a huge problems for him as at 10 months old we did a very strict elimination diet.  When on only 10 foods he was fantastic.  When these foods were re-introduced the hyperactive and distressed behaviour returned. I understand sulphation is a problem for most with asd so it doesn't surprise me that many have reactions to NP.  We go to great lengths to make sure suppplements are flavornoid and flavour free. BW Alison Rowbotham On 10 November 2011 16:52, and wrote:  Anita, this is my NT son....he has just started university and got a major migraine (these are usually food/stress triggered and involve scary stuff like tingling hand then arm then throat, loses speech ,co ordination, understanding, vision problems and massive migraine headache). I thought maybe it was stress related so sent him some adrenal support and neuro protek, his AS brother is less stressed on NP. Shortly after this he started with sharp stabbing headaches and during this feeling muddled? So I was just hoping it was a possible side effect of the NP. He has been off it since Sunday but still getting the headaches , got another migraine on Monday and had to call an ambulance as he was trying to get back from uni and could not see properly. He is 200 miles away and I am worried sick..he is trying to register with a doctor urgently. Thanks On 10/11/2011 15:59, Anita wrote:  , I have read somewhere about other kids having trouble with the ingredients in NP and switching to Lutimax, which is just the luteolin. I haven't used it, but there are some good reports on it. Might be worth a try? I have also read a fwe kids needing to take no-fenol with the NP? Has your son had phenol issues before? Anita > > > > > > > > Hi, > > > > A few people have mentioned not getting on very well with NP. Could > > > you > > > > please let me know how it affected you. I got my son (NT) to give it a > > > > try and he has been having a lot of headaches and sounds like he has > > > > been getting brain fog too....just wondering if it is the NP. I have > > > > told him to stop taking it to see how it goes. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > No virus found in this message. > > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com <http://www.avg.com> > > Version: 2012.0.1869 / Virus Database: 2092/4607 - Release Date: 11/09/11 > > > No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2012.0.1869 / Virus Database: 2092/4607 - Release Date: 11/09/11 No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2012.0.1869 / Virus Database: 2092/4608 - Release Date: 11/10/11 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 13, 2011 Report Share Posted November 13, 2011 Oh yes, sometimes are better than others , but they can be severe I always carry the pen around because I also suffer from asthma and sometimes the reactions are internal like the swelling of respiratory ways .... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 13, 2011 Report Share Posted November 13, 2011 , I am gluten free and do not touch any cows products and I have very few milk products that helps I strength my immune system .....I have adrenal support .....I do not know if is the same with your son but in our house all comes from the adrenals and thyroid ..... the doctors never came with an answer but I have come to the conclusion is that they are a symptom of a weakened immune system .....but more I strength it lees headaches I have .....hope it helps with your son Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 13, 2011 Report Share Posted November 13, 2011 , I am gluten free and do not touch any cows products and I have very few milk products that helps I strength my immune system .....I have adrenal support .....I do not know if is the same with your son but in our house all comes from the adrenals and thyroid ..... the doctors never came with an answer but I have come to the conclusion is that they are a symptom of a weakened immune system .....but more I strength it lees headaches I have .....hope it helps with your son Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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