Most Ignorant Piece of work yet!

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Went to s open night at college and met the most ignorant woman ever! Art tutor at P's college.

I had concerns that she wasn't teaching as P had already said she never helped him or showed him anything, anyway she just would not take any questioning at all, told me autism was NOT a disability and he just has to get on with it! She as good as called him a liar, said he doesn't pay attention and that all the students in her class need help, actually the other students are foreign people with English as a second language and have no disability whatsoever.

She really was the most astoundingly ignorant piece of work I have ever encountered and that's saying something, suffice to say is sufficiently stressed now that he will not go back to her class, so I suppose the only thing to do is phone connexions and the college and put in a formal complaint.

AMAZING, how does anyone this stupid secure a job teaching at any level at all never mind a city college?

Vickyy

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I agree, I would complain, they can;t take the money if they can't meet his needs

Mx

She really was the most astoundingly ignorant piece of work I have ever encountered and that's saying something, suffice to say is sufficiently stressed now that he will not go back to her class, so I suppose the only thing to do is phone connexions and the college and put in a formal complaint.

AMAZING, how does anyone this stupid secure a job teaching at any level at all never mind a city college?

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I agree, I would complain, they can;t take the money if they can't meet his needs

Mx

She really was the most astoundingly ignorant piece of work I have ever encountered and that's saying something, suffice to say is sufficiently stressed now that he will not go back to her class, so I suppose the only thing to do is phone connexions and the college and put in a formal complaint.

AMAZING, how does anyone this stupid secure a job teaching at any level at all never mind a city college?

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I agree, I would complain, they can;t take the money if they can't meet his needs

Mx

She really was the most astoundingly ignorant piece of work I have ever encountered and that's saying something, suffice to say is sufficiently stressed now that he will not go back to her class, so I suppose the only thing to do is phone connexions and the college and put in a formal complaint.

AMAZING, how does anyone this stupid secure a job teaching at any level at all never mind a city college?

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And disability discrimination, denying a disability

Mx

Went to s open night at college and met the most ignorant woman ever! Art tutor at P's college.

I had concerns that she wasn't teaching as P had already said she never helped him or showed him anything, anyway she just would not take any questioning at all, told me autism was NOT a disability and he just has to get on with it! She as good as called him a liar, said he doesn't pay attention and that all the students in her class need help, actually the other students are foreign people with English as a second language and have no disability whatsoever.

She really was the most astoundingly ignorant piece of work I have ever encountered and that's saying something, suffice to say is sufficiently stressed now that he will not go back to her class, so I suppose the only thing to do is phone connexions and the college and put in a formal complaint.

AMAZING, how does anyone this stupid secure a job teaching at any level at all never mind a city college?

Vickyy

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And disability discrimination, denying a disability

Mx

Went to s open night at college and met the most ignorant woman ever! Art tutor at P's college.

I had concerns that she wasn't teaching as P had already said she never helped him or showed him anything, anyway she just would not take any questioning at all, told me autism was NOT a disability and he just has to get on with it! She as good as called him a liar, said he doesn't pay attention and that all the students in her class need help, actually the other students are foreign people with English as a second language and have no disability whatsoever.

She really was the most astoundingly ignorant piece of work I have ever encountered and that's saying something, suffice to say is sufficiently stressed now that he will not go back to her class, so I suppose the only thing to do is phone connexions and the college and put in a formal complaint.

AMAZING, how does anyone this stupid secure a job teaching at any level at all never mind a city college?

Vickyy

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And disability discrimination, denying a disability

Mx

Went to s open night at college and met the most ignorant woman ever! Art tutor at P's college.

I had concerns that she wasn't teaching as P had already said she never helped him or showed him anything, anyway she just would not take any questioning at all, told me autism was NOT a disability and he just has to get on with it! She as good as called him a liar, said he doesn't pay attention and that all the students in her class need help, actually the other students are foreign people with English as a second language and have no disability whatsoever.

She really was the most astoundingly ignorant piece of work I have ever encountered and that's saying something, suffice to say is sufficiently stressed now that he will not go back to her class, so I suppose the only thing to do is phone connexions and the college and put in a formal complaint.

AMAZING, how does anyone this stupid secure a job teaching at any level at all never mind a city college?

Vickyy

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And was astounded to read in Jack's home to school book (he is 8) that 'today we learnt about Henry the 8th' !!!! Bearing in mind this is an autism specialist school! Now what Henry the 8th will ever be of any use to Jack I will never know but reading your post Vicky it just proves that is doesn't get any better. And yes I would most definately complain.

 

Marina xx

 

And disability discrimination, denying a disability

 

Mx

 

 

Went to s open night at college and met the most ignorant woman ever! Art tutor at P's college.

 I had concerns that she wasn't teaching as P had already said she never helped him or showed him anything, anyway she just would not take any questioning at all, told me autism was NOT a disability and he just has to get on with it!  She as good as called him a liar, said he doesn't pay attention and that all the students in her class need help, actually the other students are foreign people with English as a second language and have no disability whatsoever.

She really was the most astoundingly ignorant piece of work I have ever encountered and that's saying something, suffice to say is sufficiently stressed now that he will not go back to her class, so I suppose the only thing to do is phone connexions and the college and put in a formal complaint.

AMAZING, how does anyone this stupid secure a job teaching at any level at all never mind a city college?

Vickyy

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And was astounded to read in Jack's home to school book (he is 8) that 'today we learnt about Henry the 8th' !!!! Bearing in mind this is an autism specialist school! Now what Henry the 8th will ever be of any use to Jack I will never know but reading your post Vicky it just proves that is doesn't get any better. And yes I would most definately complain.

 

Marina xx

 

And disability discrimination, denying a disability

 

Mx

 

 

Went to s open night at college and met the most ignorant woman ever! Art tutor at P's college.

 I had concerns that she wasn't teaching as P had already said she never helped him or showed him anything, anyway she just would not take any questioning at all, told me autism was NOT a disability and he just has to get on with it!  She as good as called him a liar, said he doesn't pay attention and that all the students in her class need help, actually the other students are foreign people with English as a second language and have no disability whatsoever.

She really was the most astoundingly ignorant piece of work I have ever encountered and that's saying something, suffice to say is sufficiently stressed now that he will not go back to her class, so I suppose the only thing to do is phone connexions and the college and put in a formal complaint.

AMAZING, how does anyone this stupid secure a job teaching at any level at all never mind a city college?

Vickyy

[Guest guest]

And was astounded to read in Jack's home to school book (he is 8) that 'today we learnt about Henry the 8th' !!!! Bearing in mind this is an autism specialist school! Now what Henry the 8th will ever be of any use to Jack I will never know but reading your post Vicky it just proves that is doesn't get any better. And yes I would most definately complain.

 

Marina xx

 

And disability discrimination, denying a disability

 

Mx

 

 

Went to s open night at college and met the most ignorant woman ever! Art tutor at P's college.

 I had concerns that she wasn't teaching as P had already said she never helped him or showed him anything, anyway she just would not take any questioning at all, told me autism was NOT a disability and he just has to get on with it!  She as good as called him a liar, said he doesn't pay attention and that all the students in her class need help, actually the other students are foreign people with English as a second language and have no disability whatsoever.

She really was the most astoundingly ignorant piece of work I have ever encountered and that's saying something, suffice to say is sufficiently stressed now that he will not go back to her class, so I suppose the only thing to do is phone connexions and the college and put in a formal complaint.

AMAZING, how does anyone this stupid secure a job teaching at any level at all never mind a city college?

Vickyy

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Why not write to the Head and ask if they could explain what they believe they

have taught him about Henry VIII?

It would be lovely to know what he now knows about the 16th Century, about

Kings, about politics, about religion, about marriage and divorce. Perhaps they

have got him to stick scraps of cloth on paper and now claim he now knows about

16th Centruty costume?

Margaret

We had this at Henry's last school - they said they had had a morning about the

ns. As far as Henry was concerned he had been encouraged to put his

hands into warm soap suds.

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> > Went to s open night at college and met the most ignorant woman

> > ever! Art tutor at P's college.

> > I had concerns that she wasn't teaching as P had already said she never

> > helped him or showed him anything, anyway she just would not take any

> > questioning at all, told me autism was NOT a disability and he just has to

> > get on with it! She as good as called him a liar, said he doesn't pay

> > attention and that all the students in her class need help, actually the

> > other students are foreign people with English as a second language and

> > have no disability whatsoever.

> > She really was the most astoundingly ignorant piece of work I have ever

> > encountered and that's saying something, suffice to say is

> > sufficiently stressed now that he will not go back to her class, so I

> > suppose the only thing to do is phone connexions and the college and put in

> > a formal complaint.

> > AMAZING, how does anyone this stupid secure a job teaching at any level at

> > all never mind a city college?

> > Vickyy

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Why not write to the Head and ask if they could explain what they believe they

have taught him about Henry VIII?

It would be lovely to know what he now knows about the 16th Century, about

Kings, about politics, about religion, about marriage and divorce. Perhaps they

have got him to stick scraps of cloth on paper and now claim he now knows about

16th Centruty costume?

Margaret

We had this at Henry's last school - they said they had had a morning about the

ns. As far as Henry was concerned he had been encouraged to put his

hands into warm soap suds.

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> > In a message dated 02/11/2011 19:52:12 GMT Standard Time,

> > MaddiganV@... writes:

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> > Went to s open night at college and met the most ignorant woman

> > ever! Art tutor at P's college.

> > I had concerns that she wasn't teaching as P had already said she never

> > helped him or showed him anything, anyway she just would not take any

> > questioning at all, told me autism was NOT a disability and he just has to

> > get on with it! She as good as called him a liar, said he doesn't pay

> > attention and that all the students in her class need help, actually the

> > other students are foreign people with English as a second language and

> > have no disability whatsoever.

> > She really was the most astoundingly ignorant piece of work I have ever

> > encountered and that's saying something, suffice to say is

> > sufficiently stressed now that he will not go back to her class, so I

> > suppose the only thing to do is phone connexions and the college and put in

> > a formal complaint.

> > AMAZING, how does anyone this stupid secure a job teaching at any level at

> > all never mind a city college?

> > Vickyy

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[Guest guest]

Why not write to the Head and ask if they could explain what they believe they

have taught him about Henry VIII?

It would be lovely to know what he now knows about the 16th Century, about

Kings, about politics, about religion, about marriage and divorce. Perhaps they

have got him to stick scraps of cloth on paper and now claim he now knows about

16th Centruty costume?

Margaret

We had this at Henry's last school - they said they had had a morning about the

ns. As far as Henry was concerned he had been encouraged to put his

hands into warm soap suds.

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> > In a message dated 02/11/2011 19:52:12 GMT Standard Time,

> > MaddiganV@... writes:

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> > Went to s open night at college and met the most ignorant woman

> > ever! Art tutor at P's college.

> > I had concerns that she wasn't teaching as P had already said she never

> > helped him or showed him anything, anyway she just would not take any

> > questioning at all, told me autism was NOT a disability and he just has to

> > get on with it! She as good as called him a liar, said he doesn't pay

> > attention and that all the students in her class need help, actually the

> > other students are foreign people with English as a second language and

> > have no disability whatsoever.

> > She really was the most astoundingly ignorant piece of work I have ever

> > encountered and that's saying something, suffice to say is

> > sufficiently stressed now that he will not go back to her class, so I

> > suppose the only thing to do is phone connexions and the college and put in

> > a formal complaint.

> > AMAZING, how does anyone this stupid secure a job teaching at any level at

> > all never mind a city college?

> > Vickyy

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Sometimes special schools are operating in la-la land: a fantasy world which

makes the staff feel good. They refuse to think or to face reality. Our children

suffer.

In the Annual Review meeting when Henry was about 4, the school report claimed

he had done gardening and had planted bulbs. I had actually witnessed this

particular event as I had been in school on this occasion. The staff dug a hole.

Henry was given a bulb, which, as a roundish object, he instantly threw. I

reminded them of this in the meeting. He, of course, had no idea that what he

had done was supposed to be gardening: he had no idea what gardening was; he had

no idea that the bulb would become a flower in the spring. But the staff told

themselves that Henry had done gardening and put it in his annual report as an

achievement.

At his next school they kept reporting in the home school book, again and again,

that he was labelling shapes. This went on year after year! I told them at

several annual review meetings that he could already label shapes before he went

to this school and I referred to a report (signed by a Head teacher) which was

evidence that he could already do this years ago. I asked would they still be

reporting that he was being required to label shapes when he was 18? And why

were they getting him to label a cuboid? What on earth has that got to do with

anything? (I went through school, Maths 'O' level, University and many years of

working life without ever having heard of a cuboid.) Why were they so obsessed

with this? What use would it ever be to him?

Both the above schools were LA general purpose special schools. In the first,

about 75% of the pupils had autism; in the second, about half did.

Eventually I found out that the reports I was writing for the Annual Review, as

well as the professionals' reports, were not being circulated to staff before

the meeting. So that was why they all sat there like lemons year after year! So

I wrote a damning report - beginning with the fact that nobody ever read the

papers for the Annual Review because the school didn't circulate them. I also

wrote that the Head didn't bother to answer letters. Two days before the Annual

Review I sent this report directly by e-mail to everyone concerned for whom I

had an e-mail address. I only burned my bridges once it was clear there was no

future at all for Henry at this school and I was determined to get him out of

it; I also knew that we were facing Tribunal #4. I wish I had been tougher

earlier.

Margaret

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> > > > In a message dated 02/11/2011 19:52:12 GMT Standard Time,

> > > > MaddiganV@ writes:

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> > > > Went to s open night at college and met the most ignorant woman

> > > > ever! Art tutor at P's college.

> > > > I had concerns that she wasn't teaching as P had already said she never

> > > > helped him or showed him anything, anyway she just would not take any

> > > > questioning at all, told me autism was NOT a disability and he just

> > has to

> > > > get on with it! She as good as called him a liar, said he doesn't pay

> > > > attention and that all the students in her class need help, actually

> > the

> > > > other students are foreign people with English as a second language and

> > > > have no disability whatsoever.

> > > > She really was the most astoundingly ignorant piece of work I have ever

> > > > encountered and that's saying something, suffice to say is

> > > > sufficiently stressed now that he will not go back to her class, so I

> > > > suppose the only thing to do is phone connexions and the college and

> > put in

> > > > a formal complaint.

> > > > AMAZING, how does anyone this stupid secure a job teaching at any

> > level at

> > > > all never mind a city college?

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[Guest guest]

Make sure you take someone with you to support you at the meeting - and to be an

independent witness to what is said. It's harder to deny that something was said

or to put a spin on things if someone independent was there.

Margaret

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> > > > > > Went to s open night at college and met the most ignorant

> > woman

> > > > > > ever! Art tutor at P's college.

> > > > > > I had concerns that she wasn't teaching as P had already said she

> > never

> > > > > > helped him or showed him anything, anyway she just would not take

> > any

> > > > > > questioning at all, told me autism was NOT a disability and he just

> > > > has to

> > > > > > get on with it! She as good as called him a liar, said he doesn't

> > pay

> > > > > > attention and that all the students in her class need help,

> > actually

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> > > > > > other students are foreign people with English as a second

> > language and

> > > > > > have no disability whatsoever.

> > > > > > She really was the most astoundingly ignorant piece of work I have

> > ever

> > > > > > encountered and that's saying something, suffice to say is

> > > > > > sufficiently stressed now that he will not go back to her class,

> > so I

> > > > > > suppose the only thing to do is phone connexions and the college

> > and

> > > > put in

> > > > > > a formal complaint.

> > > > > > AMAZING, how does anyone this stupid secure a job teaching at any

> > > > level at

> > > > > > all never mind a city college?

> > > > > > Vickyy

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[Guest guest]

Make sure you take someone with you to support you at the meeting - and to be an

independent witness to what is said. It's harder to deny that something was said

or to put a spin on things if someone independent was there.

Margaret

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> > > > > > In a message dated 02/11/2011 19:52:12 GMT Standard Time,

> > > > > > MaddiganV@ writes:

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> > > > > > Went to s open night at college and met the most ignorant

> > woman

> > > > > > ever! Art tutor at P's college.

> > > > > > I had concerns that she wasn't teaching as P had already said she

> > never

> > > > > > helped him or showed him anything, anyway she just would not take

> > any

> > > > > > questioning at all, told me autism was NOT a disability and he just

> > > > has to

> > > > > > get on with it! She as good as called him a liar, said he doesn't

> > pay

> > > > > > attention and that all the students in her class need help,

> > actually

> > > > the

> > > > > > other students are foreign people with English as a second

> > language and

> > > > > > have no disability whatsoever.

> > > > > > She really was the most astoundingly ignorant piece of work I have

> > ever

> > > > > > encountered and that's saying something, suffice to say is

> > > > > > sufficiently stressed now that he will not go back to her class,

> > so I

> > > > > > suppose the only thing to do is phone connexions and the college

> > and

> > > > put in

> > > > > > a formal complaint.

> > > > > > AMAZING, how does anyone this stupid secure a job teaching at any

> > > > level at

> > > > > > all never mind a city college?

> > > > > > Vickyy

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[Guest guest]

And disability discrimination, denying a disabilityTotally agree with you there.

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[Guest guest]

And disability discrimination, denying a disabilityTotally agree with you there.

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[Guest guest]

Oh Vicky, how awful! I cannot believe it. You had only said earlier in the day

you had some concerns and they were rightly justified.

Risca

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> Vicky

> My heart is with you....I know what is to have your words distorted and

> have your words against theirs can be very frustrating .....

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> if I could meet my son needs at home I would home school without even look

> back .....you may even have no time to your self and be very overwhelming ,

> but I prefer this kind stress to the one of having to deal to certain

> " characters " .....

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Oh Vicky, how awful! I cannot believe it. You had only said earlier in the day

you had some concerns and they were rightly justified.

Risca

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> Vicky

> My heart is with you....I know what is to have your words distorted and

> have your words against theirs can be very frustrating .....

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> if I could meet my son needs at home I would home school without even look

> back .....you may even have no time to your self and be very overwhelming ,

> but I prefer this kind stress to the one of having to deal to certain

> " characters " .....

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[Guest guest]

This is appalling. Clearly, they're just closing ranks and can't be trusted to give a true account of anything. I think it would be a very good idea to take somebody with you to all future meetings - failing that, maybe you could smuggle a tape recorder in, lol! Would it be worth contacting your local Parent Partnership Service? I think they can accompany parents to meetings with schools, not sure if they do the same with colleges.You have to stand up to these bullies and I know you've had plenty of practice at that, Vicky, but it's very wearing, upsetting and time-consuming. I remember dealing with similar people when my son first started school - awful memories! Special needs seem to bring out either the very best or very worst in people - some of those I've met through my son's autism have been wonderfully compassionate and sincere, whereas others have no interest in the children and are only in it for money / status etc.What's depressing is that the latter group are usually the ones with the most power and influence.Really hope you find a way of resolving this.Joanne>> > > > Went to the meeting this morning, and both men I spoke to were present, one taking notes.> They seemed to be approaching this entire thing as though they could try and trip me up, thing is I am telling the truth so it's not possible to trip me up. They informed me how dreadfully upset this ill informed tutor was, it was said as though she were the victim. Again they doubt she said what she did, performed the expected character witness task as though saying how wonderful someone is in their opinion, proves innocence. The story now is that was not honest when he said he was happy with his course [i'm not aware anyone asked him such a thing] but again we have this implication that we are not honest people.> I know Margaret advised taking someone with me but I don't have anyone available at such short notice and in any case if they are not going to tell the truth it won't make much difference ie this man insists the open night was very busy, doesn't tie in with the tutor phoning me and asking me to come earlier or that the place was deserted when I got there, while I was there and when I left. I wouldn't be surprised if the notes do not reflect what was said as I didn't say anything untoward and didn't rise to the bait and get angry although the man doing most of the talking appeared to be really trying to mask his anger and I had to ask him to calm down several times.> I was asked to repeat my answers to the questions the first man asked the day before and ofcourse they are exactly the same, one doesn't need a great memory when telling the truth.> I have the weekend to decide what to do, they have allocated a support worker for P which is good but the question is : Is it good enough? At the end of the day this woman knows she said what I have complained about, I know she did and P knows she did, so where do we go from here? Isn't it interesting that institutions always roll out all their awards for autism and disability completely blind to the fact that every school, college, hospital and clinic hold so many of these awards that they are totally meaningless.> Vicky> > > > Re: Re: Most Ignorant Piece of work yet!> > > > > > > I found that is not all about knowledge you have to have your heart in it as well that is what makes the difference .....Risca is a good example of knowledge allied to a big heart and this is the key of success....my kid has success when the person that works with him actually cares if he is learning or not and does not gives up when does not succeeds but goes to drawing board and looks for alternatives and is willingly to learn from others including us parents ....> how many professionals do you know that actually are not in SEN for the money ....but they actually want these kids to get some where.... I been in this for 11 years and so far no one ....> I am finding myself grateful these days when people actually have the courage to say they can meet my son's needs so I do not have to loose time with them ....> The SEN system is a fraud people that actually can make decisions are partial and have their wages paid by the NHS and education so you never win, all you have is services denied to you ...I am struggling to have a diagnosis of epilepsy despite of reporting seizures for the last past 6 months first to his pead and to his GP and despite of the NICE rules saying that a child should see a specialist within 2 weeks and have the proper exams within 4 weeks ......> You have to be contempt to see our children being given services of OT and SALT by people without any qualifications like are TA's....> When you actually have the money to pay for this services you find that you actually do not have the professionals....no professional does therapy time any more they are to busy to seat their bottoms on chairs and listen to others and drink their tea...have been to many meeting and actually I am the one that speaks everyone goes mute and actually they are the "professionals" they are the ones "in the know".....ironic > I have more qualifications that most of the professionals that I work with in autism but I am still the hysterical demented (and other names calling that I am to polite to say out loud) mother of a violent, naughty, rude , etc child .....he never has autism despite of his diagnosis > Vicky god luck with your complaint really if we give up who goes to fight their corner .....> > >

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This is appalling. Clearly, they're just closing ranks and can't be trusted to give a true account of anything. I think it would be a very good idea to take somebody with you to all future meetings - failing that, maybe you could smuggle a tape recorder in, lol! Would it be worth contacting your local Parent Partnership Service? I think they can accompany parents to meetings with schools, not sure if they do the same with colleges.You have to stand up to these bullies and I know you've had plenty of practice at that, Vicky, but it's very wearing, upsetting and time-consuming. I remember dealing with similar people when my son first started school - awful memories! Special needs seem to bring out either the very best or very worst in people - some of those I've met through my son's autism have been wonderfully compassionate and sincere, whereas others have no interest in the children and are only in it for money / status etc.What's depressing is that the latter group are usually the ones with the most power and influence.Really hope you find a way of resolving this.Joanne>> > > > Went to the meeting this morning, and both men I spoke to were present, one taking notes.> They seemed to be approaching this entire thing as though they could try and trip me up, thing is I am telling the truth so it's not possible to trip me up. They informed me how dreadfully upset this ill informed tutor was, it was said as though she were the victim. Again they doubt she said what she did, performed the expected character witness task as though saying how wonderful someone is in their opinion, proves innocence. The story now is that was not honest when he said he was happy with his course [i'm not aware anyone asked him such a thing] but again we have this implication that we are not honest people.> I know Margaret advised taking someone with me but I don't have anyone available at such short notice and in any case if they are not going to tell the truth it won't make much difference ie this man insists the open night was very busy, doesn't tie in with the tutor phoning me and asking me to come earlier or that the place was deserted when I got there, while I was there and when I left. I wouldn't be surprised if the notes do not reflect what was said as I didn't say anything untoward and didn't rise to the bait and get angry although the man doing most of the talking appeared to be really trying to mask his anger and I had to ask him to calm down several times.> I was asked to repeat my answers to the questions the first man asked the day before and ofcourse they are exactly the same, one doesn't need a great memory when telling the truth.> I have the weekend to decide what to do, they have allocated a support worker for P which is good but the question is : Is it good enough? At the end of the day this woman knows she said what I have complained about, I know she did and P knows she did, so where do we go from here? Isn't it interesting that institutions always roll out all their awards for autism and disability completely blind to the fact that every school, college, hospital and clinic hold so many of these awards that they are totally meaningless.> Vicky> > > > Re: Re: Most Ignorant Piece of work yet!> > > > > > > I found that is not all about knowledge you have to have your heart in it as well that is what makes the difference .....Risca is a good example of knowledge allied to a big heart and this is the key of success....my kid has success when the person that works with him actually cares if he is learning or not and does not gives up when does not succeeds but goes to drawing board and looks for alternatives and is willingly to learn from others including us parents ....> how many professionals do you know that actually are not in SEN for the money ....but they actually want these kids to get some where.... I been in this for 11 years and so far no one ....> I am finding myself grateful these days when people actually have the courage to say they can meet my son's needs so I do not have to loose time with them ....> The SEN system is a fraud people that actually can make decisions are partial and have their wages paid by the NHS and education so you never win, all you have is services denied to you ...I am struggling to have a diagnosis of epilepsy despite of reporting seizures for the last past 6 months first to his pead and to his GP and despite of the NICE rules saying that a child should see a specialist within 2 weeks and have the proper exams within 4 weeks ......> You have to be contempt to see our children being given services of OT and SALT by people without any qualifications like are TA's....> When you actually have the money to pay for this services you find that you actually do not have the professionals....no professional does therapy time any more they are to busy to seat their bottoms on chairs and listen to others and drink their tea...have been to many meeting and actually I am the one that speaks everyone goes mute and actually they are the "professionals" they are the ones "in the know".....ironic > I have more qualifications that most of the professionals that I work with in autism but I am still the hysterical demented (and other names calling that I am to polite to say out loud) mother of a violent, naughty, rude , etc child .....he never has autism despite of his diagnosis > Vicky god luck with your complaint really if we give up who goes to fight their corner .....> > >

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Me too. You need a buddy who lives near you to come with you to meetings.Wish I

lived nearer.

Margaret x

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> Make your own notes, just as you have here. Disability discrimination? I am

> so bloody mad I cannot think straioght

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> Mx

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> Went to the meeting this morning, and both men I spoke to were present,

> one taking notes.

> They seemed to be approaching this entire thing as though they could try

> and trip me up, thing is I am telling the truth so it's not possible to trip

> me up. They informed me how dreadfully upset this ill informed tutor was,

> it was said as though she were the victim. Again they doubt she said what

> she did, performed the expected character witness task as though saying how

> wonderful someone is in their opinion, proves innocence. The story now is

> that was not honest when he said he was happy with his course [i'm

> not aware anyone asked him such a thing] but again we have this implication

> that we are not honest people.

> I know Margaret advised taking someone with me but I don't have anyone

> available at such short notice and in any case if they are not going to tell

> the truth it won't make much difference ie this man insists the open night

> was very busy, doesn't tie in with the tutor phoning me and asking me to

> come earlier or that the place was deserted when I got there, while I was

> there and when I left. I wouldn't be surprised if the notes do not reflect

> what was said as I didn't say anything untoward and didn't rise to the bait

> and get angry although the man doing most of the talking appeared to be

> really trying to mask his anger and I had to ask him to calm down several

times.

> I was asked to repeat my answers to the questions the first man asked the

> day before and ofcourse they are exactly the same, one doesn't need a great

> memory when telling the truth.

> I have the weekend to decide what to do, they have allocated a support

> worker for P which is good but the question is : Is it good enough? At the

> end of the day this woman knows she said what I have complained about, I know

> she did and P knows she did, so where do we go from here? Isn't it

> interesting that institutions always roll out all their awards for autism and

> disability completely blind to the fact that every school, college, hospital

> and clinic hold so many of these awards that they are totally meaningless.

> Vicky

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> Subject: Re: Re: Most Ignorant Piece of work

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> I found that is not all about knowledge you have to have your heart in it

> as well that is what makes the difference .....Risca is a good example of

> knowledge allied to a big heart and this is the key of success....my kid

> has success when the person that works with him actually cares if he is

> learning or not and does not gives up when does not succeeds but goes to

drawing

> board and looks for alternatives and is willingly to learn from others

> including us parents ....

> how many professionals do you know that actually are not in SEN for the

> money ....but they actually want these kids to get some where.... I been in

> this for 11 years and so far no one ....

> I am finding myself grateful these days when people actually have the

> courage to say they can meet my son's needs so I do not have to loose time

with

> them ....

> The SEN system is a fraud people that actually can make decisions are

> partial and have their wages paid by the NHS and education so you never win,

> all you have is services denied to you ...I am struggling to have a diagnosis

> of epilepsy despite of reporting seizures for the last past 6 months first

> to his pead and to his GP and despite of the NICE rules saying that a child

> should see a specialist within 2 weeks and have the proper exams within 4

> weeks ......

> You have to be contempt to see our children being given services of OT and

> SALT by people without any qualifications like are TA's....

> When you actually have the money to pay for this services you find that

> you actually do not have the professionals....no professional does therapy

> time any more they are to busy to seat their bottoms on chairs and listen to

> others and drink their tea...have been to many meeting and actually I am

> the one that speaks everyone goes mute and actually they are the

> " professionals " they are the ones " in the know " .....ironic

> I have more qualifications that most of the professionals that I work with

> in autism but I am still the hysterical demented (and other names calling

> that I am to polite to say out loud) mother of a violent, naughty, rude ,

> etc child .....he never has autism despite of his diagnosis

> Vicky god luck with your complaint really if we give up who goes to fight

> their corner .....

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