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Hi, I am very sad when I hear of things that people wish they hadn't done in

pregnancy and therefore they feel perhaps 'guilty' about their child's

diagnosis.

When I had my 4th child (yes, planned even though we have 3 boys already with

autism) I was gluten free in pregnancy, no jabs etc etc. Marcus has never had a

single jab, I even requested the Vit K orally for birth. I kept him gluten free

and casein free until way after 2 by which time he too was diagnosed with

autism.

I would say however that at 3 he is more able at the same age than his brothers

were and my middle son developed normally until having his 3rd baby jab catch up

at 2 at which point he lost language and regressed so I am very wary of any

vaccinations and although I don't think its the absloute finite cause of my

boys' autism, it certainly increases the underlying problems.

So.... I believe a child is genetically predisposed but the risk or level of

autism can be increased or decreased by outside factors...wish I knew what they

were! I have MTHFR which is some genetic factor that increases the likelihood in

our case.

We were given a 20% risk of ASD by St s Genetics which is a standard risk,

I think we are unusual and also in that it doesn't exist in either of our

families either.

Enjoy your pregnancy, I love, love, love my littlest boy and have never

regretted having him for a minute and please no one feel guilty that something

you did caused your children's problems.

(Mum to non-id twins 13 last week, a 10 yr old and a 3 yr old, all with

ASD diagnosed at around 2/3) and currently running my 4th ABA programme!

> >

> > We have just found out that my wife is pregnant. The pregnancy wasn't

planned in that we had only managed to conceive our first child (a daughter) via

IVF and subsequent attempts at IVF had all been unsuccesful - hence we weren't

taking precautions. However, a miracle appears to have happened and my wife is

pregnant.

> >

> > Our daughter is just four and was diagnosed with ASD at around 2 and a half.

She developed normally until around 18 months and then regressed. Her

communication skills are severely underdeveloped (she is non-verbal) and she has

a number of sensory issues. Eye contact is fleeting (but improving) and she is

affectionate. We've started some biomedical treatments with some small (but not

earth shattering) results.

> >

> > I understand from internet searches that there is a heightened chance of our

second child being on the spectrum. I was wondering what actions we might take

to minimise the chances of ASD?

> >

> > Actions I can think of from the top of my head are:

> >

> > 1) No vaccinations - should we decline the MMR or all vaccinations?

> >

> > 2) My wife should avoid nasty chemicals, paint, cleaning products during

pregnancy. We've already got rid of broadband

> >

> > Any other suggestions or advice would be appreciated.

> >

> > Thanks

> >

> > Adam

> >

>

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Hi, I am very sad when I hear of things that people wish they hadn't done in

pregnancy and therefore they feel perhaps 'guilty' about their child's

diagnosis.

When I had my 4th child (yes, planned even though we have 3 boys already with

autism) I was gluten free in pregnancy, no jabs etc etc. Marcus has never had a

single jab, I even requested the Vit K orally for birth. I kept him gluten free

and casein free until way after 2 by which time he too was diagnosed with

autism.

I would say however that at 3 he is more able at the same age than his brothers

were and my middle son developed normally until having his 3rd baby jab catch up

at 2 at which point he lost language and regressed so I am very wary of any

vaccinations and although I don't think its the absloute finite cause of my

boys' autism, it certainly increases the underlying problems.

So.... I believe a child is genetically predisposed but the risk or level of

autism can be increased or decreased by outside factors...wish I knew what they

were! I have MTHFR which is some genetic factor that increases the likelihood in

our case.

We were given a 20% risk of ASD by St s Genetics which is a standard risk,

I think we are unusual and also in that it doesn't exist in either of our

families either.

Enjoy your pregnancy, I love, love, love my littlest boy and have never

regretted having him for a minute and please no one feel guilty that something

you did caused your children's problems.

(Mum to non-id twins 13 last week, a 10 yr old and a 3 yr old, all with

ASD diagnosed at around 2/3) and currently running my 4th ABA programme!

> >

> > We have just found out that my wife is pregnant. The pregnancy wasn't

planned in that we had only managed to conceive our first child (a daughter) via

IVF and subsequent attempts at IVF had all been unsuccesful - hence we weren't

taking precautions. However, a miracle appears to have happened and my wife is

pregnant.

> >

> > Our daughter is just four and was diagnosed with ASD at around 2 and a half.

She developed normally until around 18 months and then regressed. Her

communication skills are severely underdeveloped (she is non-verbal) and she has

a number of sensory issues. Eye contact is fleeting (but improving) and she is

affectionate. We've started some biomedical treatments with some small (but not

earth shattering) results.

> >

> > I understand from internet searches that there is a heightened chance of our

second child being on the spectrum. I was wondering what actions we might take

to minimise the chances of ASD?

> >

> > Actions I can think of from the top of my head are:

> >

> > 1) No vaccinations - should we decline the MMR or all vaccinations?

> >

> > 2) My wife should avoid nasty chemicals, paint, cleaning products during

pregnancy. We've already got rid of broadband

> >

> > Any other suggestions or advice would be appreciated.

> >

> > Thanks

> >

> > Adam

> >

>

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What a lovely post. Really inspiring to read, I do carry a large amount of guilt (mainly due to taking my children to have vaccines with mercury in them and the subsequqnet damage that ensued), so it's so nice to read what you've written , and helps challenge that guilt to some extent. Thank you for posting. Janet To: Autism-Biomedical-Europe From: sarahziegel@...Date: Tue, 6 Mar 2012 10:27:02 +0000Subject: Re: Having our 2nd Child

Hi, I am very sad when I hear of things that people wish they hadn't done in pregnancy and therefore they feel perhaps 'guilty' about their child's diagnosis.

When I had my 4th child (yes, planned even though we have 3 boys already with autism) I was gluten free in pregnancy, no jabs etc etc. Marcus has never had a single jab, I even requested the Vit K orally for birth. I kept him gluten free and casein free until way after 2 by which time he too was diagnosed with autism.

I would say however that at 3 he is more able at the same age than his brothers were and my middle son developed normally until having his 3rd baby jab catch up at 2 at which point he lost language and regressed so I am very wary of any vaccinations and although I don't think its the absloute finite cause of my boys' autism, it certainly increases the underlying problems.

So.... I believe a child is genetically predisposed but the risk or level of autism can be increased or decreased by outside factors...wish I knew what they were! I have MTHFR which is some genetic factor that increases the likelihood in our case.

We were given a 20% risk of ASD by St s Genetics which is a standard risk, I think we are unusual and also in that it doesn't exist in either of our families either.

Enjoy your pregnancy, I love, love, love my littlest boy and have never regretted having him for a minute and please no one feel guilty that something you did caused your children's problems.

(Mum to non-id twins 13 last week, a 10 yr old and a 3 yr old, all with ASD diagnosed at around 2/3) and currently running my 4th ABA programme!

> >

> > We have just found out that my wife is pregnant. The pregnancy wasn't planned in that we had only managed to conceive our first child (a daughter) via IVF and subsequent attempts at IVF had all been unsuccesful - hence we weren't taking precautions. However, a miracle appears to have happened and my wife is pregnant.

> >

> > Our daughter is just four and was diagnosed with ASD at around 2 and a half. She developed normally until around 18 months and then regressed. Her communication skills are severely underdeveloped (she is non-verbal) and she has a number of sensory issues. Eye contact is fleeting (but improving) and she is affectionate. We've started some biomedical treatments with some small (but not earth shattering) results.

> >

> > I understand from internet searches that there is a heightened chance of our second child being on the spectrum. I was wondering what actions we might take to minimise the chances of ASD?

> >

> > Actions I can think of from the top of my head are:

> >

> > 1) No vaccinations - should we decline the MMR or all vaccinations?

> >

> > 2) My wife should avoid nasty chemicals, paint, cleaning products during pregnancy. We've already got rid of broadband

> >

> > Any other suggestions or advice would be appreciated.

> >

> > Thanks

> >

> > Adam

> >

>

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What a lovely post. Really inspiring to read, I do carry a large amount of guilt (mainly due to taking my children to have vaccines with mercury in them and the subsequqnet damage that ensued), so it's so nice to read what you've written , and helps challenge that guilt to some extent. Thank you for posting. Janet To: Autism-Biomedical-Europe From: sarahziegel@...Date: Tue, 6 Mar 2012 10:27:02 +0000Subject: Re: Having our 2nd Child

Hi, I am very sad when I hear of things that people wish they hadn't done in pregnancy and therefore they feel perhaps 'guilty' about their child's diagnosis.

When I had my 4th child (yes, planned even though we have 3 boys already with autism) I was gluten free in pregnancy, no jabs etc etc. Marcus has never had a single jab, I even requested the Vit K orally for birth. I kept him gluten free and casein free until way after 2 by which time he too was diagnosed with autism.

I would say however that at 3 he is more able at the same age than his brothers were and my middle son developed normally until having his 3rd baby jab catch up at 2 at which point he lost language and regressed so I am very wary of any vaccinations and although I don't think its the absloute finite cause of my boys' autism, it certainly increases the underlying problems.

So.... I believe a child is genetically predisposed but the risk or level of autism can be increased or decreased by outside factors...wish I knew what they were! I have MTHFR which is some genetic factor that increases the likelihood in our case.

We were given a 20% risk of ASD by St s Genetics which is a standard risk, I think we are unusual and also in that it doesn't exist in either of our families either.

Enjoy your pregnancy, I love, love, love my littlest boy and have never regretted having him for a minute and please no one feel guilty that something you did caused your children's problems.

(Mum to non-id twins 13 last week, a 10 yr old and a 3 yr old, all with ASD diagnosed at around 2/3) and currently running my 4th ABA programme!

> >

> > We have just found out that my wife is pregnant. The pregnancy wasn't planned in that we had only managed to conceive our first child (a daughter) via IVF and subsequent attempts at IVF had all been unsuccesful - hence we weren't taking precautions. However, a miracle appears to have happened and my wife is pregnant.

> >

> > Our daughter is just four and was diagnosed with ASD at around 2 and a half. She developed normally until around 18 months and then regressed. Her communication skills are severely underdeveloped (she is non-verbal) and she has a number of sensory issues. Eye contact is fleeting (but improving) and she is affectionate. We've started some biomedical treatments with some small (but not earth shattering) results.

> >

> > I understand from internet searches that there is a heightened chance of our second child being on the spectrum. I was wondering what actions we might take to minimise the chances of ASD?

> >

> > Actions I can think of from the top of my head are:

> >

> > 1) No vaccinations - should we decline the MMR or all vaccinations?

> >

> > 2) My wife should avoid nasty chemicals, paint, cleaning products during pregnancy. We've already got rid of broadband

> >

> > Any other suggestions or advice would be appreciated.

> >

> > Thanks

> >

> > Adam

> >

>

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What a lovely post. Really inspiring to read, I do carry a large amount of guilt (mainly due to taking my children to have vaccines with mercury in them and the subsequqnet damage that ensued), so it's so nice to read what you've written , and helps challenge that guilt to some extent. Thank you for posting. Janet To: Autism-Biomedical-Europe From: sarahziegel@...Date: Tue, 6 Mar 2012 10:27:02 +0000Subject: Re: Having our 2nd Child

Hi, I am very sad when I hear of things that people wish they hadn't done in pregnancy and therefore they feel perhaps 'guilty' about their child's diagnosis.

When I had my 4th child (yes, planned even though we have 3 boys already with autism) I was gluten free in pregnancy, no jabs etc etc. Marcus has never had a single jab, I even requested the Vit K orally for birth. I kept him gluten free and casein free until way after 2 by which time he too was diagnosed with autism.

I would say however that at 3 he is more able at the same age than his brothers were and my middle son developed normally until having his 3rd baby jab catch up at 2 at which point he lost language and regressed so I am very wary of any vaccinations and although I don't think its the absloute finite cause of my boys' autism, it certainly increases the underlying problems.

So.... I believe a child is genetically predisposed but the risk or level of autism can be increased or decreased by outside factors...wish I knew what they were! I have MTHFR which is some genetic factor that increases the likelihood in our case.

We were given a 20% risk of ASD by St s Genetics which is a standard risk, I think we are unusual and also in that it doesn't exist in either of our families either.

Enjoy your pregnancy, I love, love, love my littlest boy and have never regretted having him for a minute and please no one feel guilty that something you did caused your children's problems.

(Mum to non-id twins 13 last week, a 10 yr old and a 3 yr old, all with ASD diagnosed at around 2/3) and currently running my 4th ABA programme!

> >

> > We have just found out that my wife is pregnant. The pregnancy wasn't planned in that we had only managed to conceive our first child (a daughter) via IVF and subsequent attempts at IVF had all been unsuccesful - hence we weren't taking precautions. However, a miracle appears to have happened and my wife is pregnant.

> >

> > Our daughter is just four and was diagnosed with ASD at around 2 and a half. She developed normally until around 18 months and then regressed. Her communication skills are severely underdeveloped (she is non-verbal) and she has a number of sensory issues. Eye contact is fleeting (but improving) and she is affectionate. We've started some biomedical treatments with some small (but not earth shattering) results.

> >

> > I understand from internet searches that there is a heightened chance of our second child being on the spectrum. I was wondering what actions we might take to minimise the chances of ASD?

> >

> > Actions I can think of from the top of my head are:

> >

> > 1) No vaccinations - should we decline the MMR or all vaccinations?

> >

> > 2) My wife should avoid nasty chemicals, paint, cleaning products during pregnancy. We've already got rid of broadband

> >

> > Any other suggestions or advice would be appreciated.

> >

> > Thanks

> >

> > Adam

> >

>

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