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Congratulations to you and your wife Adam. If it were me, I would be sure to

take some methyl donors like mb12, good quality fish oil in highish doses, and

make sure my bacterial levels were very good (and husband's should be too, even

after conception).

As for vaccines, it is a personal choice, obviously, but I do like Halverson's

book on the subject. It might be worth a read.

Anita

>

> We have just found out that my wife is pregnant. The pregnancy wasn't planned

in that we had only managed to conceive our first child (a daughter) via IVF and

subsequent attempts at IVF had all been unsuccesful - hence we weren't taking

precautions. However, a miracle appears to have happened and my wife is

pregnant.

>

> Our daughter is just four and was diagnosed with ASD at around 2 and a half.

She developed normally until around 18 months and then regressed. Her

communication skills are severely underdeveloped (she is non-verbal) and she has

a number of sensory issues. Eye contact is fleeting (but improving) and she is

affectionate. We've started some biomedical treatments with some small (but not

earth shattering) results.

>

> I understand from internet searches that there is a heightened chance of our

second child being on the spectrum. I was wondering what actions we might take

to minimise the chances of ASD?

>

> Actions I can think of from the top of my head are:

>

> 1) No vaccinations - should we decline the MMR or all vaccinations?

>

> 2) My wife should avoid nasty chemicals, paint, cleaning products during

pregnancy. We've already got rid of broadband

>

> Any other suggestions or advice would be appreciated.

>

> Thanks

>

> Adam

>

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Congratulations to you and your wife Adam. If it were me, I would be sure to

take some methyl donors like mb12, good quality fish oil in highish doses, and

make sure my bacterial levels were very good (and husband's should be too, even

after conception).

As for vaccines, it is a personal choice, obviously, but I do like Halverson's

book on the subject. It might be worth a read.

Anita

>

> We have just found out that my wife is pregnant. The pregnancy wasn't planned

in that we had only managed to conceive our first child (a daughter) via IVF and

subsequent attempts at IVF had all been unsuccesful - hence we weren't taking

precautions. However, a miracle appears to have happened and my wife is

pregnant.

>

> Our daughter is just four and was diagnosed with ASD at around 2 and a half.

She developed normally until around 18 months and then regressed. Her

communication skills are severely underdeveloped (she is non-verbal) and she has

a number of sensory issues. Eye contact is fleeting (but improving) and she is

affectionate. We've started some biomedical treatments with some small (but not

earth shattering) results.

>

> I understand from internet searches that there is a heightened chance of our

second child being on the spectrum. I was wondering what actions we might take

to minimise the chances of ASD?

>

> Actions I can think of from the top of my head are:

>

> 1) No vaccinations - should we decline the MMR or all vaccinations?

>

> 2) My wife should avoid nasty chemicals, paint, cleaning products during

pregnancy. We've already got rid of broadband

>

> Any other suggestions or advice would be appreciated.

>

> Thanks

>

> Adam

>

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Congratulations to you and your wife Adam. If it were me, I would be sure to

take some methyl donors like mb12, good quality fish oil in highish doses, and

make sure my bacterial levels were very good (and husband's should be too, even

after conception).

As for vaccines, it is a personal choice, obviously, but I do like Halverson's

book on the subject. It might be worth a read.

Anita

>

> We have just found out that my wife is pregnant. The pregnancy wasn't planned

in that we had only managed to conceive our first child (a daughter) via IVF and

subsequent attempts at IVF had all been unsuccesful - hence we weren't taking

precautions. However, a miracle appears to have happened and my wife is

pregnant.

>

> Our daughter is just four and was diagnosed with ASD at around 2 and a half.

She developed normally until around 18 months and then regressed. Her

communication skills are severely underdeveloped (she is non-verbal) and she has

a number of sensory issues. Eye contact is fleeting (but improving) and she is

affectionate. We've started some biomedical treatments with some small (but not

earth shattering) results.

>

> I understand from internet searches that there is a heightened chance of our

second child being on the spectrum. I was wondering what actions we might take

to minimise the chances of ASD?

>

> Actions I can think of from the top of my head are:

>

> 1) No vaccinations - should we decline the MMR or all vaccinations?

>

> 2) My wife should avoid nasty chemicals, paint, cleaning products during

pregnancy. We've already got rid of broadband

>

> Any other suggestions or advice would be appreciated.

>

> Thanks

>

> Adam

>

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I would add to this that if already pregnant, I would suggest that it might not

be such a good idea to detox during the prgnancy or while breastfeeding. Many

harmful substances are stored in fat and it might be best to leave them locked

up there as far as possible until breast feeding was over - unless there was a

good medical reason to lose weight in pregnancy.

Margaret

> >

> > We have just found out that my wife is pregnant. The pregnancy wasn't

planned in that we had only managed to conceive our first child (a daughter) via

IVF and subsequent attempts at IVF had all been unsuccesful - hence we weren't

taking precautions. However, a miracle appears to have happened and my wife is

pregnant.

> >

> > Our daughter is just four and was diagnosed with ASD at around 2 and a half.

She developed normally until around 18 months and then regressed. Her

communication skills are severely underdeveloped (she is non-verbal) and she has

a number of sensory issues. Eye contact is fleeting (but improving) and she is

affectionate. We've started some biomedical treatments with some small (but not

earth shattering) results.

> >

> > I understand from internet searches that there is a heightened chance of our

second child being on the spectrum. I was wondering what actions we might take

to minimise the chances of ASD?

> >

> > Actions I can think of from the top of my head are:

> >

> > 1) No vaccinations - should we decline the MMR or all vaccinations?

> >

> > 2) My wife should avoid nasty chemicals, paint, cleaning products during

pregnancy. We've already got rid of broadband

> >

> > Any other suggestions or advice would be appreciated.

> >

> > Thanks

> >

> > Adam

> >

>

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I would add to this that if already pregnant, I would suggest that it might not

be such a good idea to detox during the prgnancy or while breastfeeding. Many

harmful substances are stored in fat and it might be best to leave them locked

up there as far as possible until breast feeding was over - unless there was a

good medical reason to lose weight in pregnancy.

Margaret

> >

> > We have just found out that my wife is pregnant. The pregnancy wasn't

planned in that we had only managed to conceive our first child (a daughter) via

IVF and subsequent attempts at IVF had all been unsuccesful - hence we weren't

taking precautions. However, a miracle appears to have happened and my wife is

pregnant.

> >

> > Our daughter is just four and was diagnosed with ASD at around 2 and a half.

She developed normally until around 18 months and then regressed. Her

communication skills are severely underdeveloped (she is non-verbal) and she has

a number of sensory issues. Eye contact is fleeting (but improving) and she is

affectionate. We've started some biomedical treatments with some small (but not

earth shattering) results.

> >

> > I understand from internet searches that there is a heightened chance of our

second child being on the spectrum. I was wondering what actions we might take

to minimise the chances of ASD?

> >

> > Actions I can think of from the top of my head are:

> >

> > 1) No vaccinations - should we decline the MMR or all vaccinations?

> >

> > 2) My wife should avoid nasty chemicals, paint, cleaning products during

pregnancy. We've already got rid of broadband

> >

> > Any other suggestions or advice would be appreciated.

> >

> > Thanks

> >

> > Adam

> >

>

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I would add to this that if already pregnant, I would suggest that it might not

be such a good idea to detox during the prgnancy or while breastfeeding. Many

harmful substances are stored in fat and it might be best to leave them locked

up there as far as possible until breast feeding was over - unless there was a

good medical reason to lose weight in pregnancy.

Margaret

> >

> > We have just found out that my wife is pregnant. The pregnancy wasn't

planned in that we had only managed to conceive our first child (a daughter) via

IVF and subsequent attempts at IVF had all been unsuccesful - hence we weren't

taking precautions. However, a miracle appears to have happened and my wife is

pregnant.

> >

> > Our daughter is just four and was diagnosed with ASD at around 2 and a half.

She developed normally until around 18 months and then regressed. Her

communication skills are severely underdeveloped (she is non-verbal) and she has

a number of sensory issues. Eye contact is fleeting (but improving) and she is

affectionate. We've started some biomedical treatments with some small (but not

earth shattering) results.

> >

> > I understand from internet searches that there is a heightened chance of our

second child being on the spectrum. I was wondering what actions we might take

to minimise the chances of ASD?

> >

> > Actions I can think of from the top of my head are:

> >

> > 1) No vaccinations - should we decline the MMR or all vaccinations?

> >

> > 2) My wife should avoid nasty chemicals, paint, cleaning products during

pregnancy. We've already got rid of broadband

> >

> > Any other suggestions or advice would be appreciated.

> >

> > Thanks

> >

> > Adam

> >

>

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Congratulations!

My second is coming up to 9 months now. I know it's a little way ahead for you,

but a few months ago I started a thread asking for advice on safe weaning of

baby to solids. Since I posted it I've spoken to a nutritionist with some

interesting advice; have been meaning to update that thread for ages in case of

interest to anyone else so will do so now.

Best wishes to you and your wife

>

> s is a widely respected nutritionist who lectures on diet and

autism. She has run some workshops/webcourses on how to minimize risks during

pregnancy and ensure optimal health and nutrition.

>

> Here's a link to her site:

> http://www.healthfullivingsf.com/pregnancy/

>

> All the best wishes,

> Holly

>

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Congratulations!

My second is coming up to 9 months now. I know it's a little way ahead for you,

but a few months ago I started a thread asking for advice on safe weaning of

baby to solids. Since I posted it I've spoken to a nutritionist with some

interesting advice; have been meaning to update that thread for ages in case of

interest to anyone else so will do so now.

Best wishes to you and your wife

>

> s is a widely respected nutritionist who lectures on diet and

autism. She has run some workshops/webcourses on how to minimize risks during

pregnancy and ensure optimal health and nutrition.

>

> Here's a link to her site:

> http://www.healthfullivingsf.com/pregnancy/

>

> All the best wishes,

> Holly

>

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Hiya, you've had some good replies and I've not managed to read them all yet but

I just wanted to share a book I'm reading at the moment called deep nutrition by

catherine shanahan. It's fascinating. Her 2 main evils are sugar and vegetable

oil. She says we should be reducing all sugar including fruit and eating animal

fats and foods as natural as possible. See if you can find a copy, as I can't

really do it justice in such a short reply. She also says low carbs because

they turn to sugar in the body.

>

> We have just found out that my wife is pregnant. The pregnancy wasn't planned

in that we had only managed to conceive our first child (a daughter) via IVF and

subsequent attempts at IVF had all been unsuccesful - hence we weren't taking

precautions. However, a miracle appears to have happened and my wife is

pregnant.

>

> Our daughter is just four and was diagnosed with ASD at around 2 and a half.

She developed normally until around 18 months and then regressed. Her

communication skills are severely underdeveloped (she is non-verbal) and she has

a number of sensory issues. Eye contact is fleeting (but improving) and she is

affectionate. We've started some biomedical treatments with some small (but not

earth shattering) results.

>

> I understand from internet searches that there is a heightened chance of our

second child being on the spectrum. I was wondering what actions we might take

to minimise the chances of ASD?

>

> Actions I can think of from the top of my head are:

>

> 1) No vaccinations - should we decline the MMR or all vaccinations?

>

> 2) My wife should avoid nasty chemicals, paint, cleaning products during

pregnancy. We've already got rid of broadband

>

> Any other suggestions or advice would be appreciated.

>

> Thanks

>

> Adam

>

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Hiya, you've had some good replies and I've not managed to read them all yet but

I just wanted to share a book I'm reading at the moment called deep nutrition by

catherine shanahan. It's fascinating. Her 2 main evils are sugar and vegetable

oil. She says we should be reducing all sugar including fruit and eating animal

fats and foods as natural as possible. See if you can find a copy, as I can't

really do it justice in such a short reply. She also says low carbs because

they turn to sugar in the body.

>

> We have just found out that my wife is pregnant. The pregnancy wasn't planned

in that we had only managed to conceive our first child (a daughter) via IVF and

subsequent attempts at IVF had all been unsuccesful - hence we weren't taking

precautions. However, a miracle appears to have happened and my wife is

pregnant.

>

> Our daughter is just four and was diagnosed with ASD at around 2 and a half.

She developed normally until around 18 months and then regressed. Her

communication skills are severely underdeveloped (she is non-verbal) and she has

a number of sensory issues. Eye contact is fleeting (but improving) and she is

affectionate. We've started some biomedical treatments with some small (but not

earth shattering) results.

>

> I understand from internet searches that there is a heightened chance of our

second child being on the spectrum. I was wondering what actions we might take

to minimise the chances of ASD?

>

> Actions I can think of from the top of my head are:

>

> 1) No vaccinations - should we decline the MMR or all vaccinations?

>

> 2) My wife should avoid nasty chemicals, paint, cleaning products during

pregnancy. We've already got rid of broadband

>

> Any other suggestions or advice would be appreciated.

>

> Thanks

>

> Adam

>

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Hi,

Congratulations. I have two older boys - one who is hyper and the second who is

severely Autistic. I too had an unplanned pregnancy. By this time I was an even

older Mum (41). So I was worried. Not to mention the fact that I had and x-ray

and subsequent operation to remove a needle from my foot. I had taken

conbantrum (to treat tread worms) all before I new I was pregnant.

I used my older son as a barometer and my guidance if it was a problem for him,

I would avoid it.

I limited my gluten, dairy and sugar content.

I too had read about the folic acid issues and had come across that before I got

pregnant and it resonated with my son with ASD. As a result I did not take

it. I did not know at this time about taking something to help absorption of

this. So this is definitely worth researching.

I think because autism like cancer has sub types, the best clues come from the

child with autism. What affects them is probably best avoided.

I did not eat any of the mercury fish. And limited all fish to not very many.

I did take fish oils that were tested. I took Vit D3 and zinc. And some iron

because I was badly anaemic during my son's pregnancy.

I went to a chiropractor, to relief any stress on my body, I did not drink any

alcohol. If I felt stressed I practised relaxation-breathing techniques to make

myself get over it. (High levels of Cortisol have some connection with Autism

esp. higher functioning.)

I ate cultured vegetables and took probiotics - the gut is a big issue for my

son.

My son did not regress into autism, but by 8 weeks was not developing normally.

However, he did loose skills between 2 and 3 years. He had early vaccines but

not the MMR.

My daughter was born 18 months ago, one of the first things she learnt to do was

point. (a gift for sure) She is developing normally. She has had no

vaccinations what so ever. She has only a little bit of yogurt, and for her

dairy and calcium, I am still feeding her. So fingers crossed she continues to

develop normally.

Finally as you are probably aware the risk of having an ASD child or any other

learning difficulties is higher in children with IVF, so this is now in your

favour.

Good luck.

Una

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Hi,

Congratulations. I have two older boys - one who is hyper and the second who is

severely Autistic. I too had an unplanned pregnancy. By this time I was an even

older Mum (41). So I was worried. Not to mention the fact that I had and x-ray

and subsequent operation to remove a needle from my foot. I had taken

conbantrum (to treat tread worms) all before I new I was pregnant.

I used my older son as a barometer and my guidance if it was a problem for him,

I would avoid it.

I limited my gluten, dairy and sugar content.

I too had read about the folic acid issues and had come across that before I got

pregnant and it resonated with my son with ASD. As a result I did not take

it. I did not know at this time about taking something to help absorption of

this. So this is definitely worth researching.

I think because autism like cancer has sub types, the best clues come from the

child with autism. What affects them is probably best avoided.

I did not eat any of the mercury fish. And limited all fish to not very many.

I did take fish oils that were tested. I took Vit D3 and zinc. And some iron

because I was badly anaemic during my son's pregnancy.

I went to a chiropractor, to relief any stress on my body, I did not drink any

alcohol. If I felt stressed I practised relaxation-breathing techniques to make

myself get over it. (High levels of Cortisol have some connection with Autism

esp. higher functioning.)

I ate cultured vegetables and took probiotics - the gut is a big issue for my

son.

My son did not regress into autism, but by 8 weeks was not developing normally.

However, he did loose skills between 2 and 3 years. He had early vaccines but

not the MMR.

My daughter was born 18 months ago, one of the first things she learnt to do was

point. (a gift for sure) She is developing normally. She has had no

vaccinations what so ever. She has only a little bit of yogurt, and for her

dairy and calcium, I am still feeding her. So fingers crossed she continues to

develop normally.

Finally as you are probably aware the risk of having an ASD child or any other

learning difficulties is higher in children with IVF, so this is now in your

favour.

Good luck.

Una

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Hi I hope I dont just repeat what other have said previously re 2nd child but

hope you find this useful. I had a baby 2 years ago having had a daughter with

asd 7 years prior to that. I did not drink I had acupunuture to keep calm and

practised yoga.i took fishoils religiously.i also tried to avoid as many

chemicals as possible so make up only natural cleaning products etc.When my son

was born no vaccines also plenty of cranial osteopathy as apparently this is

helpful.He is still breastfed and has only minimal amounts of dairy.He has had

NO vaccines.

I was ancient when pregnant with him and very worried but 2 years down the line

he is fine and a joy! Congrats on your pregnancy

Emma

-- In Autism-Biomedical-Europe , " Una " wrote:

>

>

> Hi,

>

> Congratulations. I have two older boys - one who is hyper and the second who

is severely Autistic. I too had an unplanned pregnancy. By this time I was an

even older Mum (41). So I was worried. Not to mention the fact that I had and

x-ray and subsequent operation to remove a needle from my foot. I had taken

conbantrum (to treat tread worms) all before I new I was pregnant.

>

> I used my older son as a barometer and my guidance if it was a problem for

him, I would avoid it.

>

> I limited my gluten, dairy and sugar content.

>

> I too had read about the folic acid issues and had come across that before I

got pregnant and it resonated with my son with ASD. As a result I did not

take it. I did not know at this time about taking something to help absorption

of this. So this is definitely worth researching.

>

> I think because autism like cancer has sub types, the best clues come from the

child with autism. What affects them is probably best avoided.

> I did not eat any of the mercury fish. And limited all fish to not very many.

I did take fish oils that were tested. I took Vit D3 and zinc. And some iron

because I was badly anaemic during my son's pregnancy.

>

> I went to a chiropractor, to relief any stress on my body, I did not drink any

alcohol. If I felt stressed I practised relaxation-breathing techniques to make

myself get over it. (High levels of Cortisol have some connection with Autism

esp. higher functioning.)

> I ate cultured vegetables and took probiotics - the gut is a big issue for my

son.

>

> My son did not regress into autism, but by 8 weeks was not developing

normally. However, he did loose skills between 2 and 3 years. He had early

vaccines but not the MMR.

>

> My daughter was born 18 months ago, one of the first things she learnt to do

was point. (a gift for sure) She is developing normally. She has had no

vaccinations what so ever. She has only a little bit of yogurt, and for her

dairy and calcium, I am still feeding her. So fingers crossed she continues to

develop normally.

>

> Finally as you are probably aware the risk of having an ASD child or any other

learning difficulties is higher in children with IVF, so this is now in your

favour.

>

> Good luck.

> Una

>

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Hi I hope I dont just repeat what other have said previously re 2nd child but

hope you find this useful. I had a baby 2 years ago having had a daughter with

asd 7 years prior to that. I did not drink I had acupunuture to keep calm and

practised yoga.i took fishoils religiously.i also tried to avoid as many

chemicals as possible so make up only natural cleaning products etc.When my son

was born no vaccines also plenty of cranial osteopathy as apparently this is

helpful.He is still breastfed and has only minimal amounts of dairy.He has had

NO vaccines.

I was ancient when pregnant with him and very worried but 2 years down the line

he is fine and a joy! Congrats on your pregnancy

Emma

-- In Autism-Biomedical-Europe , " Una " wrote:

>

>

> Hi,

>

> Congratulations. I have two older boys - one who is hyper and the second who

is severely Autistic. I too had an unplanned pregnancy. By this time I was an

even older Mum (41). So I was worried. Not to mention the fact that I had and

x-ray and subsequent operation to remove a needle from my foot. I had taken

conbantrum (to treat tread worms) all before I new I was pregnant.

>

> I used my older son as a barometer and my guidance if it was a problem for

him, I would avoid it.

>

> I limited my gluten, dairy and sugar content.

>

> I too had read about the folic acid issues and had come across that before I

got pregnant and it resonated with my son with ASD. As a result I did not

take it. I did not know at this time about taking something to help absorption

of this. So this is definitely worth researching.

>

> I think because autism like cancer has sub types, the best clues come from the

child with autism. What affects them is probably best avoided.

> I did not eat any of the mercury fish. And limited all fish to not very many.

I did take fish oils that were tested. I took Vit D3 and zinc. And some iron

because I was badly anaemic during my son's pregnancy.

>

> I went to a chiropractor, to relief any stress on my body, I did not drink any

alcohol. If I felt stressed I practised relaxation-breathing techniques to make

myself get over it. (High levels of Cortisol have some connection with Autism

esp. higher functioning.)

> I ate cultured vegetables and took probiotics - the gut is a big issue for my

son.

>

> My son did not regress into autism, but by 8 weeks was not developing

normally. However, he did loose skills between 2 and 3 years. He had early

vaccines but not the MMR.

>

> My daughter was born 18 months ago, one of the first things she learnt to do

was point. (a gift for sure) She is developing normally. She has had no

vaccinations what so ever. She has only a little bit of yogurt, and for her

dairy and calcium, I am still feeding her. So fingers crossed she continues to

develop normally.

>

> Finally as you are probably aware the risk of having an ASD child or any other

learning difficulties is higher in children with IVF, so this is now in your

favour.

>

> Good luck.

> Una

>

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Dear Adam, first of all, many congratulations.

In her shoes I would most definitely do this:

test for group B strep. its easy to do and implicated in Autism.

Eileen xx

http://www.gbss.org.uk/

>

> We have just found out that my wife is pregnant. The pregnancy wasn't planned

in that we had only managed to conceive our first child (a daughter) via IVF and

subsequent attempts at IVF had all been unsuccesful - hence we weren't taking

precautions. However, a miracle appears to have happened and my wife is

pregnant.

>

> Our daughter is just four and was diagnosed with ASD at around 2 and a half.

She developed normally until around 18 months and then regressed. Her

communication skills are severely underdeveloped (she is non-verbal) and she has

a number of sensory issues. Eye contact is fleeting (but improving) and she is

affectionate. We've started some biomedical treatments with some small (but not

earth shattering) results.

>

> I understand from internet searches that there is a heightened chance of our

second child being on the spectrum. I was wondering what actions we might take

to minimise the chances of ASD?

>

> Actions I can think of from the top of my head are:

>

> 1) No vaccinations - should we decline the MMR or all vaccinations?

>

> 2) My wife should avoid nasty chemicals, paint, cleaning products during

pregnancy. We've already got rid of broadband

>

> Any other suggestions or advice would be appreciated.

>

> Thanks

>

> Adam

>

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Dear Adam, first of all, many congratulations.

In her shoes I would most definitely do this:

test for group B strep. its easy to do and implicated in Autism.

Eileen xx

http://www.gbss.org.uk/

>

> We have just found out that my wife is pregnant. The pregnancy wasn't planned

in that we had only managed to conceive our first child (a daughter) via IVF and

subsequent attempts at IVF had all been unsuccesful - hence we weren't taking

precautions. However, a miracle appears to have happened and my wife is

pregnant.

>

> Our daughter is just four and was diagnosed with ASD at around 2 and a half.

She developed normally until around 18 months and then regressed. Her

communication skills are severely underdeveloped (she is non-verbal) and she has

a number of sensory issues. Eye contact is fleeting (but improving) and she is

affectionate. We've started some biomedical treatments with some small (but not

earth shattering) results.

>

> I understand from internet searches that there is a heightened chance of our

second child being on the spectrum. I was wondering what actions we might take

to minimise the chances of ASD?

>

> Actions I can think of from the top of my head are:

>

> 1) No vaccinations - should we decline the MMR or all vaccinations?

>

> 2) My wife should avoid nasty chemicals, paint, cleaning products during

pregnancy. We've already got rid of broadband

>

> Any other suggestions or advice would be appreciated.

>

> Thanks

>

> Adam

>

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The incidence of learning difficulties/disabilites is much higher for an IVF child, so your second child, who was conceived naturally has a more fortuitous start in life.

Natural childbirth (unless the mum or baby are at risk of course) is better for the baby. During natural childbirth the reflexes of the baby go through an essential part of their development ( and reflex development is involved in all asepcts of development - emotional, cognitive, physical, communication, feeding etc)

Re: Re: Having our 2nd Child

I would advise:

-no dental work

-no tuna

-avoid processed foods as much as possible

-eat organic foods and a wide variety of organic veg if possible

- take a high quality omega 3 supplement

- avoid antibiotics

- no flu jabs (!!!)

- avoid excessive ultrasound scans (personally I think the one at 12 wks is warranted but others may wish to weigh in on this)

- properly balance the gut (drink kefir, take probiotics, etc.) especially if you are going to have a vaginal birth

-use good cookware to prepare foods

- don't drink Diet Drinks or use artificial sweeteners

- drink reverse osmosis filtered water

- as you've said avoid exposure to chemicals (paints, cleaning agents, etc.)

If you search the archives for "pregnancy" you will find lots of discussions about lots of things people wished that they had NOT done when they were pregnant!

As for vax's just make sure that you are well informed - my son did not have the MMR and he still has autism (albeit very high functioning autism but it's still autism!)

But most of all don't stress about it, just do what you can and enjoy your new baby!! Many congratulations on the unexpected surprise.

Darla

Dear Adam, first of all, many congratulations.

In her shoes I would most definitely do this:

test for group B strep. its easy to do and implicated in Autism.

Eileen xx

http://www.gbss.org.uk/

>

> We have just found out that my wife is pregnant. The pregnancy wasn't planned in that we had only managed to conceive our first child (a daughter) via IVF and subsequent attempts at IVF had all been unsuccesful - hence we weren't taking precautions. However, a miracle appears to have happened and my wife is pregnant.

>

> Our daughter is just four and was diagnosed with ASD at around 2 and a half. She developed normally until around 18 months and then regressed. Her communication skills are severely underdeveloped (she is non-verbal) and she has a number of sensory issues. Eye contact is fleeting (but improving) and she is affectionate. We've started some biomedical treatments with some small (but not earth shattering) results.

>

> I understand from internet searches that there is a heightened chance of our second child being on the spectrum. I was wondering what actions we might take to minimise the chances of ASD?

>

> Actions I can think of from the top of my head are:

>

> 1) No vaccinations - should we decline the MMR or all vaccinations?

>

> 2) My wife should avoid nasty chemicals, paint, cleaning products during pregnancy. We've already got rid of broadband

>

> Any other suggestions or advice would be appreciated.

>

> Thanks

>

> Adam

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The incidence of learning difficulties/disabilites is much higher for an IVF child, so your second child, who was conceived naturally has a more fortuitous start in life.

Natural childbirth (unless the mum or baby are at risk of course) is better for the baby. During natural childbirth the reflexes of the baby go through an essential part of their development ( and reflex development is involved in all asepcts of development - emotional, cognitive, physical, communication, feeding etc)

Re: Re: Having our 2nd Child

I would advise:

-no dental work

-no tuna

-avoid processed foods as much as possible

-eat organic foods and a wide variety of organic veg if possible

- take a high quality omega 3 supplement

- avoid antibiotics

- no flu jabs (!!!)

- avoid excessive ultrasound scans (personally I think the one at 12 wks is warranted but others may wish to weigh in on this)

- properly balance the gut (drink kefir, take probiotics, etc.) especially if you are going to have a vaginal birth

-use good cookware to prepare foods

- don't drink Diet Drinks or use artificial sweeteners

- drink reverse osmosis filtered water

- as you've said avoid exposure to chemicals (paints, cleaning agents, etc.)

If you search the archives for "pregnancy" you will find lots of discussions about lots of things people wished that they had NOT done when they were pregnant!

As for vax's just make sure that you are well informed - my son did not have the MMR and he still has autism (albeit very high functioning autism but it's still autism!)

But most of all don't stress about it, just do what you can and enjoy your new baby!! Many congratulations on the unexpected surprise.

Darla

Dear Adam, first of all, many congratulations.

In her shoes I would most definitely do this:

test for group B strep. its easy to do and implicated in Autism.

Eileen xx

http://www.gbss.org.uk/

>

> We have just found out that my wife is pregnant. The pregnancy wasn't planned in that we had only managed to conceive our first child (a daughter) via IVF and subsequent attempts at IVF had all been unsuccesful - hence we weren't taking precautions. However, a miracle appears to have happened and my wife is pregnant.

>

> Our daughter is just four and was diagnosed with ASD at around 2 and a half. She developed normally until around 18 months and then regressed. Her communication skills are severely underdeveloped (she is non-verbal) and she has a number of sensory issues. Eye contact is fleeting (but improving) and she is affectionate. We've started some biomedical treatments with some small (but not earth shattering) results.

>

> I understand from internet searches that there is a heightened chance of our second child being on the spectrum. I was wondering what actions we might take to minimise the chances of ASD?

>

> Actions I can think of from the top of my head are:

>

> 1) No vaccinations - should we decline the MMR or all vaccinations?

>

> 2) My wife should avoid nasty chemicals, paint, cleaning products during pregnancy. We've already got rid of broadband

>

> Any other suggestions or advice would be appreciated.

>

> Thanks

>

> Adam

>

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The incidence of learning difficulties/disabilites is much higher for an IVF child, so your second child, who was conceived naturally has a more fortuitous start in life.

Natural childbirth (unless the mum or baby are at risk of course) is better for the baby. During natural childbirth the reflexes of the baby go through an essential part of their development ( and reflex development is involved in all asepcts of development - emotional, cognitive, physical, communication, feeding etc)

Re: Re: Having our 2nd Child

I would advise:

-no dental work

-no tuna

-avoid processed foods as much as possible

-eat organic foods and a wide variety of organic veg if possible

- take a high quality omega 3 supplement

- avoid antibiotics

- no flu jabs (!!!)

- avoid excessive ultrasound scans (personally I think the one at 12 wks is warranted but others may wish to weigh in on this)

- properly balance the gut (drink kefir, take probiotics, etc.) especially if you are going to have a vaginal birth

-use good cookware to prepare foods

- don't drink Diet Drinks or use artificial sweeteners

- drink reverse osmosis filtered water

- as you've said avoid exposure to chemicals (paints, cleaning agents, etc.)

If you search the archives for "pregnancy" you will find lots of discussions about lots of things people wished that they had NOT done when they were pregnant!

As for vax's just make sure that you are well informed - my son did not have the MMR and he still has autism (albeit very high functioning autism but it's still autism!)

But most of all don't stress about it, just do what you can and enjoy your new baby!! Many congratulations on the unexpected surprise.

Darla

Dear Adam, first of all, many congratulations.

In her shoes I would most definitely do this:

test for group B strep. its easy to do and implicated in Autism.

Eileen xx

http://www.gbss.org.uk/

>

> We have just found out that my wife is pregnant. The pregnancy wasn't planned in that we had only managed to conceive our first child (a daughter) via IVF and subsequent attempts at IVF had all been unsuccesful - hence we weren't taking precautions. However, a miracle appears to have happened and my wife is pregnant.

>

> Our daughter is just four and was diagnosed with ASD at around 2 and a half. She developed normally until around 18 months and then regressed. Her communication skills are severely underdeveloped (she is non-verbal) and she has a number of sensory issues. Eye contact is fleeting (but improving) and she is affectionate. We've started some biomedical treatments with some small (but not earth shattering) results.

>

> I understand from internet searches that there is a heightened chance of our second child being on the spectrum. I was wondering what actions we might take to minimise the chances of ASD?

>

> Actions I can think of from the top of my head are:

>

> 1) No vaccinations - should we decline the MMR or all vaccinations?

>

> 2) My wife should avoid nasty chemicals, paint, cleaning products during pregnancy. We've already got rid of broadband

>

> Any other suggestions or advice would be appreciated.

>

> Thanks

>

> Adam

>

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Hi, I am very sad when I hear of things that people wish they hadn't done in

pregnancy and therefore they feel perhaps 'guilty' about their child's

diagnosis.

When I had my 4th child (yes, planned even though we have 3 boys already with

autism) I was gluten free in pregnancy, no jabs etc etc. Marcus has never had a

single jab, I even requested the Vit K orally for birth. I kept him gluten free

and casein free until way after 2 by which time he too was diagnosed with

autism.

I would say however that at 3 he is more able at the same age than his brothers

were and my middle son developed normally until having his 3rd baby jab catch up

at 2 at which point he lost language and regressed so I am very wary of any

vaccinations and although I don't think its the absloute finite cause of my

boys' autism, it certainly increases the underlying problems.

So.... I believe a child is genetically predisposed but the risk or level of

autism can be increased or decreased by outside factors...wish I knew what they

were! I have MTHFR which is some genetic factor that increases the likelihood in

our case.

We were given a 20% risk of ASD by St s Genetics which is a standard risk,

I think we are unusual and also in that it doesn't exist in either of our

families either.

Enjoy your pregnancy, I love, love, love my littlest boy and have never

regretted having him for a minute and please no one feel guilty that something

you did caused your children's problems.

(Mum to non-id twins 13 last week, a 10 yr old and a 3 yr old, all with

ASD diagnosed at around 2/3) and currently running my 4th ABA programme!

> >

> > We have just found out that my wife is pregnant. The pregnancy wasn't

planned in that we had only managed to conceive our first child (a daughter) via

IVF and subsequent attempts at IVF had all been unsuccesful - hence we weren't

taking precautions. However, a miracle appears to have happened and my wife is

pregnant.

> >

> > Our daughter is just four and was diagnosed with ASD at around 2 and a half.

She developed normally until around 18 months and then regressed. Her

communication skills are severely underdeveloped (she is non-verbal) and she has

a number of sensory issues. Eye contact is fleeting (but improving) and she is

affectionate. We've started some biomedical treatments with some small (but not

earth shattering) results.

> >

> > I understand from internet searches that there is a heightened chance of our

second child being on the spectrum. I was wondering what actions we might take

to minimise the chances of ASD?

> >

> > Actions I can think of from the top of my head are:

> >

> > 1) No vaccinations - should we decline the MMR or all vaccinations?

> >

> > 2) My wife should avoid nasty chemicals, paint, cleaning products during

pregnancy. We've already got rid of broadband

> >

> > Any other suggestions or advice would be appreciated.

> >

> > Thanks

> >

> > Adam

> >

>

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