Guest guest Posted April 4, 2004 Report Share Posted April 4, 2004 I have been advised that if I want to do exercise/sports then I should take 2 puffs of rescue inhaler 15mins before I begin. And make sure my rescue inhaler is with me just in case I do use my inhaler but still stay in attacks for 4 days after I exercise. It works when I'm actually exercising but by nightfall the attacks hit then they won't stop for 4 straight days then it stops again until the next time I exercise then I go through it all over again. I get 2 days break into I have to go through it all over again. HUGS!!! PRECIOUS MARIE JESUS LIVES! mother of Tomas-spinal bifida, hydrophaleus, sciolosis, right ear deafness, epilepsy (Tonic-clonic, absence, complex partial, simple partial, atonic, myoclonic), left-field blindness, tethered cord, allergies, ezema, lazy eye, developmentally delayed Anastasia-ezema, allergies, nosebleeds -mild mental disability(MMD),ezema, allergies, asthma Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 4, 2004 Report Share Posted April 4, 2004 I have been advised that if I want to do exercise/sports then I should take 2 puffs of rescue inhaler 15mins before I begin. And make sure my rescue inhaler is with me just in case I do use my inhaler but still stay in attacks for 4 days after I exercise. It works when I'm actually exercising but by nightfall the attacks hit then they won't stop for 4 straight days then it stops again until the next time I exercise then I go through it all over again. I get 2 days break into I have to go through it all over again. HUGS!!! PRECIOUS MARIE JESUS LIVES! mother of Tomas-spinal bifida, hydrophaleus, sciolosis, right ear deafness, epilepsy (Tonic-clonic, absence, complex partial, simple partial, atonic, myoclonic), left-field blindness, tethered cord, allergies, ezema, lazy eye, developmentally delayed Anastasia-ezema, allergies, nosebleeds -mild mental disability(MMD),ezema, allergies, asthma Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 5, 2004 Report Share Posted April 5, 2004 Marie Sounds to me like you should reduce your exercise program back - to real baby steps - until you are able to tolerate more etc. Re-access what you are doing - see if you can find a physio who specialises in lung arena who can help you put together a programme A bit like my physio who isn't in the lung arena but I have because of my skeletal problems who suggested the walking - not fast walking but walking to keep my joints a little more flexible. I started real small - just increased how many days I did until I could go for a whole hour somewhere! Recently I was talking about selling my car and getting a motorised scooter or bicycle and his immediate reaction was " NO - WHAT ABOUT YOUR BALANCE! So that is where someone who specializes in what ails you is the best to get you on your way Now I'm back to real small again because of the new thing asthma but I hope to work up to doing maybe other things ;-) in baby steps. >I do use my inhaler but still stay in attacks for 4 days after I >exercise. >It works when I'm actually exercising but by nightfall the attacks hit >then they won't stop for 4 straight days then it stops again until the >next time I exercise then I go through it all over again. I get 2 days >break into I have to go through it all over again. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 5, 2004 Report Share Posted April 5, 2004 Marie Sounds to me like you should reduce your exercise program back - to real baby steps - until you are able to tolerate more etc. Re-access what you are doing - see if you can find a physio who specialises in lung arena who can help you put together a programme A bit like my physio who isn't in the lung arena but I have because of my skeletal problems who suggested the walking - not fast walking but walking to keep my joints a little more flexible. I started real small - just increased how many days I did until I could go for a whole hour somewhere! Recently I was talking about selling my car and getting a motorised scooter or bicycle and his immediate reaction was " NO - WHAT ABOUT YOUR BALANCE! So that is where someone who specializes in what ails you is the best to get you on your way Now I'm back to real small again because of the new thing asthma but I hope to work up to doing maybe other things ;-) in baby steps. >I do use my inhaler but still stay in attacks for 4 days after I >exercise. >It works when I'm actually exercising but by nightfall the attacks hit >then they won't stop for 4 straight days then it stops again until the >next time I exercise then I go through it all over again. I get 2 days >break into I have to go through it all over again. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 9, 2004 Report Share Posted April 9, 2004 Hi ! Thanks for advice! I have started off in babysteps once I was diagnosed with asthma. Started with 5 minutes a week and I'm up to 25 minutes a week and now I even can go long distance walking in a slow pace which I couldn't do 2 months ago. But I will ask my doctor about it when I see him this month. I just feel that this is just my new life and I just have to get use to it. Other asthma person told me it take a long time for the attacks to stop with exercise I just feel so frustrated my health never controlled my life before I even have to cancel activities if my breathing not good enough to go out cause going out means I have to use my lungs more plus deal with perfumes and smoke which are 2 of my biggest allergies. But I don't wanna end up in the hospital neither where they take forever to figure out how to treat my condition. I guess I'll figure something out eventually. I guess. HUGS!!! PRECIOUS MARIE JESUS LIVES! mother of Tomas-spinal bifida, hydrophaleus, sciolosis, right ear deafness, epilepsy (Tonic-clonic, absence, complex partial, simple partial, atonic, myoclonic), left-field blindness, tethered cord, allergies, ezema, lazy eye, developmentally delayed Anastasia-ezema, allergies, nosebleeds -mild mental disability(MMD),ezema, allergies, asthma Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 9, 2004 Report Share Posted April 9, 2004 Hi ! Thanks for advice! I have started off in babysteps once I was diagnosed with asthma. Started with 5 minutes a week and I'm up to 25 minutes a week and now I even can go long distance walking in a slow pace which I couldn't do 2 months ago. But I will ask my doctor about it when I see him this month. I just feel that this is just my new life and I just have to get use to it. Other asthma person told me it take a long time for the attacks to stop with exercise I just feel so frustrated my health never controlled my life before I even have to cancel activities if my breathing not good enough to go out cause going out means I have to use my lungs more plus deal with perfumes and smoke which are 2 of my biggest allergies. But I don't wanna end up in the hospital neither where they take forever to figure out how to treat my condition. I guess I'll figure something out eventually. I guess. HUGS!!! PRECIOUS MARIE JESUS LIVES! mother of Tomas-spinal bifida, hydrophaleus, sciolosis, right ear deafness, epilepsy (Tonic-clonic, absence, complex partial, simple partial, atonic, myoclonic), left-field blindness, tethered cord, allergies, ezema, lazy eye, developmentally delayed Anastasia-ezema, allergies, nosebleeds -mild mental disability(MMD),ezema, allergies, asthma Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 11, 2004 Report Share Posted April 11, 2004 Shaz, I couldn't afford that one so they put me on another one instead but not sure which it is they had gave me 2 different ones and one was for allergies. HUGS!!! PRECIOUS MARIE JESUS LIVES! mother of Tomas-spinal bifida, hydrophaleus, sciolosis, right ear deafness, epilepsy (Tonic-clonic, absence, complex partial, simple partial, atonic, myoclonic), left-field blindness, tethered cord, allergies, ezema, lazy eye, developmentally delayed Anastasia-ezema, allergies, nosebleeds -mild mental disability(MMD),ezema, allergies, asthma Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 11, 2004 Report Share Posted April 11, 2004 hi wildthing, i read a leaflet about exercise induced asthma, and it said swimming was good, something to do with not being outdoors but i forget the technical stuff. for me, any exercise outdoors is a hundred times worse than exercising indoors. this singulair that i've started taking says it can prevent exercise induced asthma, shaz Re: exercise was Re: Hit there, > Hi ! > > Thanks for advice! I have started off in babysteps once I was diagnosed > with asthma. Started with 5 minutes a week and I'm up to 25 minutes a > week and now I even can go long distance walking in a slow pace which I > couldn't do 2 months ago. But I will ask my doctor about it when I see > him this month. I just feel that this is just my new life and I just > have to get use to it. Other asthma person told me it take a long time > for the attacks to stop with exercise I just feel so frustrated my > health never controlled my life before I even have to cancel activities > if my breathing not good enough to go out cause going out means I have > to use my lungs more plus deal with perfumes and smoke which are 2 of my > biggest allergies. But I don't wanna end up in the hospital neither > where they take forever to figure out how to treat my condition. I > guess I'll figure something out eventually. I guess. > > HUGS!!! > PRECIOUS MARIE > JESUS LIVES! > mother of Tomas-spinal bifida, hydrophaleus, sciolosis, > right ear deafness, epilepsy (Tonic-clonic, absence, complex partial, > simple partial, atonic, myoclonic), left-field blindness, tethered cord, > allergies, ezema, lazy eye, developmentally delayed > Anastasia-ezema, allergies, nosebleeds > -mild mental disability(MMD),ezema, allergies, asthma > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 11, 2004 Report Share Posted April 11, 2004 Shaz, So swimming is the only exercising I can do? If that's the case I guess I need to see about joining a gym. No swimming pool in this house. HUGS!!! PRECIOUS MARIE JESUS LIVES! mother of Tomas-spinal bifida, hydrophaleus, sciolosis, right ear deafness, epilepsy (Tonic-clonic, absence, complex partial, simple partial, atonic, myoclonic), left-field blindness, tethered cord, allergies, ezema, lazy eye, developmentally delayed Anastasia-ezema, allergies, nosebleeds -mild mental disability(MMD),ezema, allergies, asthma Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 11, 2004 Report Share Posted April 11, 2004 hi, it wasn't just swimming, but i have a poor memory so i only remembered the swimming because it's what i decided to do after i read the leaflet, learn to swim. unfortunately i'm rubbish at it, lol! there were other things mentioned, and tips on how to avoid asthma when exercising, but i forgot most of it, as i get hayfever most of the year round i don't really do outdoors stuff much ... others might have better ideas than i do :-) what about taking antihistamine? or asking your doctor about singulair? shaz Re: exercise was Re: Hit there, > Shaz, > > So swimming is the only exercising I can do? If that's the case I guess > I need to see about joining a gym. No swimming pool in this house. > > HUGS!!! > PRECIOUS MARIE > JESUS LIVES! > mother of Tomas-spinal bifida, hydrophaleus, sciolosis, > right ear deafness, epilepsy (Tonic-clonic, absence, complex partial, > simple partial, atonic, myoclonic), left-field blindness, tethered cord, > allergies, ezema, lazy eye, developmentally delayed > Anastasia-ezema, allergies, nosebleeds > -mild mental disability(MMD),ezema, allergies, asthma > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 11, 2004 Report Share Posted April 11, 2004 hi, it wasn't just swimming, but i have a poor memory so i only remembered the swimming because it's what i decided to do after i read the leaflet, learn to swim. unfortunately i'm rubbish at it, lol! there were other things mentioned, and tips on how to avoid asthma when exercising, but i forgot most of it, as i get hayfever most of the year round i don't really do outdoors stuff much ... others might have better ideas than i do :-) what about taking antihistamine? or asking your doctor about singulair? shaz Re: exercise was Re: Hit there, > Shaz, > > So swimming is the only exercising I can do? If that's the case I guess > I need to see about joining a gym. No swimming pool in this house. > > HUGS!!! > PRECIOUS MARIE > JESUS LIVES! > mother of Tomas-spinal bifida, hydrophaleus, sciolosis, > right ear deafness, epilepsy (Tonic-clonic, absence, complex partial, > simple partial, atonic, myoclonic), left-field blindness, tethered cord, > allergies, ezema, lazy eye, developmentally delayed > Anastasia-ezema, allergies, nosebleeds > -mild mental disability(MMD),ezema, allergies, asthma > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 11, 2004 Report Share Posted April 11, 2004 hi, i had a look here http://www.inhousedrugstore.com/asthma-allergy/asthma-allergy.html and singulair is expensive isn't it :-( Re: exercise was Re: Hit there, > Shaz, > > I couldn't afford that one so they put me on another one instead but not > sure which it is they had gave me 2 different ones and one was for > allergies. > > HUGS!!! > PRECIOUS MARIE > JESUS LIVES! > mother of Tomas-spinal bifida, hydrophaleus, sciolosis, > right ear deafness, epilepsy (Tonic-clonic, absence, complex partial, > simple partial, atonic, myoclonic), left-field blindness, tethered cord, > allergies, ezema, lazy eye, developmentally delayed > Anastasia-ezema, allergies, nosebleeds > -mild mental disability(MMD),ezema, allergies, asthma > > > > -------------------------------------------------------------------------- ------ > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 11, 2004 Report Share Posted April 11, 2004 hi, i had a look here http://www.inhousedrugstore.com/asthma-allergy/asthma-allergy.html and singulair is expensive isn't it :-( Re: exercise was Re: Hit there, > Shaz, > > I couldn't afford that one so they put me on another one instead but not > sure which it is they had gave me 2 different ones and one was for > allergies. > > HUGS!!! > PRECIOUS MARIE > JESUS LIVES! > mother of Tomas-spinal bifida, hydrophaleus, sciolosis, > right ear deafness, epilepsy (Tonic-clonic, absence, complex partial, > simple partial, atonic, myoclonic), left-field blindness, tethered cord, > allergies, ezema, lazy eye, developmentally delayed > Anastasia-ezema, allergies, nosebleeds > -mild mental disability(MMD),ezema, allergies, asthma > > > > -------------------------------------------------------------------------- ------ > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 11, 2004 Report Share Posted April 11, 2004 Thanks! Yes it is. HUGS!!! PRECIOUS MARIE JESUS LIVES! mother of Tomas-spinal bifida, hydrophaleus, sciolosis, right ear deafness, epilepsy (Tonic-clonic, absence, complex partial, simple partial, atonic, myoclonic), left-field blindness, tethered cord, allergies, ezema, lazy eye, developmentally delayed Anastasia-ezema, allergies, nosebleeds -mild mental disability(MMD),ezema, allergies, asthma Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 11, 2004 Report Share Posted April 11, 2004 Thanks! Yes it is. HUGS!!! PRECIOUS MARIE JESUS LIVES! mother of Tomas-spinal bifida, hydrophaleus, sciolosis, right ear deafness, epilepsy (Tonic-clonic, absence, complex partial, simple partial, atonic, myoclonic), left-field blindness, tethered cord, allergies, ezema, lazy eye, developmentally delayed Anastasia-ezema, allergies, nosebleeds -mild mental disability(MMD),ezema, allergies, asthma Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 11, 2004 Report Share Posted April 11, 2004 Got all of that. I found an asthma list it's: walking bicycling skating swimming tried walking-attack have no skates and skating rinks are closed when kids are in school so all is left is bicycling and swimming and don't know if i can afford a gym so bicycling is the only thing I can do so will try that if doesn't work i'll just go shopping and i know i can do that even if i don't buy anything to keep my body active for the rest of my life HUGS!!! PRECIOUS MARIE JESUS LIVES! mother of Tomas-spinal bifida, hydrophaleus, sciolosis, right ear deafness, epilepsy (Tonic-clonic, absence, complex partial, simple partial, atonic, myoclonic), left-field blindness, tethered cord, allergies, ezema, lazy eye, developmentally delayed Anastasia-ezema, allergies, nosebleeds -mild mental disability(MMD),ezema, allergies, asthma Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 11, 2004 Report Share Posted April 11, 2004 Got all of that. I found an asthma list it's: walking bicycling skating swimming tried walking-attack have no skates and skating rinks are closed when kids are in school so all is left is bicycling and swimming and don't know if i can afford a gym so bicycling is the only thing I can do so will try that if doesn't work i'll just go shopping and i know i can do that even if i don't buy anything to keep my body active for the rest of my life HUGS!!! PRECIOUS MARIE JESUS LIVES! mother of Tomas-spinal bifida, hydrophaleus, sciolosis, right ear deafness, epilepsy (Tonic-clonic, absence, complex partial, simple partial, atonic, myoclonic), left-field blindness, tethered cord, allergies, ezema, lazy eye, developmentally delayed Anastasia-ezema, allergies, nosebleeds -mild mental disability(MMD),ezema, allergies, asthma Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 11, 2004 Report Share Posted April 11, 2004 i find bycycling really hard :-( shopping too, for some reason i get really bad asthma when i'm carrying a bag or two! what about ice skating? that doesn't affect my asthma at all and i love it. are you in the states? we have an indoor skating rink, it's expensive, and more than an hour's drive away so we only go once or twice a year. we also go walking on the chase (huge forest area) but we all have to take antihistamine first, lol! my son and i both get hayfever and eczema from grass/trees/etc. this might sound daft (and it has an initial outlay but nowhere near as expensive as a gym for 6 months) but the best exercise i get is in front of the playstation 2!! we have dance mats, one of the dance games even tells you how many calories you burn off, and the eye toy is really good fun, and very energetic. perfect indoor exercise for anyone who gets hayfever outdoors :-) shaz Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 11, 2004 Report Share Posted April 11, 2004 i find bycycling really hard :-( shopping too, for some reason i get really bad asthma when i'm carrying a bag or two! what about ice skating? that doesn't affect my asthma at all and i love it. are you in the states? we have an indoor skating rink, it's expensive, and more than an hour's drive away so we only go once or twice a year. we also go walking on the chase (huge forest area) but we all have to take antihistamine first, lol! my son and i both get hayfever and eczema from grass/trees/etc. this might sound daft (and it has an initial outlay but nowhere near as expensive as a gym for 6 months) but the best exercise i get is in front of the playstation 2!! we have dance mats, one of the dance games even tells you how many calories you burn off, and the eye toy is really good fun, and very energetic. perfect indoor exercise for anyone who gets hayfever outdoors :-) shaz Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 11, 2004 Report Share Posted April 11, 2004 i find bycycling really hard :-( shopping too, for some reason i get really bad asthma when i'm carrying a bag or two! what about ice skating? that doesn't affect my asthma at all and i love it. are you in the states? we have an indoor skating rink, it's expensive, and more than an hour's drive away so we only go once or twice a year. we also go walking on the chase (huge forest area) but we all have to take antihistamine first, lol! my son and i both get hayfever and eczema from grass/trees/etc. this might sound daft (and it has an initial outlay but nowhere near as expensive as a gym for 6 months) but the best exercise i get is in front of the playstation 2!! we have dance mats, one of the dance games even tells you how many calories you burn off, and the eye toy is really good fun, and very energetic. perfect indoor exercise for anyone who gets hayfever outdoors :-) shaz Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 12, 2004 Report Share Posted April 12, 2004 >I found an asthma list it's: > >walking >bicycling >skating >swimming OK soooooooo basically I do the cheapest here - walking! I already had to get decent walking boots/sports shoes because of another problem. Since the Asthma diagnosis I first had to cut back on it all because I was soooooo breathless etc, then I found convenient " chairs " on the way to things, then I found I had to dawdle walking anywhere and never for long walks. Then the doc suggested 2 puffs of rescue inhaler 15mins before I left on walks as he said it was a form of sport like rugby! I never equated it to sport just a casual stroll to help keep my ankles/knees flexible. Now I can take dawdle walk without initial inhaler however if I know I'm going to be gone more than say 30mins I use inhaler before I go - I take rest breaks on " chairs " Last week something happened that I didn't expect to happen :-) I went to a meeting which usually has good car parking but the whole carpark proper was cut up with workman and gear sooooooo I parked down on the roadside/kerb AND then DIDN'T think about it - walked up a fairly steep but short hill and then up 2 flights of stairs. OK I was a little breathless on sitting down and then it became apparent to me and my neighbour that I was in trouble! I skedaddled out to Ladies Loo and got out rescue inhaler and took 2 puffs - waiting & then soooooo no one got worried strolled back into meeting - checked watch and then kept re-checking until 15min later my neighbour wasn't looking soooooo worried!! It MADE me realise how serious things are & that next time I'm in that predicament I should make a decision to either drive home straight away or be late to meeting and take rescue inhaler 2 puffs - wait 15mins and then attempt walk. I was thinking of learning to swim properly when my ankle/knee probs were in the foreground but it all was tooooo much of a problem - this is when I didn't know I had asthma but got tired easily and the symptoms didn't really fit the other diagnosis. Now I don't know - maybe next Summer I will consider it although the ankles are not strong enough for the kicking motion soooooooo we shall see. I cannot use a bike because of my balance problems and I know that skating will fit right into the balance problems as well :-) in NZ " chairs " are anything I can sit on comfortably - I cannot sit on the ground because I have a devil of time getting up again with my wonky ankles/knees! <g> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 12, 2004 Report Share Posted April 12, 2004 >I found an asthma list it's: > >walking >bicycling >skating >swimming OK soooooooo basically I do the cheapest here - walking! I already had to get decent walking boots/sports shoes because of another problem. Since the Asthma diagnosis I first had to cut back on it all because I was soooooo breathless etc, then I found convenient " chairs " on the way to things, then I found I had to dawdle walking anywhere and never for long walks. Then the doc suggested 2 puffs of rescue inhaler 15mins before I left on walks as he said it was a form of sport like rugby! I never equated it to sport just a casual stroll to help keep my ankles/knees flexible. Now I can take dawdle walk without initial inhaler however if I know I'm going to be gone more than say 30mins I use inhaler before I go - I take rest breaks on " chairs " Last week something happened that I didn't expect to happen :-) I went to a meeting which usually has good car parking but the whole carpark proper was cut up with workman and gear sooooooo I parked down on the roadside/kerb AND then DIDN'T think about it - walked up a fairly steep but short hill and then up 2 flights of stairs. OK I was a little breathless on sitting down and then it became apparent to me and my neighbour that I was in trouble! I skedaddled out to Ladies Loo and got out rescue inhaler and took 2 puffs - waiting & then soooooo no one got worried strolled back into meeting - checked watch and then kept re-checking until 15min later my neighbour wasn't looking soooooo worried!! It MADE me realise how serious things are & that next time I'm in that predicament I should make a decision to either drive home straight away or be late to meeting and take rescue inhaler 2 puffs - wait 15mins and then attempt walk. I was thinking of learning to swim properly when my ankle/knee probs were in the foreground but it all was tooooo much of a problem - this is when I didn't know I had asthma but got tired easily and the symptoms didn't really fit the other diagnosis. Now I don't know - maybe next Summer I will consider it although the ankles are not strong enough for the kicking motion soooooooo we shall see. I cannot use a bike because of my balance problems and I know that skating will fit right into the balance problems as well :-) in NZ " chairs " are anything I can sit on comfortably - I cannot sit on the ground because I have a devil of time getting up again with my wonky ankles/knees! <g> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 12, 2004 Report Share Posted April 12, 2004 you sound like my son and he has spinal bifida. HUGS!!! PRECIOUS MARIE JESUS LIVES! mother of Tomas-spinal bifida, hydrophaleus, sciolosis, right ear deafness, epilepsy (Tonic-clonic, absence, complex partial, simple partial, atonic, myoclonic), left-field blindness, tethered cord, allergies, ezema, lazy eye, developmentally delayed Anastasia-ezema, allergies, nosebleeds -mild mental disability(MMD),ezema, allergies, asthma Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 12, 2004 Report Share Posted April 12, 2004 you sound like my son and he has spinal bifida. HUGS!!! PRECIOUS MARIE JESUS LIVES! mother of Tomas-spinal bifida, hydrophaleus, sciolosis, right ear deafness, epilepsy (Tonic-clonic, absence, complex partial, simple partial, atonic, myoclonic), left-field blindness, tethered cord, allergies, ezema, lazy eye, developmentally delayed Anastasia-ezema, allergies, nosebleeds -mild mental disability(MMD),ezema, allergies, asthma Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 12, 2004 Report Share Posted April 12, 2004 you sound like my son and he has spinal bifida. HUGS!!! PRECIOUS MARIE JESUS LIVES! mother of Tomas-spinal bifida, hydrophaleus, sciolosis, right ear deafness, epilepsy (Tonic-clonic, absence, complex partial, simple partial, atonic, myoclonic), left-field blindness, tethered cord, allergies, ezema, lazy eye, developmentally delayed Anastasia-ezema, allergies, nosebleeds -mild mental disability(MMD),ezema, allergies, asthma Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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