Guest guest Posted May 10, 2004 Report Share Posted May 10, 2004 I would ask Henri Bergson. Actually, I posted this on this board by accident. This was mainly for my other boards with other ailments I suffer from because it was so appropro, but if I had to put it in the asthma/allergy context, I'm always reading up on new ways to take care of my lung condition and open to new ways of treating it. Always striving to make myself better. Angie > > > To exist is to change, to change is to mature, to mature is to go on > > creating oneself endlessly. > > > > Henri Bergson > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 22, 2004 Report Share Posted May 22, 2004 Senthil, Is this about learning to be happy and content where you are instead of trying to strive for better. Why can't we be happy and content where we are and yet still be open for better? I'm told that I'm a highly motivated person. I'd like to think of that for the most part a good thing instead of a short-coming. Maybe I don't go into things as deep as you. I guess I have so much on my mind and stuff that I don't have the opportunity to examine life under the microscope like you do. I take everyday as it comes and everyday is another oppotunity to learn. I don't need to know everything. In my belief system only one knows everything. The rest of us are imperfect human beings and I'm not striving for perfection, just learning to get through life as best as I can and believe in something greater exists after my tour on this Earth is done. Angie > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > This one really got me thinking so I thought I would > > share it > > > > > > with > > > > > > > > you guys. I hope it's as enlightening to you as it was to > > me! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The thing that matters is not what you bear, but how you > > bear > > > > it. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Seneca > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 22, 2004 Report Share Posted May 22, 2004 Senthil, Is this about learning to be happy and content where you are instead of trying to strive for better. Why can't we be happy and content where we are and yet still be open for better? I'm told that I'm a highly motivated person. I'd like to think of that for the most part a good thing instead of a short-coming. Maybe I don't go into things as deep as you. I guess I have so much on my mind and stuff that I don't have the opportunity to examine life under the microscope like you do. I take everyday as it comes and everyday is another oppotunity to learn. I don't need to know everything. In my belief system only one knows everything. The rest of us are imperfect human beings and I'm not striving for perfection, just learning to get through life as best as I can and believe in something greater exists after my tour on this Earth is done. Angie > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > This one really got me thinking so I thought I would > > share it > > > > > > with > > > > > > > > you guys. I hope it's as enlightening to you as it was to > > me! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The thing that matters is not what you bear, but how you > > bear > > > > it. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Seneca > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 22, 2004 Report Share Posted May 22, 2004 Senthil, Is this about learning to be happy and content where you are instead of trying to strive for better. Why can't we be happy and content where we are and yet still be open for better? I'm told that I'm a highly motivated person. I'd like to think of that for the most part a good thing instead of a short-coming. Maybe I don't go into things as deep as you. I guess I have so much on my mind and stuff that I don't have the opportunity to examine life under the microscope like you do. I take everyday as it comes and everyday is another oppotunity to learn. I don't need to know everything. In my belief system only one knows everything. The rest of us are imperfect human beings and I'm not striving for perfection, just learning to get through life as best as I can and believe in something greater exists after my tour on this Earth is done. Angie > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > This one really got me thinking so I thought I would > > share it > > > > > > with > > > > > > > > you guys. I hope it's as enlightening to you as it was to > > me! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The thing that matters is not what you bear, but how you > > bear > > > > it. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Seneca > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 22, 2004 Report Share Posted May 22, 2004 Dear Angie! I am sorry that you are thinking onceagain you are a chicken but you are not,you are an eagle.Anthoy describes this very nicely! alas when eagle has born it put into with chickens and it start believeing its chicken.one day it looks at the sky and seen an eagle infact when that eagle has also seen this (chicken)eagle who thinks its chicken it came to earth.its asked chicken eagle to fly on the sky. well,chicken eagle first got scared about the eagle.oh my,thats the bird of sky.I am the bird of land.that sky eagle told somany times that our eagle also an eagle.but chicken eagle was infact didnt recgonise that its eagle simply becuase it was told from childhood that its chicken.what the hell can sky eagle do? It felt pity for chicken eagle and started flying in the sky,above and above,so far from the earth! oh my,its land of sky! > Why can't we be happy and content > where we are and yet still be open for better? Ms.Angie,if you are happy right at the moment then why do you want to go somewhereelse? dont you like happiness? please answer this question.is that mean dont you like happiness? what do you mean by better? putting so much money on my bank account,having sex with all beautiful women in the world,winning everytime,being hero,the number one in the world,are they better state? what are you talking about better state mean? do you think your quality of life has increased in the last 10 years? If that increased what made that? money,fame,health,what? I will tell you one thing all those are nonsense.we taught nonsense from childhood. I take everyday as it comes > and everyday is another oppotunity to learn. Ms.Angie,I sorry to criticize your " views " once agin here.how many days you have already spent on your life? why didnt you learn anything still? I will tell you one thing, quite honestly you dont want to learn anything. what you are doing daily is nothing but cleaning your ass after you download your crap! and you are thinking that you are learning.what are you going to learn? how do clean the ass still better way? please see that learning is not that easy,its needs lot of focus.have you ever thought why are happy today or why are you sad today? rather just experiencing emotionally.I think the system we have adopt has got serious probelm.if we follow this pattern we dont learn anything. learing is not praising the ass of the god! In my belief system only one knows everything. The rest > of us are imperfect human beings and I'm not striving for perfection, > just learning to get through life as best as I can and believe in > something greater exists after my tour on this Earth is done. what do you mean by perfection and inperfection? I dont understand this. is that your jesus christ is perfect? you say may be yes.if you have born as muslim then your allah is perfect not jesus? if you have born as hindu then you say krishna is perfect? even in hindus there are somany perfections?!?!? krishna,ram,siva etc,etc.which is perfect here? I am sorry Ms.Angie,I am not fool to believe all this nonsense. please,I request you to see things deeply.you are brainwashed to believe that you are chicken.its really difficult to see beyond brainwahsing.there is land in this earth,where there is only singing,nomore headaches and heartaches and if you are not able to see that I pity for you! I am sorry,you are making yourself fool! Many Greetings, Senthil Kumar.S. > Senthil, > > Is this about learning to be happy and content where you are instead > of trying to strive for better. Why can't we be happy and content > where we are and yet still be open for better? I'm told that I'm a > highly motivated person. I'd like to think of that for the most part > a good thing instead of a short-coming. > > Maybe I don't go into things as deep as you. I guess I have so much > on my mind and stuff that I don't have the opportunity to examine > life under the microscope like you do. I take everyday as it comes > and everyday is another oppotunity to learn. I don't need to know > everything. In my belief system only one knows everything. The rest > of us are imperfect human beings and I'm not striving for perfection, > just learning to get through life as best as I can and believe in > something greater exists after my tour on this Earth is done. > > Angie > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > This one really got me thinking so I thought I would > > > share it > > > > > > > with > > > > > > > > > you guys. I hope it's as enlightening to you as it > was to > > > me! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The thing that matters is not what you bear, but how > you > > > bear > > > > > it. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Seneca > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 24, 2004 Report Share Posted May 24, 2004 >Now maybe you believe you know everything, but how can you prove that? >How can you say your way of thinking is right...and everyone else's >is wrong? Ms.Angie,you are imagining too much.I have never told you that whatever I say is correct.I have told you somany times that I trying to understand things.Infact,I have quoted somany peoples like anthony,JK during my communications.infact,most of what I am talking here are not only mine.well,infact it looks funny for me since you are asking me to prove whether I am taking truth or not.I have got one question for you,will you ask those questions to your spiritual masters? you know whatever bible said about how the universe formed is proved wrong. still dont you people celebrated holy books?,I am talking about all the holy books exist in the wrold.how can be something which is written by a primitive man who is highly ignorant can be holy? the funny thing is that a person who said the way universe formed is not soemthing like bible says still thinks bible as holy book.alas,thats the probelm of brain washing.well,Ms.Angie,I ready to experiment myself and see whether I am saying right or wrong.If I am right thats fine.if I am wrong then I get right concepts.could be please explain me which part,do you want me to prove? I am ready for your challenge simply because I want to find the truth and I am not interested to beg evrybody to please accpet me, what I am saying is only correct and I am the great. but that doesn't mean I have to > take it on as my own. according to science something right should be right for everybody otherwise we dont accpet that as right. > don't understand why people can't discuss their differences > peacefully, why a bunch of people are fighting over land? But that's > something I guess I will never understand. I think there are greedy > people out there, who want everything to themselves and don't care > about their fellow person, but that's life. What can you really do > about it? I do what I can, but don't get worked up over things I have > no control over. Not good for me. Ms.Angie,now you may be sitting in your wonderful home and drinking a nice coffee! just imagine if you are the person who has been abused,who has been made nude and asked to cover whole body with excrements,who has been abused sexually,who has been killed by four people and that was put it into the website,(they say after killing god is great!) who has been one of the victim of sept 11 attack even in your country, then what will your stand? do you say you dont understand any thing? please Ms.Angie,I am talking seriously,who is god? and he is with whom? and why is he with those people? due to believe god is with you atleast? can you tell me one person you hate somuch in htis earth and we will ask that person god is with whom and if he/she is your religion he/she will the same god is with him/her.how can be god at same time with two people who accuse each other the other doing wrong. just forgot even about who is doing right or wrong.Ms.Angie aware of the danger its not today may be tomorrow you may become a victim.if we face another world war then that may be due to only religion! Many Greetings, Senthil Kumar.S. > I'm just saying that no one on earth can say they are all knowing. > Now maybe you believe you know everything, but how can you prove that? > How can you say your way of thinking is right...and everyone else's > is wrong? It may be right for you, but that doesn't mean I have to > take it on as my own. I like my thought process and how I handle my > life and what I'm not happy with, I'm working on. > > I'm also saying that I accept the fact that I will make mistakes in > life and it's okay. I'm not expected to be perfect. Taking religion > and spiritualness out of it...no one is perfect. No one knows > everything! Someone may be knowledgable about asthma, but that > doesn't mean they know space and history and what's right or wrong. > Even war is like a touchy subject for me. I don't think it's right. I > don't understand why people can't discuss their differences > peacefully, why a bunch of people are fighting over land? But that's > something I guess I will never understand. I think there are greedy > people out there, who want everything to themselves and don't care > about their fellow person, but that's life. What can you really do > about it? I do what I can, but don't get worked up over things I have > no control over. Not good for me. > > Angie > > > > Dear Angie! > > > > > In my belief system only one knows everything. The rest > > >of us are imperfect human beings and I'm not striving for > perfection, > > > > why do you think like that? ok,even put it into that way. > > lets assume jesus is the perfect man,I have to assume that way > > since I am taking to christian right.If I am talking to a muslim > > then I have to assume allah is a perfect man.why do you > > have to worship jusus? why do you have to adore him? what is the > use of > > doing that? why dont you try to understand him?I dont know somuch > in and > > out about all those " idols " existing in the world,including > jesus.but I > > know jesus has got compassion!if jesus exist today > > what will be his stand on all the wars going on in this earth? will > he also > > participate in the wars? what is the use being christian and > praying > > jesus but you cannt even atlleast imitate externally (I mean forget > even > > about internal imitaing,I mean being jusus! you know there is > somuch > > difference between being jesus and behaving like jesus!) what is > the use > > of worship? adoration gives only onething! thats is nothing but > making > > those priests secure. > > > > due you think people who goes to temple,church and mosque are > spiritual > > people? my god,what a crazy it is?!?!!? I go to temple I pray god > that I > > have to ling long,that Spirituality,I pray god sothat I come first > in the > > exam,so,I will be happy and all others will be unhappy,thats > > Spirituality,well,I goto temple I pray god that my family should > > live long,thats Spirituality,I pray god that my should win in the > > war,thats Spirituality,I have read one article recently itseems > that during > > second world war both germanians and their opposite groups thought > that > > god is with them.god is with whom? with muslims or with christians > > or with hindus.sadma things god is with him.bush also things god is > > with him.what the crazy is this? a person with a beard cannt walk > > in the states itseems, a person who looks like christian cannt > > walk in iraq.there is no security to inidans in pakistan and for > > pakistanis in india.hindu hates muslims,muslims hates > > christians,christinas hates muslims and in total everybody hates > evrybody. > > but they say there are in love.I dont know what is meant by love > and what > > is meant spirituality? and ofcourse what is the use those celebrate > > " idols " whether its jesus or its allah or even its krishna! I think > these > > " idols " done more damage than good for what is called humanity! > please > > go and pray your jesus keep on HATEING YOURSELF and OTHERS! > > > > Many Greetings, > > Senthil Kumar.S. > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 24, 2004 Report Share Posted May 24, 2004 >Now maybe you believe you know everything, but how can you prove that? >How can you say your way of thinking is right...and everyone else's >is wrong? Ms.Angie,you are imagining too much.I have never told you that whatever I say is correct.I have told you somany times that I trying to understand things.Infact,I have quoted somany peoples like anthony,JK during my communications.infact,most of what I am talking here are not only mine.well,infact it looks funny for me since you are asking me to prove whether I am taking truth or not.I have got one question for you,will you ask those questions to your spiritual masters? you know whatever bible said about how the universe formed is proved wrong. still dont you people celebrated holy books?,I am talking about all the holy books exist in the wrold.how can be something which is written by a primitive man who is highly ignorant can be holy? the funny thing is that a person who said the way universe formed is not soemthing like bible says still thinks bible as holy book.alas,thats the probelm of brain washing.well,Ms.Angie,I ready to experiment myself and see whether I am saying right or wrong.If I am right thats fine.if I am wrong then I get right concepts.could be please explain me which part,do you want me to prove? I am ready for your challenge simply because I want to find the truth and I am not interested to beg evrybody to please accpet me, what I am saying is only correct and I am the great. but that doesn't mean I have to > take it on as my own. according to science something right should be right for everybody otherwise we dont accpet that as right. > don't understand why people can't discuss their differences > peacefully, why a bunch of people are fighting over land? But that's > something I guess I will never understand. I think there are greedy > people out there, who want everything to themselves and don't care > about their fellow person, but that's life. What can you really do > about it? I do what I can, but don't get worked up over things I have > no control over. Not good for me. Ms.Angie,now you may be sitting in your wonderful home and drinking a nice coffee! just imagine if you are the person who has been abused,who has been made nude and asked to cover whole body with excrements,who has been abused sexually,who has been killed by four people and that was put it into the website,(they say after killing god is great!) who has been one of the victim of sept 11 attack even in your country, then what will your stand? do you say you dont understand any thing? please Ms.Angie,I am talking seriously,who is god? and he is with whom? and why is he with those people? due to believe god is with you atleast? can you tell me one person you hate somuch in htis earth and we will ask that person god is with whom and if he/she is your religion he/she will the same god is with him/her.how can be god at same time with two people who accuse each other the other doing wrong. just forgot even about who is doing right or wrong.Ms.Angie aware of the danger its not today may be tomorrow you may become a victim.if we face another world war then that may be due to only religion! Many Greetings, Senthil Kumar.S. > I'm just saying that no one on earth can say they are all knowing. > Now maybe you believe you know everything, but how can you prove that? > How can you say your way of thinking is right...and everyone else's > is wrong? It may be right for you, but that doesn't mean I have to > take it on as my own. I like my thought process and how I handle my > life and what I'm not happy with, I'm working on. > > I'm also saying that I accept the fact that I will make mistakes in > life and it's okay. I'm not expected to be perfect. Taking religion > and spiritualness out of it...no one is perfect. No one knows > everything! Someone may be knowledgable about asthma, but that > doesn't mean they know space and history and what's right or wrong. > Even war is like a touchy subject for me. I don't think it's right. I > don't understand why people can't discuss their differences > peacefully, why a bunch of people are fighting over land? But that's > something I guess I will never understand. I think there are greedy > people out there, who want everything to themselves and don't care > about their fellow person, but that's life. What can you really do > about it? I do what I can, but don't get worked up over things I have > no control over. Not good for me. > > Angie > > > > Dear Angie! > > > > > In my belief system only one knows everything. The rest > > >of us are imperfect human beings and I'm not striving for > perfection, > > > > why do you think like that? ok,even put it into that way. > > lets assume jesus is the perfect man,I have to assume that way > > since I am taking to christian right.If I am talking to a muslim > > then I have to assume allah is a perfect man.why do you > > have to worship jusus? why do you have to adore him? what is the > use of > > doing that? why dont you try to understand him?I dont know somuch > in and > > out about all those " idols " existing in the world,including > jesus.but I > > know jesus has got compassion!if jesus exist today > > what will be his stand on all the wars going on in this earth? will > he also > > participate in the wars? what is the use being christian and > praying > > jesus but you cannt even atlleast imitate externally (I mean forget > even > > about internal imitaing,I mean being jusus! you know there is > somuch > > difference between being jesus and behaving like jesus!) what is > the use > > of worship? adoration gives only onething! thats is nothing but > making > > those priests secure. > > > > due you think people who goes to temple,church and mosque are > spiritual > > people? my god,what a crazy it is?!?!!? I go to temple I pray god > that I > > have to ling long,that Spirituality,I pray god sothat I come first > in the > > exam,so,I will be happy and all others will be unhappy,thats > > Spirituality,well,I goto temple I pray god that my family should > > live long,thats Spirituality,I pray god that my should win in the > > war,thats Spirituality,I have read one article recently itseems > that during > > second world war both germanians and their opposite groups thought > that > > god is with them.god is with whom? with muslims or with christians > > or with hindus.sadma things god is with him.bush also things god is > > with him.what the crazy is this? a person with a beard cannt walk > > in the states itseems, a person who looks like christian cannt > > walk in iraq.there is no security to inidans in pakistan and for > > pakistanis in india.hindu hates muslims,muslims hates > > christians,christinas hates muslims and in total everybody hates > evrybody. > > but they say there are in love.I dont know what is meant by love > and what > > is meant spirituality? and ofcourse what is the use those celebrate > > " idols " whether its jesus or its allah or even its krishna! I think > these > > " idols " done more damage than good for what is called humanity! > please > > go and pray your jesus keep on HATEING YOURSELF and OTHERS! > > > > Many Greetings, > > Senthil Kumar.S. > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 24, 2004 Report Share Posted May 24, 2004 well Ms.Angie! I think you read me wrong most of the time.I am highly active guy. I have exercised last two days,daily more than one hour.I have got Asthma,RA,mild tremor (I shake bit after exercise) how will you explain that? I am not lazy,infact I am highly active.when you are harmony with the present state means that you should be lazy.hope those medicines helps you to get out of the allergy! Many Greetings, Senthil Kumar.S. > Not a craving Senthil when it comes to my allergies and asthma. When > I can get them under control, not bad, but right now, I'm miserable. > Sometimes medication helps and sometimes it doesn't. Sometimes I > sleep good and sometimes I don't. I'm just saying that it's okay to > be happy where I am if that doesn't mean I get lazy and don't care if > I live in a cardboard box. I don't need to keep up with the 'es, > but I do need to make sure that I'm healthy so I keep my job and can > support myself. These things are important. Everybody at work and > home is happy that I'm finally starting to take my health more > seriously instead of just settling for feeling miserable and taking > sick days because my condition isn't fully under control. > > Angie > > > > Dear Angie! > > > > > Could you imagine how much happier I > > >will be if I can reduce my sick days from allergies?! > > > > no,I am sorry I cannt imagine that.if you cured your allergies, > > you will crave for somethingelse,may be you are happy for > > two days then you start worry about curing somethingelse! > > your cravings never going to stop. > > > > Many Greetings, > > Senthil Kumar.S. > > > > ps : please note that most of the time I used to talk about > > psychologial sufferings,those disappointments,those failures, > > those conflicts,those fears,that emptiness which always remain > > in the life,those anxieties,those angers,those stress,that > > depression and all those negative emotions. > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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