Guest guest Posted July 21, 2004 Report Share Posted July 21, 2004 Dear Ashok Sir, I dont know if this is the best thing to do- but copy pasting in notepad/wordpad allows you to wordwrap to the page. That is what I have been doing to read Mukund Sir's mails..yes- they are too good to miss just because its hard to move up and down again and again. Ive noticed one thing however after coming to the US,that people are able to spell out exactly what troubles them. This is principally because (IMO) there is a patented solution to most practical problems. In India- we get so used to working around problems- that after a time we dont even think of something as annoying. Im still in the Indian frame of mind- and didnt even realise that it was taking time and effort to move up and down each time...I finally started copy pasting the mails- but even then hadnt consciously identified any problem.. Hence was quite surprised (read enlightened) to read your mail:) Gayatri 1997 Batch.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 21, 2004 Report Share Posted July 21, 2004 Dear Ashok Sir, I dont know if this is the best thing to do- but copy pasting in notepad/wordpad allows you to wordwrap to the page. That is what I have been doing to read Mukund Sir's mails..yes- they are too good to miss just because its hard to move up and down again and again. Ive noticed one thing however after coming to the US,that people are able to spell out exactly what troubles them. This is principally because (IMO) there is a patented solution to most practical problems. In India- we get so used to working around problems- that after a time we dont even think of something as annoying. Im still in the Indian frame of mind- and didnt even realise that it was taking time and effort to move up and down each time...I finally started copy pasting the mails- but even then hadnt consciously identified any problem.. Hence was quite surprised (read enlightened) to read your mail:) Gayatri 1997 Batch.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 21, 2004 Report Share Posted July 21, 2004 Dear Ashok Sir, I dont know if this is the best thing to do- but copy pasting in notepad/wordpad allows you to wordwrap to the page. That is what I have been doing to read Mukund Sir's mails..yes- they are too good to miss just because its hard to move up and down again and again. Ive noticed one thing however after coming to the US,that people are able to spell out exactly what troubles them. This is principally because (IMO) there is a patented solution to most practical problems. In India- we get so used to working around problems- that after a time we dont even think of something as annoying. Im still in the Indian frame of mind- and didnt even realise that it was taking time and effort to move up and down each time...I finally started copy pasting the mails- but even then hadnt consciously identified any problem.. Hence was quite surprised (read enlightened) to read your mail:) Gayatri 1997 Batch.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 23, 2004 Report Share Posted July 23, 2004 Dear Ashok and Gayatri, Read your mails Thanks for appreciating my writings.But I was surprise to know that Ashok has to move left and right while reading the same while Gayatri has to read it moving up and down. Now this time while writing I have kept the window size medium so Ashok has not to move sideways while as I am keeping it small enough so there is no need to make it up and down. Please let me know has this corrected the trouble you are facing? Mukund (1974) Formatting Mukund's mails are so interesting that cannot pass on them. But sometimes it is cumbersome because you have to move the page right or left to be able to read the page. Any savvy tech solutions Ravin, Kishore.. dear Mukund, Your mails are so illuminating. Neeti says how come I don't know all these stories. My only exposure to the medical field was in Sewagram- Wardha. As pediatric resident we used to see cases botched by the PPs. Sometimes the PP accompanied the patient as they were scared about the outcome ( obviously VIP patients ) But I still feel things were not as corrupt in places like Wardha atleast in those days. Looks like Neeti saw a lot in Delhi. We always used to hear about cut throat practices in big cities like Bombay. Obviously with high cost of living the bottomline matters. Your are candid and honest in your views and opinions........you handle this topic of private practice and ethics which most don't want to address !! Everybody will be benefited by your writeups....especially I think about the young impressionable students training at Sewagram ! Ashok 1984 p.s., the following is a pasted version....now if I reply directly then my mail also goes in the same format ! Dear All, I was happy to see that my jokes on Appendix have created a quite a hot academic discussion. (Kucchh Halchal Ho To Hi Mazaa Hai Na......! :-)) Here are few points I will like to add- 1) As Kishore rightly pointed out USG etc are meant for ruling out other diagnosis rather than diagnosing Appendicitis. In before USG days surgeons here used to look appendix in an plain X- ray abdomen and if asked they will say " It is to rule out ureteric stone we do X-ray. " ( Ofcourse after looking at the quality of the X ray performed by them was nothing can be diagnosed on it. Patient not prepared, Smallest Portable Xray Machine and 8th class passed compounder operating the same. The result used to be Photooo rather than X ray.:-) Is Ka Ek Kissa a Appendix at the end of this message) 2) Every appendicitis does not need surgery at all. With proper conservative management you can save so many surgeries. The appendix needs opening only if it is obstructed and leading to perforation. One of my Gynaecologist freind from Bhusawal has a Surgeon wife. He was stating that, " Being gynaecologist we need not do appendicectomies to feed ourselves. So when we do only indicated appendicectomies we have hardly 3 to 5 appendix surgeries in an year!!! " 3) The appendicectomy surgery has a very bad reputation. A son of my gynaecologist freind from Mumbai had pain in abdomen which was not quite fitting in Chronic appendicitis. So surgery was not performed. He was treated medically for an year or two for the intermittent pain in abdomen. without releif.All investigations also were in vain to point out the diagnosis. Then one of our surgeon freind from Nandurbar had visited his place. He after putting hand on his tummy said , " This boy needs laparatomy. I feel he is having Meckel's Diverticulum. " And Laparatomy proved his diagnosis. Moral of the story a)clinical judgment goes above all the investigations. Eyes can not see what mind doesn't know!! Now Kissa a Appendix --- Again this is a true story told by a senior GP over here.One surgeon had started his practice newly and he was enthusiastic for surgery. When one patient of pain in Lt illiac fossa went to him, he took an X ray and advised him immediate admission and an emergency appendicectomy. The patient came home weeping for preperation of admission. His neibour was clever enough. He said " Look man, you have pain on Left side and my relative operated for appendix had pain on right side. Let us go to our old GP. and confirm the need for surgery. " These two went to the GP. he after examining felt that it was just Dyspepsia and gave him Unienzyme tablet. and asked him to get the Xray plate from the surgeon. The patient went to surgeon to get it. The surgeon concerned had done only screening. Considering that what a villager will know he carelessly removed one Xray from his plates and handed over to him. GP after loking at the Xray said very seriously, " You really need a surgery. You have a twin pregnancy in your tummy. " The patient went back to surgeon and got back his fees for consultation and Xray. Thanks god for the good old days. Those days CPA was not there!!!!! Mukund(1974) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 23, 2004 Report Share Posted July 23, 2004 Dear Ashok and Gayatri, Read your mails Thanks for appreciating my writings.But I was surprise to know that Ashok has to move left and right while reading the same while Gayatri has to read it moving up and down. Now this time while writing I have kept the window size medium so Ashok has not to move sideways while as I am keeping it small enough so there is no need to make it up and down. Please let me know has this corrected the trouble you are facing? Mukund (1974) Formatting Mukund's mails are so interesting that cannot pass on them. But sometimes it is cumbersome because you have to move the page right or left to be able to read the page. Any savvy tech solutions Ravin, Kishore.. dear Mukund, Your mails are so illuminating. Neeti says how come I don't know all these stories. My only exposure to the medical field was in Sewagram- Wardha. As pediatric resident we used to see cases botched by the PPs. Sometimes the PP accompanied the patient as they were scared about the outcome ( obviously VIP patients ) But I still feel things were not as corrupt in places like Wardha atleast in those days. Looks like Neeti saw a lot in Delhi. We always used to hear about cut throat practices in big cities like Bombay. Obviously with high cost of living the bottomline matters. Your are candid and honest in your views and opinions........you handle this topic of private practice and ethics which most don't want to address !! Everybody will be benefited by your writeups....especially I think about the young impressionable students training at Sewagram ! Ashok 1984 p.s., the following is a pasted version....now if I reply directly then my mail also goes in the same format ! Dear All, I was happy to see that my jokes on Appendix have created a quite a hot academic discussion. (Kucchh Halchal Ho To Hi Mazaa Hai Na......! :-)) Here are few points I will like to add- 1) As Kishore rightly pointed out USG etc are meant for ruling out other diagnosis rather than diagnosing Appendicitis. In before USG days surgeons here used to look appendix in an plain X- ray abdomen and if asked they will say " It is to rule out ureteric stone we do X-ray. " ( Ofcourse after looking at the quality of the X ray performed by them was nothing can be diagnosed on it. Patient not prepared, Smallest Portable Xray Machine and 8th class passed compounder operating the same. The result used to be Photooo rather than X ray.:-) Is Ka Ek Kissa a Appendix at the end of this message) 2) Every appendicitis does not need surgery at all. With proper conservative management you can save so many surgeries. The appendix needs opening only if it is obstructed and leading to perforation. One of my Gynaecologist freind from Bhusawal has a Surgeon wife. He was stating that, " Being gynaecologist we need not do appendicectomies to feed ourselves. So when we do only indicated appendicectomies we have hardly 3 to 5 appendix surgeries in an year!!! " 3) The appendicectomy surgery has a very bad reputation. A son of my gynaecologist freind from Mumbai had pain in abdomen which was not quite fitting in Chronic appendicitis. So surgery was not performed. He was treated medically for an year or two for the intermittent pain in abdomen. without releif.All investigations also were in vain to point out the diagnosis. Then one of our surgeon freind from Nandurbar had visited his place. He after putting hand on his tummy said , " This boy needs laparatomy. I feel he is having Meckel's Diverticulum. " And Laparatomy proved his diagnosis. Moral of the story a)clinical judgment goes above all the investigations. Eyes can not see what mind doesn't know!! Now Kissa a Appendix --- Again this is a true story told by a senior GP over here.One surgeon had started his practice newly and he was enthusiastic for surgery. When one patient of pain in Lt illiac fossa went to him, he took an X ray and advised him immediate admission and an emergency appendicectomy. The patient came home weeping for preperation of admission. His neibour was clever enough. He said " Look man, you have pain on Left side and my relative operated for appendix had pain on right side. Let us go to our old GP. and confirm the need for surgery. " These two went to the GP. he after examining felt that it was just Dyspepsia and gave him Unienzyme tablet. and asked him to get the Xray plate from the surgeon. The patient went to surgeon to get it. The surgeon concerned had done only screening. Considering that what a villager will know he carelessly removed one Xray from his plates and handed over to him. GP after loking at the Xray said very seriously, " You really need a surgery. You have a twin pregnancy in your tummy. " The patient went back to surgeon and got back his fees for consultation and Xray. Thanks god for the good old days. Those days CPA was not there!!!!! Mukund(1974) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 23, 2004 Report Share Posted July 23, 2004 Dear Ashok and Gayatri, Read your mails Thanks for appreciating my writings.But I was surprise to know that Ashok has to move left and right while reading the same while Gayatri has to read it moving up and down. Now this time while writing I have kept the window size medium so Ashok has not to move sideways while as I am keeping it small enough so there is no need to make it up and down. Please let me know has this corrected the trouble you are facing? Mukund (1974) Formatting Mukund's mails are so interesting that cannot pass on them. But sometimes it is cumbersome because you have to move the page right or left to be able to read the page. Any savvy tech solutions Ravin, Kishore.. dear Mukund, Your mails are so illuminating. Neeti says how come I don't know all these stories. My only exposure to the medical field was in Sewagram- Wardha. As pediatric resident we used to see cases botched by the PPs. Sometimes the PP accompanied the patient as they were scared about the outcome ( obviously VIP patients ) But I still feel things were not as corrupt in places like Wardha atleast in those days. Looks like Neeti saw a lot in Delhi. We always used to hear about cut throat practices in big cities like Bombay. Obviously with high cost of living the bottomline matters. Your are candid and honest in your views and opinions........you handle this topic of private practice and ethics which most don't want to address !! Everybody will be benefited by your writeups....especially I think about the young impressionable students training at Sewagram ! Ashok 1984 p.s., the following is a pasted version....now if I reply directly then my mail also goes in the same format ! Dear All, I was happy to see that my jokes on Appendix have created a quite a hot academic discussion. (Kucchh Halchal Ho To Hi Mazaa Hai Na......! :-)) Here are few points I will like to add- 1) As Kishore rightly pointed out USG etc are meant for ruling out other diagnosis rather than diagnosing Appendicitis. In before USG days surgeons here used to look appendix in an plain X- ray abdomen and if asked they will say " It is to rule out ureteric stone we do X-ray. " ( Ofcourse after looking at the quality of the X ray performed by them was nothing can be diagnosed on it. Patient not prepared, Smallest Portable Xray Machine and 8th class passed compounder operating the same. The result used to be Photooo rather than X ray.:-) Is Ka Ek Kissa a Appendix at the end of this message) 2) Every appendicitis does not need surgery at all. With proper conservative management you can save so many surgeries. The appendix needs opening only if it is obstructed and leading to perforation. One of my Gynaecologist freind from Bhusawal has a Surgeon wife. He was stating that, " Being gynaecologist we need not do appendicectomies to feed ourselves. So when we do only indicated appendicectomies we have hardly 3 to 5 appendix surgeries in an year!!! " 3) The appendicectomy surgery has a very bad reputation. A son of my gynaecologist freind from Mumbai had pain in abdomen which was not quite fitting in Chronic appendicitis. So surgery was not performed. He was treated medically for an year or two for the intermittent pain in abdomen. without releif.All investigations also were in vain to point out the diagnosis. Then one of our surgeon freind from Nandurbar had visited his place. He after putting hand on his tummy said , " This boy needs laparatomy. I feel he is having Meckel's Diverticulum. " And Laparatomy proved his diagnosis. Moral of the story a)clinical judgment goes above all the investigations. Eyes can not see what mind doesn't know!! Now Kissa a Appendix --- Again this is a true story told by a senior GP over here.One surgeon had started his practice newly and he was enthusiastic for surgery. When one patient of pain in Lt illiac fossa went to him, he took an X ray and advised him immediate admission and an emergency appendicectomy. The patient came home weeping for preperation of admission. His neibour was clever enough. He said " Look man, you have pain on Left side and my relative operated for appendix had pain on right side. Let us go to our old GP. and confirm the need for surgery. " These two went to the GP. he after examining felt that it was just Dyspepsia and gave him Unienzyme tablet. and asked him to get the Xray plate from the surgeon. The patient went to surgeon to get it. The surgeon concerned had done only screening. Considering that what a villager will know he carelessly removed one Xray from his plates and handed over to him. GP after loking at the Xray said very seriously, " You really need a surgery. You have a twin pregnancy in your tummy. " The patient went back to surgeon and got back his fees for consultation and Xray. Thanks god for the good old days. Those days CPA was not there!!!!! Mukund(1974) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 25, 2004 Report Share Posted July 25, 2004 Dear Ravin, Thanks for your tips on formatting. My use of computer is restricted to bare minimal utilities e.g. operating out look express, Writing dramas, keeping birthday reminders etc I still do not use it at work place. So I miss so many details which I can look into safely by trial and error unless & until need arises. Anyway, now I have followed your suggestions and set the button at 60 characters. (By default it was at 76 characters.) So this message is to test the improvement (and ofcourse to thank you ! ) Mukund (1974) Dear Mukund, All you need to do is set your right margin to 70 characters. If you use Outlook Express to send your mail, go to the " Tools - Options " menu, enter the " Send " tab... in the window displayed you will find a " mail sending format " area containing a " plain text settings " button. Click on this button and in the box related to text wrapping, enter 70 (the default is 76, if that is so you need not change it). Secondly you need to send you messages to MGIMS mailing list using plain text only. So before you compose your message, in the main message window make sure your " format - plain text " is selected. If the above does not work - no one can help you :-D OR if you are using some program other than OE to send your mail, you will find similar options therein... Ravin '82 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 25, 2004 Report Share Posted July 25, 2004 Dear Ravin, Thanks for your tips on formatting. My use of computer is restricted to bare minimal utilities e.g. operating out look express, Writing dramas, keeping birthday reminders etc I still do not use it at work place. So I miss so many details which I can look into safely by trial and error unless & until need arises. Anyway, now I have followed your suggestions and set the button at 60 characters. (By default it was at 76 characters.) So this message is to test the improvement (and ofcourse to thank you ! ) Mukund (1974) Dear Mukund, All you need to do is set your right margin to 70 characters. If you use Outlook Express to send your mail, go to the " Tools - Options " menu, enter the " Send " tab... in the window displayed you will find a " mail sending format " area containing a " plain text settings " button. Click on this button and in the box related to text wrapping, enter 70 (the default is 76, if that is so you need not change it). Secondly you need to send you messages to MGIMS mailing list using plain text only. So before you compose your message, in the main message window make sure your " format - plain text " is selected. If the above does not work - no one can help you :-D OR if you are using some program other than OE to send your mail, you will find similar options therein... Ravin '82 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 26, 2004 Report Share Posted July 26, 2004 Dear Gayatri and Mukund, <<I think its quite fine now @ breadth of message...or side to side scrolling...>> I am still having the problem. The following is for Gayatri - When I first came to this country I struggled / resisted not calling a senior person Sir / Madam / Uncle or Aunty. I even displeased some of my uncle's family friends by calling them aunty. Incidentally the uncles didn't mind /care/notice but the aunties took offence. Typical ? But like so many other things you used to becoming a Roman in Rome. So when Kishore, Jyostna and Mukund asked us to shed the Sir/ Madam business I welcomed the idea. When you start addressing somebody by name, shedding the formalities it does foster a certain closeness and warmth. So an appeal from us " seniors " again.....to call us by name only. Gayatri Iyer wrote: Dear Mukund Sir, Ive been having hand- to mind incoordination of late:) Hence the " up down " when I meant " side to side " I think we have to scroll down for most mails if they are long- and I certainly want everyone to write long mails..so no problem with up-down. Also, issuing a general warning for the future- if anyone thinks I have written something odd then to please ignore it or clarify it:) ( till my hands start typing in coordination with my brain). Also, Mukund Sir, sorry for any confusion I might have caused- and thanks so much for trying to set it right!! I think its quite fine now @ breadth of message...or side to side scrolling... Gayatri 1997 Batch. ------------------------------ Website: www.mgims.org ------------------------------ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 26, 2004 Report Share Posted July 26, 2004 Dear Gayatri and Mukund, <<I think its quite fine now @ breadth of message...or side to side scrolling...>> I am still having the problem. The following is for Gayatri - When I first came to this country I struggled / resisted not calling a senior person Sir / Madam / Uncle or Aunty. I even displeased some of my uncle's family friends by calling them aunty. Incidentally the uncles didn't mind /care/notice but the aunties took offence. Typical ? But like so many other things you used to becoming a Roman in Rome. So when Kishore, Jyostna and Mukund asked us to shed the Sir/ Madam business I welcomed the idea. When you start addressing somebody by name, shedding the formalities it does foster a certain closeness and warmth. So an appeal from us " seniors " again.....to call us by name only. Gayatri Iyer wrote: Dear Mukund Sir, Ive been having hand- to mind incoordination of late:) Hence the " up down " when I meant " side to side " I think we have to scroll down for most mails if they are long- and I certainly want everyone to write long mails..so no problem with up-down. Also, issuing a general warning for the future- if anyone thinks I have written something odd then to please ignore it or clarify it:) ( till my hands start typing in coordination with my brain). Also, Mukund Sir, sorry for any confusion I might have caused- and thanks so much for trying to set it right!! I think its quite fine now @ breadth of message...or side to side scrolling... Gayatri 1997 Batch. ------------------------------ Website: www.mgims.org ------------------------------ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 26, 2004 Report Share Posted July 26, 2004 Dear Gayatri and Mukund, <<I think its quite fine now @ breadth of message...or side to side scrolling...>> I am still having the problem. The following is for Gayatri - When I first came to this country I struggled / resisted not calling a senior person Sir / Madam / Uncle or Aunty. I even displeased some of my uncle's family friends by calling them aunty. Incidentally the uncles didn't mind /care/notice but the aunties took offence. Typical ? But like so many other things you used to becoming a Roman in Rome. So when Kishore, Jyostna and Mukund asked us to shed the Sir/ Madam business I welcomed the idea. When you start addressing somebody by name, shedding the formalities it does foster a certain closeness and warmth. So an appeal from us " seniors " again.....to call us by name only. Gayatri Iyer wrote: Dear Mukund Sir, Ive been having hand- to mind incoordination of late:) Hence the " up down " when I meant " side to side " I think we have to scroll down for most mails if they are long- and I certainly want everyone to write long mails..so no problem with up-down. Also, issuing a general warning for the future- if anyone thinks I have written something odd then to please ignore it or clarify it:) ( till my hands start typing in coordination with my brain). Also, Mukund Sir, sorry for any confusion I might have caused- and thanks so much for trying to set it right!! I think its quite fine now @ breadth of message...or side to side scrolling... Gayatri 1997 Batch. ------------------------------ Website: www.mgims.org ------------------------------ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 26, 2004 Report Share Posted July 26, 2004 Dear Gayatri and Mukund, <<I think its quite fine now @ breadth of message...or side to side scrolling...>> I am still having the problem. The following is for Gayatri - When I first came to this country I struggled / resisted not calling a senior person Sir / Madam / Uncle or Aunty. I even displeased some of my uncle's family friends by calling them aunty. Incidentally the uncles didn't mind /care/notice but the aunties took offence. Typical ? But like so many other things you used to becoming a Roman in Rome. So when Kishore, Jyostna and Mukund asked us to shed the Sir/ Madam business I welcomed the idea. When you start addressing somebody by name, shedding the formalities it does foster a certain closeness and warmth. So an appeal from us " seniors " again.....to call us by name only. Gayatri Iyer wrote: Dear Mukund Sir, Ive been having hand- to mind incoordination of late:) Hence the " up down " when I meant " side to side " I think we have to scroll down for most mails if they are long- and I certainly want everyone to write long mails..so no problem with up-down. Also, issuing a general warning for the future- if anyone thinks I have written something odd then to please ignore it or clarify it:) ( till my hands start typing in coordination with my brain). Also, Mukund Sir, sorry for any confusion I might have caused- and thanks so much for trying to set it right!! I think its quite fine now @ breadth of message...or side to side scrolling... Gayatri 1997 Batch. ------------------------------ Website: www.mgims.org ------------------------------ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 26, 2004 Report Share Posted July 26, 2004 Oops Ravin ! Yeh kya ho gaya ?? Bad to worse ? Ashok 1984 " Dr. Mukund Karambelkar " wrote: Dear Ravin, Thanks for your tips on formatting. My use of computer is restricted to bare minimal utilities e.g. operating out look express, Writing dramas, keeping birthday reminders etc I still do not use it at work place. So I miss so many details which I can look into safely by trial and error unless & until need arises. Anyway, now I have followed your suggestions and set the button at 60 characters. (By default it was at 76 characters.) So this message is to test the improvement (and ofcourse to thank you ! ) & nbsp; Mukund (1974) Dear Mukund, All you need to do is set your right margin to 70 characters. If you use Outlook Express to send your mail, go to the " Tools - Options " menu, enter the " Send " tab... in the window displayed you will find a " mail sending format " area containing a " plain text settings " button. Click on this button and in the box related to text wrapping, enter 70 (the default is 76, if that is so you need not change it). Secondly you need to send you messages to MGIMS mailing list using plain text only. So before you compose your message, in the main message window make sure your " format - plain text " is selected. If the above does not work - no one can help you :-D OR if you are using some program other than OE to send your mail, you will find similar options therein... Ravin '82 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 26, 2004 Report Share Posted July 26, 2004 Oops Ravin ! Yeh kya ho gaya ?? Bad to worse ? Ashok 1984 " Dr. Mukund Karambelkar " wrote: Dear Ravin, Thanks for your tips on formatting. My use of computer is restricted to bare minimal utilities e.g. operating out look express, Writing dramas, keeping birthday reminders etc I still do not use it at work place. So I miss so many details which I can look into safely by trial and error unless & until need arises. Anyway, now I have followed your suggestions and set the button at 60 characters. (By default it was at 76 characters.) So this message is to test the improvement (and ofcourse to thank you ! ) & nbsp; Mukund (1974) Dear Mukund, All you need to do is set your right margin to 70 characters. If you use Outlook Express to send your mail, go to the " Tools - Options " menu, enter the " Send " tab... in the window displayed you will find a " mail sending format " area containing a " plain text settings " button. Click on this button and in the box related to text wrapping, enter 70 (the default is 76, if that is so you need not change it). Secondly you need to send you messages to MGIMS mailing list using plain text only. So before you compose your message, in the main message window make sure your " format - plain text " is selected. If the above does not work - no one can help you :-D OR if you are using some program other than OE to send your mail, you will find similar options therein... Ravin '82 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 26, 2004 Report Share Posted July 26, 2004 true, it is interesting... My kids take the via media, if it is a desi they add the aunty/uncle. If it is a gora they call them by name. They were in a dilemma when nadu brought his fiance a local girl home. they wanted to know whether to call her by name only or tag the aunty after the name. I asked them to ask her and she was cool about anything. so that is that. like I call the younger consultants by first name and the older ones as Dr/Mr so & so. cheers Malini (82) Re: Formatting Dear Gayatri and Mukund, <<I think its quite fine now @ breadth of message...or side to side scrolling...>> I am still having the problem. The following is for Gayatri - When I first came to this country I struggled / resisted not calling a senior person Sir / Madam / Uncle or Aunty. I even displeased some of my uncle's family friends by calling them aunty. Incidentally the uncles didn't mind /care/notice but the aunties took offence. Typical ? But like so many other things you used to becoming a Roman in Rome. So when Kishore, Jyostna and Mukund asked us to shed the Sir/ Madam business I welcomed the idea. When you start addressing somebody by name, shedding the formalities it does foster a certain closeness and warmth. So an appeal from us " seniors " again.....to call us by name only. Gayatri Iyer wrote: Dear Mukund Sir, Ive been having hand- to mind incoordination of late:) Hence the " up down " when I meant " side to side " I think we have to scroll down for most mails if they are long- and I certainly want everyone to write long mails..so no problem with up-down. Also, issuing a general warning for the future- if anyone thinks I have written something odd then to please ignore it or clarify it:) ( till my hands start typing in coordination with my brain). Also, Mukund Sir, sorry for any confusion I might have caused- and thanks so much for trying to set it right!! I think its quite fine now @ breadth of message...or side to side scrolling... Gayatri 1997 Batch. ------------------------------ Website: www.mgims.org ------------------------------ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 26, 2004 Report Share Posted July 26, 2004 true, it is interesting... My kids take the via media, if it is a desi they add the aunty/uncle. If it is a gora they call them by name. They were in a dilemma when nadu brought his fiance a local girl home. they wanted to know whether to call her by name only or tag the aunty after the name. I asked them to ask her and she was cool about anything. so that is that. like I call the younger consultants by first name and the older ones as Dr/Mr so & so. cheers Malini (82) Re: Formatting Dear Gayatri and Mukund, <<I think its quite fine now @ breadth of message...or side to side scrolling...>> I am still having the problem. The following is for Gayatri - When I first came to this country I struggled / resisted not calling a senior person Sir / Madam / Uncle or Aunty. I even displeased some of my uncle's family friends by calling them aunty. Incidentally the uncles didn't mind /care/notice but the aunties took offence. Typical ? But like so many other things you used to becoming a Roman in Rome. So when Kishore, Jyostna and Mukund asked us to shed the Sir/ Madam business I welcomed the idea. When you start addressing somebody by name, shedding the formalities it does foster a certain closeness and warmth. So an appeal from us " seniors " again.....to call us by name only. Gayatri Iyer wrote: Dear Mukund Sir, Ive been having hand- to mind incoordination of late:) Hence the " up down " when I meant " side to side " I think we have to scroll down for most mails if they are long- and I certainly want everyone to write long mails..so no problem with up-down. Also, issuing a general warning for the future- if anyone thinks I have written something odd then to please ignore it or clarify it:) ( till my hands start typing in coordination with my brain). Also, Mukund Sir, sorry for any confusion I might have caused- and thanks so much for trying to set it right!! I think its quite fine now @ breadth of message...or side to side scrolling... Gayatri 1997 Batch. ------------------------------ Website: www.mgims.org ------------------------------ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 27, 2004 Report Share Posted July 27, 2004 What are you talking about Ashok? Everything looks fine here... :-) Ravin '82 Re: Formatting > Oops Ravin ! > > Yeh kya ho gaya ?? > > Bad to worse ? > > Ashok 1984 > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 27, 2004 Report Share Posted July 27, 2004 What are you talking about Ashok? Everything looks fine here... :-) Ravin '82 Re: Formatting > Oops Ravin ! > > Yeh kya ho gaya ?? > > Bad to worse ? > > Ashok 1984 > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 27, 2004 Report Share Posted July 27, 2004 Dear Ravin, I have one more problem regarding mails from the e group. In between I was put on the bouncers list. I corrected the problem through the site. But I am not receiving all the mails.For example I received directly Gayatri's respose to Anshu's mail on swiss toilets. The original message, and Anshu's response (and the Toilets too :-) ) didnot come to my mail box. Ofcourse I visited the group and had look at them ....! But what's the problem ? Who is selective ? emanager or my server or the computer ? ( Ofcourse not the moderator! He is enjoying in Rajasthan Sunny and Sandy days in rainy season !!!) How to rectify it?Can I rectify it through -from message rules..? Please come to rescue otherwise I will miss the interesting mails :-) Mukund (1974) Dear Mukund, All you need to do is set your right margin to 70 characters. If you use Outlook Express to send your mail, go to the " Tools - Options " menu, enter the " Send " tab... in the window displayed you will find a " mail sending format " area containing a " plain text settings " button. Click on this button and in the box related to text wrapping, enter 70 (the default is 76, if that is so you need not change it). Secondly you need to send you messages to MGIMS mailing list using plain text only. So before you compose your message, in the main message window make sure your " format - plain text " is selected. If the above does not work - no one can help you :-D OR if you are using some program other than OE to send your mail, you will find similar options therein... Ravin '82 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 27, 2004 Report Share Posted July 27, 2004 Dear Ravin, I have one more problem regarding mails from the e group. In between I was put on the bouncers list. I corrected the problem through the site. But I am not receiving all the mails.For example I received directly Gayatri's respose to Anshu's mail on swiss toilets. The original message, and Anshu's response (and the Toilets too :-) ) didnot come to my mail box. Ofcourse I visited the group and had look at them ....! But what's the problem ? Who is selective ? emanager or my server or the computer ? ( Ofcourse not the moderator! He is enjoying in Rajasthan Sunny and Sandy days in rainy season !!!) How to rectify it?Can I rectify it through -from message rules..? Please come to rescue otherwise I will miss the interesting mails :-) Mukund (1974) Dear Mukund, All you need to do is set your right margin to 70 characters. If you use Outlook Express to send your mail, go to the " Tools - Options " menu, enter the " Send " tab... in the window displayed you will find a " mail sending format " area containing a " plain text settings " button. Click on this button and in the box related to text wrapping, enter 70 (the default is 76, if that is so you need not change it). Secondly you need to send you messages to MGIMS mailing list using plain text only. So before you compose your message, in the main message window make sure your " format - plain text " is selected. If the above does not work - no one can help you :-D OR if you are using some program other than OE to send your mail, you will find similar options therein... Ravin '82 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 27, 2004 Report Share Posted July 27, 2004 Dear Ashok, Thanks for the advice.. its just very hard to get used to it... (even right now it feels blasphemous- or close to it..) But maybe you are right- I already feel like you are more of a friend and less of a senior. Hope Ill remember! Thanks!! Gayatri. 1997 Batch Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 27, 2004 Report Share Posted July 27, 2004 Dear Ashok, Thanks for the advice.. its just very hard to get used to it... (even right now it feels blasphemous- or close to it..) But maybe you are right- I already feel like you are more of a friend and less of a senior. Hope Ill remember! Thanks!! Gayatri. 1997 Batch Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 27, 2004 Report Share Posted July 27, 2004 You are welcome, Gayatri : )) Ashok 1984 p.s. isn't it amazing...........just taking out the Sir / madam has instantaneous effect. p.p.s. Now that you have Oked it we will keep reminding you : )) Gayatri Iyer wrote: Dear Ashok, Thanks for the advice.. its just very hard to get used to it... (even right now it feels blasphemous- or close to it..) But maybe you are right- I already feel like you are more of a friend and less of a senior. Hope Ill remember! Thanks!! Gayatri. 1997 Batch ------------------------------ Website: www.mgims.org ------------------------------ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 27, 2004 Report Share Posted July 27, 2004 You are welcome, Gayatri : )) Ashok 1984 p.s. isn't it amazing...........just taking out the Sir / madam has instantaneous effect. p.p.s. Now that you have Oked it we will keep reminding you : )) Gayatri Iyer wrote: Dear Ashok, Thanks for the advice.. its just very hard to get used to it... (even right now it feels blasphemous- or close to it..) But maybe you are right- I already feel like you are more of a friend and less of a senior. Hope Ill remember! Thanks!! Gayatri. 1997 Batch ------------------------------ Website: www.mgims.org ------------------------------ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 28, 2004 Report Share Posted July 28, 2004 Dear Mukund, I am not going to complain about the width of your mails....because till this last one I was being punished kind of....your mails atleast in my screen got three times more wider !! This last one is OK...wide but very managable ; )) Neeti.... are you having the same problem ? Gayatri had and I wonder if its fixed for her ? Mukund..........the Sanjana mail was very heart warming............you captured the essence of this group. Hopefully our group 'falos' and 'fulos' ... and goes on forever with more and more active members : )) Ashok 1984 p.s one thing is working.....when I reply to your mail, your mail is automatically fitting in the screen ! So even I am not replying I can read your mails after going in reply mode !! " Dr. Mukund Karambelkar " wrote: Dear Ravin, I have one more problem regarding mails from the e group. In between I was put on the bouncers list. I corrected the problem through the site. But I am not receiving all the mails.For example I received directly Gayatri's respose to Anshu's mail on swiss toilets. The original message, and Anshu's response (and the Toilets too :-) ) didnot come to my mail box. Ofcourse I visited the group and had look at them ....! But what's the problem ? Who is selective ? emanager or my server or the computer ? ( Ofcourse not the moderator! He is enjoying in Rajasthan Sunny and Sandy days in rainy season !!!) How to rectify it?Can I rectify it through -from message rules..? Please come to rescue otherwise I will miss the interesting mails :-) Mukund (1974) Dear Mukund, All you need to do is set your right margin to 70 characters. If you use Outlook Express to send your mail, go to the " Tools - Options " menu, enter the " Send " tab... in the window displayed you will find a " mail sending format " area containing a " plain text settings " button. Click on this button and in the box related to text wrapping, enter 70 (the default is 76, if that is so you need not change it). Secondly you need to send you messages to MGIMS mailing list using plain text only. So before you compose your message, in the main message window make sure your " format - plain text " is selected. If the above does not work - no one can help you :-D OR if you are using some program other than OE to send your mail, you will find similar options therein... Ravin '82 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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